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The Fastest Ship In Elite: Dangerous
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2016
- The Imperial Eagle is fast with the default fit, but add enhanced thrusters, strip out everything else and then engineer it with the goal of the maximum speed and it'll go almost 900m/s - faster if you have the patience to work for that perfect engineer result.
*PROJECT NAME:* _Lightning_
*HULL USED:* _Imperial Eagle_
*ATTAINED SPEEDS:* _Circa. 900 m/s_
*PROJECT SHELVED*
*VEREDICT:* _Needs more Boosters_
yeah and a green creature from kerbin xD
This is like a racecar build.
You know. Strip out everything that isn't 100% essential, and then put the biggest engine you can get away with into the thing...
I heard "friendship drive" all video long. It was awesome.
Yes, ships run purely on friendship
François Ozenne lol
Well played. Comparable to the infinite probability drive. That quantum leap, bruh.
True progress.
sparcerX That multicrew HYPE!
Not as awesome as The Great Space Coaster.
Omg, im not alone
It would probably go faster if it were red.
That is why my graphics card is red.
three times faster at least
"What's your scientific reason for thinking that? Im 11" -Futurama
AND racing stripes
@@michielkudova3887 add a cool sticker for +5 thrust too
I wish more games would add in a free mode so you can just play around with everything and see what you want before you start grinding through certain paths.
James Coyle agreed. I hate it when games are super grindey and then have no sandbox mode to screw around in.
if such a feature existed, pirating the game would be very easy and it would ruin the whole "can't wait to see how good my new ship will be!" thing
Planetside 2 has an enclosed bubble where you can try out all of the vehicles and weapons before you spend in game currency on your stuff and find out you don't like that build. Loadout does the same thing. They could easily let you "simulate" a ship build in one of the Elite Dog Fighting Arenas against waves of AI ships of increasing difficulty.
+Dilyn Miller Cough cough War Thunder - a few years back they had that feature... then they removed it.
I wish more games would remove grinding.
fastest ship? anaconda over a 3.4G planet. learned that nearly the hard way... got away with 7% hull :-S
I understand that this comment is 5 years old but how fast did you go and are you aware of speedbowling?
@@vehicleboi5598 i have no idea how fast i was xD and i also dont know what speedbowling is. I havent played E:D since they introduced the weekly fee carriers
@@RadimentriX Exigeous has a video on speedbowling and I’m impressed you bothered to reply
@@vehicleboi5598 i'm stil active pn yt so i dont see a reason not to answer :D dont know of i check out the vid though as im not playing E:D anymore, as well as the people i played it with
when devs are trying to make the game realistic but make it impossible to accelerate beyond a certain speed while in vacuum
Right, and ship recall on a 9g planet uses down thruster when landing...
Let’s just say all ships have an inbuilt speed restriction for safety reasons. Speed is therefore regulated and kept perfectly constant as the thrusters can produce both forwards and backwards momentum
Can it do the Kessel just under 12 parsecs? I think not..
Well, of course not.
A: The Kessel Run doesn't exist in this universe.
B: The Parsec isn't a measure of speed, it is a measure of distance.
Lol *rolls eyes*
XanthinZarda Lol
Get your science fiction facts right before you try to talk smart. Burned.
TehFocus Lol, burned? Dude, that's an actual movie quote. Get off the ol high horse xD
That ship is great for running away from the murder machines that other people build.
the scientific accuracy of this game is truely amazing I didn't even know you could orbit. I wish in the future that actually becomes useful if they let us create our own space stations and we could tow or actually fly into orbit around a planet.
They commented on it already - you would end up with hundreds of user space stations orbiting key planets - it would look, well... silly.
God forbid the game have things to do.
they could just make getting a permit to place a personal station around a well known highly populated planet impossible or restricted because of the "bureaucracy" of it... essentially lock out planets above a certain population, or core systems... and maybe limit the number around other populated systems. If i could build my own base it would be on or around some desolate planet out away from the bubble.
why would you want a personal space station?
Ekin Elçi to have my own corner of space and to store all my ships.
I loved this game when it came out and was super excited but it required so much grinding that it became more of a chore to get something fun. Really wish these games had missions of moderate but not extreme difficulty that would granted you a complete ship and some upgrades/customizations. Make these games more about the play than the grind. But give it to you Scott Manley to make it feel exciting again.
Imperial Eagle is one of my most used ships for quite some time now. I've been playing this game for a while, and I've burned out on most basic activities there are. So with some sum in the bank, and a bit of boredom I've discovered my new drug - racing :) Canyon racing. And this thing is just...mental. Fully modded for lightweight. No shields or any unnecessary internals. It's just so much fun.
Some guy told me that the Imperial Courier has a slightly higher maxspeed when engineered. I have yet to try it out so I don't know but it would seem a bit unlikely.
@@F3EDER it was a lie. However, Viper MK3 can reach the same boost speed and has higher base speed.
The Imperial Courier is actually lighter than the Eagle, in my experimentation with enhanced thrusters and engineering I got my Courier significantly faster than my iEagle. Try those modded thrusters out on a lightweight Courier, you might get even faster.
+Dustin Mason I did, didn't go faster.
Did you strip them both right back or did you have heavier modules in the Courier? Because it really should be lighter and therefore faster. The hull mass is 15t less, but it has heaver internals/weapons so if you want speed from it you have to strip down everything.
It might just be that my g5 dirty drives have pretty poor optimised mass compared to yours, so my iEagle doesn't perform as well as yours does. But theoretically the Courier is lighter, so shouldn't it go faster with the same drives? There's also the point of the larger power distributor on the Courier, so it can maintain its boost speed whereas the iEagle can't as easily.
I was just browsing through some of your old Elite: Dangerous videos when I realised you updated the playlist in the last hour. Hah, what a coincidence.
0/10 expected more Millennium falcon
Collin Thompson Right?
That thing's not actually fast, though. It's faster than the basic freighter model it initially was modified from, but it's still a big slow unwiedly hunk of metal.
Nice vid Mr. Manley, I bought an Imperial eagle a while back but haven't put it to use yet, think I'll get her the to workshop soon for some speed adjustments because that looked awesome. Loved the orbital experiment at the end! Keep up the good work! /CMDR StoneD0G
post more Galileo conquest please
+Micheal Hartman they're not getting the number of views I'd hoped.
Scott Manley ):
But... But... they are awesome! :'(
Christoph S they're so good!!!!!
+Scott Manley They are really good, and they will get more views with further continuations, if it will help, I will watch it 100,000 times just to keep them going :)
If you had a better power distributor you could boost more often.
no way
+jekanyika yep, but I went for min mass
or just get a light weight distributor and give it engine focused mod
Watching this here in 2021 and as a legit cutter owner I winced when you mentioned how much grinding it takes 😂
"I guess everybody who didn't pre-order, they have to pay for it through the... ehh... nose!"
Beta is like $5 or $10, not very expensive.
oh, ok
10 bucks for a freaking beta is damn expensive. It should be free for the people who bought the dlc
Simon Young You can try the expensive ships, figure out which ones you're gonna get in the main game instead of grinding hours and getting disappointed. but 10$ for that is way too much, and yes, paying for doing the devs jobs is disgusting
Let's not forget the disaster that is their internal QA department so, in a way, it's a good thing we get to test the game, even for money. Otherwise it would be even buggier than it already is.
Holy shit, that's fast.
Been away from the game for many months, just got back to it with the season pass. Looks like there's a ton I need to catch up on. I want me some of those enhanced thrusters, along with the rest of this weapon modding, seems nice.
Lost it at the mating dance of the Gutamaya xD
Plasma Acc buff!? Oh yes... I love those, I have them on most of my ships already.
FYI when in commodities window, if you have a commodity highlighted (using controller) select description window and THEN move down, get's you to the exit button quicker.
1F Lasers.. basically nothing more then a targeting light at this point
Would be fun to have laser guided weapons!
I am still waiting for your race to have ships like this.
Cereal Killer yes you do
I love the orbital math done. It was quite amusing. I can't believe I have never thought to try this. It looks like a lot of fun just orbiting a moon somewhere. It reminds me of the LADEE mission that orbited the moon at 75 km. There are several really small bodies in ED that could easily be orbited. I remember landing on one where I could hardly keep the scarab on the surface.
I didn't even know you could orbit in Elite Dangerous! That's so cool!
15:27 Premium Beta FTW, cause that's how i got the black friday paint job.
Already saw it, then got back from the Elite: Dangerous newsletter to tell you that it has been featured there (Congrats!).
Im struggling to find a videos comparing the imperial eagle to the viper mk3 ?
any tips here on what to do when you are stuck in the middle of nowhere with no fuel?
+Filippos Constantinou call the fuel rats www.fuelrats.com
Scott Manley Is it available for all platforms?If it is this is life saving....
Go and ask them.
Scott Manley Thanks for the advice!
+Filippos Constantinou Fuel Rats operate on both PC and Xbox. Always ready to help (for free!). You're always welcome to come ask for help !
TIP: In the COmmodities Market, to quickly get to Back button using a hat, move right toward the buy/sell panel and move down just two clicks to the Back button (that is, if you haven't mapped your Back button to your hotas)
And yet that NPC cobra III on your tail will still go 300 m/s faster than you...
I have given up this game for some time now, but, i am planning to dive back in to it, one of those days, and buy the horizon's season, untill then, i am stuck with just the basic elite dangerous, so, i don't know if the developers, have "fixed" the physics, regarding inertia, when flying with flight assist off, and accelerate every time u hit the boosters, with out slowing down, of what i have seen on this vid, they haven't, does any one knows, if the devs have any plans on making ships, ceep on going faster, and faster, when using boosters, with out diccelerating, before turning flight assist back on?
P.S. i am aware, the same sould happen with just thrusters, with flight assist off, but i guess, that would b asking for too, much, also, i thing rotational rate, sould increase too, allthough i think turning angular and rotational momentum, full real physics, would make the game, almost uplayable, with out flight assist.
+Dimitris Chaniotis no, this was the way Elite played 20 years ago and everyone agreed that while it was more realistic it was also unfun.
Scott Manley I guess, everyone must b right then, i honestly think the people who decided it was unfun, knew what they were doing, i can understand, how, what i suggest, would b a not good idea, for a few reasons, but, i still think, there is room for improovement, in the game, i would very much wellcome, a few additions, in the contact panel, the speed and distance, of any viewed object, would b one of them, maybe speed could b viewed, on the hud, next to the target's name, as well wider range of the spce craft's sensors, is desired too, maybe, even different coulours, of contacts, if they r in a fight, in the same panel, green if they haven't deployed hard points, yellow if they have, and red, if they r firing them, for example.
But, other then that, e.d. is quite a good game, and i enloy playing it.
Thnx for the responce.
I think u r making very good vids.
That will never happen. Every physics limiting system is a very good decision. My guess is you have never played a multiplayer game using the physics you are requesting. In Elite players can't cheat and change their speeds to make gameplay for fun like an AI can.
Brendan Forishu r right, i jumped from EVE on line, str8 to elite, and, i wasn't using, flight control off, as much, as i do now, and it is much harder, than i thought it was, basically, i wanted to use flight assise off mode, mainly to ecrease my speed, and rotation, in short bursts, and then turn it back on, which, now, that i tried it, it needs a lot of practice.
Bad idea, my bad, but, i still think the contacts panel, needs some more work to b done with, and maybe, maintaining top boost speed, when flying with flight assist off, is not a bad idea, as for the AI ability to change speeds, and fight in general, if, it's responce time, wasn't limited to match human responeces, i don't think there would b many people able to bit it.
Dimitris Chaniotis Maintaining boost speed in FA Off would be a bad idea. It would make FA Off pilots faster. That gives them an advantage that has nothing to do with skill. 100% unbalanced. I'm super glad you aren't a dev.
16:08 well... looks like the devs listened to you xD
Elite Dangerous Horizons is awesome! :D
Scott, I love that you play Elite as well as KSP. Huge fan of your videos! :)
Always fun watching your videos! =)
Never thought about that... boost and turn off engines.... might be a good way to escape if you have a fast ship and boost... you would go cold and be harder to find while keeping your max speed.. might need to try that
The viper has the same boost speed, but a higher non-boost speed
I used to get mission payouts of 1 mil+ for going about 100 ltyrs for the relationship I have with the Harma system, now I get less than 100,000 per 100+ ltyrs so I stopped playing.. Sadly this game cannot hold my attention any longer... I used to love it, but it seems like only no-lifes can play this game and do passenger missions(these missions were why I bought the $40 expansion and it's bullcrap aswell) and with my current knowledge/rank/money in the game I cant do anything else because it's not worth the time either... All I want is my first Anaconda and not get it blown the hell up then have to replace it for 14mil... Help pliz?
I stopped playing long ago, that game felt like the worst F2P kinda grind, except it's a full price AAA game, not only that but it's sold in pieces.
For all the awe I was when playing it first because no other game had such a fantastic setting and immersion... the game mechanics are complete BS. Frontier fucked up entirely by not choosing between solo and multiplayer with that game.
***** I just wish I wouldn't get banned if I used Cheat Engine in "singleplayer"(stupid DRM BS!!!) to give myself credits, but since Frontier are such whiny bitches when it comes to creds, I'm not willing to risk my Steam account over that. maybe if I bought it on a separate account from the beginning I'd be willing to risk it...
I flew out to Colonia once, before they had passenger missions. You can make some serious money taking passengers there nowadays. Once there, I realised how boring it was so I decided to head back. Discovered they were offering missions to haul freight back to the bubble. Made 190m. The downside was I had 20hrs to do it in. That was one long, tedious day. But then, in its present state, it's a tedious game. Not sure if they still make those big freight offers since they fiddled with the payouts tho. I assume running passengers would be the easier way to do it.
The thing about locking Solo Play behind always online and the multiplayer rules is because Solo Play is basically just a private server that only you can access. I can sort of understand some of the reasons they did it that way, as it means that the actions of all players influence the galaxy. It would be nice to be able to play without an internet connection or with mods though, and I do really wish they would've had an offline, customizable singleplayer that was perhaps still influence by the playerbase, while the singleplayer's influence wouldn't affect the actual galaxy.
community goals take a while, but they're a pretty considerable way to make money. If it makes it to a high tier, and you make it to a high bracket, you can probably make about 20mil a week just by the rewards. It still takes time, but I think it's more fun than doing the same thing over and over - a change of pace is nice. And just ftr, I bought and outfitted a federal corvette this way - never did long range trading. you can definitely get your anaconda this way.
I'd love to see a video of Scott visiting all the planets of the solar system and the major moon in this game
I didn't know about enhanced performance thrusters and started building an imp eagle a couple of days ago :D
Scott, Take on Mars just had a big update which brings life support, more polish and a more fleshed out campaign mode. Think it would be worth a video?
You reference your real ship in your main game, do you have videos about this anywhere? I've seen some of your mini series in Elite (exploring, showing some new features), but do you have a current/continuous Elite let's play series?
Looking at orbits, we need to be able to destabilise station orbits so they crash into the surface.
It's actually the Viper mk3 from what I heard. It has the same boost, but a higher base speed
Scott can you alter the HUD colour? It all seems so very orange.. I think a Green or Blue would be much easier on the eyes. I can't wait for the final version/ launch version to be finished as I will build myself a custom rig so play this game, as it's got more going for it than "No Man's Sky" that's for sure.
You might be waiting a long time, I mean it's just being updated regularly so don't expect a 'final' version.
Scott Manley Thanks for the reply Scott. Do you need a pretty beefy gaming rig to play this game at all? It looks a very lovely detailed game considering it's still in the "Beta" stages, but the orange huds that most of the ships I seen on UA-cam have seems an oversight somewhat.
It's not in Beta, it was released 2 years ago. The beta is just for the latest update before it goes live for everyone.
Also, Elite is one of the best optimized games I've played, it'll run quite well with even moderate GPU specs.
I misunderstood what you meant in the commentary of this video Scott. I do apologise.
It does change IFF, but not to any degree where it affects your ability to know who is who, only an idiot would find that difficult.
I just finished HL2 for the first time
now do the episodes.
1004bjorn Will do, It was fucking amazing. playing lost coast now.
im playing half life 1 for the first time
Lucky you. I got stuck in a prison and never played again.
+Theviniso whut? xD
Was surprised to see the distributor decision, just glad you managed to even see the error of your uninformed decision. This changed my perception of your expertise quite a bit, funnily enough.
The Imperial Courier can actually get to a higher average speed than the Eagle, because it's much lighter than the engine specs, and it decelerates from boost speed much more slowly as well. Also with a charge-enhanced power distributor, you can ALMOST permaboost, and you probably can actually permaboost with overrolls.
12:26 Loved that funny joke you effortlessly slipped into the fight. I had to stop the video. I was laughing so hard I couldn't hear anything else. xP
Sorry, forgot another bit: 12:32 I don't know how you do that, but it's my favorite parts of your series. Please don't change to much. =p
More Galileo conquest please! If you want more views, make it clear that it's a KSP series!
Hmm what about (for a longer set up possibly) orbiting something with an eccentric orbit with your apoapsis at your ships max speed. It would be interesting to see how fast elite would let you go at periapsis.
I really didn't knew you can orbit planetary bodies like in KSP, thanks for showing this. It's pretty amazing.
"Show me what you got baby"
Sounds like porn
JZK true
This is why I wish Elite had a creative mode so I could experiment with different builds before I grind for them
Scott, what are you doing bringing that imperial ship to the heart of the Federation? Are you TRYING to start a war?
So, what you're saying is, Real men hull tank?
"The mating ritual of the Gutamaya spacecraft"
Scott.
Baby.
If it was that easy to make new Gutamayas, I wouldn't grind imperial allegiance all day.
Seems like a great way to play as a courier for paying players.
Why does a spaceship have a max speed?
Gameplay over realism, catching up a ship that can accelerate continuously would be almost impossible and generally high speeds would actually slow down battles.
No speed limits would mean you be traveling at speed which would make any sort of dog fighting impossible. By the time you get close enough to fire in the next instant you will be a very far away again. Not to mention the rubber banding that would result from ships moving such large distances per packet received. Then there's the issue of slowing down.... So many other problems I haven't touched on. Speed limits are the way to go. Be thankful that had the foresight to disable thruster effects when you hit the limit.
It's not like the ships are slow... remember the speedometer measures in meters per second. Converted to mph my Anaconda has a top speed of 442mph
Because game balance? It's multiplayer, it has PvP...
SCOT PLAYS ELITE?!?!?!?
Not anymore. CMDR Minikill has a Viper Mk III that does 930mps.
It's only going about Mach 2.64. Nasa's X-43 can go 3292.8 m/s, or Mach 9.6.
Dara MagUiginn Isnt it just prototype, not real jet?
Krzysztof Dolecki
Well, it exists, and it's actually flown at those speeds. It's unmanned, but it's still capable of reaching those speeds.
Also pretty much most modern fighter jets are faster than Mach 2.64, there were fighters reaching Mach 3 during the cold war.
and modern spacecraft have to get even much faster
but this is a game. It takes balance into account if every player could dogfight at mach 10 it wouldn't be fun.
i love games like this espicially when they have depth and reward players who DO want to put in ridiculous amounts of time.
Say did you ever manage to get that Mercury orbit going? Would be a fun watch... *hint* *hint*
Can you actually perform drifting in Elite:Dangerous? Like, accelerate, turn back and shoot what's behind you?
with flight assist off you can
+Piotr Marciniak yes, even more so with Flight assist off.
Yea, you can. By default flight assist won't let you (this makes it so your ship always faces the direction of travel). But if you disable flight assist, you can freely rotate the ship in any direction independent of your velocity. So you can fly one way, turn on a dime, and then shoot backwards. It's harder to do though.
You can fly backwards and drift sideways with flight assist on too. You just need to have the right control setup.
Ben Sommen FA on will actively limit your drifting speed more than the invisible drag mechanic, however.
I'd love to see if you could pull off the mercury orbit.
Did something very similar early on when I used to play. Just in the normal lil eagle though, set it up for speed and smuggling.
After watching this I tried letting gravity accelerate my conda with tiny thrusters on it and don’t really understand what happened.
Attempt 1: I was in 0.12 g. If I boosted towards the planet, turned off my thrusters, recharge, turn on thrusters, boost, repeat I could gain about 20-30 m/s each time. If I just left thrusters off it would stay at a steady speed.
Attempt 2: I was in 1.05g and after a while I didn’t have to turn off my thrusters to keep accelerating. In fact as I got within a few hundred km of the surface I did everything I could to try to slow down. I was boosting away from the planet, falling backwards, but it ACCELERATED me towards the planet. I tried facing the planet and using reverse thrusters, again, it just made me fall faster. I boosted away from the surface over and over, I tried just using normal thrusters. No matter what I did to try to slow down it just made me go faster. In fact if I did nothing my speed didn’t increase much, but anything I tried to do to slow down made it increase quickly. To the point I had to log out or smash into the surface at 1200m/s.
So haven't played in about half a year and my vulture is almost useless. I feel stuck and unable to progress. I used to take on literally any ship in it. Now, forget about it. They've decreased an already low power ship so my loadout doesn't work on it, not to mention the shields are weaker and even the hull, which was not good in the first place, is weaker. Feels bad man.
I want orbits!!!! Cool to know we can kinda do it, though! Blew my mind when I saw that
Are you planning on making an Eve: Online video about the alpha clone initiative?
you should consider switching power to system and engines. since for some reason, system helps the engine charge faster. at least when i tried some stuff last time i played the game(which has been a while, due to work)
interesting that you can actually do a proper orbit engines off... but cant get the ship moving fast enough to orbit the Moon like Apollo did.
"Is this the ship that made the Kepler run in 14 parsecs!?"
kessel run*
There ain't enough power scotty
Fly save sounds a bit strange after two crashes because of scenery camera...
Hey Steve, bind "UI back" to a joystick button and you never have to scroll again or go to your mouse
Wonder if there's anyone in the Racing Club communities that's thought about a design like this, or is this kind of build impractical for the kinds of races people do online?
Hey Scott, I've always wondered are Saturns rings made up of objects that size in Elite? Do we know if they're that close together or are the objects smaller or more compact?
scott manley the beast
You can get an Imperial Courier even faster than an iEagle, cause it's base mass is 15tons lower. Try that later!
You should do a joint video series with Anton Petrov
Awesome man!
Have you tried with a Cobra, I mean, with the boost, according to Frontier, The Cobra is the fastest. I guess I'll try it with the Cobra once I've got the time to get it all set up.
Anyway, nice video.
Cobra is one of the slowest, heaviest small size ships...
10:46 no shield could have saved that eagle
Cmdr. Rusty Dog did a speed build on an Eagle, he got up to a boost speed of 822mps but settled for 817mps.
I went through your video to find your final speed (If I saw correctly) of 861mps.
I must of seen and/or heard wrong because I've not found a thing to confirm the speed you reached?
Ah... there it is during your test flight after three or four boosts (temp at 49c) in open space, 881mps.
not in state of war. last i checked a week ago. doing skimmers else where but not as much as i could there
I'm on the fence about buying this game and was thinking about buying it with it newest update. could you recommend this game to me? because I don't want to spend more money for a game I'll only enjoy for a few hours.(i have done this too many times)
Gotta go fast!
Couldn't you start out quite a ways above a planet like mercury, go full speed and then turn off flight assist and thusly fly a highly elliptical orbit?
Almost 900 m/s ? :)
If i move my EPT from my courier to to a stripped down ieagle it'll do 903 m/s when boosting !
+41.9% optimal multiplier and only -5.30% optimal mass.
I really need to play this game more. I feel like I miss so much!
The one massive problem with this game is the decceleration in space. That just doesn't happen. It would be cool if the game creators changed max speed to max acceleration. That would be cool, you'd have to match speeds with people for battle.
The spaceships thrusters turn off after you hit a certain velocity. And after you boost the backward thruster kick on a bit to slow you down. No speed limits would mean you be traveling at speed which would make any sort of dog fighting impossible. By the time you get close enough to fire in the next instant you will be a very far away again. Not to mention the rubber banding that would result from ships moving such large distances per packet received. Then there's the issue of slowing down.... So many other problems I haven't touched on. There would be no speed matching ever. The gap between speeds would be far too large. Speed limits are the way to go. Be thankful that had the foresight to disable thruster effects when you hit the limit.
Commodities in the engineer's blueprints are temporally removed. they will come back once players have Commodity storage.
So that moon is bigger then earth or your orbit is higher then what's standard for NASA because it takes 90 minutes to orbit Earth. ;-) There's a Imperial Courier that Rusty Dog built that boosts to I believe 890+ (I saw the build)?
could you please do a video explaining how you got the mass down to 60.5 tons and the mods you used?
post GALILEO CONQUEST! At least one per week.
The fastest ship in Elite Dangerous is the one that sailed away from customer service.
That thing looks like fun.