Interesting video, though I was hoping you'd get into the tractor more! Diesel/electric sounds like the technology that powers train locomotives! If so, it could be quite a break through! Hope you do more on the tractor after you've run it for a bit!!
This opens up a lot of possibilities. Running electric carts and planters vs hydraulic would be super efficient. Possibility of having manure tanks with drive axles and grain carts with driven tracks is possible. Not sure why there isn’t a convertible manure tank/grain cart out there. As ballast is such a common thing it would be possible to have significant batteries as ballast to smooth out power delivery and reduce diesel consumption. You could even have the tractor on Grid Tie standby during offseason peak power demand as networked virtual power plants to make revenue when its not being used. Interesting times. Partially electrifying combines must be in development, get rid of the belts, chains and hydrostatic drives.
OMG ,I think grain prices need to increase by 250% or we will only be working for the machinery companies !!!! they are ramming technology down our neck, its great but ,.... is it affordable ????????????? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ....its outa control !!!
The problem I have with the EV is the mining of the materials for the batteries is done with child labor with no regulation for the workers so until we stop that from happening I wish people would stop supporting the EV industry god bless 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏
Does a better job if you go a few degrees angle to the existing rows. I have a 2022 8R410 with the IVT. Love that monster. Love the cab, love the ride. Spoils you!
I've always wondered about doing a diesel-electric drive in agriculture equipment. Railroad locomotives have been doing it for 50+ years mostly because the torque and power they operate at would make any mechanical transmission ludicrously big.
Hi Cale, I would think the tractor and disc would be close to $850.000 to $950.000 do to a new model and having a diesel engine and electric motors for power
The tractor should have no problems with the electric drives on the new planter. New Bigger monitor and gps along with more options on the tractor for 24.
Very nice machine, but watch the economy, other sectors are slowing! I grew up on a farm in the 1980s and lived the disaster then, so consider overhead! Mark twain said that history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme, wise words in these crazy times.
Hi Cale. Will Laura get to demoe it too. She will be mad at you if you don't let her drive it . Happy Holidays to you and all your friends and family. Love your channel.
Interesting, so is the idea you can run a smaller diesel motor, thereby using less fuel, and the electric motors can do the work of the comparable JD diesel model?
Not much left by mid summer next year. Depends on how warm your climate is. Up north where the ground is frozen from November to April it takes longer. The soil bacteria are mostly inactive below 45 F
Electrical is everywhere in ag,solenoids for hydraulics,actuators,fuel injection. Fully electrical is not possible, and won't be for 50 years. The grid can't handle passenger vehicles, much less commercial trucking, and ag on top of that. More systems to fail (wires can break in hidden places,hoses show leaks),not as smooth controls as hydraulic, more expensive to repair . Farmers say they want right to repair(as they should),but buy higher optioned equipment..what is next,combines with sunroofs? Hybrid technology is great for fuel savings,but if the higher initial cost is greater is it worth it? We also know it will not last near as long as a big bud which is easy to repair,but nobody is rushing to buy older technology . The problem with subsidies, they skew real data and they evolutionize into new data ...obscuring the original data line. Unfortunately pandora's technology box has been opened. Yes this is being posted on a smartphone with GPS enabled.
@@deerefredj5975 it’s all unaffordable. We’ve been squeezed by the equipment industry to the point of no return I’m afraid. Top to bottom, it’s a mess.
Tractor is probably close to 650 thousand all in. Implement 150 to 185 thousand. They will have that and the new 8 and 9 At the Farm show along with the new planters. I watched the Agritechnica show from Germany. JD put on quite the show.
Looks like it will do good job, you need a more angle on blades. More in the cab driving an explaining be fine too. Too much time lost working walking around field talking.
$820,000?? That's more than triple what the 8r 370 cost. No matter how good a tractor is, there's no tractor worth over three quarters of a million dollars!
@@timothygeiger8271case quadtrac, Deere 9rs, new holland t9s, fendt 1100s, and versatile DTs would disagree with you lol. I agree they’ve been run up but over half a mil is pretty common if you’re buying new.
Do you think it wise to even try to mess with a unit this ccomplicated? A company of course would not want an untrained shade tree mechanic screwing with their machinery.
@@glennspreeman1634It’s impressive but if you’re knowledgeable it’s not that complicated. Diesel electric has been around for 60+ years on trains, this is just the first time I’m aware of it being put in a tractor.
@@Beyonder8335 Fendt has one small full electric tractor but the other series with VarioDrive or Vario ML-Drive do not have electrix components in the drive train.
Enough power to power 50 houses? That doesn’t happen by magic. what does it take to charge? how long does the charge take? how much fuel does it save? What’s the equivalent to a fuel hauler for batteries? What is the battery replacement timeframe?
Deere can’t keep the equipment running now, I can’t wait till these hit the market. I feel sorry for service techs that will have to work on these. Nothing against the channel, I think you do a fine job. This is Deere trying to push an agenda that isn’t going to work!
@@gregjames5070 That is fantastic news, but it doesn’t have anything to do with JD putting more bullshit into their equipment. Their quality control ain’t what it used to be to say the least. It’s just pushing an agenda that won’t work in the end and people quit buying them because of the headaches.
Question of the day, no transmission, diesel over electric, do they make a combine like that? If they do, I know someone that might trade red for green. 😂
@M8Stealth I may have misheard/misunderstood Cale, but I thought he said it was infinite speed control. I interpreted that as like Tesla and other Electric cars. Guess I was wrong.
@@lynwessel2471after looking at JD websites it looks to be more or less an electricly shifted automatic multi geared transmission. Still lots of moving parts. I thought it would be simpler, less parts. I wonder if it will have similar hunting issues like automatic semis.
@@Captain-Max Its an infinitely variable transmission, not the Power Shift trans. I plant with one and have seen one torn apart. 2 ranges with hydros driving it. The EVT uses 2 electric motors instead of the hydros.
What happens when the grid goes down or is cut down in any way what will happen not to mention the shear cost and maintenance of such a machine !!?? Sorry but most people dont have that much confidence in the current and future economy.
I think you’re misunderstanding how this works. It’s diesel electric, which means it runs a conventional diesel engine, but instead of running into a traditional transmission the output from the engine powers a generator which then runs electric motors that actually drive the machine.
Is it anymore more fuel efficient the a straight diesel IVT tractor of the same size? If not what's the point of the diesel electric other then it costing more with more parts to fail....Looks like a marketing 101 by Deere and company.
@@Beyonder8335 The eAutoPowr has not much in common with the drivetrain of a diesel-electric train. It has 5 speed ranges and the two hydro engines of the AutoPowr are replaced by electric engines. According to Profi Magazin, John Deere itself claims that the efficiency is at about the same level as the regular AutoPowr.
@@Beyonder8335 Power output is a main benefit for future implements. The e-engines are quieter than hydro-units and maybe last longer. But the eAutoPowr is also more complicated because it implies 8 clutches. Never the less it should be a step forward, I think.
This dude is either very uneducated or really likes to fill people full of bullshit. The evt came out for 2023my. We had 2 of them this spring. Just ordered them fall of 22 and they showed up spring of 23.
Congrats on getting the JD Tractor Demo! We appreciate you Farmers so much. Love the statement “17 Adjustments til Sunday😅😅 Praying for You Folks
Interesting video, though I was hoping you'd get into the tractor more! Diesel/electric sounds like the technology that powers train locomotives! If so, it could be quite a break through! Hope you do more on the tractor after you've run it for a bit!!
Your talking allows us to understand what you are doing with the specific machine. Thank you.
Having lived in California for a 'couple' of years, I always enjoy the sun coming out!!!
This opens up a lot of possibilities. Running electric carts and planters vs hydraulic would be super efficient. Possibility of having manure tanks with drive axles and grain carts with driven tracks is possible. Not sure why there isn’t a convertible manure tank/grain cart out there. As ballast is such a common thing it would be possible to have significant batteries as ballast to smooth out power delivery and reduce diesel consumption. You could even have the tractor on Grid Tie standby during offseason peak power demand as networked virtual power plants to make revenue when its not being used. Interesting times. Partially electrifying combines must be in development, get rid of the belts, chains and hydrostatic drives.
Amazing tractor. Build and adapter to run your electricity when it goes out in a windstorm.
What a beautiful machine
Tractor only $662,503.00. 2660VT Vertical Tillage, 25 Ft. 5 In. $145,667.00. Total price together $808,170.00
OMG ,I think grain prices need to increase by 250% or we will only be working for the machinery companies !!!! they are ramming technology down our neck, its great but ,.... is it affordable ????????????? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ....its outa control !!!
John Deere 8r 410 ❤:)
Sorry for the loss of your dad
The problem I have with the EV is the mining of the materials for the batteries is done with child labor with no regulation for the workers so until we stop that from happening I wish people would stop supporting the EV industry god bless 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏
It’s a diesel electric like a locomotive. It has regular batteries to start the diesel engine.
Cale very outstanding in his field. So it cut not only 1th, twice, but thrice. Lot of gadgets and gizmos.
Does a better job if you go a few degrees angle to the existing rows. I have a 2022 8R410 with the IVT. Love that monster. Love the cab, love the ride. Spoils you!
With 100 KW where is the plug to power the shop and or house when you have a power outage when its 12 degrees out side ?
I've always wondered about doing a diesel-electric drive in agriculture equipment. Railroad locomotives have been doing it for 50+ years mostly because the torque and power they operate at would make any mechanical transmission ludicrously big.
Hi Cale, I would think the tractor and disc would be close to $850.000 to $950.000 do to a new model and having a diesel engine and electric motors for power
Total for both (before taxes) is under 900 H, as the tractor runs between 650-700 H w/ the VT 150-200 H. 🤔
You ain't doing a damn thing, set it to the max.
The tractor should have no problems with the electric drives on the new planter. New
Bigger monitor and gps along with more options on the tractor for 24.
Very nice machine, but watch the economy, other sectors are slowing! I grew up on a farm in the 1980s and lived the disaster then, so consider overhead! Mark twain said that history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme, wise words in these crazy times.
I love VTs especially in the spring to make a great seed bed before planting. 25' VT $60,000 and Tractor $350,000
That tractor is 600k new.
I bet. The battery is probably the most expensive part of it and guessing it's probably at least half the cost of it
@@sammuelmeger7996 there is no battery, it goes straight to the motors. Just like a diesel-electric train.
I don't anything about them
A 410 hp tractor is over 500k.
Dam we getting into a Diesel Locomotive let’s get a set of tracks and send on its way. 😵💫👍🤣
I like it I like it I like it my guess would be by 1 million little less Maybe
Hi Cale. Will Laura get to demoe it too. She will be mad at you if you don't let her drive it . Happy Holidays to you and all your friends and family. Love your channel.
Interesting, so is the idea you can run a smaller diesel motor, thereby using less fuel, and the electric motors can do the work of the comparable JD diesel model?
Electric motors replace hydrostatic drives in the IVT transmission. Electric is more efficient than hydrostatic fluid drive.
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In todays $$ value, the EV set up is under 1 million but over 600K $$
How long does it take for the corn stalks to decompose?
Not much left by mid summer next year. Depends on how warm your climate is. Up north where the ground is frozen from November to April it takes longer. The soil bacteria are mostly inactive below 45 F
850,000 for tractor and the VT 220 thou. 🙂
I thought Ag would extend a little more resistance on the whole EV push… I thought wrong.
Electrical is everywhere in ag,solenoids for hydraulics,actuators,fuel injection.
Fully electrical is not possible, and won't be for 50 years.
The grid can't handle passenger vehicles, much less commercial trucking, and ag on top of that.
More systems to fail (wires can break in hidden places,hoses show leaks),not as smooth controls as hydraulic, more expensive to repair .
Farmers say they want right to repair(as they should),but buy higher optioned equipment..what is next,combines with sunroofs?
Hybrid technology is great for fuel savings,but if the higher initial cost is greater is it worth it?
We also know it will not last near as long as a big bud which is easy to repair,but nobody is rushing to buy older technology .
The problem with subsidies, they skew real data and they evolutionize into new data ...obscuring the original data line.
Unfortunately pandora's technology box has been opened.
Yes this is being posted on a smartphone with GPS enabled.
its ridiculous and un-affordable , let alone un-sustainable as main farming tools to most farmers !!!
@@deerefredj5975 it’s all unaffordable. We’ve been squeezed by the equipment industry to the point of no return I’m afraid. Top to bottom, it’s a mess.
It’s not a traditional EV, rather diesel electic, much like trains, which have been using the same concept for 60+ years.
Tractor is probably close to 650 thousand all in. Implement
150 to 185 thousand. They will have that and the new 8 and 9
At the Farm show along with the new planters. I watched the Agritechnica show from Germany. JD put on quite the show.
Looks like it will do good job, you need a more angle on blades. More in the cab driving an explaining be fine too. Too much time lost working walking around field talking.
$820,000 for the tractor fully loaded with options and plus $165,000 for the implement.
$820,000?? That's more than triple what the 8r 370 cost. No matter how good a tractor is, there's no tractor worth over three quarters of a million dollars!
@@timothygeiger8271case quadtrac, Deere 9rs, new holland t9s, fendt 1100s, and versatile DTs would disagree with you lol.
I agree they’ve been run up but over half a mil is pretty common if you’re buying new.
Corn is 4.5$ send it back
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750,000
Is this an owner fix & repair tractor, or only maintainable by dealer?
Do you think it wise to even try to mess with a unit this ccomplicated? A company of course would not want an untrained shade tree mechanic screwing with their machinery.
You can fix any of them yourself
@@glennspreeman1634It’s impressive but if you’re knowledgeable it’s not that complicated. Diesel electric has been around for 60+ years on trains, this is just the first time I’m aware of it being put in a tractor.
I'm going to guess $325,000 for the tractor, & $75,000 for the implement?
Some comments here are suggesting this tractor is battery powered ,WRONG diesel with parts of the transmission electric.
So JD is catching up to Fendt.
Does fendt have an electric drive transmission? If they do I haven’t heard of it.
@@Beyonder8335 Fendt has one small full electric tractor but the other series with VarioDrive or Vario ML-Drive do not have electrix components in the drive train.
Enough power to power 50 houses?
That doesn’t happen by magic. what does it take to charge? how long does the charge take? how much fuel does it save?
What’s the equivalent to a fuel hauler for batteries?
What is the battery replacement timeframe?
No batteries. It's a diesel electric like a locomotive.
1.5 million dollars
$750k for the tractor and $200k for the implement
tractor 875000.00 disc 135750.00
Tractor is $475,000. Disc is $65,000. How did I do? Thanks
I don't see any red tractors ..............
LEAAD Farms
The tractor would cost $500,000
The VT is $200,000
Sounds like trouble. Double trouble.
$725,000 both together
Deere can’t keep the equipment running now, I can’t wait till these hit the market. I feel sorry for service techs that will have to work on these. Nothing against the channel, I think you do a fine job. This is Deere trying to push an agenda that isn’t going to work!
😂😂😂😂😂😂Diesel electric has been working for for 60 plus years in locomotive, mining equipment, ships and more. 😂
@@gregjames5070 That is fantastic news, but it doesn’t have anything to do with JD putting more bullshit into their equipment. Their quality control ain’t what it used to be to say the least. It’s just pushing an agenda that won’t work in the end and people quit buying them because of the headaches.
Diesel-electric does have potential, so much more than full electric.
Should be more efficent than hydrostat
@@glennspreeman1634 According to Profi Magazin, John Deere itself claims that the efficiency is at about the same level as the regular AutoPowr.
Question of the day, no transmission, diesel over electric, do they make a combine like that? If they do, I know someone that might trade red for green. 😂
This tractor still has a mutli-speed powershift transmission paired with the electric motor.
@M8Stealth I may have misheard/misunderstood Cale, but I thought he said it was infinite speed control. I interpreted that as like Tesla and other Electric cars.
Guess I was wrong.
@@Captain-MaxYes. Its like the IVT transmission except electric motors instead of hydrostatic drives
@@lynwessel2471after looking at JD websites it looks to be more or less an electricly shifted automatic multi geared transmission. Still lots of moving parts. I thought it would be simpler, less parts. I wonder if it will have similar hunting issues like automatic semis.
@@Captain-Max Its an infinitely variable transmission, not the Power Shift trans. I plant with one and have seen one torn apart. 2 ranges with hydros driving it. The EVT uses 2 electric motors instead of the hydros.
2660vt $141,000
If you like green why a red combine
$475,000.00
Tractor $664,000
What happens when the grid goes down or is cut down in any way what will happen not to mention the shear cost and maintenance of such a machine !!?? Sorry but most people dont have that much confidence in the current and future economy.
Without deficit spending, we, the US, do not have an economy. Now, or in the future.
I think you’re misunderstanding how this works. It’s diesel electric, which means it runs a conventional diesel engine, but instead of running into a traditional transmission the output from the engine powers a generator which then runs electric motors that actually drive the machine.
Is it anymore more fuel efficient the a straight diesel IVT tractor of the same size? If not what's the point of the diesel electric other then it costing more with more parts to fail....Looks like a marketing 101 by Deere and company.
Diesel electric is way more efficient than an IVT. There’s a reason that trains have been using it for the past 60 years.
@@Beyonder8335 The eAutoPowr has not much in common with the drivetrain of a diesel-electric train. It has 5 speed ranges and the two hydro engines of the AutoPowr are replaced by electric engines.
According to Profi Magazin, John Deere itself claims that the efficiency is at about the same level as the regular AutoPowr.
@@melvd3484 ah I see, my mistake. I suppose the main benefit would be the power off boarding tjen
@@Beyonder8335 Power output is a main benefit for future implements. The e-engines are quieter than hydro-units and maybe last longer. But the eAutoPowr is also more complicated because it implies 8 clutches. Never the less it should be a step forward, I think.
@@melvd3484 def. I am suprised nobody has tried a proper diesel electric tractor yet though.
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Appreciate the demo but to much talking and in the dark can’t see the job it’s doing.
Also, all the drone footage was corrupted.
@@LEAADFarms it didn’t seem like your other videos
eh the cost....gosh I don't know, tractor I'll say $365K and the VT, eh.. $55k.
100 kw will not power 50 homes. Maybe 5 .
Why don't you have devastators on your corn head?
will not power 50 homes avg home 20 to 30kw
This dude is either very uneducated or really likes to fill people full of bullshit. The evt came out for 2023my. We had 2 of them this spring. Just ordered them fall of 22 and they showed up spring of 23.
🔍 I can't seem to find your video of them in 2023 on your channel..
750,000