Dear Curious Spotter: here's the calculation from a fellow lifelong Avgeek... A 747 burns 1 gallon of JET fuel per second which is 60 gallons per minute. A 20-minute go-around would have totalled 1,200 gallons. IATA current quote for the fuel is 196.04 cents/gallon. X 1,200 = $2,356.80. I hope you consider giving prizes for the effort ;)
The average airborne operating cost of a Boeing 747-400 is between $24,000 and $27,000 per hour, around $39.08 to $43.97 per mile, using approximately $15,374 in fuel per hour.Apr. 5, 2015 + or - other operating cost approx. fuel cost $7,000✈
Who's to blame? ATC, ground ops, aircraft already on runway, turtle walking on the center stripe? Regardless, 747 could be arriving from halfway around the world. Prob enuf fuel left for 2+ go arounds. But no excuse for not clearing runway once 747 was cleared for final approach. What do u think?
I ran a quick profile for a 20 minute go around and assuming CLB thrust for 5 minutes "CRZ" for 15 minutes and a 5-minute approach you are going to ROUGHLY burn 3973 KG of Jet A which is 1324 gallons of Jet A. Assuming a price of $2 that is somewhere around $2648.89. I rounded a lot, but that should be pretty close for the TSFC for CLB, CRZ, and DES for the CF6.
Fuel burn of approx 10 to 12 tons per hour for a 744, 20Min pattern. Plus extra for that Go-Around Thrust. What does 5 tons of Fuel costs in the States? And consider the delayed arrival, maybe late delivery of Cargo to Customer. At least, but I dont know the Scheduled Ground Times, maybe further delay in Aircraft Rotation! Hard to tell whats that in summary
200 series @ $5,000 an hour operating cost, depending on where they were coming from, cargo load weight and how long the PIC kept the TOGA switch on for….. My guess, that was a $12k to $14k go around. Being that she had to climb 4,000 feet very quickly.
Hi, John. I found this explanation -> "These "white colored" aircraft are usually recently sold or leased airplanes that have been removed from service by their previous owner, then sold or leased to the present Operator who hasn't yet had the aircraft painted. As previously stated, there has to be a Registration Number affixed on the tail or fuselage that is clearly visible... There's a prefix letter assigned by the country of registration, followed by a string of characters. U.S. airplanes have a registration number that begins with "N" and other countries have different prefixes."
The cost is of no matter, it is the cost of doing business, the terms of cost should never be in the brain of a situation of a go around, too many lives have been lost over the years due to things such as cost. And in those situations the cost was un payable.
Go around less costly than not going around
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Dear Curious Spotter: here's the calculation from a fellow lifelong Avgeek... A 747 burns 1 gallon of JET fuel per second which is 60 gallons per minute. A 20-minute go-around would have totalled 1,200 gallons. IATA current quote for the fuel is 196.04 cents/gallon. X 1,200 = $2,356.80. I hope you consider giving prizes for the effort ;)
How tight are the margins in the air freight business? Did this go around cost the flight all of its profits?
Very detailed response! You got the gold medal! Thanks for the explanation! Cheers
Compared to the cost of inspection and maintenance due to a hard landing, it's a drop in the bucket.
Ohh I could feel the gforces in my gut, just watching that 747 pull back up like that. Very smooth all the way around.
You can't put a price on safety.
I believe this "ghost" Queen is screaming because she knew the cost!
It may cost the airline, but it’s a gift for spotters
The average airborne operating cost of a Boeing 747-400 is between $24,000 and $27,000 per hour, around $39.08 to $43.97 per mile, using approximately $15,374 in fuel per hour.Apr. 5, 2015 + or - other operating cost approx. fuel cost $7,000✈
When I saw the cost estimate question $5,000 popped into my mind, even though I know nothing about the cost of jet fuel.
When you consider flights are planned with up to two hours fuel reserve for any flight, its really a non factor.
Who's to blame? ATC, ground ops, aircraft already on runway, turtle walking on the center stripe? Regardless, 747 could be arriving from halfway around the world. Prob enuf fuel left for 2+ go arounds. But no excuse for not clearing runway once 747 was cleared for final approach. What do u think?
It may have cost the airline, but safety is always first. Passenger's or no passenger's. Safety is always number 1!
Who was responsible for the go-around? Turkish Airlines, Control Tower or Atlas?
beautiful plane
I ran a quick profile for a 20 minute go around and assuming CLB thrust for 5 minutes "CRZ" for 15 minutes and a 5-minute approach you are going to ROUGHLY burn 3973 KG of Jet A which is 1324 gallons of Jet A. Assuming a price of $2 that is somewhere around $2648.89. I rounded a lot, but that should be pretty close for the TSFC for CLB, CRZ, and DES for the CF6.
Nice capture
Fuel burn of approx 10 to 12 tons per hour for a 744, 20Min pattern. Plus extra for that Go-Around Thrust. What does 5 tons of Fuel costs in the States?
And consider the delayed arrival, maybe late delivery of Cargo to Customer.
At least, but I dont know the Scheduled Ground Times, maybe further delay in Aircraft Rotation! Hard to tell whats that in summary
200 series @ $5,000 an hour operating cost, depending on where they were coming from, cargo load weight and how long the PIC kept the TOGA switch on for….. My guess, that was a $12k to $14k go around. Being that she had to climb 4,000 feet very quickly.
Thousands of dollars I'm sure! Nice camera work @The Curious Spotter. (As always!!)
Thanks @MD Otto!
Not the usual livery for Atlas Air. Notice the minimal markings. Flying military cargo perhaps?
Quite possibly.....Kelsey of 74 Gear is an FO for Atlas. Also flies military on occasion as well as the Dreamlifter.
Off the subject, would be nice to see the make and models of these planes! Types of engines would be a plus!!
Was the pilot who responded in fact Kelsey Hughes from 74 Gear ? I wonder....
That was close :O
I wouldnt have a clue at the price of fuel today & Im from UK aswell. Nice to watch though. Happy Monday👍
$5-10K $ USD..but LIFE IS WORTH IT.... F the cost!
For sure the safety is number one priority!
Lol! At 0:41 somehow I heard in my mind a french voice say: "20 minutes later" 😅😅
i like this screaming sound, weeeeeeeeeew
The boys get to take an extra lap around the pattern
Wow cool close up!🔥 May I ask what camera you use?
Sony HXR-NX80
What was the reason for the go round? Do we know?
Yes, there was an aircraft on the runway exiting too slow.
@@TheCuriousSpotter In LAX they taxi quite quickly at times... at least it looks for me that way in some videos... ;)
0:07 General Electric (GE) CF6-80C2 Throttle up
Why no markings on the plane?
Not sure...Someone suggested in a comment that it might sometimes work for the military.
Hi, John. I found this explanation -> "These "white colored" aircraft are usually recently sold or leased airplanes that have been removed from service by their previous owner, then sold or leased to the present Operator who hasn't yet had the aircraft painted. As previously stated, there has to be a Registration Number affixed on the tail or fuselage that is clearly visible... There's a prefix letter assigned by the country of registration, followed by a string of characters. U.S. airplanes have a registration number that begins with "N" and other countries have different prefixes."
The youtube channel "simpleflying" made a video about it "What Are White Tail Aircraft?"
Why is the atlas air white?
Government clandestine work.
Ok
Pretty cheap when you consider damage to plane if there was a problem..they requested a go round for a reason
I think the 777 was in the Way but idk
A go around is a go around. Costs are factored in.
who pays for the extra jet fuel?
yeah fuel waste but no problem came if there was no AirTraficControl = crash
The cost is of no matter, it is the cost of doing business, the terms of cost should never be in the brain of a situation of a go around, too many lives have been lost over the years due to things such as cost. And in those situations the cost was un payable.
la prima cosa e la Sicurezza . no i Soldi
Cost of doing business.
five tons
what ever the cost,it is cheaper then lives and the planes being ruined
7,000.00
I think it costed them like 10 dollars.
... if that ... ;)
Who cares if costs a few bucks in gas. That is nothing. Why even bring that up? How much does it cost to circle when there are storms?,
Just pointing out the enormous fuel usage these jumbo jets have
$10K
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