NOTE: After editing this video, I remembered an earlier amp-in-case combo, which predated the late 1940s Selmer, the late 1930s National Dobro Supro 60 amp-in-case. It was not a Spanish style guitar, but rather a Hawaiian style, but it probably takes the prize as the earliest guitar and amp in case combo: ua-cam.com/video/elLAbFvML0k/v-deo.html Also, Selmer had its own Hawaiian style amp in case model in the late 40s also under the Truvoice brand. Click here for an overview of the Truvoice Selmer brand: www.vintagehofner.co.uk/selmer/early/sel7.html
I'm 58 now and I had one of those in 1973 when I was 13. I can't remember what TV show it was but I saw "Skunk" Baxter play one of those. I was all into Kiss back then and I made an Explorer body out of 2 layers of 3/4 " plywood that was glued together and I bolted the Silvertone neck to it. I bought a Customcraft Les Paul when I was 15 and to celebrate my new guitar I put an M-80 in the Silvertone and blew a big hole in it. What was left of the guitar and case went into the garbage. By 1993 I was touring with the rock band "Brother Cane" doing front of house sound. We were in a guitar store in Nashville, and I saw my guitar and case for sale for $700.00. I about choked when I saw what those things were selling for. I see them on eBay now for over $1000.00 in some instances.
You really made that set-up sound good,I think they would have sold a bunch of those at Christmas time having someone like you demonstrating them in store at Sears.
Haha...touche! Imagine also a time when we didn't spray Roundup all over our yards to express a monoculture and use gas-powered leaf blowers rather than rakes. :P
Wow... my dad had this guitar when i was a kid... I barley remember it, but i think he owned only guitar. And about that roundup, its pure poison that government wants us to use to poison ourselves, same with those "energy saving" bulbs...(BTW nice video that u done on that bulbs) who knows what is the future...
Ever read the warning on those crazy light bulbs? "IF BROKEN CALL HAZMAT TEAM" They have Mercury poison Roundup ready seeds we have now the Plant's Grow the Roundup in the plant GMO's = Death they don't call em Terminator Seeds for nothing.. I use to see lots of toads & bugs bee's I don't see anymore it's that Roundup being sprayed imo.
A buddy from High School in Aurora Colorado (around 69-72) with whom I'm still in contact with, had the two pickup version of that guitar. His was a reddish sunburst color as I recall.
Thanks so much for another great video. I really find very video you release just as interesting or more than the last one. I'm still working on all the older ones and have enjoyed every one so far, you are a wealth of information as are a lot of your watchers and commenters. Thank you and so many on your channel. (Always wanted one of these and didn't know so much of the history, so cool!)
So not only do you fix wonderful vintage gear but you play beautifully as well. Its allways satisfying to get to hear what you've repaired @ the end of each video. As well as get to learn about some great obscure equipment. TY & I look forward to more videos from you in the future.
Been playing guitars since 12 and I'm 53 now and this my first time to learn of a hard case amp. So much so that it is tube and transformer less. To top them all up the sound is really from tube. Many thanks. I want one.
The 1457 Guitars alone go for 1,000 I have a 1457 2 Pickup but we have to remember that was for young teens in the 60's, the parents could get a whole rig for the kid for less than 2 $200.00 mail ordered any where. There were no Sears Stores at the time. To move a little off topic. At age 12 the music was Radio tunes and I like the guitar sounds. So, I got the Big 1484, and a Hornet delivered. I saved for a year to buy my first electric. I worked 12 hours in a chicken house for $5.00 and when I got it I treated good!!!!! Started first Garage band age 14. I had to pick the notes and figure the chords out on 45 records by ear.
There were Sears department stores, but only in the big cities. Most of the country was serviced by mail order in those days. Isn't it interesting that with the shift from brick and mortar retail to online shopping like Amazon that this has now come full circle! Granted, we have UA-cam now, so no trying to figure out chords from a 45RPM record. Great comment! Thanks for sharing that.
I lived in the Country side all farmers and my Dad had a country store so he could find work for me to make money. We got a Wards Catalog and a Sears Roebuck Catalog and a Montgomery Ward catalog. Sears was best.
This was my first electric guitar and amp. In the mid early to mid 60's i played the Sunburst version of this guitar. I would turn the case on its end, (vertically) with the speaker up top and it sounded great and everyone thought i had a much bigger amp!! I loved these. I would go for it again with a bit more power in the amp/case!
Excellent post,thank you. Some of the Harmony and Kay made examples look very familiar to us in the UK. The now defunct UK chain store sold a similar Kay, branded as Audition. I have one with a zero fret. They also had a matching bass. Loved the catalogue shots, golden days of my youth! Salute'.
Excellent video. You covered this completely and correctly. I ought to know...I started playing guitar with the 1448 setup waaaaay back in the summer of 1966.
I'd be willing to bet that this guitar/amp combo has never sounded this good before.......Well Done......Congrats on the guitar room food service too!!!! COOL Video........
My dad used to play this guitar back in the 70’s and 80’s and that’s the reason I got interested in playing. Loved the sound of the amp when you turn the power.
my dad had that same set. oh the memories of him rockin out the belvis ,when i was just a little kid. he was like the neighborhood rock star air force guy. it is amazing how well the sound is come through. it is giving me flashback. thanks so much.
Thanks for sharing that, man. That reminds me of a cheap catalog amp I had one time that had the name and address and rank of an Air Force pilot still written on the back panel. No telling what that thing saw in its day.
Great job Brad.Very informative and I really enjoyed the sears and wards catalogue shots ,It brings alot of old memoried as I was always looking at guitars in my moms Sears and Wards ones in the 60s.
What an awesome setup, thanks for sharing! I have a pair of '60s lipsticks waiting for a guitar, you've just motivated me to make this project happen much sooner:)
Your recording skills and quality are improving drastically. I would totally rock this setup for work when I go out of town. I thought about building a 2 watt micro Bassman or Deluxe into a Fender Tweed case, then I realized there's not enough room for the transformers and speaker. Series filament is about the only way to get a tube amp into a case not designed for it. Great video!
Also, yes, I'm working on my editing skills and purchased some new toys and software. Getting better all the time. Before long, I'll need a director's chair. :P
The Guitologist please don't let production get in the way of your videos. The sound quality is second to content imo. Besides, your videos have always sounded great to me.
You inspired me to take my 1449 of the wall and noddle with it a little for the first time in decades. It was my first electric. If I recall, it was $79 around 1964.
Never heard about these kind of amp-cases, very cool! I'm so glad you make videos of rare old amps, I live in Sweden and we dont ever see any Valco, Silvertone or Magnatone amps here. Mostly Fenders and Marshalls and they dont go for peanuts, not even in bad condition.
A great video Brad. Not seen or heard much about these case amps, so your potted history and informative incite into them was cool. And that deep mellow tone from a speaker mounted in a flimsy case lid was just fantastic. Nice playing too 👍
I had a T-60. It was a P O S! It never stayed in tune! My brother had this exact guitar in a box. We changed the headstock to look like a Vox teardrop and took the strip of draw liner off and filled and sanded it and painted Blue sparkle with Testors model car paint. It was sharp! In the 60s I spend many a fun hour looking at Sears, Mont. Ward, JC Penny, Spiegel, and even Western Auto had for a few years a small line of guitars and stereos. There were some others but I cant remember all of them. Great video! Brought back some wonderful memories. You made her sound good! Course you could put strings on a baseball bat or a 2X4 and it would sound good! Thankz
There is a product called CLP that works miracles freeing up seized screws. I recently used it on a Silvertone Strat copy . I was setting the intonation and the bridge saddle adjustment screws were seized. After a drop of CLP they were free in just a few seconds.It is actually a gun cleaning product and you can find it in the sporting goods section at Wal Mart and other department stores that sell firearm accessories. I don't know what it would do to the finish if it got on the guitar body, so be careful about that.
This was my first guitar and amp, purchased new at the closest Sears store to my town. My dad had added a reverb unit and footswitch jack to the case-amp which I still have today, but stopped using when the guitar was stolen from my parent's car around 1967.
I happen to like Danelectro guitars.. I've owned the 56 U2 and U3 models (3 pickups). Hard to beat for the money.. the guitars I bought were the late 90's models. solid guitars and played great actually... I recently had the Peavey T-15 guitar (no amp) and T-26... awesome guitars....
Hey brad, this is a really great video! I would love to see more stuff like this, or more videos about taking inexpensive guitars and making them great. How about a video, where you make a homemade amp? I know that a lot people enjoyed your musical instrument hoarder videos, and we loved the field trip videos. Maybe consider doing some more videos with the type of content that I listed above will bring in lots a views.
I have the two-pickup version my grandpa bought me for $8 when I was a kid in the mid seventies. I've never heard how the amp case sounded before - sounds great here!
Thanks for this video. It brought me so much joy to reminisce about my first guitar. I got this on my 10th birthday in 1977. I had such a great time learning on this. Learning Barr chords on this guitar took so much effort as the string height was about a 1/4 inch. I never knew what that eyelet adjusted the neck, I might have gotten an easier playing guitar. Oh, I didn't understand why I got the living crud shocked when I got to sing thru a Pevey PA and Touched my mouth to the mic, But now I understand why. Thanks for that. Great video.
I have wanted to make an amp-in-case ever since I first saw them, but I actually want to make it so you could have your pedalboard in the case as well. And with SMPS boards today, that can give you B+ voltages even from batteries, I'd like to try making it a tube amp.
blackcorvo BINGO! A company like Boss could make that happen as a production item if they really wanted. It would be awesome. Use the Boss circuits in the amp itself and include a separate foot controller that stores in the guitar case also. Could be super cool.
This one definitely brings back memories! In the late 60s, two grade school classmates started up a "garage band", and the "bass player" (we taught him to play) had one of these amp-in-case BASS guitars. Not much bass from that wimpy amp and speaker combo! Later, both the guitarist and bassist upgraded to Kustom 250s with 3 15" Jensens in the guitar cabinet and 3 15" JBLs in the bass cabinet. WHAT MONSTERS to haul around! But we were a pretty popular 3-piece hard-rock band!
Brings back memories of my very first gig in the early 60’s. My only guitar was an arch top Harmony Broadway with a clip on pickup. I didn’t have an amp. I played it through my parents Magnavox hifi. So for the gig (a spaghetti feed at a high school cafeteria) I rented a Silvertone guitar and amp from Sears. All I remember is the guitar was black and white and the top was black Formica with gold specks all through it. Probably a single pickup. We were a hit and that started about 55 years of guitar playing. My next guitar was a brand new ‘65 Fender Mustang. Can’t remember what I did for an amp.
Thanks for this! My 1448 guitar has the neck bent like yours, which ruins intonation and action. Will try a similar approach for straightening. One of the best things I have ever done is buying a 1448 amp in case plus guitar for cheap while I was in the U.S. Mine is quite worn out, or better :wrecked, but after fixing the worst still has a great feel and tone. Perfect for garage / LoFi sound. Also hard to get one on the other side of the big pond. I did get electrocuted when jamming with a buddy and touching his guitar's strings while showing chords ... and it was the worst electric shock I have ever felt (used to work as an electrician and had a few....). I fixed it with an isolation transformer and 3-prong cord. I would consider doing that if you own the amp. Cheers!
I remember 30 years ago when you could find these Silvertone amp in the case models at flea markets for a few hundred dollars. Now, they are worth almost the same as a vintage Les Paul.
when I was a teen, my stepdad had one of those guitars with amp in case but the amp didn't work when he got it. I played the guitar through a 1971 Kenwood 6420 amp receiver that was custom modded for use as the primary sound system in a club with a total output of just under 12,000 watts.. yes that much and those mods included usable mic and guitar input jacks. It really sounded good even with that Sears sold Silvertone with the lipstick pickups.. It had a pair of Sansui SP-X8900 speakers hooked up to it... and cranked up sounded a lot like a Marshall full stack...Fun times...
Thanks for providing a sample sound of the package at the end of the video. I was curious throughout as you were explaining the composition of both the amp and guitar of what can this thing possibly sound like? If we could plant ourselves back in the times when these were sold in the Sears catalogs, I think we would be impressed by its tone actually. Based on your demo, the package had a nice, warm tone with an equally warm OD when you attacked the strings. Thanks for sharing, and for educating us on these DanElectro innovations.
The Guitologist That's good to hear. As it stands I think it's already good enough for UA-cam, and more or less gives a good representation of the tones you're getting. I go to your channel to follow your amp fixing process like an apprentice would his master craftsman. So far I've been able to bring back to life a Bassman 135 and an SF Dual Showman thanks to the stuff I learned here!
Those trim pieces kinda look like door thresholds for flooring. Very interesting video, thanks man..so cool .I remember seeing and desiring these guitars back in the 60s. We settled on a Supro guitar with a Supro amp..I think was a 12 or 15 watt. That was in 1967. Which at the time I think was a little better set up than the Danelectro stuff. I ended up trading the Supro in for a cream colored , used Telecaster..in 1969 or so..I was playing pretty well by then , and I needed an upgrade. This video made me go back and think of all the old guitars of the 60s we used to dream about. I started with a generic Spanish box guitar we got with S&H greenstamps.
I had that exact Peavy guitar. The feel of he neck alone made it the guitar I sold that ended the sale of any further of my own guitars. The regret was massive.
Great video! I have a 1448 myself. Those little amps sound great for what they are. I tried to mod the guitar with a Danelectro bridge with adjustable saddles, but the saddles are not in the correct position, relative to the old rosewood bridge, so it still won't intonate. Been thinking about getting a compensated wood bridge made that will fit the original plate.
Hey! I just wanted to let you know that you earned my subscription with this video :) I've seen a few of your videos already, but the subject of this particular one really caught my attention. You delivered a lot of great insight on the amp-in-a-case movement, as well as on the Danelectro brand guitars. I always knew there's a lot of thought behind their quirky faces! The bit at the end where you played sounded really great. Your chops were excellent :) And the tone? Man, much more pleasing than the modern 5 watters I played! So impressive that it comes from a 6" speaker. Oh, and the bit where your girl came over to offer you a sandwich was absolutely adorable. I just couldn't help but smile :) See you in the next one! Tom
My first electric. I wanted any Fender offered by my teacher/dealer, but Dad was only generous enough to take a trip to Sears and buy this combo. I always enjoyed it. A great memory is in 1966 taking it to a girl friend's house, and being the center of attention for several other girls. My coverage included Walk Don't Run, a a couple of Beatles songs. Good enough to make me a rock star for the hour!!
I was going to say no way to the amp in the case till I heard it. That is an excellent idea for practice and or small get togethers. Sears and Roebuck so sad to see them die.
I really hope Sears can pull out of its tailspin. It needs to start converting strategic stores into warehouse space and go all online like Amazon. They have the real estate space to warehouse and compete on that level. Ironically, they'll have to go back to their "catalog" roots, but take it all online and figure out how to drive traffic to their online footprint. If they can figure that out, they'll have a future.
There's actually a couple small companies building semi-hollow thinline style guitars with the amp and a small speaker built *right into the body of the guitar.*
Loved this video. I got this same model guitar/case for Christmas in 1964 when I was in the 4th grade. I dropped the violin lessons right after I saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. :) To the best of recollection, the case and guitar weighed 23 pounds. I hated lugging it to lessons.
I have the 2 💄 p'ups with the 8" speaker in Case. It was my Daddy's so it's priceless to Me.. And man what a Dirty Blues Sound tone ..let me watch now.. New Sub ...thinks for this
I think I can help you out with the term for that U-channel used for the tuners. ;) 35W4 + 50C5 + 12AU6 only adds up to 97V for the filaments; that Hugh Jazz wire wound ceramic resistor (I'm guessing about 120 ohms, since the filaments are 150mA) must be dropping the extra voltage in the filament string. Also, that little chunk of iron is probably a choke in the power supply; you don't typically see isolation transformers in series filament amplifiers. Considering the volume and tone quality manufacturers are getting out of rechargeable puck speakers, I think the amp-in-case paradigm is overdue for a comeback. Include a simple analog cab sim and somewhere to stash your favorite rodenty or screamy dirt box and you've got a decent busker kit; add a line out and the case could double as a foldback monitor.
I wonder if the field coil speaker was borne out of the concern that a permanent magnet might well affect the pickup when paired together in more extended storage?
AMStationEngineer interesting take. Permanent magnet speakers weren't used widely until the 1940s. Maybe the war copper rationing had something to do with that.
Doesn't look like anyone gave you info on the guitars. The body border material was vinyl wallcovering. The keys are thumb screws from a roller skate company. Skates were adjustable from pair of shoes to another. The thumb screws would loosen or tighten the skate. The body is made from masonite. Countertops and kitchen flooring were also made from masonite. The neck was made from pine 2X4s. Lipstick tubes courtesy of revlon. The sparkle finish is silver paint that was flipped from a brush onto the guitar. Last but not least the tailpiece was the pedal part of a trash can. Step on the pedal and the top would pop up. stuck a piece of wood on it, bolted in the place of the pedal connection to arm that lifts top of trash can. I have 1 that I have kept all these years. I love them. And buy and sell them.
Crazy. I had no clue those even existed (born late 70's) and I just saw this exact model in a Guitar Center in Beaverton Oregon like a week ago, and then I randomly stumble on this video. I don't recall exactly but I think they were asking in the neighborhood of $800-1000 for it. Looked about the same shape as this one. The tuners and pickguard shape caught my eye. Way out of my budget for right now but if anyone is looking for this machine that Guitar Center might still have it. I have no idea if they have the case as well.
Hi, I'm a great fan of your work! I noticed when you were reviewing the chasis (around 28:35) you mention the "isolation transformer". I'm working on a 1451 model with the same layout and want to put a 3 line power cord on it. From what I can tell from other sites, that may not be an isolation transformer???? They suggest that these definitely need an additional isolation transformer modification for the 3 line power cord mod. Any additional thoughts on that? Thanks for the great vids!
There are different kinds of isolation transformer. This one isolates the input tube's filament. Other isolation transformers you hear about people installing in series filament amps isolate the mains voltage for the entire amp. I discuss this in a few past videos. Many of those vids are in this playlist: ua-cam.com/video/TuZxY3-26Lw/v-deo.html&list=PL68vqBBsqTi9bBnS13G8rFHzhS_WYPKPf&index=4
Had one of these as a teenager. Touched my lips to a mic while playing it. Felt like I'd been punched in the mouth, and my neighbors saw the flash that lit up my bedroom! To quote Miracle Max, thank you so much for brining up such a painful subject! ;)
This is amazing, when you play a beautiful guitar through a beautiful amp and then your beautiful daughter arrives to dance for you and offer you a peanut butter sandwich. You're living a dream, man! My dauther is only one year and a month old and I already have a lot of fun and she loves playing with my guitars. :) By the way, today I recorded a rock (I'd say a stoner rock song) using only a neck pickup (only! first time ever only!). So I think this amazing guitar is the way to go anywhere! Nice guitar and amp, sir! And as always - nice playing :)
What’s funny is Jim de cola worked for peavey and he designed the Wolfgang model with Eddie and peavey pioneered cnc machining in guitar manufacturing… now Gibson has a cnc wood mill and Jim is now head luthier there…. Ppl still hating on peavey while playing a new les paul
Them skate key tuners. I love Danos. There's just something about them. The cheap yet resonant formica. Those great lipstick pickups. That jangly sound. I love em.
I had the same 20 years ago, I was a fan of The Flat Duo Jets and it took me almost a year to be able to ship it from Seattle to Paris. This is a killer Duo with the amp in case and a great guitar/cartboard with a lot of mojo like the Airlines, Silvertones. This amp cums when you broke into, this is a pure R'N'R animal it kills all the new amps, it rocks as a beast!
Thanks! Seeing the picture of my old Harmony Rocket WITH an original Bigsby tailpiece brought back some good memories.The neck eventually warped so I chucked it but wished I saved the Bigsby. BTW-- you have to go with the jelly too man!
Also the only way you can get the twist out is to strip the finish and steam the neck, then setup in fixture to dry ! Almost forgot..... After drying, you should finsh with a light oil, do not use unrefined Tung oil ! Some folks have had bad reactions like an allergy on contact . As for the adjustment screw, that chrome shoulder was glued to the screw ! It was cheaper than having a machined part !!
I got an all original 1449 from the original owner for $0. It was time to clean out I guess. The 1449 and the 1457 are essentially the same thing except for the former having the black and white color scheme and the latter having the sunburst-esque finish, but 1449's are the rarest of the all the Danelectro amp-in-case units as it was only produced in 1963. It was the first 2 pickup model in this line and was replaced in 1964 by the 1457. Transformer and tube date codes from mine jive with this.
I remember seeing these in sears when I was a kid.Something In my head said the amp in the case idea had some draw backs but it was novel to me.Also there was a electronic company Lafayette that sold the same line of guitars. In that store I seen mostly Kay and Harmony guitars. Back then tooling was not consistent so the playability of the guitars varied. Very Interesting video. I had no idea there were so many other guitar in case manufacturers. Thanks for sharing
I think the big reason for not making amps in cases anymore is they now make amps that can fit in your case like the Vox MV50 and you have the option of putting it anywhere you want, not just fixed in the case. The Vox is 50 watts and has a little tube inside, loud enough for any gig. Great video though. Love the tone of that Silverstone!
Well, now that you mention it...why not make the amp capable of snapping in and out with a couple clips? See, present a problem and I'll offer a solution. I should be making the big bucks. :P
My first guitar was a Sears Silvertone 1448 in case amp. Loved the sound of the amp but the guitar was really tough to play. The action was so high. Probably warped neck. Toughened my fingers up though. Then I played my Les Paul through it also. Still sounded great. Fun little item that amp. Warm and gritty is how I heard it.
As I recall (I don't play steel, but I'm a big Speedy West fan), most Supro lap steels came with an amp built into the case back in the 1940's. I'm not sure when they stopped doing that. Rickenbacker did that with some of their lap steels too.
I put a note about that in a sticky comment. Not all Supros came with them, but yes, as early as 1938, they had an amp-in-case model. So this idea goes almost back as far as production electric guitars.
There was also a company in the 60's or 70's that had an amp in the case that could run off an AC cord or batteries either one. Now that was a regular guitar, not a lap steel, but I sure can't think of the name of it.
Very entertaining. I found one in a pawn shop, here in northern New Mexico, $100.00. Needed some work and now i love it. Lots of info here I didn't know. I heard the sparkle was shavings from the aluminum nut milling. Confermation?. I got a little giddy when I saw the amp in case for the Rick. I have the lap steel with original case. But now I must find that amp case. You got a sub out of this vid. Thanks!
Scooter Lee Thanks for subbing! Welcome aboard the crazy train. Interesting tidbit on the aluminum shavings! That would make perfect sense for a Nat Daniel product. He wasted nothing, by the sound of it.
My buddy bought one of these sitting in a local pawn shop. Nobody was really interested in it and the price was about $60. I had the chance to play it, and as flunky as it may appear, it was pretty cool sounding. It's funny how things like this from the past that were at the time bottom tier, are now elevated to collectible status. In some cases the craftsmanship of yesterdays entry level gear, exceeds that of modern high end.
NOTE: After editing this video, I remembered an earlier amp-in-case combo, which predated the late 1940s Selmer, the late 1930s National Dobro Supro 60 amp-in-case. It was not a Spanish style guitar, but rather a Hawaiian style, but it probably takes the prize as the earliest guitar and amp in case combo: ua-cam.com/video/elLAbFvML0k/v-deo.html
Also, Selmer had its own Hawaiian style amp in case model in the late 40s also under the Truvoice brand. Click here for an overview of the Truvoice Selmer brand: www.vintagehofner.co.uk/selmer/early/sel7.html
The Guitologist can you think of anyone who has produced a modern version?
Opening or closing the lid of case is the EQ control.
Exactly! An placing it in front of a concrete wall or a laminate paneled wall will affect the tone as well. Empty basement = reverb and delay!!! :D
Yes it is Bro.. But they also have 1/4 Close/open , mid close/open, 3/4 & Full! 🤠💯
Is it just me, or does that cheap hunk of plywood actually sound good?
RB Brown it ain't just you. I dig it too.
Nope,sounds great.
Danelectro was good for Jimmy Page , so can't be all that bad
Sounds as real as it gets from back in the days.
I'm 58 now and I had one of those in 1973 when I was 13. I can't remember what TV show it was but I saw "Skunk" Baxter play one of those. I was all into Kiss back then and I made an Explorer body out of 2 layers of 3/4 " plywood that was glued together and I bolted the Silvertone neck to it. I bought a Customcraft Les Paul when I was 15 and to celebrate my new guitar I put an M-80 in the Silvertone and blew a big hole in it. What was left of the guitar and case went into the garbage. By 1993 I was touring with the rock band "Brother Cane" doing front of house sound. We were in a guitar store in Nashville, and I saw my guitar and case for sale for $700.00. I about choked when I saw what those things were selling for. I see them on eBay now for over $1000.00 in some instances.
I always carry my amp with me, JUST IN CASE lol. Brilliant, because why not!
I see what you did there...and I approve.
Carry on wayward Son.
Dima Pavlenko A case of one joke too many? :)
this is turning me into a nutCASE!
I am usually against puns, but in this *case* , i will let it slide.
You really made that set-up sound good,I think they would have sold a bunch of those at Christmas time having someone like you demonstrating them in store at Sears.
They sold a bunch anyway. This was a time when being a "rock star" actually meant something.
29:15 to hear how it sounds
That was my first guitar,mowed a lot of lawns to get one,never sounded that good. Thanks for the memories.
Imagine that...youngsters going out and working off their guitars.
Haha...touche! Imagine also a time when we didn't spray Roundup all over our yards to express a monoculture and use gas-powered leaf blowers rather than rakes. :P
Wow... my dad had this guitar when i was a kid... I barley remember it, but i think he owned only guitar.
And about that roundup, its pure poison that government wants us to use to poison ourselves, same with those "energy saving" bulbs...(BTW nice video that u done on that bulbs) who knows what is the future...
Ever read the warning on those crazy light bulbs? "IF BROKEN CALL HAZMAT TEAM" They have Mercury poison Roundup ready seeds we have now the Plant's Grow the Roundup in the plant GMO's = Death they don't call em Terminator Seeds for nothing.. I use to see lots of toads & bugs bee's I don't see anymore it's that Roundup being sprayed imo.
Frances Nieznay Not no more; as with lemonade stands, professional city bureaucrats are requiring business licenses for kids to mow lawns and such...
A buddy from High School in Aurora Colorado (around 69-72) with whom I'm still in contact with, had the two pickup version of that guitar. His was a reddish sunburst color as I recall.
..I just bought the case for that model from Aurora, ..might have been owned by your friend way back when, ..?
@@benwright6330 You never know. Could have been.
Thanks so much for another great video. I really find very video you release just as interesting or more than the last one. I'm still working on all the older ones and have enjoyed every one so far, you are a wealth of information as are a lot of your watchers and commenters. Thank you and so many on your channel.
(Always wanted one of these and didn't know so much of the history, so cool!)
Buddy Martin Thanks for the comment, Buddy. Lot of bright and knowledgeable people comment on this channel.
So not only do you fix wonderful vintage gear but you play beautifully as well. Its allways satisfying to get to hear what you've repaired @ the end of each video. As well as get to learn about some great obscure equipment. TY & I look forward to more videos from you in the future.
What an incredibly adorable interruption :D
Been playing guitars since 12 and I'm 53 now and this my first time to learn of a hard case amp. So much so that it is tube and transformer less. To top them all up the sound is really from tube. Many thanks. I want one.
This one is for sale if you want it.
The 1457 Guitars alone go for 1,000 I have a 1457 2 Pickup but we have to remember that was for young teens in the 60's, the parents could get a whole rig for the kid for less than 2 $200.00 mail ordered any where. There were no Sears Stores at the time. To move a little off topic. At age 12 the music was Radio tunes and I like the guitar sounds. So, I got the Big 1484, and a Hornet delivered. I saved for a year to buy my first electric. I worked 12 hours in a chicken house for $5.00 and when I got it I treated good!!!!! Started first Garage band age 14. I had to pick the notes and figure the chords out on 45 records by ear.
There were Sears department stores, but only in the big cities. Most of the country was serviced by mail order in those days. Isn't it interesting that with the shift from brick and mortar retail to online shopping like Amazon that this has now come full circle! Granted, we have UA-cam now, so no trying to figure out chords from a 45RPM record. Great comment! Thanks for sharing that.
I lived in the Country side all farmers and my Dad had a country store so he could find work for me to make money. We got a Wards Catalog and a Sears Roebuck Catalog and a Montgomery Ward catalog. Sears was best.
I hardly got past the underwear section on those. :P
I still haven't figured out where to pick up a vintage woman.
those vintage women are waiting for their value go up before they expose to the public
I await with bated breath. They don't make women like they used to. Today, they wear meat dresses and cellophane.
This was my first electric guitar and amp. In the mid early to mid 60's i played the Sunburst version of this guitar. I would turn the case on its end, (vertically) with the speaker up top and it sounded great and everyone thought i had a much bigger amp!!
I loved these. I would go for it again with a bit more power in the amp/case!
Excellent post,thank you. Some of the Harmony and Kay made examples look very familiar to us in the UK. The now defunct UK chain store sold a similar Kay, branded as Audition. I have one with a zero fret. They also had a matching bass. Loved the catalogue shots, golden days of my youth! Salute'.
Excellent video. You covered this completely and correctly. I ought to know...I started playing guitar with the 1448 setup waaaaay back in the summer of 1966.
Maybe this one was yours! :P
Tubes being first-quarter 1966 makes it a possibilty. Probability is, obviously, a bit more remote.
I'd be willing to bet that this guitar/amp combo has never sounded this good before.......Well Done......Congrats on the guitar room food service too!!!! COOL Video........
George Howell the peanut butter was the highlight for me.
Line 6's next amp model.
If only Line 6 sounded anywhere near as good as this.
wow, that actually sounded pretty damn good. really didn't expect that from a silvertone.
My dad used to play this guitar back in the 70’s and 80’s and that’s the reason I got interested in playing. Loved the sound of the amp when you turn the power.
I live how the cleans break up in this thing. Nice.
Yeah, just hit the hell out of the strings and it responds with grit.
Well holy crap, that little thing sounds pretty cool provided you want a bluesy/garage rock sort of tone.
Steve Floyd Yeah, it does that one thing well.
my dad had that same set. oh the memories of him rockin out the belvis ,when i was just a little kid. he was like the neighborhood rock star air force guy. it is amazing how well the sound is come through. it is giving me flashback. thanks so much.
Thanks for sharing that, man. That reminds me of a cheap catalog amp I had one time that had the name and address and rank of an Air Force pilot still written on the back panel. No telling what that thing saw in its day.
Outstanding production on this one Brad.
Thanks. I bit the bullet and upgraded my editing software and I can already tell things are going to improve as I get used to using it.
I had one of these. Was my 1st electric, circa 1973. came with flat wounds.
Great job Brad.Very informative and I really enjoyed the sears and wards catalogue shots ,It brings alot of old memoried as I was always looking at guitars in my moms Sears and Wards ones in the 60s.
I was always looking at something else in those catalogs. :D
LOL.
What an awesome setup, thanks for sharing! I have a pair of '60s lipsticks waiting for a guitar, you've just motivated me to make this project happen much sooner:)
Your recording skills and quality are improving drastically. I would totally rock this setup for work when I go out of town. I thought about building a 2 watt micro Bassman or Deluxe into a Fender Tweed case, then I realized there's not enough room for the transformers and speaker. Series filament is about the only way to get a tube amp into a case not designed for it.
Great video!
Matt Fields they managed! See the discussion of the 1449
Also, yes, I'm working on my editing skills and purchased some new toys and software. Getting better all the time. Before long, I'll need a director's chair. :P
The Guitologist please don't let production get in the way of your videos. The sound quality is second to content imo. Besides, your videos have always sounded great to me.
My father had this exact guitar and case. Lord only knows where it is now. I recall learning how to play on this rig when I was young.
Yeah, this one seems to have touched a lot of people's deep memories. Nice to hear.
You inspired me to take my 1449 of the wall and noddle with it a little for the first time in decades. It was my first electric. If I recall, it was $79 around 1964.
Never heard about these kind of amp-cases, very cool!
I'm so glad you make videos of rare old amps, I live in Sweden and we dont ever see any Valco, Silvertone or Magnatone amps here. Mostly Fenders and Marshalls and they dont go for peanuts, not even in bad condition.
If I moved to Europe, I'd have to import my collection. Can't like without my Danelectros, Gibsons, and Valcos.
Sticking with this to the end with your daughter was great, so cute.
Thanks, Rich.
Brilliant amp-guitar-case combo. I loved the sound of it! Really vintage.
A great video Brad. Not seen or heard much about these case amps, so your potted history and informative incite into them was cool. And that deep mellow tone from a speaker mounted in a flimsy case lid was just fantastic. Nice playing too 👍
ChrisBuck66JTM45 thanks, Chris.
I had a T-60. It was a P O S! It never stayed in tune! My brother had this exact guitar in a box. We changed the headstock to look like a Vox teardrop and took the strip of draw liner off and filled and sanded it and painted Blue sparkle with Testors model car paint. It was sharp! In the 60s I spend many a fun hour looking at Sears, Mont. Ward, JC Penny, Spiegel, and even Western Auto had for a few years a small line of guitars and stereos. There were some others but I cant remember all of them. Great video! Brought back some wonderful memories. You made her sound good! Course you could put strings on a baseball bat or a 2X4 and it would sound good! Thankz
There is a product called CLP that works miracles freeing up seized screws. I recently used it on a Silvertone Strat copy . I was setting the intonation and the bridge saddle adjustment screws were seized. After a drop of CLP they were free in just a few seconds.It is actually a gun cleaning product and you can find it in the sporting goods section at Wal Mart and other department stores that sell firearm accessories. I don't know what it would do to the finish if it got on the guitar body, so be careful about that.
Thanks for the tip.
great choice on the 9's. wouldn't want any more tension on that old guitar. Sounds awesome Brad☺
Good point. With the neck already having troubles, the 9s will keep it stable.
This was my first guitar and amp, purchased new at the closest Sears store to my town. My dad had added a reverb unit and footswitch jack to the case-amp which I still have today, but stopped using when the guitar was stolen from my parent's car around 1967.
I happen to like Danelectro guitars.. I've owned the 56 U2 and U3 models (3 pickups). Hard to beat for the money.. the guitars I bought were the late 90's models. solid guitars and played great actually... I recently had the Peavey T-15 guitar (no amp) and T-26... awesome guitars....
Hey brad, this is a really great video! I would love to see more stuff like this, or more videos about taking inexpensive guitars and making them great. How about a video, where you make a homemade amp? I know that a lot people enjoyed your musical instrument hoarder videos, and we loved the field trip videos. Maybe consider doing some more videos with the type of content that I listed above will bring in lots a views.
I had a Peavey with the amp in the case and it was awesome, had a lot of fun with it.
I have an old case & an old 5W practise amp I don't use. This is giving me some crazy ideas. Where's my screwdriver & drill?
I have the two-pickup version my grandpa bought me for $8 when I was a kid in the mid seventies. I've never heard how the amp case sounded before - sounds great here!
Thanks for this video. It brought me so much joy to reminisce about my first guitar. I got this on my 10th birthday in 1977. I had such a great time learning on this. Learning Barr chords on this guitar took so much effort as the string height was about a 1/4 inch. I never knew what that eyelet adjusted the neck, I might have gotten an easier playing guitar.
Oh, I didn't understand why I got the living crud shocked when I got to sing thru a Pevey PA and Touched my mouth to the mic, But now I understand why. Thanks for that. Great video.
Robert Hatalla your experience isn't atypical. Thanks for the comment!
I have wanted to make an amp-in-case ever since I first saw them, but I actually want to make it so you could have your pedalboard in the case as well. And with SMPS boards today, that can give you B+ voltages even from batteries, I'd like to try making it a tube amp.
blackcorvo BINGO! A company like Boss could make that happen as a production item if they really wanted. It would be awesome. Use the Boss circuits in the amp itself and include a separate foot controller that stores in the guitar case also. Could be super cool.
blackcorvo a tube amp is doable too. Just need the right profile PT.
This one definitely brings back memories! In the late 60s, two grade school classmates started up a "garage band", and the "bass player" (we taught him to play) had one of these amp-in-case BASS guitars. Not much bass from that wimpy amp and speaker combo! Later, both the guitarist and bassist upgraded to Kustom 250s with 3 15" Jensens in the guitar cabinet and 3 15" JBLs in the bass cabinet. WHAT MONSTERS to haul around! But we were a pretty popular 3-piece hard-rock band!
Love the guest appearance at the end :)
She's been guest appearing in my vids since she was tiny. :P
Eric Johnson recently played a brief demo using this guitar and amp combo. Sounded great, proving a lot of tone comes from the player.
Brings back memories of my very first gig in the early 60’s. My only guitar was an arch top Harmony Broadway with a clip on pickup. I didn’t have an amp. I played it through my parents Magnavox hifi. So for the gig (a spaghetti feed at a high school cafeteria) I rented a Silvertone guitar and amp from Sears. All I remember is the guitar was black and white and the top was black Formica with gold specks all through it. Probably a single pickup. We were a hit and that started about 55 years of guitar playing. My next guitar was a brand new ‘65 Fender Mustang. Can’t remember what I did for an amp.
Thanks for this! My 1448 guitar has the neck bent like yours, which ruins intonation and action. Will try a similar approach for straightening.
One of the best things I have ever done is buying a 1448 amp in case plus guitar for cheap while I was in the U.S. Mine is quite worn out, or better :wrecked, but after fixing the worst still has a great feel and tone. Perfect for garage / LoFi sound. Also hard to get one on the other side of the big pond.
I did get electrocuted when jamming with a buddy and touching his guitar's strings while showing chords ... and it was the worst electric shock I have ever felt (used to work as an electrician and had a few....). I fixed it with an isolation transformer and 3-prong cord. I would consider doing that if you own the amp. Cheers!
My main guitar since 2010 and I love it
Cool, man. Do you mic it up for shows at all?
The Guitologist I just use a bigger amp, the case is actually in storage. Sounds good through an old ampeg though live.
This was my first. Wish I still had it..
I remember 30 years ago when you could find these Silvertone amp in the case models at flea markets for a few hundred dollars. Now, they are worth almost the same as a vintage Les Paul.
when I was a teen, my stepdad had one of those guitars with amp in case but the amp didn't work when he got it. I played the guitar through a 1971 Kenwood 6420 amp receiver that was custom modded for use as the primary sound system in a club with a total output of just under 12,000 watts.. yes that much and those mods included usable mic and guitar input jacks. It really sounded good even with that Sears sold Silvertone with the lipstick pickups.. It had a pair of Sansui SP-X8900 speakers hooked up to it... and cranked up sounded a lot like a Marshall full stack...Fun times...
Thanks for providing a sample sound of the package at the end of the video. I was curious throughout as you were explaining the composition of both the amp and guitar of what can this thing possibly sound like? If we could plant ourselves back in the times when these were sold in the Sears catalogs, I think we would be impressed by its tone actually. Based on your demo, the package had a nice, warm tone with an equally warm OD when you attacked the strings.
Thanks for sharing, and for educating us on these DanElectro innovations.
loving the new recording setup!
themarcoharder thanks! Yeah, it's improving. I'm getting a bit more patient with it.
The Guitologist That's good to hear. As it stands I think it's already good enough for UA-cam, and more or less gives a good representation of the tones you're getting. I go to your channel to follow your amp fixing process like an apprentice would his master craftsman. So far I've been able to bring back to life a Bassman 135 and an SF Dual Showman thanks to the stuff I learned here!
Good call on skipping the jelly on the sandwich too. Never liked jelly on bread
Have this. Dad bought it for me at sears 1964.. first guitar. still in case amp working. I"m 65 and still play in a hard rock cover band.
That neck adjustment screw is a top notch idea
Those trim pieces kinda look like door thresholds for flooring. Very interesting video, thanks man..so cool .I remember seeing and desiring these guitars back in the 60s. We settled on a Supro guitar with a Supro amp..I think was a 12 or 15 watt. That was in 1967. Which at the time I think was a little better set up than the Danelectro stuff. I ended up trading the Supro in for a cream colored , used Telecaster..in 1969 or so..I was playing pretty well by then , and I needed an upgrade. This video made me go back and think of all the old guitars of the 60s we used to dream about. I started with a generic Spanish box guitar we got with S&H greenstamps.
I had that exact Peavy guitar. The feel of he neck alone made it the guitar I sold that ended the sale of any further of my own guitars. The regret was massive.
aj2674 yep. Peavey T Series necks are consistent and very nice.
Great video! I have a 1448 myself. Those little amps sound great for what they are. I tried to mod the guitar with a Danelectro bridge with adjustable saddles, but the saddles are not in the correct position, relative to the old rosewood bridge, so it still won't intonate. Been thinking about getting a compensated wood bridge made that will fit the original plate.
Hey! I just wanted to let you know that you earned my subscription with this video :)
I've seen a few of your videos already, but the subject of this particular one really caught my attention. You delivered a lot of great insight on the amp-in-a-case movement, as well as on the Danelectro brand guitars. I always knew there's a lot of thought behind their quirky faces!
The bit at the end where you played sounded really great. Your chops were excellent :) And the tone? Man, much more pleasing than the modern 5 watters I played! So impressive that it comes from a 6" speaker.
Oh, and the bit where your girl came over to offer you a sandwich was absolutely adorable. I just couldn't help but smile :)
See you in the next one!
Tom
Thanks a lot, Tom. I appreciate the sub, and welcome aboard the crazy train!
My first electric. I wanted any Fender offered by my teacher/dealer, but Dad was only generous enough to take a trip to Sears and buy this combo. I always enjoyed it. A great memory is in 1966 taking it to a girl friend's house, and being the center of attention for several other girls. My coverage included Walk Don't Run, a a couple of Beatles songs. Good enough to make me a rock star for the hour!!
My first guitar too bought at Sears by my Dad for Christmas 1963....
I also "wanted" a Fender Strate...but Dad went economy
Did the job tho...
I was going to say no way to the amp in the case till I heard it. That is an excellent idea for practice and or small get togethers. Sears and Roebuck so sad to see them die.
I really hope Sears can pull out of its tailspin. It needs to start converting strategic stores into warehouse space and go all online like Amazon. They have the real estate space to warehouse and compete on that level. Ironically, they'll have to go back to their "catalog" roots, but take it all online and figure out how to drive traffic to their online footprint. If they can figure that out, they'll have a future.
There's actually a couple small companies building semi-hollow thinline style guitars with the amp and a small speaker built *right into the body of the guitar.*
Adam Rainstopper I'm aware of those.
Well ok then.....I thought it was a cool idea anyway.
SImilar guitars have been around since the 60s. Teisco made the first one I'm aware of.
Teisco sold it under the Silvertone brand also: www.silvertoneworld.net/electric/1487/1487.html
Loved this video. I got this same model guitar/case for Christmas in 1964 when I was in the 4th grade. I dropped the violin lessons right after I saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. :) To the best of recollection, the case and guitar weighed 23 pounds. I hated lugging it to lessons.
Bravo on your end-trow! Some sweet notes in your finished jam. Thank you!
I still have my Peavey T-15, which I got dirt cheap because the amp was missing from the case. It's my baby.
RastaSaiyaman buy a Roland Cube and build it into the empty amp space!
That's a pretty good idea.
Looks over at his T-15 and his Cube...
The Guitologist or possibly a percolator amp
I have the 2 💄 p'ups with the 8" speaker in Case. It was my Daddy's so it's priceless to Me.. And man what a Dirty Blues Sound tone ..let me watch now.. New Sub ...thinks for this
I think I can help you out with the term for that U-channel used for the tuners. ;)
35W4 + 50C5 + 12AU6 only adds up to 97V for the filaments; that Hugh Jazz wire wound ceramic resistor (I'm guessing about 120 ohms, since the filaments are 150mA) must be dropping the extra voltage in the filament string. Also, that little chunk of iron is probably a choke in the power supply; you don't typically see isolation transformers in series filament amplifiers.
Considering the volume and tone quality manufacturers are getting out of rechargeable puck speakers, I think the amp-in-case paradigm is overdue for a comeback. Include a simple analog cab sim and somewhere to stash your favorite rodenty or screamy dirt box and you've got a decent busker kit; add a line out and the case could double as a foldback monitor.
I think the amp is brilliant and so is your playing! You have a talent for playing, more please.
I wonder if the field coil speaker was borne out of the concern that a permanent magnet might well affect the pickup when paired together in more extended storage?
AMStationEngineer interesting take. Permanent magnet speakers weren't used widely until the 1940s. Maybe the war copper rationing had something to do with that.
Doesn't look like anyone gave you info on the guitars. The body border material was vinyl wallcovering. The keys are thumb screws from a roller skate company. Skates were adjustable from pair of shoes to another. The thumb screws would loosen or tighten the skate. The body is made from masonite. Countertops and kitchen flooring were also made from masonite. The neck was made from pine 2X4s. Lipstick tubes courtesy of revlon. The sparkle finish is silver paint that was flipped from a brush onto the guitar. Last but not least the tailpiece was the pedal part of a trash can. Step on the pedal and the top would pop up. stuck a piece of wood on it, bolted in the place of the pedal connection to arm that lifts top of trash can. I have 1 that I have kept all these years. I love them. And buy and sell them.
Crazy. I had no clue those even existed (born late 70's) and I just saw this exact model in a Guitar Center in Beaverton Oregon like a week ago, and then I randomly stumble on this video. I don't recall exactly but I think they were asking in the neighborhood of $800-1000 for it. Looked about the same shape as this one. The tuners and pickguard shape caught my eye. Way out of my budget for right now but if anyone is looking for this machine that Guitar Center might still have it. I have no idea if they have the case as well.
Very nice. You make that rig sound fantastic.
Thanks for that. Appreciate you watching.
Hi, I'm a great fan of your work! I noticed when you were reviewing the chasis (around 28:35) you mention the "isolation transformer". I'm working on a 1451 model with the same layout and want to put a 3 line power cord on it. From what I can tell from other sites, that may not be an isolation transformer???? They suggest that these definitely need an additional isolation transformer modification for the 3 line power cord mod. Any additional thoughts on that? Thanks for the great vids!
There are different kinds of isolation transformer. This one isolates the input tube's filament. Other isolation transformers you hear about people installing in series filament amps isolate the mains voltage for the entire amp. I discuss this in a few past videos. Many of those vids are in this playlist: ua-cam.com/video/TuZxY3-26Lw/v-deo.html&list=PL68vqBBsqTi9bBnS13G8rFHzhS_WYPKPf&index=4
Had one of these as a teenager. Touched my lips to a mic while playing it. Felt like I'd been punched in the mouth, and my neighbors saw the flash that lit up my bedroom! To quote Miracle Max, thank you so much for brining up such a painful subject! ;)
This is amazing, when you play a beautiful guitar through a beautiful amp and then your beautiful daughter arrives to dance for you and offer you a peanut butter sandwich. You're living a dream, man!
My dauther is only one year and a month old and I already have a lot of fun and she loves playing with my guitars. :)
By the way, today I recorded a rock (I'd say a stoner rock song) using only a neck pickup (only! first time ever only!). So I think this amazing guitar is the way to go anywhere! Nice guitar and amp, sir! And as always - nice playing :)
Peter Osipov As T-Rex said...life's a gas!
The Guitologist As a side note, did you see where Lady Gaga bought Frank Zappa's house.Talking about woman wearing meat dresses.
What’s funny is Jim de cola worked for peavey and he designed the Wolfgang model with Eddie and peavey pioneered cnc machining in guitar manufacturing… now Gibson has a cnc wood mill and Jim is now head luthier there…. Ppl still hating on peavey while playing a new les paul
Them skate key tuners. I love Danos. There's just something about them. The cheap yet resonant formica. Those great lipstick pickups. That jangly sound. I love em.
I had the same 20 years ago, I was a fan of The Flat Duo Jets and it took me almost a year to be able to ship it from Seattle to Paris. This is a killer Duo with the amp in case and a great guitar/cartboard with a lot of mojo like the Airlines, Silvertones. This amp cums when you broke into, this is a pure R'N'R animal it kills all the new amps, it rocks as a beast!
Awesome video Brad. I learned a lot. Thanks.
Whenever I see this guitar, I can't help but think of the late J Geils dunking it into a vat of blue paint in the Freeze Frame video.
Thanks! Seeing the picture of my old Harmony Rocket WITH an original Bigsby tailpiece brought back some good memories.The neck eventually warped so I chucked it but wished I saved the Bigsby. BTW-- you have to go with the jelly too man!
I like my nuts with no jiggle.
I had one. Still have a Silvertone Piggy back. I KNOW it was a great idea..still is!
i have the red one pictured at 17:40. The amp has a tremolo effect built into it. Awesome little amp anyway.
Also the only way you can get the twist out is to strip the finish and steam the neck, then setup in fixture to dry ! Almost forgot..... After drying, you should finsh with a light oil, do not use unrefined Tung oil ! Some folks have had bad reactions like an allergy on contact . As for the adjustment screw, that chrome shoulder was glued to the screw ! It was cheaper than having a machined part !!
Very enjoyable! Thanks for posting this awesome piece of history. Kudos. I eat these videos like crazy.
Brilliant!! I really love the high end model with the 6v6
Bob Boitt yes! That is a wonderful setup. Big smiles when I get one of those.
I got an all original 1449 from the original owner for $0. It was time to clean out I guess. The 1449 and the 1457 are essentially the same thing except for the former having the black and white color scheme and the latter having the sunburst-esque finish, but 1449's are the rarest of the all the Danelectro amp-in-case units as it was only produced in 1963. It was the first 2 pickup model in this line and was replaced in 1964 by the 1457. Transformer and tube date codes from mine jive with this.
I remember seeing these in sears when I was a kid.Something In my head said the amp in the case idea had some draw backs but it was novel to me.Also there was a electronic company Lafayette that sold the same line of guitars. In that store I seen mostly Kay and Harmony guitars. Back then tooling was not consistent so the playability of the guitars varied. Very Interesting video. I had no idea there were so many other guitar in case manufacturers. Thanks for sharing
I think the big reason for not making amps in cases anymore is they now make amps that can fit in your case like the Vox MV50 and you have the option of putting it anywhere you want, not just fixed in the case. The Vox is 50 watts and has a little tube inside, loud enough for any gig. Great video though. Love the tone of that Silverstone!
Well, now that you mention it...why not make the amp capable of snapping in and out with a couple clips? See, present a problem and I'll offer a solution. I should be making the big bucks. :P
That thing actually sounds way better than I expected, very cool.
My first guitar was a Sears Silvertone 1448 in case amp. Loved the sound of the amp but the guitar was really tough to play. The action was so high. Probably warped neck. Toughened my fingers up though. Then I played my Les Paul through it also. Still sounded great. Fun little item that amp. Warm and gritty is how I heard it.
As I recall (I don't play steel, but I'm a big Speedy West fan), most Supro lap steels came with an amp built into the case back in the 1940's. I'm not sure when they stopped doing that. Rickenbacker did that with some of their lap steels too.
I put a note about that in a sticky comment. Not all Supros came with them, but yes, as early as 1938, they had an amp-in-case model. So this idea goes almost back as far as production electric guitars.
There was also a company in the 60's or 70's that had an amp in the case that could run off an AC cord or batteries either one. Now that was a regular guitar, not a lap steel, but I sure can't think of the name of it.
I think it had a name like a surf song or band. Telstar maybe?
I had a Silvertone amp case back in the 70s. Great idea
Very entertaining. I found one in a pawn shop, here in northern New Mexico, $100.00. Needed some work and now i love it. Lots of info here I didn't know. I heard the sparkle was shavings from the aluminum nut milling. Confermation?. I got a little giddy when I saw the amp in case for the Rick. I have the lap steel with original case. But now I must find that amp case. You got a sub out of this vid. Thanks!
Nice playing btw.
Scooter Lee Thanks for subbing! Welcome aboard the crazy train. Interesting tidbit on the aluminum shavings! That would make perfect sense for a Nat Daniel product. He wasted nothing, by the sound of it.
The body is masonite and the edging material was used on 1960s dining room tables ase edging. Masonite was popular as dining table top material.
I ate off many of them growing up. Thin metal legs.
LOL...so did i...
Holy crap! It’s either the setup with the tubes or the player or both.
My buddy bought one of these sitting in a local pawn shop. Nobody was really interested in it and the price was about $60. I had the chance to play it, and as flunky as it may appear, it was pretty cool sounding. It's funny how things like this from the past that were at the time bottom tier, are now elevated to collectible status. In some cases the craftsmanship of yesterdays entry level gear, exceeds that of modern high end.
Nice - still have one that my parents bought new back in the 60's. The tuning pegs were different though.
Interesting. I don't recall seeing one with different tuners.
I believe they are open...can see the gears...will check. Maybe my parents took off the weird cover...