I'm trying to determine how to get started in barebow recurve, so your channel is perfectly timed. The biggest thing confusing me at the moment is how to find local competitions. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I look forward to reviewing your other videos.
Hi Elton, Great introductory segment. I am looking forward to future installments. Thank you for putting your channel up and helping out the Barebow community. Be safe and Best to you and Brenda. Rick Mansberger Redmond Sports Group 🏹🎯🏹
Thanks so much for starting this channel. We look forward to seeing your content. We met you in Harrisonburg this year at indoor nationals and are some of the people that didn't know what we didn't know. Sam (my 15 year old son) is working with Michael Holson now as well. Thanks for all you guys do for this awesome community!
@@andrewromano-fw5vp why are you trying to use such a high draw weight? You are likely over bowed and that will greatly hamper your ability to learn good form and shot execution.
Hi.. i've recently picked up barebow shooting for leisure and have a question that nobody seem to be able to advise me on - "Are 'blade-rests' allowed/legal for barebow in competitions..?" thnx.. 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
Hi, Larry. When you refer to blade rests, are you talking about the kind used in compound divisions that cradle the arrow from below? If so, there are no rules specifically preventing you from using this type of rest. However, because we shoot with fingers off the string, there will always be a lateral deflection component on the arrow at release. As a result, a rest that cradles the arrow firmly from below cannot properly manage this lateral deflection. (this is why a cushion plunger is critical when using a fingers off the string release) You will actually get to see what this all looks like at launch, because I have already filmed it for an upcoming segment. So, with regard to blade rests, you are are certainly welcome to try, but don’t be surprised if it becomes difficult managing lateral deflection as the way the blade supports the arrow can often get in the way of a smooth launch.
@@barebowbasics yup, compound blade rest.. thnx for the advise and the rationale.. not sure if my arrow setup has anything to do with it, but i do get tighter groupings with blade rests tho; prolly cause i have yet to shoot beyond 9m perhaps..? looking forward to your video to understand it better.. thnx again.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
It’s hard to say without seeing the setup and your shooting in person, but yes in general as you move further away from the target, the more important the tune becomes; group size can grow in non circular patterns if there are any contact or disturbance issues at the point of release. If your group is tight as you describe, then try moving back and see if the group size enlarges in a consistent way. (If there are any contact or tune issues, you may find the group enlarges significantly in an atypical way, such as an unusually wide left/right pattern)
Stumbled upon this on my youtube home page. Looks like a channel I just need! So, I have been doing Olympic recurve for sometime, although haven't necessarily gone competitive. but I'm getting interested in trying barebow. And I would like to know, is there anything else I need beside some barebow weight and a barebow finger tab to switch from Olympic recurve to barebow?
@@barebowbasics change in arrows? Interesting. I'd suspect the spine needed would be similar considering similar draw length and release technique. But I guess I was wrong lol. Looking forward to your next videos!
@@amrazing33 there is often a change in spine because the anchor for Barebow is completely different in most cases. This puts additional lateral stress on the arrow at launch.
@@amrazing33 this gets way deeper into the physics of the shot than a beginner level, but there are two facets to a Barebow release that are significantly different than a recurve release; first is the aforementioned usual change in anchor. This induces additional lateral deflection into the string upon release from the fingers/tab. Second is the ‘snapping’ you reference. (The string never actually leaves the nock) In that split second the string is loosed, there is slack in the string between where the hook was, and the nocking point of the arrow. (Typically because of a string walking crawl) As the string returns to full tension, based on length of crawl and tiller settings, the lateral forces of the loose can be amplified. These items combined have a dramatically different effect in dynamic arrow spine compared to what an Olympic recurve usually tunes for.
Super excited to learn and grow with this channel.
I'm trying to determine how to get started in barebow recurve, so your channel is perfectly timed. The biggest thing confusing me at the moment is how to find local competitions. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I look forward to reviewing your other videos.
New sub, looking forward to the next episode. I am a traditional archer, but enjoy watching barebow competitive shooting.
Hi Elton,
Great introductory segment. I am looking forward to future installments. Thank you for putting your channel up and helping out the Barebow community.
Be safe and Best to you and Brenda.
Rick Mansberger
Redmond Sports Group
🏹🎯🏹
Well done, Elton! (Ted Straub here under my Google alias). Excellent copy and great production values. Best of luck and I'll be following.
congratulations. nice work. eagerly waiting for your next videos. ❤
Thanks so much for starting this channel. We look forward to seeing your content. We met you in Harrisonburg this year at indoor nationals and are some of the people that didn't know what we didn't know. Sam (my 15 year old son) is working with Michael Holson now as well. Thanks for all you guys do for this awesome community!
Love the shirt! I have one too.
Nice work man!! Love it
Best of luck with this channel. Greetings from Bariloche, Argentina.
Congratulations and best of luck with your channel.
Hoping to learn about barebow as well. Subd. Thank you.
Sub'd thanks for producing this channel Elton!
I wish you the best. Peter from Belgium.
Fun channel.. nice job!
Struggling with. Bare bow
Bear hunter kodiac 45 lb. Pull
@@andrewromano-fw5vp why are you trying to use such a high draw weight? You are likely over bowed and that will greatly hamper your ability to learn good form and shot execution.
Awesome my friend 🏹❤️🙏
Great videos
Hi.. i've recently picked up barebow shooting for leisure and have a question that nobody seem to be able to advise me on - "Are 'blade-rests' allowed/legal for barebow in competitions..?" thnx.. 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
Hi, Larry.
When you refer to blade rests, are you talking about the kind used in compound divisions that cradle the arrow from below?
If so, there are no rules specifically preventing you from using this type of rest. However, because we shoot with fingers off the string, there will always be a lateral deflection component on the arrow at release. As a result, a rest that cradles the arrow firmly from below cannot properly manage this lateral deflection. (this is why a cushion plunger is critical when using a fingers off the string release) You will actually get to see what this all looks like at launch, because I have already filmed it for an upcoming segment.
So, with regard to blade rests, you are are certainly welcome to try, but don’t be surprised if it becomes difficult managing lateral deflection as the way the blade supports the arrow can often get in the way of a smooth launch.
@@barebowbasics yup, compound blade rest.. thnx for the advise and the rationale.. not sure if my arrow setup has anything to do with it, but i do get tighter groupings with blade rests tho; prolly cause i have yet to shoot beyond 9m perhaps..? looking forward to your video to understand it better.. thnx again.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
It’s hard to say without seeing the setup and your shooting in person, but yes in general as you move further away from the target, the more important the tune becomes; group size can grow in non circular patterns if there are any contact or disturbance issues at the point of release.
If your group is tight as you describe, then try moving back and see if the group size enlarges in a consistent way. (If there are any contact or tune issues, you may find the group enlarges significantly in an atypical way, such as an unusually wide left/right pattern)
Stumbled upon this on my youtube home page. Looks like a channel I just need!
So, I have been doing Olympic recurve for sometime, although haven't necessarily gone competitive. but I'm getting interested in trying barebow. And I would like to know, is there anything else I need beside some barebow weight and a barebow finger tab to switch from Olympic recurve to barebow?
You’ll definitely need those, plus possibly a change in arrows. These are items that will be covered in forthcoming segments, so please stay tuned!!
@@barebowbasics change in arrows? Interesting. I'd suspect the spine needed would be similar considering similar draw length and release technique. But I guess I was wrong lol. Looking forward to your next videos!
@@amrazing33 there is often a change in spine because the anchor for Barebow is completely different in most cases. This puts additional lateral stress on the arrow at launch.
@@barebowbasics ah, I see. I assume because of the "dry fire" period in between the finger release and the string snapping into the nock?
@@amrazing33 this gets way deeper into the physics of the shot than a beginner level, but there are two facets to a Barebow release that are significantly different than a recurve release; first is the aforementioned usual change in anchor. This induces additional lateral deflection into the string upon release from the fingers/tab. Second is the ‘snapping’ you reference. (The string never actually leaves the nock) In that split second the string is loosed, there is slack in the string between where the hook was, and the nocking point of the arrow. (Typically because of a string walking crawl) As the string returns to full tension, based on length of crawl and tiller settings, the lateral forces of the loose can be amplified. These items combined have a dramatically different effect in dynamic arrow spine compared to what an Olympic recurve usually tunes for.