So basically his defense is "we didn't get any money so that means it's not a scam." Just because you're bad at scamming doesn't mean you aren't a scammer.
@@letsg0b0wling1 what’re you talking about, trying to commit fraud isn’t a crime, cause what would they even call that? Something weird like conspiracy to commit fraud… nahhh
@@picklenik9658 right? Bruh it's not like they have an entire thing in law where you can get in trouble for attempting to commit a crime. I mean come on officer. How can you arrest me for attempted murder when I didn't even hurt anybody
its wild, like you can still be accused of running a scam if the scam blows up in your face. Like Jarvis said, i still "robbed a bank" even if the cops caught me walking out with a bag of money.
That's the part that made me so irrationally angry, the definitions that are completely off base. A scam doesn't need to be successful to be a scam, that just means you're bad at scamming people. And even in a charitable reading if Logan himself wasn't actually intending to scam people, if the people he hired did try to do that, he's still responsible. On top of that, he doesn't understand defamation. Defamation is not saying something bad about someone or saying something that harms their reputation, it's specifically saying something that harms someone's reputation that you *reasonably understood was a false claim*. The law is written to protect journalists because otherwise anyone who creates an expose would be at risk. If you make a negative claim and have good reason to make your claim (for example: you claim an influencer was responsible for a scam when he hired multiple people who have committed crimes to work on a failed project, and said influencer even later admitted those people are scammers) then it's not defamation.
"do you know how hard it is to photoshop two animals together?" im laughing so hard bc we literally learned to do this in middle school graphic design 😹😹😹
@@Thorax420 I had typing games in elementary I did at home but there was like one tiny class we did once and that was it. Middle school, we learned nothing about computers. I dunno how. I was in middle school in 2000, guess it wasn't important then 🤷♀️
"do you know how hard it is to blend two animals that exist into one that doesn't exist?" Sir I'd like to introduce you to all of mythology and also the furry fandom.
There was also an actual game that did that already. Impossible Creatures came out in 2003. And it was an RTS game that let you combine animals together. Dude was 20 years late to that idea and couldn't even provide PNGs for it properly.
it's so weird that he keeps doubling down on how much money he didn't make. it's basically akin to saying 'yes we TRIED to scam people, but we were also so bad at it that we lost money. this vindicates us morally.'
He's just doing what he can to save face for the time being... he knows he got caught and that people are collaborating their efforts to get due recompensation. His game now is to get as many people as possible to settle out of arbitration and to save face.
Logan said he doesn’t want to prop up Coffeezilla because of how he viewed the situation morally. But Logan, not even a month ago(?) said he morally didn’t agree with Andrew Tate, only to then prop him up.
The fact that these guys had to tippy-toe around saying *any* criticism in front/to Logan is really telling of his personality off screen. It's so sad that so many people believe in this garbage human :(
he very clearly surrounds himself with yes men if that first "clapback" video ever got out of the editing bay. not to mention all the way back to the forest scandal, he has never surrounded himself with anyone who would challenge his decisions.
Yeah. During Coffee’s series, I kept wondering if Jeff communicates anything to Logan. And Logan’s response makes it clear why Jeff would avoid telling him bad news. He’s just a big ego they all have to manage.
@annavictrix6306 Old comment, but yeah, every time Logan was like, "oh talk to me directly, message me not my manager" I'm like dude that's literally his job.
The fact that they wanted to describe being split between two fronts and chose GERMANY getting “attacked” in Africa and by the USSR - in WW2 - when the defining feature of the US’s role in WW2 was the fact that they had the Nazis menacing all of their debtors and Allies in Europe and Japan stabbing at them from the Pacific It’s mind-boggling. What kind of brain rot did this guy contract to miss the safe, obvious choice and go for the nazi angle instead? Alex Jones knows that you don’t want that comparison to be made. Absolutely aghast at how crazy that was
@@sideways5153 Even Logan def knew it was a bad thing to say, that’s why they did that whole “you’re making a face” thing right after. Imagine your friend defending you and saying “you’re basically Germany in WW2”, so crazy🙈
Also, not to nitpick, "Africa" was not one of Germany's fronts (the east front and west front). He correctly identified that the SSRs were the eastern front, but the western front was predominantly western europe. The targets in Africa, from a nazi perspective, were mostly colonial outposts from the post-millennium "spheres of influence" era, which I would argue made them more "european" conflicts than African conflicts. That said, as is always the case in colonialism, a lot of Africans wound up paying the price at the end and that's something that should never be devalued. But the theater in Africa was mainly from a perspective of supply chain and resource-based attrition tactics against the allies in western europe.
He didn’t even say “two fronts” he said “two wrong battle” so he also managed to defend Germany and act like they were in the right during WW2 which is insane
So I recently learned the courts generally go with the stricter state's laws so in theory coffee could get in trouble. HOWEVER, that only applies if one of the party members had a reasonable expectation of privacy. Getting on a call with an investigative journalist with no NDA erases that expectation
Yeah, also I don’t think a third party can go to court for you? Like Logan can’t do shit because Coffee interviewed other people, unless he manages to get those people in on the lawsuit
Exactly, yeah. Jeff, a celebrity manager, would have a hard time proving a convo with a UA-camr about his client was a totally private convo between two private individuals.
I love how he said “we actually lost money trying to make things right” by paying your employees my guy?????? The literal bare minimum of running a business???
I hate the misappropriation of calling Logan a “creative” bc he wants to have outlandish ideas and pass them along to the poor suckers who gotta make it. Brainstorming is great. But being a “creative” involves actually creating something. The devs and the artists are the creatives here, Logan just got inspired by one of those a Hatch Dragon Farm ads. Also, 7 months is not a long time to work on something! I have a fuckin yugioh painting I’ve been working on for 4months! Granted i have a full time job but still!
And also his ideas are really bland and lacking imagination. Like, he thinks the concept of hybridizing animals is MINDBLOWING, revolutionary even, and it's just like... Not? Like at all?? It's literally the most basic concept in creature design and he didn't even do it in an interesting way. He's barely an idea guy and DEFINITELY not a creative
Yeah I don’t care how many called you that as a kid, most people would want to scrub that off as fast as possible??? It’s pretty fitting, though, he is a shitty person after all…
Robert tries to rob a bank, but gets arrested for transpassing instead. He didn't rob the bank. He tried, so he gets the participation reward of the title robber. That's why his nickname is Robert.
2 party consent often relies on reasonable assumption of privacy. When a citizen journalist calls you for comment on your client’s business, it’s hard to prove you thought it would be totally private.
"Do you know how hard it is to merge 2 animals?" Give me 5 minutes and my laptop. I don't even need my drawing tablet for this assignment. Hell, give me a few hours and I'll have half passable 3d model. No rigging tho. I don't mess with that.
Logan Paul, again not knowing how defamation works by claiming that Coffeezilla defamed him by saying that Cryptozoo had been abandoned when Logan Paul's team was supposedly still working on it, just completely secretly and unwilling to give even a general statement to that effect. That literally *hurts* his defamation case, because he's openly admitting that Coffeezilla couldn't have found out the "actual truth" about the project and thus his conclusions are more likely based in what he actually believes to be true.
I dont know heaps about it but it's sounds like a pretty weak case regardless. Like, saying that he abandoned a project isn't rly defamation, is it? The claims of Logan being a scam-artist (of he weren't one) would be defamation more, right?
"The most painful thing in the world" Me: diagnosed with terminal cancer at 34 but attempting more rounds of chemotherapy and radiation just to give my 15 yr old child more time with me. Logan Paul in Qatar spa during the world cup: 💔☠️⚰️
Its so funny to hear about how they didn't make money, and had no intention to, but never addressed the group chat they had. Which clearly outlined rules among each other to profit from investors by manipulating the market. He just didn't make any money because he was beat to the punch by the other scammers. The blissful ignorance is crazy
Logan really tried treating this like 2015 creator beef. It was wild to watch. Tactics that would have hit 10 years ago just seemed cringe and obvious now.
The fact that Logan needed it explained to him that, even if he didn’t intend to scam anyone, he is still responsible for people losing millions of dollars is very telling. I don’t care if he’s a scammer. He should still be trying to make right all the hurt this project caused
Dude, Logan's talking about the 10 million dollar studio is hilarious. I love how even Mike is like "I think hes being sarcastic, it's a joke" and even Logan is like "Ehhh I don't know man" lol
Which one is it, logan? Was it never a scam and coffee is just lying and everyone's attacking you unfairly Or were you completely unaware about the scammers on the team? Pick an argument
Its a good disclaimer to have, but I don’t really care that he has since changed his response. We got to see his authentic first attempt at a response, its sure better to change your tune later but we still all saw the first response was to deflect, lie, and threaten.
He didn't change his response because he changed as a person, he changed his response because he wants to LOOK like a better person, and realised everyone was against him. It's hard to be sympathetic to a serial liar.
I love how he brought Jeff on to show how coffee didn’t substantiate his evidence when the first video ended with coffee calling Jeff who just threatened him
Jeff leaving and being fully gone directly after finding out finding out Mike is a Nazi sympathizer is my favorite part. Jeff makes the first good decision he’s made in years
Mike clearly asking why Logan blocked coffee on twitter and Logan continues speaking over him 🤣🤦♀️ I hope you guys have seen the new animation of Logan and Mike by meat canyon. It's hilarious!
How is that game "coming in 2023/2024"? You just collect images of eggs and animals and it's still somehow taking another 1-2 years??? It's so plainly a scam that was never a real project.
I don't know the background, but are they saying they aren't scammers simply because their scam didn't work? "We can't be scammers. We're bad at it" Attempted murderers, take note.
I feel like those guys low key are disagreeing with everything Logan says XD but sucking up anyway since he pays them. And hate each other? Lol it’s giving middle school boy vibes where they say the worst insult every and then say it’s a joke.
Yeah they are tiptoing around his feelings so hard to try and get him to a "come to Jesus" moment, but him being their boss makes the dynamic impossible to truly get anywhere
Logan taking his obvious dinkdoink-swinging around down bc it didn’t work and nobody’s intimidated by his lawsuit threat... god that’s funny. Like nobody believed you dude. We are adults here
Ah yes, the classic white guy podcast. You got the main character who is factually wrong in most things they say, the main character's yesman who doesn't have a personality of their own, and the one who chaperones the other two to give the recording a semblance of plot along with the optional dude there to warm the empty 4th seat, but not talk.
I love how UA-cam made it so you couldn't see dislikes anymore. Yet every time I see a video like this where they're watching another video, or a video that has screenshots of youtube, everyone's used a plugin to add it back in anyway. Myself included.
I haven't seen anyone say this specifically, but maybe I missed it - it doesn't matter if Texas and California are one party or two party consent states, Coffee very clearly said, "I'm calling for comment on these allegations," which any reasonable person would understand to mean that the conversation is not private, and can be recorded. He's a journalist! That's what they do!
"Do you know how hard it is to merge animals that do exist into an animal that doesn't exist?" What? You mean like all the unique fictional monsters and creatures in entertainment media? Yeah it's incredibly hard I'm sure lol
Imagine trying to say your "creative" project totally for sure isn't just a lazy money grab only to then complain about how hard it is to be even slightly creative LOL
I'd like to introduce him to the concept of the jackalope, the cockatrice, the capricorn, and the hippogriff. Not to mention all of the human animal hybrids, like mermaids, harpies, and sirens.
Jarvis your hair is incredible and you’ve inspired me to let mine fro out. Of course mine is like a puffy whiteboy fro but we’re all doing our best out here
If you've had short hair for a while and don’t condition, remember to buy a conditioner! You could also scrunch some gel in wet hair after washing to help define the curls ❤ If you've been doing these things, rock on, but if you haven’t, it will make your curls really nice!
The one guy “please im just reading the questions bro dont get mad at me” saying that people dont care about logans rich feelings when they are living paycheck to paycheck and he lost them money, then asking what logans feelings are on that. That whole question lead up 💀
literally this dude is so wack im crying. Hes one of those dudes who doesnt listen to what people say at all and just goes off and cries "Im being blamed for everything and I'm suing" when that was LITERALLY never said LMAO coffee really only accused the dude of being stupid!
bruh how does someone this unlikable have this many scandals n still have a career? like he's rich enough, can he just disappear to puerto rico so i don't have to hear about logan paul drama in 2023 😭
Please don't stick Puerto Rico with these brothers! They've already caused havoc there driving on the beaches and potentially damaging sea turtle nests. PR doesn't want them.
I can't with the fact that they apparently edited this podcast but didn't cut out Logan not getting the $10 million studio joke. He's so out of touch, I'm dying.
I honestly think Logan keeps mentioning the money because that and "they're still coming!" might be the only defenses he has left. I also found Logan trying to frame Coffee as a manipulative storyteller super telling, because, if I watched some of these not knowing anything about the situation or Logan as a person, I'd probably just believe him. He comes off as that sincere despite it all.
@@JasminMiettunen Yeah I'd believe that honestly. Both the brothers come off as very naive in the worst ways. Like they genuinely don't educate themselves enough to the point of being jerks.
One of the big reasons that Logan took the video down, is the Zach thing was expunged information. Legally, Logan wasn't allowed to share it publicly. "Didn't you do any background checks Stephen?" Yes Logan, and this wasn't available because it was EXPUNGED. It was no longer relevant, and it was also incredibly inaccurate with how you shared it. Another youtuber actually messaged Zach and got more of the story, and it was not a liquor store robbery, and it was over 20 years ago. Court would literally tear Logan apart for that alone.
Eddy Burback said it best in Jacksfilms' Apology Video Quiz, when he joked (as Logan), "People didn't like it last time when I was sad, so this time I'll try getting angry."
Avatar the last airbender has a whole system based on merging animals together and while not being the central part of the show at all they look amazing
On the one hand logan deleted the video.... on the other hes on twitter saying andrew tate ass "THE MATRIX IS AFTER ME" shit so like, no he hasnt learned his lesson, he just realized the video made him look stupid and is gonna go another route to claim he wasnt scamming people after being caught scamming people multiple times
i looked at the cryptozoo designs and holy shit. genuinely so ugly. and a DECENT amount of them look like overused/copied/ripoff designs that have been floating around the internet for ages (the elephant with butterfly ears, etc, stuff that everyone's already photoshopped to hell and back and has no originality to it) and it's so bad. imagine spending like 400 bucks on a fugly jpeg of a poorly shopped slothllama.
This is sooo funny and the art part got me. Why wouldn’t they make cartoon looking animals? Why did they make them realistic? How would that ever look ok. They should of realized that ahead of time 😂 but Logan Paul is just saying “do you know how hard it is to make that look good” like duh?
every game dev on earth will laugh at the idea that 7 months is a long time to work on a game, especially since we know he was certainly not doing it full time, hell id be shocked if it was in the top 5 things he prioritised
all i could think whenever logan talked was just 'wow, someone bought a thesaurus'. He keeps using the biggest words he can think of as if it makes his point valid
I love that Logan is clearly trying to get Coffeezilla on Impaulsive to surround him with his own people and hopefully intimidate him. It seems to me that Logan is trying to unbalance Coffeezilla so that he doesn't have to try and stand up to scrutiny.
The last minutes, the guy is like "You're like Germany fighting a war on two fronts" and I assumed he made the face because he's comparing this other guy to Nazi Germany? lmao
i know this is late im sick forgive me :)
i love u jarvis get well soon🐕💨
Did you know about the Pearl (Pig) fiasco?
I will never forgive you 😭 😠
I hope you feel better
Hope you're feeling more manageable soon and having the best days possible for you
Does this count as clearly in the wrong person has an attitude?
Every time
Yes, AND cartoon super villain imo
Absolutely
Lmao
Camera moved an inch
is that a time skip?
So basically his defense is "we didn't get any money so that means it's not a scam." Just because you're bad at scamming doesn't mean you aren't a scammer.
Exactly! The law doesn't care if you were successful at defrauding the people only that you were trying to defraud the people
@@letsg0b0wling1 what’re you talking about, trying to commit fraud isn’t a crime, cause what would they even call that? Something weird like conspiracy to commit fraud… nahhh
It's basically Sideshow Bob going "Attempted murder!? Is there a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?"
@@picklenik9658 lmao. Conspiracy to commit fraud? Sounds like some nerd shit
@@picklenik9658 right? Bruh it's not like they have an entire thing in law where you can get in trouble for attempting to commit a crime. I mean come on officer. How can you arrest me for attempted murder when I didn't even hurt anybody
Fun fact: the actual definition of scam does not state that you make money
its wild, like you can still be accused of running a scam if the scam blows up in your face. Like Jarvis said, i still "robbed a bank" even if the cops caught me walking out with a bag of money.
That's the part that made me so irrationally angry, the definitions that are completely off base. A scam doesn't need to be successful to be a scam, that just means you're bad at scamming people. And even in a charitable reading if Logan himself wasn't actually intending to scam people, if the people he hired did try to do that, he's still responsible. On top of that, he doesn't understand defamation. Defamation is not saying something bad about someone or saying something that harms their reputation, it's specifically saying something that harms someone's reputation that you *reasonably understood was a false claim*. The law is written to protect journalists because otherwise anyone who creates an expose would be at risk. If you make a negative claim and have good reason to make your claim (for example: you claim an influencer was responsible for a scam when he hired multiple people who have committed crimes to work on a failed project, and said influencer even later admitted those people are scammers) then it's not defamation.
I think I've watched enough Ed Edd and Eddy to understand that.
RIGHTTT it's so weird how his definition is that if he doesn't make any money he's basically in the right
yeah he’s scamming people and shit at it to boot
"do you know how hard it is to photoshop two animals together?" im laughing so hard bc we literally learned to do this in middle school graphic design 😹😹😹
Y'all take graphic design in middle school now? I only got to learn excel and typing my senior year 😑
@@AshChiCupcak you didnt learn to TYPE until senior year??? i had typing in elementary 😭
@@Thorax420 I had typing games in elementary I did at home but there was like one tiny class we did once and that was it. Middle school, we learned nothing about computers. I dunno how. I was in middle school in 2000, guess it wasn't important then 🤷♀️
Neopets did it decades ago
We can even do this in MS Paint and that application is severely limiting 😂
"do you know how hard it is to blend two animals that exist into one that doesn't exist?" Sir I'd like to introduce you to all of mythology and also the furry fandom.
Has the guy never watched avatar the last air bender?
U could always full metal alchemist it
@@LostStarzOfTheSky *cries in Nina*
There was also an actual game that did that already. Impossible Creatures came out in 2003. And it was an RTS game that let you combine animals together. Dude was 20 years late to that idea and couldn't even provide PNGs for it properly.
There is also the game called dragon ball fusions where you can fuse every single character from the series and even do like 5 way fusion
combining two animals in photoshop was one of the first assignments i had in my photography class my freshman year of high school
Looks like you are on your way to making a high tier crypto Sca- i mean project.
@@lvlHive not a project, a game 😉
he really stole ur teachers idea
it's so weird that he keeps doubling down on how much money he didn't make. it's basically akin to saying 'yes we TRIED to scam people, but we were also so bad at it that we lost money. this vindicates us morally.'
yeah as if intent is irrelevant and clears him
He's just doing what he can to save face for the time being... he knows he got caught and that people are collaborating their efforts to get due recompensation. His game now is to get as many people as possible to settle out of arbitration and to save face.
Logan said he doesn’t want to prop up Coffeezilla because of how he viewed the situation morally. But Logan, not even a month ago(?) said he morally didn’t agree with Andrew Tate, only to then prop him up.
Actions speak louder than words
Logan loves money more then integrity. Luckily he happens to also be stupid.
I mean propping up a human trafficker is the only way to make himself seem better by comparison
The fact that these guys had to tippy-toe around saying *any* criticism in front/to Logan is really telling of his personality off screen. It's so sad that so many people believe in this garbage human :(
he very clearly surrounds himself with yes men if that first "clapback" video ever got out of the editing bay. not to mention all the way back to the forest scandal, he has never surrounded himself with anyone who would challenge his decisions.
Fr… I knew he wouldn’t change even tho everyone was like “noooo he’s changed tho 🥺👉👈”
Yeah. During Coffee’s series, I kept wondering if Jeff communicates anything to Logan. And Logan’s response makes it clear why Jeff would avoid telling him bad news. He’s just a big ego they all have to manage.
@annavictrix6306 Old comment, but yeah, every time Logan was like, "oh talk to me directly, message me not my manager" I'm like dude that's literally his job.
Never make yourself Germany in a war analogy
The fact that they wanted to describe being split between two fronts and chose GERMANY getting “attacked” in Africa and by the USSR - in WW2 - when the defining feature of the US’s role in WW2 was the fact that they had the Nazis menacing all of their debtors and Allies in Europe and Japan stabbing at them from the Pacific
It’s mind-boggling. What kind of brain rot did this guy contract to miss the safe, obvious choice and go for the nazi angle instead? Alex Jones knows that you don’t want that comparison to be made.
Absolutely aghast at how crazy that was
@@sideways5153 Even Logan def knew it was a bad thing to say, that’s why they did that whole “you’re making a face” thing right after. Imagine your friend defending you and saying “you’re basically Germany in WW2”, so crazy🙈
Right wtf kind of analogy was that to “defend” someone … that’s prolly why Jeff was looking at him like what?!?
He also said “two wrong battle” which also made it seem like he was defending Germany’s actions and is supportive of their actions during WW2
Also, not to nitpick, "Africa" was not one of Germany's fronts (the east front and west front). He correctly identified that the SSRs were the eastern front, but the western front was predominantly western europe. The targets in Africa, from a nazi perspective, were mostly colonial outposts from the post-millennium "spheres of influence" era, which I would argue made them more "european" conflicts than African conflicts. That said, as is always the case in colonialism, a lot of Africans wound up paying the price at the end and that's something that should never be devalued. But the theater in Africa was mainly from a perspective of supply chain and resource-based attrition tactics against the allies in western europe.
He really tried the "if we're scammers, how come when we tried to scam but didn't make any money? Hmm???" angle
“you’re like Germany in a World War, fighting on two fronts. Jeff, why are you looking at me like I said something bad?”
i swear it felt like a bit on a sitcom😂
He didn’t even say “two fronts” he said “two wrong battle” so he also managed to defend Germany and act like they were in the right during WW2 which is insane
So I recently learned the courts generally go with the stricter state's laws so in theory coffee could get in trouble. HOWEVER, that only applies if one of the party members had a reasonable expectation of privacy. Getting on a call with an investigative journalist with no NDA erases that expectation
Also you would think a manager for a celebrity would know to say something like "off the record"
Yeah, also I don’t think a third party can go to court for you? Like Logan can’t do shit because Coffee interviewed other people, unless he manages to get those people in on the lawsuit
Exactly, yeah. Jeff, a celebrity manager, would have a hard time proving a convo with a UA-camr about his client was a totally private convo between two private individuals.
@@RustyClumps and also! Jeff probably has no intention to sew if he has a single lawyer with a brain cell telling him: nono no discovery is a thing
Amd Texas is a one party consent state so it's perfectly legal anyways
I love how he said “we actually lost money trying to make things right” by paying your employees my guy?????? The literal bare minimum of running a business???
I hate the misappropriation of calling Logan a “creative” bc he wants to have outlandish ideas and pass them along to the poor suckers who gotta make it. Brainstorming is great. But being a “creative” involves actually creating something. The devs and the artists are the creatives here, Logan just got inspired by one of those a Hatch Dragon Farm ads. Also, 7 months is not a long time to work on something! I have a fuckin yugioh painting I’ve been working on for 4months! Granted i have a full time job but still!
And also his ideas are really bland and lacking imagination. Like, he thinks the concept of hybridizing animals is MINDBLOWING, revolutionary even, and it's just like... Not? Like at all?? It's literally the most basic concept in creature design and he didn't even do it in an interesting way. He's barely an idea guy and DEFINITELY not a creative
''Logs'' is probably one of the last words I'd want as a nickname.
Yeah I don’t care how many called you that as a kid, most people would want to scrub that off as fast as possible??? It’s pretty fitting, though, he is a shitty person after all…
It’s on par with capzilla, it sounds like someone you hate calling you that to be mean, not a nickname
sounds like if you took a fat shit somewhere and your friends never let you live it down
You know, like a commonly used unit of poop.
It’s so annoying! “A scam didn’t take place.” YEs it did!! Just because you claim you weren’t involved doesn’t mean it didn’t happen!!
He was scammed before he could scam everyone else. A scamception.
It’s so surreal seeing Logan talk about responsibility and consequences while thinking he’s immune from responsibility and consequences.
**Common misconception**... if you rob a bank and get arrested before getting the money.. you didn't actually rob a bank...
Robert tries to rob a bank, but gets arrested for transpassing instead. He didn't rob the bank. He tried, so he gets the participation reward of the title robber. That's why his nickname is Robert.
If you hire criminals and orchestrate a bank robbery but fail, you can't get in trouble bc you hired criminals and you didn't get any money 🤷♀️
2 party consent often relies on reasonable assumption of privacy. When a citizen journalist calls you for comment on your client’s business, it’s hard to prove you thought it would be totally private.
Comparing Logan to Germany in his little battle is an interesting way of displaying him
This is like the third downfall of his career in half a decade
Third times the charm 🤞
3 is an unlucky number. inshallah.
@@biggestastiest hey, fourth might put him in that forest again.
"Do you know how hard it is to merge 2 animals?" Give me 5 minutes and my laptop. I don't even need my drawing tablet for this assignment. Hell, give me a few hours and I'll have half passable 3d model. No rigging tho. I don't mess with that.
Its an nft u can just use paint
i use paint tool sai from like 15 years ago and i can still do it
Logan Paul, again not knowing how defamation works by claiming that Coffeezilla defamed him by saying that Cryptozoo had been abandoned when Logan Paul's team was supposedly still working on it, just completely secretly and unwilling to give even a general statement to that effect. That literally *hurts* his defamation case, because he's openly admitting that Coffeezilla couldn't have found out the "actual truth" about the project and thus his conclusions are more likely based in what he actually believes to be true.
I dont know heaps about it but it's sounds like a pretty weak case regardless. Like, saying that he abandoned a project isn't rly defamation, is it? The claims of Logan being a scam-artist (of he weren't one) would be defamation more, right?
The text messages among his team discussing the rules for secretly buying up the first tokens and how to sell them off kills his whole good guy act.
"The most painful thing in the world"
Me: diagnosed with terminal cancer at 34 but attempting more rounds of chemotherapy and radiation just to give my 15 yr old child more time with me.
Logan Paul in Qatar spa during the world cup: 💔☠️⚰️
Its so funny to hear about how they didn't make money, and had no intention to, but never addressed the group chat they had. Which clearly outlined rules among each other to profit from investors by manipulating the market. He just didn't make any money because he was beat to the punch by the other scammers. The blissful ignorance is crazy
The Joker's intro in The Dark Knight basically. A couple of the scammers cut the others out of the heist.
Logan really tried treating this like 2015 creator beef. It was wild to watch. Tactics that would have hit 10 years ago just seemed cringe and obvious now.
The fact that Logan needed it explained to him that, even if he didn’t intend to scam anyone, he is still responsible for people losing millions of dollars is very telling. I don’t care if he’s a scammer. He should still be trying to make right all the hurt this project caused
Dude, Logan's talking about the 10 million dollar studio is hilarious. I love how even Mike is like "I think hes being sarcastic, it's a joke" and even Logan is like "Ehhh I don't know man" lol
I think Mike died a little inside while trying to explain the joke to Logan
“Viral hybrid offspring” sounds like a new COVID variant.
Ending his entire stupid argument with "buy a sline kit" 😂 TOO TRUE
Which one is it, logan? Was it never a scam and coffee is just lying and everyone's attacking you unfairly Or were you completely unaware about the scammers on the team? Pick an argument
Its a good disclaimer to have, but I don’t really care that he has since changed his response. We got to see his authentic first attempt at a response, its sure better to change your tune later but we still all saw the first response was to deflect, lie, and threaten.
He didn't change his response because he changed as a person, he changed his response because he wants to LOOK like a better person, and realised everyone was against him. It's hard to be sympathetic to a serial liar.
I love how he brought Jeff on to show how coffee didn’t substantiate his evidence when the first video ended with coffee calling Jeff who just threatened him
Jordan saying “his feefees are more hurt” is the most just… SCATHING thing I’ve heard in my short life
“Ideated” is a now a word that will haunt me for decades
A little sad you guys didn’t go into Logan getting a letter from a fan then proceed to try his hardest to cry
Logan's co-hot literally equated him to Nazi Germany at the end💀
Jeff leaving and being fully gone directly after finding out finding out Mike is a Nazi sympathizer is my favorite part. Jeff makes the first good decision he’s made in years
did he not think that putting his name on something would result in him being seen responsible for whatever that thing did?
Mike clearly asking why Logan blocked coffee on twitter and Logan continues speaking over him 🤣🤦♀️
I hope you guys have seen the new animation of Logan and Mike by meat canyon. It's hilarious!
How is that game "coming in 2023/2024"? You just collect images of eggs and animals and it's still somehow taking another 1-2 years??? It's so plainly a scam that was never a real project.
I don't know the background, but are they saying they aren't scammers simply because their scam didn't work?
"We can't be scammers. We're bad at it"
Attempted murderers, take note.
Pretty much!
It’s therapeutic watching Jarvis do this to Paul
the absolute hilarity of going to your friend who presumably pays your bills like, "Logan, you know who you're exactly like? Germany in WWII."
Reminds me of 0079 Gundam somehow
This man has OBVIOUSLY never played Spore
His whole justification here falls apart when you know this isnt his first crypto scam he was a part of
"MonkaS i'll behead you" (7:30) made me spit water out all over myself, wish i had caught this live
"Blockchain technology, something that's brand new...?"
The Dark Knight Rises is newer than blockchain technology.
I feel like those guys low key are disagreeing with everything Logan says XD but sucking up anyway since he pays them. And hate each other? Lol it’s giving middle school boy vibes where they say the worst insult every and then say it’s a joke.
Yeah they are tiptoing around his feelings so hard to try and get him to a "come to Jesus" moment, but him being their boss makes the dynamic impossible to truly get anywhere
i just can't believe one single word that comes out of logan's mouth, its incredible
“But your honor, I didn’t succeed in robbing the bank so it doesn’t count ❤”
Your faces when he mentioned J*hnny D*pp matched mine. Like whuut?! That should be the last person you bring up right now lmao
Logan taking his obvious dinkdoink-swinging around down bc it didn’t work and nobody’s intimidated by his lawsuit threat... god that’s funny. Like nobody believed you dude. We are adults here
His name is STEVEN
B U S T E D
“I’m mad STEVEN got money when what I wanted was to do the financial scam I DID NOT GET MANY MONEY” bruh
“We should just ban crime did you ever think abt that” - Jordan Adika, world leader
“It was so weird when he reached out to me for contact in multiple ways after I yelled at him to reach out for contact”
“He’s such a talented investigator except exclusively when he calls me out and everyone believes me right”
Ah yes, the classic white guy podcast. You got the main character who is factually wrong in most things they say, the main character's yesman who doesn't have a personality of their own, and the one who chaperones the other two to give the recording a semblance of plot along with the optional dude there to warm the empty 4th seat, but not talk.
I just think that Logan’s million dollar idea was “you know the hybrid animals from avatar? Let’s make that but infinitely shittier”
😂
I love how UA-cam made it so you couldn't see dislikes anymore. Yet every time I see a video like this where they're watching another video, or a video that has screenshots of youtube, everyone's used a plugin to add it back in anyway. Myself included.
Is it possible to do it on mobile?
I haven't seen anyone say this specifically, but maybe I missed it - it doesn't matter if Texas and California are one party or two party consent states, Coffee very clearly said, "I'm calling for comment on these allegations," which any reasonable person would understand to mean that the conversation is not private, and can be recorded. He's a journalist! That's what they do!
I love that his friend compares him to Germany fighting a two front war in WWI. Germany, notoriously in the right and being wrongfully attacked… /s
Imagine going 'hey we're just like n@zi Germany!' like its a positive thing and then being surprised when people are cringing.
"Do you know how hard it is to merge animals that do exist into an animal that doesn't exist?"
What? You mean like all the unique fictional monsters and creatures in entertainment media? Yeah it's incredibly hard I'm sure lol
The Jackel is an easy one, like this is a entry level scam that salespeople would sell in the old west.
Imagine trying to say your "creative" project totally for sure isn't just a lazy money grab only to then complain about how hard it is to be even slightly creative LOL
I'd like to introduce him to the concept of the jackalope, the cockatrice, the capricorn, and the hippogriff. Not to mention all of the human animal hybrids, like mermaids, harpies, and sirens.
@@LakinMae5 I believe you’re thinking of the jackalope lol. A jackal is a very real coyote-like animal.
@@alexakelley2353 yes, having very similar names often gets me confused, haha!
The 10 million dollar studio thing was hilarious fr
Jordan latching onto that "hounding Jeff" line is killing me
Jarvis your hair is incredible and you’ve inspired me to let mine fro out. Of course mine is like a puffy whiteboy fro but we’re all doing our best out here
this is so wholesome
You go Kevin ❤ be proud of your look! ❤❤
All FROS are great! An afro, a jew-fro or a white boy fro. Rock it on Kevin, you're a star
If you've had short hair for a while and don’t condition, remember to buy a conditioner! You could also scrunch some gel in wet hair after washing to help define the curls ❤ If you've been doing these things, rock on, but if you haven’t, it will make your curls really nice!
It legit makes me mad that he’s so good at pro wrestling
The one guy “please im just reading the questions bro dont get mad at me” saying that people dont care about logans rich feelings when they are living paycheck to paycheck and he lost them money, then asking what logans feelings are on that. That whole question lead up 💀
When ur trying to ask ur own questions through the veneer of it being someone else asking it
“When we were in the spa in Qatar” 💀💀💀
"We wanted this to be the next pokemon, so we hired a well known, at the very least, shady person from the pokemon card community"
literally this dude is so wack im crying. Hes one of those dudes who doesnt listen to what people say at all and just goes off and cries "Im being blamed for everything and I'm suing" when that was LITERALLY never said LMAO coffee really only accused the dude of being stupid!
bruh how does someone this unlikable have this many scandals n still have a career? like he's rich enough, can he just disappear to puerto rico so i don't have to hear about logan paul drama in 2023 😭
Why would you push him on poor Puerto Rico? The kind people there don't deserve to be subjected to Logan Paul's existence.... No one does...
@@BiroLaertes send him to the bermuda triangle😭
Please don't stick Puerto Rico with these brothers! They've already caused havoc there driving on the beaches and potentially damaging sea turtle nests. PR doesn't want them.
@@Caldella shit y'all are right, he should go back to ohio
cause he made prime with ksi to 'make up'. i love ksi i think he's amazing but man i hate logan sm
I can't with the fact that they apparently edited this podcast but didn't cut out Logan not getting the $10 million studio joke. He's so out of touch, I'm dying.
Wait he thinks Coffeezilla was serious about the studio bit? Jesus Christ Logan needs to stop boxing.
That guy just going "i think it was a joke" is not paid enough
Thus is the funniest shit in a long time 😭 I cannot wait till coffe drops his video 😩
I absolutely love the likes vs. dislikes. I really hope this makes an impact that hurts his business & future scams.
I honestly think Logan keeps mentioning the money because that and "they're still coming!" might be the only defenses he has left. I also found Logan trying to frame Coffee as a manipulative storyteller super telling, because, if I watched some of these not knowing anything about the situation or Logan as a person, I'd probably just believe him. He comes off as that sincere despite it all.
I think he actually might believe his own bullshit, which is why it comes off as sincere? Like he still doesn’t get it was a scam?
@@JasminMiettunen Yeah I'd believe that honestly. Both the brothers come off as very naive in the worst ways. Like they genuinely don't educate themselves enough to the point of being jerks.
One of the big reasons that Logan took the video down, is the Zach thing was expunged information. Legally, Logan wasn't allowed to share it publicly. "Didn't you do any background checks Stephen?" Yes Logan, and this wasn't available because it was EXPUNGED. It was no longer relevant, and it was also incredibly inaccurate with how you shared it. Another youtuber actually messaged Zach and got more of the story, and it was not a liquor store robbery, and it was over 20 years ago. Court would literally tear Logan apart for that alone.
"Am I a scammer? I asked a scammer their opinion!"
19:30 just zoom into Logs' head and it's that clip of milk spilling from Spongebob
Eddy Burback said it best in Jacksfilms' Apology Video Quiz, when he joked (as Logan), "People didn't like it last time when I was sad, so this time I'll try getting angry."
I'm sorry, HOW is Impaulsive unmonetized as it CLEARLY has a product Paul sells front and center displayed on that coffee table?
Avatar the last airbender has a whole system based on merging animals together and while not being the central part of the show at all they look amazing
I love the actual realzoo game. Girurtle is the best 🦒+🐢
someone should create a logan paul bingo card
On the one hand logan deleted the video.... on the other hes on twitter saying andrew tate ass "THE MATRIX IS AFTER ME" shit so like, no he hasnt learned his lesson, he just realized the video made him look stupid and is gonna go another route to claim he wasnt scamming people after being caught scamming people multiple times
i looked at the cryptozoo designs and holy shit. genuinely so ugly. and a DECENT amount of them look like overused/copied/ripoff designs that have been floating around the internet for ages (the elephant with butterfly ears, etc, stuff that everyone's already photoshopped to hell and back and has no originality to it) and it's so bad. imagine spending like 400 bucks on a fugly jpeg of a poorly shopped slothllama.
Trying to decide if I’m more irritated by Logan Paul speaking or my dying smoke alarm beeping incessantly
This is sooo funny and the art part got me. Why wouldn’t they make cartoon looking animals? Why did they make them realistic? How would that ever look ok. They should of realized that ahead of time 😂 but Logan Paul is just saying “do you know how hard it is to make that look good” like duh?
Logan is literally shooting the messenger
Logan's podcast: How To Be A Narcissist
Hard to believe he could win a defamation lawsuit. Nothing can hurt your reputation more than the japanese forest video
every game dev on earth will laugh at the idea that 7 months is a long time to work on a game, especially since we know he was certainly not doing it full time, hell id be shocked if it was in the top 5 things he prioritised
Oh you're a villain alright, just not a super one.
all i could think whenever logan talked was just 'wow, someone bought a thesaurus'. He keeps using the biggest words he can think of as if it makes his point valid
17:58 I really thought he was about to channel the Dhar Man voice
Jordan with the Yikes! merch!
Wait you're telling me this is edited, but they didn't edit out the Germany moment. That's wild.
I love that Logan is clearly trying to get Coffeezilla on Impaulsive to surround him with his own people and hopefully intimidate him. It seems to me that Logan is trying to unbalance Coffeezilla so that he doesn't have to try and stand up to scrutiny.
The last minutes, the guy is like "You're like Germany fighting a war on two fronts" and I assumed he made the face because he's comparing this other guy to Nazi Germany? lmao
30:55 Jordan looking up and going “who the fuck is that?” 🤣