Keep in mind folks this is standard protocol for dealers to do this. If the part comes with the tank, they must replace it as such. Dealers dont repair broken items, they replace it. This is because Honda Corp offers a standard warranty to the consumer on replaced parts and labor, The dealer wont take a risk on repairing an item since its not something they can warranty effectively. This is also why rodent damage can total out a car, as the whole harness would get replaced, rather than repaired.
I remember back in the day when dealers would actually do repairs like that. Back when there were more true gearheads running service departments. Then came the "services advisors" (sales position), bean counters and liability lawyers.
It's not "needlessly." Replacing the tank with the hose is the proper repair and is how people would expect the dealership to repair a vehicle. They are supposed to bring it back to original. Ivan's repair is fine...nothing wrong with it... but dealer techs aren't allowed to repair that way.
@@johnaclark1 Poor dealerships, how else are they going make money to cover the cost of the waiting room. You're not getting donuts and coffee at SMA,LLC.
Your customer should have been absolutely thrilled with your diagnostics, repair, research and advice on this one, Ivan! You probably saved them 2 grand or more and got the car fixed! This is a good reminder how important a TSB search can be. Not only are they sources of important info, they often provide an opportunity to point the customer to a no cost repair at the dealership! Really good stuff! I liked that you pulled out the topscan and gave it a go. It certainly has its place. I think it's a great diy scanner or a (very compact!) scanner to have on a road trip when you don't have a lot of equipment with you. Most people who are using a topscan won't have a smoke machine, for example, at least not with them... I always look forward to your videos with great anticipation, thanks very much!
Obviously this customer made the right choice bringing their car to you. Fixed the evap leak at a fraction of the dealer's quote and then sent them in the right direction to resolve the A/C issue. Awesome job!
I've been using topscan pro since January. I only had to use a traditional scan tool twice since then. It's used every single day. Super convenient and also has immo capabilities. I have done Ram, Honda, and Ford keys without any problems. Thanks Ivan, it was your channel that turned me on to it. Very powerful diagnostic tool.
Paused @ 4:30 Thank you so much for answering the request to demo the Topdon Topscan. I was very hopeful that you would. Not too bad for general personal use though. It's certainly better than most other options in its price class. But agreed. It could never replace a professional tier scan tool. Now the dealer would like to replace the fuel tank with the evap line because that evap line is part of the tank and cannot be detached. VW does this too. I was not aware of the A/C condenser bulletin on those Accords. But common leak points on any modern car are condenser, schrader valves and compressor input shaft seal. Scotty Kilmer loves Honda compressors for that. lol
Ivan, I just used that same TopScan on the exact same P0445 for my daughters 2009 Saturn Vue. Under 'Active Test' it had both purge and vent control available and worked great. The problem for my daughters was the purge control solenoid has a tiny silicone ring inside of it that had hardened and started leaking. Ordered GM part from RockAuto and it's good to go all because of your videos :)
It's funny what you said about the speed. My wife bought me a topdon topscan for my birthday. I put it in our BMW and left it to scan whilst we drove up to town. It was finished before we got to the end of our road. Thought something must be wrong, but no. Just a very good scanner and for the money it's just fabulous
The dealer just does modular repair. They usually dont want to go to the componenet level like you do and actually diagnose a problem. They're sort of forced to just fire the cannon over and over. That's why I dont do anything at the dealer unless it's free.
A dealer cannot do a repair like this. Its a liability issue. Nothing wrong with this repair, works fine. BUT.... if something were to happen due to a repair of this type that caused any type of safety or other issue then the dealer is held responsible. Even if the customer agrees to the repair as it would be stated in court that the customer does not know the repercussions that a non factory repair could cause, the dealer tech should know better and only do repairs as specified by the manufacturer, all other repairs are on the dealer and or tech doing them. The aftermarket world is not held to same standards and can offer an interim fix as long as customer is informed. Dont blame the dealer tech, blame the industry. Like a doctor in a hospital cannot perform certain procedures but look hard enough and can probably find one that would.
Dealer = repaired within OEM Specs. Honda is never going to tell its techs to cut the tubing and use some random one you've got lying around to combine the two. Third party Mechanic = Yeah I can get this fixed a few different ways, OEM parts, Aftermarket parts or this DIY way that will cost way less because its a pretty simple fix. If you expect your dealer to operate outside of OEM specs then you probably should just buy used cars.
I hate to say it but Honda has followed GM and have turned to Junk! I’ve owned 4 Hondas and all were in the 90’s and early 2000’ and were great. In 2017 we bought this exact car. It was nothing but trouble. Sunroof failed, passenger window failed, TPMS computer failed, 2 AC Compressors failed, a AC Condenser failed, and an Engine Computer failed all before 28,000 miles. To top it off it started rusting around the back window at 12,000 and the car received a new paint job from the Front Doors back! My neighbor bought a Minivan last year and it was in the shop over 300 days of its first 365 days. Long story short they refused to buy it back and completely replaced every wire in the vehicle over a parasitic draw. They did give her $5000 back but now the vehicle has ABS and Airbag issues. She tried to trade it on a Ford Expedition and it’s flagged.
I don't blame the dealer in their proposed repair because they are constrained in what they can offer for replacement parts. If a new hose necessarily has to come with a new tank, then that's what they do. Is that right? It's debatable, but then they can't be accused of half-assing the repair. Kudos to the dealer for honoring the extended A/C warranty!
I agree - The dealer identified the problem and offered a solution that they were willing to warranty, so I wouldn’t consider that a rip off exactly. Ideally he could have told the customer off the record that a little bit of fuel hose and a couple of zip ties would fix the leak, but I don’t blame him for not agreeing to do that.
I agree, I can't see the rest of that 7 year old hose lasting. This is more of a patch than a repair. Having said that, this patch is exactly what I would have done :)
Yeah, that's not a bad proposal for the dealer to offer with what the manufacture offered. Shame on the manufacture for not offering that pipe separately. I guess you could rebuild that hose with nylon line. Or just do what Ivan did and call it a day.
Similar situation with a Tesla. Person ran over something that caused a break in the battery's coolant system. The plastic nozzle on the battery pack was broken. Tesla's solution? Replace the entire battery pack. Rick Rebuild's solution? Fix the broken part.
A "fresh" car? I can't believe Honda screwed up. They did stand behind their product. The dealership should have offered to repair the A/C under recall and then refer the customer to Ivan for the evap leak. If I were a betting man, I would have bet the blend door actuator on the driver's side was bad as the temp was cooler on the passenger's side. I understand that 1234YF refrigerant is slightly flammable. GREAT VIDEO!
sadly hardly anyone wants to work hard these days, they would rather go to college then be unemployed after college instead of learning a trade and TRADE industries like plumbing and AC pay a lot!
I have a 2018 Civic SI with the same exact symptoms. Dealership said it was a defective condenser and thank God replaced it under warranty. Got another letter in the mail from Honda regarding the fuel pump. It's being recalled due to the cheap plastic fuel pump impeller that may disintegrate over time. They will replace it at no cost to me but I've been waiting for over a year cuz of shortage of parts. This affects many years and models so they're going to need a lot of them made. I just hope mine holds up and doesn't leave me stranded before I can get it fixed.
I've noticed many/most newer used Civics for sale online haven't had the Fuel Pump Impeller recall work done (looking at CarFax). Your post explains why. Thanks.
Same situation with my wife's CRV. Been waiting about a year for them to have fuel pump. Maybe the new fuel pumps are being used on cars that have had the failure already, and they aren't catching up?
My niece's 2018 Accord had every light on the dashboard light up all at once while driving - it happened twice. She traded it in for a 2021 model. I would avoid owning a 2018 Honda anything...
SURR,Dorman and many others have fuel line repair kits that are capable of air tight line repairs for vapor lines and pressure lines. Definitely a must have so the entire line doesn't have to be replaced.
Yup, after watching your video on scanners I did buy the Topdon scanner for my phone. I already had a LAUNCH CRP129X. When I tried the Topdon scanner on my car it showed faults in my blend doors the Launch did not. Granted the launch is a lower end scanner I paid $200 for, but I only paid $57 for the Topdon and it has a lot more features. Thank you!!
I like the small blue flag in the garage. That top scan tool was fast. My goodness, the fix was common sense. Dealers have to sell maintenance but sometimes they insult us. Nice work getting to the issue.
Ivan, another option is XTool A30M bi-directional scantool, uses tablet or phone. I've used it about a year now, great scantool, also included free lifetime upgrades.
Corolla has a plastic line that is formed on the tank and can't be replaced. However, we give the customer the option for us to replace it with a fuel rated hose. We would have to replace the entire tank otherwise as the line is not available.
Ivan.. ap call3d 'refrigerant slider" -- it shows all the relevant temperatures and pressures of all the different refrigerants. It's super handy. You can use it to compare replacements and compatibility of different refrigerants.
Thanks for showing this scanner Ivan, I appreciate it. Also what a crazy price to fix that problem you fixed on the line. You'd think the line would be available without the gas tank or canister.
It's nearly impossible for a dealer or most repair shops to repair a hose that way. At our shop we have to offer a 3 year 36k mile warranty. So if the line breaks in a new place every few months the customer is rarely as understanding afterwards as when they saved money initially. It would be a great repair on your own vehicle or for a customer who truly understands that it is a patch with no warranty if you are able to offer that option.
Nice job Ivan, saving your customers money over the dealer (stealer?). You're correct, Honda dealer is not going to think or do anything "outside the box" i.e. what some Honda repair manual says. Glad the owner able to get condenser replaced under warranty, imgine some labor involved in replacement.
If you want to up your ac leak detection, get the inficon D-TEK 3 or any other reputable infrared diode technology leak detector. Worth its weight in gold. When I got it I was blown away by its sensitivity, false positive immunity and ability to find tiniest leaks. Before I was using cheapo ionization detector type and it was absolute garbage. Yes, 600$ but it pays for itself in no time by preventing parts cannon and saving hours upon hours of frustration.
Props to the dealer to change the the piece under warranty in those daring times. I know other brands that just would blame the owners and make them pay
Squirrels chewed several holes in at similar hose running from the gas tank to the gas filler neck of my 2007 Toyota Tundra. Toyota does not sell the hose since it is permanently attach to barbed male adapter machined into the gas tank and is not supposed to be removed. The tank with hose is $2000!! Fixed it using two feet of rubber gas hose and two worm-drive hose clamps for about $15; which is too much as well!
These manufactures are just working the angles to milk the consumer. I just had my truck diagnosed (2014 Ram Ecodiesel) for a P203E DEF level sensor intermittent or erratic. Conclusion was the level sensor (ultrasonic type if I read right) is starting to fail. Unfortunately they do not sell the part separate so the whole tank must be replaced. $3205 for the tank with sensors and heater installed, $435 for the work, and another $78 for 4 gallons of DEF. I did find a Canadian company that replaces the level sensor (and temp, package deal) with a nice warranty and quick turn around. The catch is they don't stock the tanks so you have to pull the tank, ship to Canada, they turn around in 2 days, and ship it back. Total price would be under $800 but I'd have to do all the work in my backyard (tons of fun). Anyway ... that's my manufacture/dealer complaint of the week.
Thanks Ivan. RANDOM: browsing recent model used vehicles online and referencing the CarFax (when possible) I'm mildly surprised by the volume of (new) Tire and wheel replacements....some within the first 20k miles. Having had a small vehicle with wider, low sidewall OEM tires, I get it. OTOH, We had that Mazda for over 12 years (120k miles) and never lost a tire or rim. Maybe drivers just aren't paying attn. to "road hazards" or curbs. Hence dealers selling "wheel/tire replacement" policies at purchase, I guess.
Hey Ivan, fairly often if you shine a regular flashlight at just the right angles you can spot the oil staining on the condenser to find the corrosion spots. I did this on this same vehicle for a customer here. It just occurs randomly along the front edge of the tubes. It's not the normal leak points near the sides of the condenser.
I just fixed a piece of that on a Ford and I used the plastic barred hose fitting. Slid it in both sides. I put silicone around it well actually I used windshield urethane and sealed it all up urethane dry overnight no leaks whatsoever.
Thanks for showing the limitations of Bluetooth scanners. I have the Xtool version and was doing a rear brake job on my wife's MDX and it could see the electronic parking brake but could not retract it.
That vent hose/tube/pipe is a available in some markets as a replacement part. It’s just a big job to install. The tank is also available as an assembly with that vent “tube” for around $300.
After all of these years of using R-134, I don't know why they had to come up with a new refrigerant. 134 was supposed to be environmentally friendy, but all of a sudden, it's not good enough. I guess you're right about it keeping you from repairing it yourself. I still prefer R-12, but that's a moot point these days. A/C repair has gone from a relative inexpensive repair to one that costs a fortune. Great video!
I heard the patent ran out and Dupont pressured the government lackys in its back pocket to come out with a new patentable refrigerant that only they can manufacture to keep them rich for years to come.
good old R-1234YF with 1/2" acme LEFT hand threads(most tanks/cans/hose-ends)... and of course 14mm quick coupler(low side), 17mm quick coupler (high side). of course any of it can be found online, including left/right thread adapters and can taps(also left hand) yeehaw.
having been in the HVAC field for a while a few years ago had training on flammable refrigerants that were propane based and if I remember correctly R1234yf was one of them. The benefit is that the amount of the charge is a fraction of the amount required for R134a and R134a has been labeled as a global warming risk.
@@marcokahny709 actually not, roadways are such a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of any meaningful amount of space. Basic scale, geometry man! Chemistry of this stuff is real and its really really bad
I jerryrigged a similar hose to the evaporator drain on my F150. Ford put it right over the passenger side frame rail, and how much you want to bet that's where the frame rots? I extended it down below the frame rail.
Ivan you are so correct new cars with new parts total junk no matter who the manufacturer is. Build the car cheaply and sell for the highest price possible then try to rip you off with a gas tank for a vent leak. You will be in bustiness for ever because you are honest ! 👍. Artie
I believe the R1234yf is corrosive in itself. It is mildly flammable, which is nuts that it is used in a vehicle. My mom's Camry has it and you have to keep the air on full blast unless you are driving for more than an hour. It's ability to move heat has to be much lower than R134a or R12. Nevermind it's over $600 for 10 pounds.
I think the obvious answer is the customer does not need a new fuel tank for the hose leak. An alternative method to fixing the evap line with Silicone tubing would be to use hard line NiCopp tubing (optionally SS tubing as there are no complex bends) with beads. Not as fast as Ivan's approach, because you have to cut the tubing to the proper length and make beads (you will need a beading tool) at both ends. You would then use two SS hose clamps to secure the existing line to the tubing. So the NiCopp (SS) approach would also cost more than Ivan's approach. It's not an easy call. I think if it was my vehicle I would use the NiCopp (SS) approach. Which ever approach you use it is important secure the line with tie wraps in order to keep it away from the chaffing surface (edge) which cut the hole in the first place. You could also put high temp plastic convoluted tubing around the repaired area which would increase wear protection. To complete the repair the vehicle should be driven to make sure the EVAP OBD II Monitor has passed in particular, and all others in order to get registration (not sure if this is needed in Penn). Many times the OEM A/C system lubricant will include UV die from the factory to help identify A/C leaks. If so, with this vehicle, you could use a UV Flashlight (uvBeast) to see if you can identify a leak.
In my opinion, there are mistakes in dealer part setup or pricing, but no way of identifying and correcting them. Of course, it's less profitable when some errors are corrected, so there is that, too. I needed a transfer case shaft for my '71 Jeep in the 1980's , and I'm convinced the local dealer just had a mistake (+$100) in their pricing. I called twice, and was quoted the same price both times. I called a dealer in the upstate, and purchased it for delivery at my home (-$100). After receiving it, I called the local dealer and asked for a price based on the part number of what I recieved. Local dealer gave me the same price (+$100) as before. Buyer beware - Always!
Thank you Ivan. Appreciated using the Top Don scanner as well. Grea video. You should start charging a percentage of what the dealer repair would have been!
The option for automatic or manual in the Topdon dongle only refers to reading the vin number and not whether the car is automatic or manual it’s a little bit confusing and I only realised when it wouldn’t read the vin,I do think the dongles quite good for a DIYer but always get the pro version not the lite,good video as always thanks for making them I have learnt loads from you but sometimes I can watch and still don’t know what you are doing 😂
Ivan, One thing to consider is that dealers are restricted by their contracts with the manufacturer to always repair a vehicle back to factory specifications and if it's a warranty repair, they must use factory parts to make the repair. This is especially true of vehicles that were sold by that dealer. Therefore, it would follow that the dealer was unable to offer this type of solution to the owner of the vehicle. Some states have additional restrictions for "servicing" dealers that can handcuff a repair of this type in those states. Most techs that work in a dealership, and the service writers, are honest, and genuinely want to repair the vehicles they work on the best way possible, at a decent time frame, and the least cost to the owner. The dealer principals, however, are sometimes a completely different story, and restrict their service departments in order to maximize their profits. Service work and used car sales is where the dealerships get their cash flow. It's what supports the dealership in between the new car sales.
Had basically the same problem on a 2005 element. The tank cost was 800 . The hose actuall could be replaced easily but they didn't sell it. Replaced with fuel hose.
In my country we use r134a in yf systems, I know America is different but it doesn't hurt the system, just make sure all the yf is removed from the system
Had the same issue with rodents chewed up non replaceable non removable plastic evap line on Hyundai. Just tightly wrapped it with high quality tape. Was good for another ten years.
I've often thought Ivan could do with a battery and mains operated QuickJack in his garage or yard and then use battery when out in the field if needed. 👍
That's so crazy price just to replace junk parts lol. At least you fixed it by band aid it. At least no more evap leak. But as for R1234yf is so stupid expensive, no thanks lol
Nice repair Ivan. Due to all the sue happy nut cases out there, I can somewhat understand why the dealership’s can’t do these simple repair’s, or even explain to the customer how it could easily be remedied. 👍👍🇺🇸
Anyone that is considering buying one of the Topdon dongles to use with your smartphone, I'd highly recommend buying one of those small OBD2 extension cables. You can leave the cable plugged into the dongle, and then all the wear and tear is on the cable itself from being plugged and unplugged into OBD ports. Just my advice.
Topdon has 2 versions of that bluetooth scanner. The basic version for $50+ with some bidirectional controls with a $50 a year subscription or the pro version for $100 with more bidirectional controls and injector coding with a $100 a year subscription.
New refrigerant caused failure of major A/C components. Honda has a recall and 10 yr extended warranty in place. Had an evaporator dealer replaced N/C.
whoa ! evaporator on a late model honda? what year? That is a disaster longterm bcuz evap jobs are usually one of the most expensive jobs in entire car! holy mole!!!
My ac condenser had a super tiny leak! The dealer said it took a long time to find it. I knew something was up when my ac didn’t blow cool air coming from both vents or any vents for the matter. I had to argue my case with them because my VIN wasn’t one of those in the recall. Once I brought it back a 2nd time lo and behold that’s when they found the leak and got it replaced under warranty. Things like this shouldn’t break for a car under 100k. My car at that time only had around 40-50k miles. I have a ‘18 accord too but the sport 2.0t. Another major issue was the front wheel bearing was defective and I didn’t even hit anything so that was replaced under warranty too. Honda has definitely gone down in quality.. next time I’m buying a Toyota for long time reliability primarily the ones with the J in the vin so I know it’s manufactured in Japan.
I figured the R1234a would detect it since it detects every other thing like the air we breathe. I'm just glad all manufacturers install dye in their systems now.
Actually improving your entire System, #1 It's not Flammable like the New YF💩, Stupid Government Mandated madness is making all new Cars 💩. Trump 2024.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics yep, I notice no difference. I refused to pay the absurd price, plus I'm just a DIY'er. From what I remember I had to charge it with less, like 1/3 less
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ivan.. ap call3d 'refrigerant slider" -- it shows all the relevant temperatures and pressures of all the different refrigerants. It's super handy. You can use it to compare replacements and compatibility of different refrigerants.
Yep.. it should work fine. The "refrigerant slider" appl^cation shows that r134a at 40' is around 35psi.. and r1234yf at 40' is around 38psi.. So practically the same; so it should work just fine. Where as r410a at 40' is 118psi.. so it wouldn't work. r290 (propane) at 40' is 63psi.. so it probably wouldn't work well either. "refrigerant slider'-- it's so useful.
Another good tip is stop filling the tank all the way to the top of the filler neck ! Go one click and thats it ! Prob the #1 cause of purge valve and cannister failures ! 👆
Out of the top ten independent shops in the nation, the average shop bill was $900 to $1400. I read that in Motor Magazine or Motorage over 15 years ago! Dealerships charge more than that.
Ivan needs a lift ❤I pray you get one, maybe used? Call a company named SARS. Near Philly. I bought a used drive on rack from them, good service and install!
It's funny how the owner had to bring the car to you and you had to find out on a Honda enthusiast forum about the warranty replacement instead of the dealer letting them know when the car was already in for work. Or you know, Honda reaching out. You'd think with all these car brands keeping these vehicles constantly connected for "system updates" they'd be able to let you know through the infotainment system about recalls and warranty programs.
Pretty sure there was no complaint about no ac when it was at the dealer. Extended policy warranty covers defects beyond the factory warranty when there is a failure. I had a customer bring me her vehicle outside of work with a failed engine. I did a little research and found it may be covered by the manufacturer and let her know. Told her to find all maintenance records and then call dealer with vin number and ask them. 3 months later she finally got a new engine installed no charge.
The infotainment data mining, data sales is the manufacturers side gig, nothing more. Ohhhhh huh, this car frequents this route and stops at these businesses. Hmmm, we see a pattern and it's worth money.
Up here in Canada they have the 1234Yf cans. When you read the description on back, it says 1234YFhc. It is an equivalent not exact. Had a customer that diy charged their car. My YF machine detector failed it. Virgin YF won't.
@@s3w349 All of the big scanners require yearly subscriptions to keep they updated. You can still use them though. They just won't have current information if you don't update.
You're correct in saying Stealerships cannot repair outside the box. If the individual part is not available (hose) then they replace the next higher assembly. They claim it's a Liability Issue to do "Outside the Box" common sense repairs. Meanwhile the customer takes it in the rear with a exorbitant repair cost.
My sons Honda Civic had the exact same issue with the condenser, Had to wait for the dealer to get one in stock, According to the dealer they were going through them like a newborn goes through diapers.
My experience with dealers for the last 10 years is every fix is for completely new parts. Broken wire? Entire new wiring harness. Leaking fuel line? Entire new fuel line - not just replace part that is broken but rather entirely new.
They do say not to use r-134a sniffer on the r-1234yf systems due to r-1234yf is somewhat flammable. Not sure exactley what the 134a sniffer does that could cause that to be an issue. I do know our 1234yf sniffer seems to detect refrigerant in the open air no where near a vehicle but cant seem to find a leak unless it large enough to see with dye and a black light. Hate those things.
Keep in mind folks this is standard protocol for dealers to do this. If the part comes with the tank, they must replace it as such. Dealers dont repair broken items, they replace it. This is because Honda Corp offers a standard warranty to the consumer on replaced parts and labor, The dealer wont take a risk on repairing an item since its not something they can warranty effectively. This is also why rodent damage can total out a car, as the whole harness would get replaced, rather than repaired.
I remember back in the day when dealers would actually do repairs like that. Back when there were more true gearheads running service departments. Then came the "services advisors" (sales position), bean counters and liability lawyers.
This repair is why I love Ivan, most other mechanics would replace the entire tank needlessly.
It's not "needlessly." Replacing the tank with the hose is the proper repair and is how people would expect the dealership to repair a vehicle. They are supposed to bring it back to original. Ivan's repair is fine...nothing wrong with it... but dealer techs aren't allowed to repair that way.
@@x01e I think most mechanics with common sense would repair it in 5 minutes exactly the same way 😄
@@johnaclark1 Poor dealerships, how else are they going make money to cover the cost of the waiting room.
You're not getting donuts and coffee at SMA,LLC.
@@robertklein1316 I can give you some hot tea and biscuits 😂
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Great, I'd have to drive at least 11 hrs.X 2. Thanks!
Your customer should have been absolutely thrilled with your diagnostics, repair, research and advice on this one, Ivan! You probably saved them 2 grand or more and got the car fixed! This is a good reminder how important a TSB search can be. Not only are they sources of important info, they often provide an opportunity to point the customer to a no cost repair at the dealership! Really good stuff!
I liked that you pulled out the topscan and gave it a go. It certainly has its place. I think it's a great diy scanner or a (very compact!) scanner to have on a road trip when you don't have a lot of equipment with you. Most people who are using a topscan won't have a smoke machine, for example, at least not with them...
I always look forward to your videos with great anticipation, thanks very much!
@@josephdunton3651 yup always keep a TopScan in the glove box! 😁👍
Obviously this customer made the right choice bringing their car to you.
Fixed the evap leak at a fraction of the dealer's quote and then sent them in the right direction to resolve the A/C issue.
Awesome job!
I've been using topscan pro since January. I only had to use a traditional scan tool twice since then. It's used every single day. Super convenient and also has immo capabilities. I have done Ram, Honda, and Ford keys without any problems. Thanks Ivan, it was your channel that turned me on to it. Very powerful diagnostic tool.
Paused @ 4:30 Thank you so much for answering the request to demo the Topdon Topscan. I was very hopeful that you would. Not too bad for general personal use though. It's certainly better than most other options in its price class. But agreed. It could never replace a professional tier scan tool.
Now the dealer would like to replace the fuel tank with the evap line because that evap line is part of the tank and cannot be detached. VW does this too. I was not aware of the A/C condenser bulletin on those Accords. But common leak points on any modern car are condenser, schrader valves and compressor input shaft seal. Scotty Kilmer loves Honda compressors for that. lol
Ivan, I just used that same TopScan on the exact same P0445 for my daughters 2009 Saturn Vue. Under 'Active Test' it had both purge and vent control available and worked great. The problem for my daughters was the purge control solenoid has a tiny silicone ring inside of it that had hardened and started leaking. Ordered GM part from RockAuto and it's good to go all because of your videos :)
It's funny what you said about the speed. My wife bought me a topdon topscan for my birthday. I put it in our BMW and left it to scan whilst we drove up to town. It was finished before we got to the end of our road. Thought something must be wrong, but no. Just a very good scanner and for the money it's just fabulous
The dealer just does modular repair. They usually dont want to go to the componenet level like you do and actually diagnose a problem. They're sort of forced to just fire the cannon over and over. That's why I dont do anything at the dealer unless it's free.
Bloody miracle a stealership actually complying with a fault bulletin.Cheers Ivan.
It has become more than clear over the years that dealerships are NOT repair shops.
Not like u think. Its strutured
A dealer cannot do a repair like this. Its a liability issue. Nothing wrong with this repair, works fine. BUT.... if something were to happen due to a repair of this type that caused any type of safety or other issue then the dealer is held responsible. Even if the customer agrees to the repair as it would be stated in court that the customer does not know the repercussions that a non factory repair could cause, the dealer tech should know better and only do repairs as specified by the manufacturer, all other repairs are on the dealer and or tech doing them. The aftermarket world is not held to same standards and can offer an interim fix as long as customer is informed. Dont blame the dealer tech, blame the industry. Like a doctor in a hospital cannot perform certain procedures but look hard enough and can probably find one that would.
Dealer = repaired within OEM Specs. Honda is never going to tell its techs to cut the tubing and use some random one you've got lying around to combine the two.
Third party Mechanic = Yeah I can get this fixed a few different ways, OEM parts, Aftermarket parts or this DIY way that will cost way less because its a pretty simple fix.
If you expect your dealer to operate outside of OEM specs then you probably should just buy used cars.
I hate to say it but Honda has followed GM and have turned to Junk!
I’ve owned 4 Hondas and all were in the 90’s and early 2000’ and were great.
In 2017 we bought this exact car. It was nothing but trouble. Sunroof failed, passenger window failed, TPMS computer failed, 2 AC Compressors failed, a AC Condenser failed, and an Engine Computer failed all before 28,000 miles.
To top it off it started rusting around the back window at 12,000 and the car received a new paint job from the Front Doors back!
My neighbor bought a Minivan last year and it was in the shop over 300 days of its first 365 days. Long story short they refused to buy it back and completely replaced every wire in the vehicle over a parasitic draw. They did give her $5000 back but now the vehicle has ABS and Airbag issues. She tried to trade it on a Ford Expedition and it’s flagged.
@@chrisanderson4799 what brand minivan? And was your honda 1.5L or 2.4?
I hope that hose will last a long time. With only 1 psi or less, it won't get pushed off the flex hose.
Good one Ivan.
I don't blame the dealer in their proposed repair because they are constrained in what they can offer for replacement parts. If a new hose necessarily has to come with a new tank, then that's what they do. Is that right? It's debatable, but then they can't be accused of half-assing the repair. Kudos to the dealer for honoring the extended A/C warranty!
I agree - The dealer identified the problem and offered a solution that they were willing to warranty, so I wouldn’t consider that a rip off exactly. Ideally he could have told the customer off the record that a little bit of fuel hose and a couple of zip ties would fix the leak, but I don’t blame him for not agreeing to do that.
I agree, I can't see the rest of that 7 year old hose lasting. This is more of a patch than a repair. Having said that, this patch is exactly what I would have done :)
Yeah, that's not a bad proposal for the dealer to offer with what the manufacture offered. Shame on the manufacture for not offering that pipe separately.
I guess you could rebuild that hose with nylon line. Or just do what Ivan did and call it a day.
Yeah.. it's Honda's fault for designing it that way.
Similar situation with a Tesla. Person ran over something that caused a break in the battery's coolant system. The plastic nozzle on the battery pack was broken. Tesla's solution? Replace the entire battery pack. Rick Rebuild's solution? Fix the broken part.
A "fresh" car? I can't believe Honda screwed up. They did stand behind their product. The dealership should have offered to repair the A/C under recall and then refer the customer to Ivan for the evap leak. If I were a betting man, I would have bet the blend door actuator on the driver's side was bad as the temp was cooler on the passenger's side. I understand that 1234YF refrigerant is slightly flammable. GREAT VIDEO!
Great job Ivan! Another super happy customer that you saved $2000! Who they gonna call next time?.........
The world needs more mechanics like you. You just make it look so easy
sadly hardly anyone wants to work hard these days, they would rather go to college then be unemployed after college instead of learning a trade and TRADE industries like plumbing and AC pay a lot!
I’d be tempted to add a cable tie or clamp to both ends, just to be sure.
I have a 2018 Civic SI with the same exact symptoms. Dealership said it was a defective condenser and thank God replaced it under warranty. Got another letter in the mail from Honda regarding the fuel pump. It's being recalled due to the cheap plastic fuel pump impeller that may disintegrate over time. They will replace it at no cost to me but I've been waiting for over a year cuz of shortage of parts. This affects many years and models so they're going to need a lot of them made. I just hope mine holds up and doesn't leave me stranded before I can get it fixed.
I've noticed many/most newer used Civics for sale online haven't had the Fuel Pump Impeller recall work done (looking at CarFax). Your post explains why. Thanks.
Same situation with my wife's CRV. Been waiting about a year for them to have fuel pump. Maybe the new fuel pumps are being used on cars that have had the failure already, and they aren't catching up?
My niece's 2018 Accord had every light on the dashboard light up all at once while driving - it happened twice. She traded it in for a 2021 model. I would avoid owning a 2018 Honda anything...
SURR,Dorman and many others have fuel line repair kits that are capable of air tight line repairs for vapor lines and pressure lines. Definitely a must have so the entire line doesn't have to be replaced.
Yup, after watching your video on scanners I did buy the Topdon scanner for my phone. I already had a LAUNCH CRP129X. When I tried the Topdon scanner on my car it showed faults in my blend doors the Launch did not. Granted the launch is a lower end scanner I paid $200 for, but I only paid $57 for the Topdon and it has a lot more features. Thank you!!
I like the small blue flag in the garage. That top scan tool was fast. My goodness, the fix was common sense. Dealers have to sell maintenance but sometimes they insult us. Nice work getting to the issue.
Ivan, another option is XTool A30M bi-directional scantool, uses tablet or phone. I've used it about a year now, great scantool, also included free lifetime upgrades.
If you engage the safety brake the headlights should go out. This is good to remember when charging or jumping a dead battery.
I was wondering if this was the case. I know my Subaru does it, but I wasn't sure about Honda.
@@TreyCook21 Yes, and just make sure your headlights are on "OFF" not "AUTO"
We need honest technicians that care about their work . Not looking to take customers 💴 💵 . God blessed you for your honesty 🙏.
Corolla has a plastic line that is formed on the tank and can't be replaced. However, we give the customer the option for us to replace it with a fuel rated hose. We would have to replace the entire tank otherwise as the line is not available.
Ivan.. ap call3d 'refrigerant slider" -- it shows all the relevant temperatures and pressures of all the different refrigerants. It's super handy. You can use it to compare replacements and compatibility of different refrigerants.
Thanks for showing this scanner Ivan, I appreciate it. Also what a crazy price to fix that problem you fixed on the line. You'd think the line would be available without the gas tank or canister.
That phone scan actually had a lot more functions than I thought it would.. Think tool and xtool both have a similar one. pretty cool stuff
It's nearly impossible for a dealer or most repair shops to repair a hose that way. At our shop we have to offer a 3 year 36k mile warranty. So if the line breaks in a new place every few months the customer is rarely as understanding afterwards as when they saved money initially. It would be a great repair on your own vehicle or for a customer who truly understands that it is a patch with no warranty if you are able to offer that option.
Nice job Ivan, saving your customers money over the dealer (stealer?). You're correct, Honda dealer is not going to think or do anything "outside the box" i.e. what some Honda repair manual says. Glad the owner able to get condenser replaced under warranty, imgine some labor involved in replacement.
Front seal on the ac compressor has a recall as well, seen it few times this summer
If you want to up your ac leak detection, get the inficon D-TEK 3 or any other reputable infrared diode technology leak detector. Worth its weight in gold. When I got it I was blown away by its sensitivity, false positive immunity and ability to find tiniest leaks. Before I was using cheapo ionization detector type and it was absolute garbage. Yes, 600$ but it pays for itself in no time by preventing parts cannon and saving hours upon hours of frustration.
Props to the dealer to change the the piece under warranty in those daring times. I know other brands that just would blame the owners and make them pay
Ivan Good for you, for pointing Owner in right direction. Keep up the good work.
Squirrels chewed several holes in at similar hose running from the gas tank to the gas filler neck of my 2007 Toyota Tundra. Toyota does not sell the hose since it is permanently attach to barbed male adapter machined into the gas tank and is not supposed to be removed. The tank with hose is $2000!! Fixed it using two feet of rubber gas hose and two worm-drive hose clamps for about $15; which is too much as well!
I would've just covered the hole in the EVAP line with glue lined heatshrink tubing (Raychem) !
very good idea.
These manufactures are just working the angles to milk the consumer. I just had my truck diagnosed (2014 Ram Ecodiesel) for a P203E DEF level sensor intermittent or erratic. Conclusion was the level sensor (ultrasonic type if I read right) is starting to fail. Unfortunately they do not sell the part separate so the whole tank must be replaced. $3205 for the tank with sensors and heater installed, $435 for the work, and another $78 for 4 gallons of DEF.
I did find a Canadian company that replaces the level sensor (and temp, package deal) with a nice warranty and quick turn around. The catch is they don't stock the tanks so you have to pull the tank, ship to Canada, they turn around in 2 days, and ship it back. Total price would be under $800 but I'd have to do all the work in my backyard (tons of fun). Anyway ... that's my manufacture/dealer complaint of the week.
Thanks for sharing that. Two choices and neither of them very reasonable.
Thanks Ivan. RANDOM: browsing recent model used vehicles online and referencing the CarFax (when possible) I'm mildly surprised by the volume of (new) Tire and wheel replacements....some within the first 20k miles. Having had a small vehicle with wider, low sidewall OEM tires, I get it. OTOH, We had that Mazda for over 12 years (120k miles) and never lost a tire or rim.
Maybe drivers just aren't paying attn. to "road hazards" or curbs. Hence dealers selling "wheel/tire replacement" policies at purchase, I guess.
Hey Ivan, fairly often if you shine a regular flashlight at just the right angles you can spot the oil staining on the condenser to find the corrosion spots. I did this on this same vehicle for a customer here. It just occurs randomly along the front edge of the tubes. It's not the normal leak points near the sides of the condenser.
I just fixed a piece of that on a Ford and I used the plastic barred hose fitting. Slid it in both sides. I put silicone around it well actually I used windshield urethane and sealed it all up urethane dry overnight no leaks whatsoever.
Thanks for showing the limitations of Bluetooth scanners. I have the Xtool version and was doing a rear brake job on my wife's MDX and it could see the electronic parking brake but could not retract it.
Thanks!
thanks for demonstrating the topdon scanner. i have an old actron that does everything i need it to do so far
It's great you did this with the Top Scan. I love mine, a lot of power for basically no cost.
That vent hose/tube/pipe is a available in some markets as a replacement part. It’s just a big job to install. The tank is also available as an assembly with that vent “tube” for around $300.
After all of these years of using R-134, I don't know why they had to come up with a new refrigerant. 134 was supposed to be environmentally friendy, but all of a sudden, it's not good enough. I guess you're right about it keeping you from repairing it yourself. I still prefer R-12, but that's a moot point these days. A/C repair has gone from a relative inexpensive repair to one that costs a fortune. Great video!
I heard the patent ran out and Dupont pressured the government lackys in its back pocket to come out with a new patentable refrigerant that only they can manufacture to keep them rich for years to come.
Great evap sys t/s. Ivan does it again, also glad to see his thumb healing up, been kinda sick to look at for a while....haha
good old R-1234YF with 1/2" acme LEFT hand threads(most tanks/cans/hose-ends)... and of course 14mm quick coupler(low side), 17mm quick coupler (high side).
of course any of it can be found online, including left/right thread adapters and can taps(also left hand) yeehaw.
having been in the HVAC field for a while a few years ago had training on flammable refrigerants that were propane based and if I remember correctly R1234yf was one of them. The benefit is that the amount of the charge is a fraction of the amount required for R134a and R134a has been labeled as a global warming risk.
It's a global warning risk. That's why they let the DYI dump it to the atmosphere. No risk to the atmosphere.
@@dkleford
I think paving all the roads in the world black is a bigger cause of global warming 🤔
@@marcokahny709 I could not agree you more! 🤔
@@marcokahny709 actually not, roadways are such a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of any meaningful amount of space. Basic scale, geometry man! Chemistry of this stuff is real and its really really bad
I'm glad I'm not the only guy who uses garden hoses to fix my car! Well done, Ivan!
I jerryrigged a similar hose to the evaporator drain on my F150. Ford put it right over the passenger side frame rail, and how much you want to bet that's where the frame rots? I extended it down below the frame rail.
Ivan you are so correct new cars with new parts total junk no matter who the manufacturer is. Build the car cheaply and sell for the highest price possible then try to rip you off with a gas tank for a vent leak. You will be in bustiness for ever because you are honest ! 👍. Artie
I believe the R1234yf is corrosive in itself. It is mildly flammable, which is nuts that it is used in a vehicle. My mom's Camry has it and you have to keep the air on full blast unless you are driving for more than an hour. It's ability to move heat has to be much lower than R134a or R12. Nevermind it's over $600 for 10 pounds.
I think the obvious answer is the customer does not need a new fuel tank for the hose leak.
An alternative method to fixing the evap line with Silicone tubing would be to use hard line NiCopp tubing (optionally SS tubing as there are no complex bends) with beads. Not as fast as Ivan's approach, because you have to cut the tubing to the proper length and make beads (you will need a beading tool) at both ends. You would then use two SS hose clamps to secure the existing line to the tubing. So the NiCopp (SS) approach would also cost more than Ivan's approach. It's not an easy call. I think if it was my vehicle I would use the NiCopp (SS) approach.
Which ever approach you use it is important secure the line with tie wraps in order to keep it away from the chaffing surface (edge) which cut the hole in the first place. You could also put high temp plastic convoluted tubing around the repaired area which would increase wear protection.
To complete the repair the vehicle should be driven to make sure the EVAP OBD II Monitor has passed in particular, and all others in order to get registration (not sure if this is needed in Penn).
Many times the OEM A/C system lubricant will include UV die from the factory to help identify A/C leaks. If so, with this vehicle, you could use a UV Flashlight (uvBeast) to see if you can identify a leak.
In my opinion, there are mistakes in dealer part setup or pricing, but no way of identifying and correcting them. Of course, it's less profitable when some errors are corrected, so there is that, too. I needed a transfer case shaft for my '71 Jeep in the 1980's , and I'm convinced the local dealer just had a mistake (+$100) in their pricing. I called twice, and was quoted the same price both times. I called a dealer in the upstate, and purchased it for delivery at my home (-$100). After receiving it, I called the local dealer and asked for a price based on the part number of what I recieved. Local dealer gave me the same price (+$100) as before. Buyer beware - Always!
Thank you Ivan. Appreciated using the Top Don scanner as well. Grea video. You should start charging a percentage of what the dealer repair would have been!
The option for automatic or manual in the Topdon dongle only refers to reading the vin number and not whether the car is automatic or manual it’s a little bit confusing and I only realised when it wouldn’t read the vin,I do think the dongles quite good for a DIYer but always get the pro version not the lite,good video as always thanks for making them I have learnt loads from you but sometimes I can watch and still don’t know what you are doing 😂
The pro version includes some decent immobilizer functions. Well worth 120 bucks a year.
Ivan, One thing to consider is that dealers are restricted by their contracts with the manufacturer to always repair a vehicle back to factory specifications and if it's a warranty repair, they must use factory parts to make the repair. This is especially true of vehicles that were sold by that dealer. Therefore, it would follow that the dealer was unable to offer this type of solution to the owner of the vehicle. Some states have additional restrictions for "servicing" dealers that can handcuff a repair of this type in those states.
Most techs that work in a dealership, and the service writers, are honest, and genuinely want to repair the vehicles they work on the best way possible, at a decent time frame, and the least cost to the owner. The dealer principals, however, are sometimes a completely different story, and restrict their service departments in order to maximize their profits. Service work and used car sales is where the dealerships get their cash flow. It's what supports the dealership in between the new car sales.
Had basically the same problem on a 2005 element. The tank cost was 800 . The hose actuall could be replaced easily but they didn't sell it. Replaced with fuel hose.
In my country we use r134a in yf systems, I know America is different but it doesn't hurt the system, just make sure all the yf is removed from the system
Had the same issue with rodents chewed up non replaceable non removable plastic evap line on Hyundai. Just tightly wrapped it with high quality tape. Was good for another ten years.
I've often thought Ivan could do with a battery and mains operated QuickJack in his garage or yard and then use battery when out in the field if needed. 👍
I got a notice from Honda for extended warranty on my condenser. 2020 Civic.
That's so crazy price just to replace junk parts lol. At least you fixed it by band aid it. At least no more evap leak. But as for R1234yf is so stupid expensive, no thanks lol
Nice repair Ivan. Due to all the sue happy nut cases out there, I can somewhat understand why the dealership’s can’t do these simple repair’s, or even explain to the customer how it could easily be remedied. 👍👍🇺🇸
I'm a Autel fanboy, and I love my TopDon TopScan
Paid $88 for the dongle and updates are $49yr
As you add more makes, you pay more
Anyone that is considering buying one of the Topdon dongles to use with your smartphone, I'd highly recommend buying one of those small OBD2 extension cables. You can leave the cable plugged into the dongle, and then all the wear and tear is on the cable itself from being plugged and unplugged into OBD ports. Just my advice.
Looked at that topdon but you have to pay annual fee for the good features
Topdon has 2 versions of that bluetooth scanner. The basic version for $50+ with some bidirectional controls with a $50 a year subscription or the pro version for $100 with more bidirectional controls and injector coding with a $100 a year subscription.
New refrigerant caused failure of major A/C components. Honda has a recall and 10 yr extended warranty in place. Had an evaporator dealer replaced N/C.
whoa ! evaporator on a late model honda? what year? That is a disaster longterm bcuz evap jobs are usually one of the most expensive jobs in entire car! holy mole!!!
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I use my matco a/c sniffer and it works great for 1234. I have also replaced gas tank for a line like that. I recommend repair, but shop wants $
My ac condenser had a super tiny leak! The dealer said it took a long time to find it. I knew something was up when my ac didn’t blow cool air coming from both vents or any vents for the matter. I had to argue my case with them because my VIN wasn’t one of those in the recall. Once I brought it back a 2nd time lo and behold that’s when they found the leak and got it replaced under warranty. Things like this shouldn’t break for a car under 100k. My car at that time only had around 40-50k miles. I have a ‘18 accord too but the sport 2.0t. Another major issue was the front wheel bearing was defective and I didn’t even hit anything so that was replaced under warranty too. Honda has definitely gone down in quality.. next time I’m buying a Toyota for long time reliability primarily the ones with the J in the vin so I know it’s manufactured in Japan.
I figured the R1234a would detect it since it detects every other thing like the air we breathe. I'm just glad all manufacturers install dye in their systems now.
My wife's 16 RAV4 needed a new condenser at 7 years of age. It became a tetley tea bag
I have the Topdon Topscan Pro and if I'm not mistaken, the evap testing is under the OBDII menu.
Shrader valves on AC systems are a leakage point. Have Replaced many for that reason.
I filled my r1234yf F150 up with r134a like 3 years ago.
Actually improving your entire System, #1 It's not Flammable like the New YF💩, Stupid Government Mandated madness is making all new Cars 💩. Trump 2024.
@@volvo09 same performance?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics yep, I notice no difference. I refused to pay the absurd price, plus I'm just a DIY'er.
From what I remember I had to charge it with less, like 1/3 less
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ivan.. ap call3d 'refrigerant slider" -- it shows all the relevant temperatures and pressures of all the different refrigerants. It's super handy. You can use it to compare replacements and compatibility of different refrigerants.
Yep.. it should work fine. The "refrigerant slider" appl^cation shows that r134a at 40' is around 35psi.. and r1234yf at 40' is around 38psi.. So practically the same; so it should work just fine. Where as r410a at 40' is 118psi.. so it wouldn't work. r290 (propane) at 40' is 63psi.. so it probably wouldn't work well either. "refrigerant slider'-- it's so useful.
Another good tip is stop filling the tank all the way to the top of the filler neck ! Go one click and thats it ! Prob the #1 cause of purge valve and cannister failures ! 👆
Out of the top ten independent shops in the nation, the average shop bill was $900 to $1400. I read that in Motor Magazine or Motorage over 15 years ago!
Dealerships charge more than that.
Ivan needs a lift ❤I pray you get one, maybe used? Call a company named SARS. Near Philly. I bought a used drive on rack from them, good service and install!
It's funny how the owner had to bring the car to you and you had to find out on a Honda enthusiast forum about the warranty replacement instead of the dealer letting them know when the car was already in for work. Or you know, Honda reaching out. You'd think with all these car brands keeping these vehicles constantly connected for "system updates" they'd be able to let you know through the infotainment system about recalls and warranty programs.
They dont get much to do it
So why replace something that isnt being complained about
Pretty sure there was no complaint about no ac when it was at the dealer. Extended policy warranty covers defects beyond the factory warranty when there is a failure. I had a customer bring me her vehicle outside of work with a failed engine. I did a little research and found it may be covered by the manufacturer and let her know. Told her to find all maintenance records and then call dealer with vin number and ask them. 3 months later she finally got a new engine installed no charge.
The infotainment data mining, data sales is the manufacturers side gig, nothing more. Ohhhhh huh, this car frequents this route and stops at these businesses. Hmmm, we see a pattern and it's worth money.
When you started using that AC sniffer my dog thought the alien ships were touchin down...
Nice repair Ivan! If memory serves 1234YF is available for DIYers at my local Advanced Auto Parts. And yes, it is three times the cost of R134a.
Up here in Canada they have the 1234Yf cans. When you read the description on back, it says 1234YFhc. It is an equivalent not exact. Had a customer that diy charged their car. My YF machine detector failed it. Virgin YF won't.
The launch thinktool is the best Bluetooth dongle scanner
Ivan!!!!! Check out the John eagle collision case. That will help explain why dealerships sell the kit and kaboodle.
Yes dealerships charges are quite a bit but their operational overhead is considerably higher than yours.
Just made MacGyver very proud!!
UGH! Give me my horse and carriage. I'm tired of all this computer stuff. I just need to get to the market.
Ivan Rocks.
Go PHAD!
I have the same top scan . Try evap on obd/eobd . Also mode 6 comes up in obd
Love the idea of the Top Don. But should be noted there is a yearly subscription
Does it stop working after the first year, or does it just stop updating the software. I sent mine back for a refund.
@@1768ify sorry don’t know. I’m not a fan of subscriptions so didn’t buy it.
@@s3w349 All of the big scanners require yearly subscriptions to keep they updated. You can still use them though. They just won't have current information if you don't update.
You're correct in saying Stealerships cannot repair outside the box. If the individual part is not available (hose) then they replace the next higher assembly. They claim it's a Liability Issue to do "Outside the Box" common sense repairs. Meanwhile the customer takes it in the rear with a exorbitant repair cost.
Ivan: Thank you for the great videos!
My sons Honda Civic had the exact same issue with the condenser, Had to wait for the dealer to get one in stock, According to the dealer they were going through them like a newborn goes through diapers.
You, my friend, need a lift. Keep up the good work!
My experience with dealers for the last 10 years is every fix is for completely new parts. Broken wire? Entire new wiring harness. Leaking fuel line? Entire new fuel line - not just replace part that is broken but rather entirely new.
Ivan why didn’t you just use Leak Ender on Tubbing ?😮 Your fix was very good to.😊
That was awesome. I would have made a big complicated line item description for the silicon splice and charged customer 50 cents.
Wait the schrader valves are leaking. The sniffer should stay quiet right?
The ac is covered under a warranty extension for condenser and ac shaft seal leaks
They do say not to use r-134a sniffer on the r-1234yf systems due to r-1234yf is somewhat flammable. Not sure exactley what the 134a sniffer does that could cause that to be an issue. I do know our 1234yf sniffer seems to detect refrigerant in the open air no where near a vehicle but cant seem to find a leak unless it large enough to see with dye and a black light. Hate those things.