@@CinematicLaboratory a frequency shifter shifts frequencies. If you shift a signal by 100hz then all frequencies in your signal get shifted by 100 Hz. Pitch is all about relationships so instead of shifting you scale the frequencies which preserves the mathematical ratios between them. Think about what happens to a saw wave's harmonics if you shift vs scale its frequencies.
@@Bestmann3n I understand what you mean now. But for me, a pitch input is just an exponential FM input and ratios are more in the control voltage field to allow for octaves and semitones. And even when feeding 1V/Oct your pitch can still be shifted depending on the tuning of the VCO (in frequency). I don't understand what shifting a saw will do with it's harmonics except they'll follow to still qualify as a saw.
@@Bestmann3n Maybe we can agree to Pitch is what controls the frequency that comes out and Shift is what alters it afterwards, regardless of the original pitch. But still, when I shift into an harmonic relationship, the shift and the pitch are again closely related. I am still not convinced.
@@CinematicLaboratory ok let me give you another example. let's say you have two tones playing: an A at 440 and another A at 880. As you know doubling the frequency is perceived by us humans as going up one octave in pitch. Now let's say we shift the frequencies of this signal by 60hz. Then our two tones become 500hz and 940hz, but now we've lost the octave relationship between them, so we get dissonance instead of consonance. Let's say we scale our frequencies instead, by roughly 1.14, then we get 500hz and 1000hz and the harmonic relationship between our tones stay the same. If you shift the frequencies of a saw it stops being a saw.
i have the koszalin but i don't think i'm using it to it's full potential. it's great for "endless phasing" and creating a soft stereo patch out of a mono source, but i have yet to find out how to tame its wilder sounds to make them usable for music.
No, it is much better than e560. It is fully stereo, it has greatly shaped scale with very precise setting arround zero. And it has the additional density function which brings a huge difference. A wet/dry mix is not needed, for the same reason filters don’t have them
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didn't know I needed one until now
Just got mine today and came straight to your video. :)
Koszalin is such a "secret weapon" module. Been loving it. Great video!
Yup! Got mine last year 🎶 Wonderful thing
Yours is quite an inspiring video! Now let me get back to my Koszalin, I need to try out stuff 😂
Keep up the good work!
you got it!
YEAH! Thanks for showing me the good stuff!
Long-listed. There are a few Xaos modules ahead of this in the queue. And Buchla/TipTop modules too…
"Happy accidents"... it sounds.
Want!
Ugh, damn Jed Eye!
💛
I just got one today, so I was safe from your Jedi Mind tricks.
Yeah, these tricks never work...
it's a frequency shifter so it literally shifts the frequencies, not the pitch.
And then you tell me what the difference is between pitch, wavelength and frequency...
@@CinematicLaboratory a frequency shifter shifts frequencies. If you shift a signal by 100hz then all frequencies in your signal get shifted by 100 Hz. Pitch is all about relationships so instead of shifting you scale the frequencies which preserves the mathematical ratios between them. Think about what happens to a saw wave's harmonics if you shift vs scale its frequencies.
@@Bestmann3n I understand what you mean now. But for me, a pitch input is just an exponential FM input and ratios are more in the control voltage field to allow for octaves and semitones. And even when feeding 1V/Oct your pitch can still be shifted depending on the tuning of the VCO (in frequency). I don't understand what shifting a saw will do with it's harmonics except they'll follow to still qualify as a saw.
@@Bestmann3n Maybe we can agree to Pitch is what controls the frequency that comes out and Shift is what alters it afterwards, regardless of the original pitch. But still, when I shift into an harmonic relationship, the shift and the pitch are again closely related. I am still not convinced.
@@CinematicLaboratory ok let me give you another example. let's say you have two tones playing: an A at 440 and another A at 880. As you know doubling the frequency is perceived by us humans as going up one octave in pitch. Now let's say we shift the frequencies of this signal by 60hz. Then our two tones become 500hz and 940hz, but now we've lost the octave relationship between them, so we get dissonance instead of consonance. Let's say we scale our frequencies instead, by roughly 1.14, then we get 500hz and 1000hz and the harmonic relationship between our tones stay the same. If you shift the frequencies of a saw it stops being a saw.
i have the koszalin but i don't think i'm using it to it's full potential. it's great for "endless phasing" and creating a soft stereo patch out of a mono source, but i have yet to find out how to tame its wilder sounds to make them usable for music.
Ping it, its a great drum too!
What exactly is going on there 4:05-4:25 with the buchla?
you forget everything;-)
I don't remember. Are you referring to me or is it your personal experience?
its a pitty it doesnt have dry/wet. you need a crossfader to make this. i think deflector shield e560 is a better option. dont you think so?
I am sorry. I am not aware of the e560. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@CinematicLaboratorysynthesis technology is an awesome company!
No, it is much better than e560. It is fully stereo, it has greatly shaped scale with very precise setting arround zero. And it has the additional density function which brings a huge difference. A wet/dry mix is not needed, for the same reason filters don’t have them
And under no whatsoever circumstances feed Koszalin into the Sends and Returns of Deva……
Shiftor?
Yes, it says so on the panel...