I can't believe there are people legitimately surprised they are this bad. How did you all get so easily duped? BB the GM has absolutely brutalized the offensive side of the ball, as he can't draft skilled players and he doesn't want to make the splashy wideouts FA signing; our great o-line play is long gone, and it continues to deteriorate with each passing game. It's an absolute dumpster fire, and BB the GM has made this mess.
Its because Mike Felger knows that his shows success depends on the success of the teams in the area. If the teams blow, then no one listens. Add on top of that these fools have no idea what they're talking about. I remember listening when they were saying that Vegas odds relating to the patriot win totals were too low and wanting to scream at the radio.
@@embracerodusk2537 In hindsight, you’re probably right. As much success and enjoyment I’ve had as a fan of this team, the season that I will never get over is 2006. They gave Brady nothing on offense and they lost a heartbreaker to the Colts in the AFC Championship. They beat that Bears team easily.
@@fatpatlives1998Malcom Butler? We're talking 10 years ago lol Bill hasn't done anything since Brady. How much more do you need to see that it was Brady always? Bill is too old he hasn't evolved. He hasn't realized it's about fast wr and rbs. He hasn't realized you need to either Pay a good QB or draft a good prospect. Mac was never a good prospect
I laugh how Felger says “i wanted a season” this is a guy who when Brady was on the team said he wanted him gone because the winning was boring now he’s saying “I wanted a season” 🥴🥴🥴
Ya typical media They don't really care about anything Just a story And I remember that too He was saying he wanted the pats to be bad because it would be a good story. that's why I gave up on sports it's worse than wrestling now
Yes, media (sports, news, financial etc) needs your eyes and ears to make money. They have a product to sell and they make the most money by selling FUD: fear, uncertainty and doubt. "If you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
Agreed. I had predicted 5-12 going into the season because I saw this offensive mess coming, but never in my wildest nightmare did I expect Belichick to suddenly become a terrible coach, Bill O'Brien to be even worse than Patricia, and the bottom of the defense to fall out before Columbus Day. My worry now is that we won't be able to out-suck the likes of Carolina, Arizona, and the Giants and we'll be stuck picking 5th and miss out on the top QBs and Marvin Harrison Jr.
@@cmd31220 Keep in mind the Pats play the Broncos and Giants this season. It would help if they lose those games and improve their draft capital. The Giants just gave an extension to Daniel Jones this past off-season. So, I don't think they'll be in the market for a QB. The Broncos, you need to worry about. Russell Wilson blows, and they will draft a QB in April.
@@cityofthechamps6242 WITH THE FIRST PICK IN THE 2024 NFL DRAFT, THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS TRADE DOWN. BECAUSE THERE SO #UCKIN CHEAP. AND TAKE BUM @UCK JOE FROM MONTANA STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 🐵🐒🐒🐒🐒☺😚🤔🤨😐😏🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
It has to get this bad to make changes. Bill had his shot the past few years to rebuild. It’s been unsuccessful. They have finally hit rock bottom and it’s time to start over with a clean slate. Wether you want them to tank or not they are bad enough that they will. The years of middling and looking to get better while not making the playoffs/also not getting good draft capital are over. Its better this happened sooner then drag it out more.
Our season has been so bad that felger called one of our lineman Riley Reid, not the same type of gap to fill but at this point I understand the confusion
Drafting a number one quarterback next year isn’t gonna do you a hell of a lot of good if Bill Belichick is still the head coach. He’s going to ruin another top 10 pick. That quarterback is going to be a waste.
....you think Caleb Williams is gonna say "I'll go to the patriots" if they snag the #1 pick and BB is still the coach (knowing Bob Kraft won't fire him and how far back he's set Mac Jones' career & development?) considering he's already stated he was willing to go back to USC the right situation didn't come his way come next April? 😂.....BB fired or resigns and a forward thinking offensive head coach & new staff takes his place? Different conversation...
@VanquishedAgain you honestly think BB wanted to draft Mac Jones after Cam Newton? (That had ownership written all over it)....but on the topic of bad 1st round picks....Cole Strange (Ahem..sure got a chuckle from his colleagues on that one)....Isiah Wynn...N'keal Harry? Belichick hasn't been able to draft period in at least a dozen years....(as a rising star like Caleb Williams ) am I supposed to feel pumped and excited that if I get drafted by this jackwagon #1 that this guy is gonna be able to identify talent enough to put me in a position to succeed right away if I'm thrown into the fire the same way Tua is......or at least have solid pros to learn behind if I sit a year (Mahomes learning from Alex Smith)...ummmm.....I can't......and as far as Mac's personality? Can you blame him for getting this point? 1st year he did make a "fake pro bowl" under McDaniels....so while here there was people capable of developing him.....when those people left and BB thought he was smarter than everyone else (hiring Patricia/Judge....letting Myers go...bringing in JuJu)....and not allowing another forward thinking offensive mind to Mac to the next step.....it's a guarantee Jones (while he wouldn't be on a TB12 trajectory because few have that maniacal competitive mindset) wouldn't be the train wreck he is now....(and might POSSIBLY be a free agent destination if he showed aptitude and growth at the qb position more than just being known for going at Sauce's nads and having bad pocket awareness)🤦♂️
I was so angry at that phantom call. I was so happy when the Patriots still lost. LOL. I'm a huge Pats fan, but I've been angry at them for not sticking with TB until he retired. I can't wait for new blood in the coaching position. BB has a terrible record without TB, and the Patriots just keep getting worse, week after week. That's a coaching issue, not simply a player issue.
We should rejoice in them being as unambiguously bad as possible. It's the middling mediocrity to fear. Action now is a foregone conclusion, and we want action.
It started back in 2005. Kraft forced Scott Pioli to "share" GM Powers with Belichick. Belichick than botched up the 2005, 2006, and 2007 Draft Classes. It's why Scott Pioli wanted to leave in 2009, and then did.
Forget it. It was over when it started. Too much hope for nothing. Why on earth did bill keep Mac in there for so long. He totally ruined it all. The fans will not show up Sunday. It will be a half filled park
Yea they have one of the. Best receivers in the league and a satisfactory backup that used to play for the Patriots. It's weird, at least when other teams are had they still have some exciting players and plays. The Patriots just keep doing their nickel and dime boring plays that made sense when you had to brady and you know that it would lead to the playoffs. But now... What's the point
Remember when Felger was saying before this stretch of the schedule that these games (Saints & Raiders) were easy "get rights" for the patriots. I don't know what he saw in this team or qb to say something like that. Both those teams are better than the patriots. Better Qbs especially.
He didn't really believe in it deep down, he just tried to talk it into existence bc he needs the ratings from the team being relevant. Dude is a carpetbagger fraud.
Looking forward to having the number 1 overall pick and trading down to pick up an offensive guard. We are letting Bill’s ego run this team into the ground. Stuff that worked 20 years ago doesn’t automatically still work now. It’s a shame it has to end like this but he needs to be put on the scrap heap
It got this bad because they've drafted poorly and made terrible decisions in FA. Thats all on BB the GM, who needed to be fired three years ago, alas.
@@georgen5882Belichick is 1-11 vs Tua and Josh Allen since Brady left. And that one win came with the most absurd weather conditions that could have possibly affected a game. It’s pretty much a guaranteed loss for Bill against Miami and Buffalo if their qbs play.
I am enjoying this immensely. The patriots have returned to being complete trash. I used to abhor Mondays but now that I get to listen to all the pampered pat fans whine and cry after another loss is great.
BASICALLY Adolph Bellicheck's Gestapo way of coaching has not RESONATED with this New Generation of NFL players. He doesn't have TB 12 as a bridge to the team.
It's true, we always hear the reason belichicks assistants fail is because that style of coaching only works when you're winning. Now the patriots are in that boat for the first time
Thank the owner for being the cheapest owner in the leage. He won't spend on players and staff, but expects the team to be good? Then he gets involved with the draft and drafts Mac and forces him on Bill and the team? Plus being too cheap to give Brady a contract? Kraft is the reason this team sucks, Kraft is the reason we're stuck with Mac, Kraft is probably the reason Macs still starting if he won't let Bill sit Mac
While some of what you say might be true from a money standpoint, you can’t ignore that Belichick is the coach and GM of this team. All personnel decisions go through him. Plus it’s hard to say Kraft won’t spend when they spent what, like 150 million in free agency three years ago. Bill chose those players, Kraft wrote the check. Kraft might share some blame, but it’s Bill’s inability to identify and draft offensive talent and how he built this team that makes more of a difference right now. This team is a direct reflection of him.
If Kraft trusts Belifraud with the huge amount of cap space they have and a draft rich in offensive talent? If he does....its time for him to step down and hand the keys to Jonathan. He created this monster letting him do whatever he wants.
I got really nervous yesterday because I thought they were going to actually win. They need to do everything and anything to get a top three pick in the draft. Really good quarterbacks coming out in the draft. Let the defense rest and prepare for next season and get a big reset on the O. I really like Bill Belichick but the NFL is just different today. You’re not going to have any more Eli Manning’s or Tom Brady’s
For any person thinking they should keep Bill with a New GM know this, A new GM won't stop Bill from still sabotaging Young players and not playing them. Did yall not learn anything?
He’ll draft Marvin Harrison Jr just to let him walk after his rookie contract and cheap out of paying him. Then he’ll bring in Robert woods to replace him on the vet minimum.
How do you know or have any evidence to back that statement? All I can say is remember the days when we had the Sullivan or Victor Kiam as owners, for that I say thank God for the Kraft. Another data point, all we hear is Kraft wanted keep Brady and the main reason why he left was you know who. If Belichick is gone and we continues to not spend then maybe you have something there. I see mostly an owner who wants to win, not sure about the validity of them the being cheap accusation coming from.
Boy, Davante Parker has really been not good this season for the Pats. With the Dolphins, Parker was for a time our number one wide receiver. In fact, back in 2019 when the Dolphins played the Pats the last regular season game of 2019 (which the Dolphins shockingly won at Foxboro with Fitzmagic as QB), Parker destroyed cornerback Stephon Gilmore with like 4 amazing catches, and Gilmore in 2019, was one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Parker wasn’t as good in 2020 or 2021 with Phins, but he was still halfway decent. I wonder if he’s been playing with a nagging injury this season with the Pats to account for his slow speed and inability to separate. Belichick extended Parker’s contract too, so he’ll be a Patriot for the next 2 years (unless he gets released for consistently poor play).
I’m a dolphins fan- I watched for 20 yrs my team get embarrassed by the patriots- So long as u have Bill u aren’t going anywhere- It was Brady not Bill- never won anything w/o Tom
The fact that Bills and Dolphins fans are hoping Belichick sticks around for as long as possible in New England is a complete reflection of the coach he is without Brady. Absolutely nobody fears the pats without Tom. Bill is just another guy.
@@mattbedrosian5298 Actually I’m a fins fan- and I want him out- I like competition- Bellichek has never sniffed a playoff without the Goat- I hated when people compare him to Shula.
SAY IT WITH ME: 20 years of success..."because of Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr." Bill sucked BEFORE and AFTER. Bill is a terrible coach without Brady and LT. The two best players ever.
On one play V. love had his hands batted away by the DE (Crosby?) and he ended up face planting while the defender continued unimpeded. Hand slap = face plant. Pats lineman. Shame.
It’s the O-Line. That’s the problem. You people keep saying the O-Line stinks, but then don’t realize the root cause of all the problems of the offense. You people just want drama & want to keep talking about firing Bill.
There are real people out there who actually thought Bill was more responsible for the dynasty. It’s quite hilarious. He’s Todd Bowles without Brady, good defensive coordinator, awful head coach.
They'll get 5 wins which will keep them out of getting either of the top QBs in the draft. Unless they trade Belichick to the Bears for their 1st rounder.
@@DavidBarton777LOL. The true pocket passer statue is in the past. QBs like Mahomes/Allen/Hurts/Herbert are what teams want. Mobile+ QBs with cannons. You’re either clueless or 75
@@DavidBarton777SAY IT WITH ME: 20 years of success..."because of Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr." Bill sucked BEFORE and AFTER. Bill is a terrible coach without Brady and LT. The two best players ever. Mac has thrown more pick 6s in 3 seasons at Gilette than Brady did in 20 years, let that sink in 😂😂😂😂 Mac is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. Weakest arm of ANY starter in the NFL by far. BAD decision maker/low football iq. No mobility. Panics. Bad leadership. Dirty, kids players in the nuts. Coaches don't like him. Teammates dont respect him. Mac fanboys: BRING HIM BACK NEXT SEASON!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 Comparing Mac to Brady is like comparing four wooden wheels to a Bugatti. Mac is 70% of the reason the Patriots are a mess. Cam Newton was a BETTER QB! Yes. I said it. Cam at least wasn't ACTIVELY scoring points for the other team every week and he helped the offensive line by being able to run so defenses had to stay honest on RPOs and play action. Mac's NUMBER ONE THING was his supposed brain. But in 3 seasons, starting halfway through his rookie year, he's been a dumb player. Taking bad sacks. Throwing across his body. Late on throws. Missing reads DOWN THE MIDDLE. His preference for shotgun also negates the teams ability to play traditional play-action/run-action because it's much harder to run play action out of shotgun and the efficiency metrics prove it. Mac is a LIABILITY fellas! Trash, Trash, TRASH QB who throws at LEAST 4 interceptable passes per game. If the Raiders could catch, they'd have 3 interceptions of mac on Sunday. GARBAGE QB. And he's a dirty player. Ew. WORSE than the worst version of Cam Newton (and that's saying something). Zappe Career Passer Rating > Mac Noodles CryBaby Jones Career Passer Rating FACT
I think the rebuild should start now. Belicheck has to go immediately, and the organisation appoints a new coach, even a transitional coach, to begin regaining confidence of the players. Accept a losing season, and prepare for next season. Time to stop whining and get to it
Felger hates Bill, Bill is an eccentric guy, he’s taken a lot of flack from idiots like Felger. Bill has made some personnel mistakes, but he’s also had some good draft picks. The injuries have devastated this team. But if I had to pick the better human being it wouldn’t be Felger!!
BB the coach every bit as complicit as Bill the GM. In his tenure with the team, a litany of strange coaching decisions, bad clock management, head-scratching and unexplained/outright stubborn benchings, and pushing out the greatest player in the sport's history. Was never actually the GOAT coach, just had the GOAT player and garbage decisions on both sides of the job by The Hoodie have left the team in shambles. Time to start over. And a real start over, not lip service.
This is wild to witness. Belichick has turned this once feared organization into a comedy. His ability to draft on the offensive side is non existent and will end up ruining Mac's career......he has no weapons.
I dont know how you people got threw the years they were without brady and bledsoe. Give me a break you all talk like all you knew was brady, give me a break. The season is definitely over and bill may well be done. But it is what it is at this point.
I don't get the hate. Try being a Bears fan or a Lions fan for a while. Decade after decade of poor play, poor drafting, poor player development. Patriots fans are just delusional to think that a two decade run can be sustained forever. Even the Packers drifted through entire decades with bad teams. The truth is that there are more teams (and games) than there is talent. Even well run teams will have these down times just due to that alone. Add in that no one in their right mind would want to live in Mass, CT, RI, NY, or even NJ....
SAY IT WITH ME: 20 years of success..."because of Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr." Bill sucked BEFORE and AFTER. Bill is a terrible coach without Brady and LT. The two best players ever.
Patriots at the Top today the league for 2 decades. They have 1 horrendously bad season and the fanbase starts crying like they’ve been at this since the 90’s….y’all get a potential franchise changing QB in exchange for 1 season of misery. God shut up and be thankful.
Sounds like a typical 98.5 assessment. Tom brady is not walking through that door again. Welcome to an average football team. Things will get better. Firing Bill won't do a thing.
Look at what Bill has done with 1st round draft picks.. 2014:dominque Easily 2015: macolm brown 2016/2017: nobody 2018: sony michel 2019: nkeel harry 2020: nobody 2021: mac jones 2022: cole strange 2023: christian Gonzalez Nothing but BUSTS. Christian gonzalez did good sure, but im not going to say he's good after 3 games and getting hurt. Sony Michel? Yeah he was okay but a RB???? Bill has failed drafting at every position. Idc if he gets lucky on mid-late round picks. Pure bust of a drafter
They need to tank/bottom out. Another "moral victories" season is dumb. This team has to completely reset. They have to get a new GM as well as a new offensive minded head coach. They have to tank so that they can get one of the premier QBs in this draft (Williams, Maye, Pennix, Nix) The time for moral victories is over. Now it's time to hit the reset button...
I think there is a conscious going that says we are tired of Felger...lol He can not be satisfied with any star sports figures in Boston. He even denounced Brady in the past. Now he is all over BB one of the best coaches in all of football. He literally throws dirt in his face. I guess you think it's all Bill's fault that we have underperforming players. Well, you need to include Mac Jones because he is far from a franchise quarterback that a Boston Sports team needs and yes especially coming in behind Brady. I will put it this way..." I think I could replace a Mac Jones QB position, But it would be dam hard to find a head coach replacement for Bill B." Even if Mac had a superior offensive line, I don't think his talent level fits, and his emotional stability and sense of control are sort of off and questionable. So just tell me Mr. Felger...and stop hiding behind the "Start Over Theory"...Who is your pick for the next Head coach for our winning franchise here that is better than Bill B? We are about winning here and a winning franchise always has a winning QB that takes us there. No matter the GM/coach. Bill Stays and Mac Goes!
Mac has zero talent around him. he's not playing well, but he's not in a position to succeed. Bill has not shown over two full decades that he can develop an offensive skill player. he hasn't done it a single time. if you want to just coast on past accomplishments, than you're a loser. Belichick was the first person to cut a guy the second he could no longer deliver.. He should get the same treatment.
I can't believe there are people legitimately surprised they are this bad. How did you all get so easily duped? BB the GM has absolutely brutalized the offensive side of the ball, as he can't draft skilled players and he doesn't want to make the splashy wideouts FA signing; our great o-line play is long gone, and it continues to deteriorate with each passing game. It's an absolute dumpster fire, and BB the GM has made this mess.
And it started years ago.
Its because Mike Felger knows that his shows success depends on the success of the teams in the area. If the teams blow, then no one listens. Add on top of that these fools have no idea what they're talking about. I remember listening when they were saying that Vegas odds relating to the patriot win totals were too low and wanting to scream at the radio.
I kind of lean towards thinking if they actually had a better GM, Brady would have won a few more than he did even. lol
@@embracerodusk2537 In hindsight, you’re probably right. As much success and enjoyment I’ve had as a fan of this team, the season that I will never get over is 2006. They gave Brady nothing on offense and they lost a heartbreaker to the Colts in the AFC Championship. They beat that Bears team easily.
Started years ago, and Tom blanketed his mistakes.
It’s over and now Kraft needs to fire him, this team was so poorly built, all his fault.
The elephant in the room is BB. Even if we get first overall BB would at best gets us another N'Keal Harry on offense as GM. 😂
Bill can't draft Wrs we get it....but I loved the gonzalez pick I think he will work out
@fatpatlives1998 BB is great at defense, drafting defense and picking up diamond's in the rough on both sides.
@@ginob615 I agree with that...especially on defense J.C Jackson and Malcom butler come to mind
@@fatpatlives1998Malcom Butler? We're talking 10 years ago lol Bill hasn't done anything since Brady. How much more do you need to see that it was Brady always? Bill is too old he hasn't evolved. He hasn't realized it's about fast wr and rbs. He hasn't realized you need to either Pay a good QB or draft a good prospect. Mac was never a good prospect
@@smithnwesson990Mac was the last guy on the board and thirsty pats fans and media just hyped him up.
Dude if the JETS actually had a QB the Pats would be 0-6
Bill needs to retire come end of the year, before he gets fired
He wants the all time win record
I laugh how Felger says “i wanted a season” this is a guy who when Brady was on the team said he wanted him gone because the winning was boring now he’s saying “I wanted a season” 🥴🥴🥴
Ya typical media
They don't really
care about anything
Just a story
And I remember that too
He was saying he wanted the pats to be bad because it would be a good story. that's why I gave up on sports it's worse than wrestling now
He’s a fraud thought Mac and the team were good guy is lost. Thought it was more Bill than Brady dude needs to educate himself.
Yes, media (sports, news, financial etc) needs your eyes and ears to make money. They have a product to sell and they make the most money by selling FUD: fear, uncertainty and doubt. "If you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
9 years since drafting an offensive player worth a damn
I thought it was pretty obvious Patriots were the worst team in the division. Didn’t think they would be the worst team in the NFL though.
Agreed. I had predicted 5-12 going into the season because I saw this offensive mess coming, but never in my wildest nightmare did I expect Belichick to suddenly become a terrible coach, Bill O'Brien to be even worse than Patricia, and the bottom of the defense to fall out before Columbus Day.
My worry now is that we won't be able to out-suck the likes of Carolina, Arizona, and the Giants and we'll be stuck picking 5th and miss out on the top QBs and Marvin Harrison Jr.
@@cmd31220If they end up at 5 they better start acquiring draft capital now to move ahead. We also pray that those teams win more games down the line
@@cmd31220 Keep in mind the Pats play the Broncos and Giants this season. It would help if they lose those games and improve their draft capital. The Giants just gave an extension to Daniel Jones this past off-season. So, I don't think they'll be in the market for a QB. The Broncos, you need to worry about. Russell Wilson blows, and they will draft a QB in April.
Bills 54 patriots 7. Biills play 3rd string players after the first quarter.
lolol nah zappe comes in and beats josh allen after being down 2 scores
@@cityofthechamps6242 WITH THE FIRST PICK IN THE 2024 NFL DRAFT, THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS TRADE DOWN. BECAUSE THERE SO #UCKIN CHEAP. AND TAKE BUM @UCK JOE FROM MONTANA STATE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 🐵🐒🐒🐒🐒☺😚🤔🤨😐😏🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
It has to get this bad to make changes. Bill had his shot the past few years to rebuild. It’s been unsuccessful. They have finally hit rock bottom and it’s time to start over with a clean slate. Wether you want them to tank or not they are bad enough that they will. The years of middling and looking to get better while not making the playoffs/also not getting good draft capital are over. Its better this happened sooner then drag it out more.
No one wants to play for Belichick.
@@MikeJones-rk1un100 percent made up. Stop talking.
Cheap Robby Kraft and Bill searching for value and playing football like it's the 1960's. Done. 1 and 16 here we come.
Our season has been so bad that felger called one of our lineman Riley Reid, not the same type of gap to fill but at this point I understand the confusion
Hoodie done
If BB says he may leave, nobody would try to stop him. There is no reason for one more season. Patriots need to REALLY start over.
Drafting a number one quarterback next year isn’t gonna do you a hell of a lot of good if Bill Belichick is still the head coach. He’s going to ruin another top 10 pick. That quarterback is going to be a waste.
....you think Caleb Williams is gonna say "I'll go to the patriots" if they snag the #1 pick and BB is still the coach (knowing Bob Kraft won't fire him and how far back he's set Mac Jones' career & development?) considering he's already stated he was willing to go back to USC the right situation didn't come his way come next April? 😂.....BB fired or resigns and a forward thinking offensive head coach & new staff takes his place? Different conversation...
Mac Jones is a bad QB. You can blame Bill for wasting a pick on him but he's a bad QB, he has a bad personality and a low ceiling.
@VanquishedAgain you honestly think BB wanted to draft Mac Jones after Cam Newton? (That had ownership written all over it)....but on the topic of bad 1st round picks....Cole Strange (Ahem..sure got a chuckle from his colleagues on that one)....Isiah Wynn...N'keal Harry? Belichick hasn't been able to draft period in at least a dozen years....(as a rising star like Caleb Williams ) am I supposed to feel pumped and excited that if I get drafted by this jackwagon #1 that this guy is gonna be able to identify talent enough to put me in a position to succeed right away if I'm thrown into the fire the same way Tua is......or at least have solid pros to learn behind if I sit a year (Mahomes learning from Alex Smith)...ummmm.....I can't......and as far as Mac's personality? Can you blame him for getting this point? 1st year he did make a "fake pro bowl" under McDaniels....so while here there was people capable of developing him.....when those people left and BB thought he was smarter than everyone else (hiring Patricia/Judge....letting Myers go...bringing in JuJu)....and not allowing another forward thinking offensive mind to Mac to the next step.....it's a guarantee Jones (while he wouldn't be on a TB12 trajectory because few have that maniacal competitive mindset) wouldn't be the train wreck he is now....(and might POSSIBLY be a free agent destination if he showed aptitude and growth at the qb position more than just being known for going at Sauce's nads and having bad pocket awareness)🤦♂️
@@VanquishedAgain Wasting a pick? it was the 15th pick everyone worth taking was already taken? everyone else behind Mac was average
It took NE 9 minutes to get down the field -no sense of urgency at all-and still only scored because of a RTP call.
I was so angry at that phantom call. I was so happy when the Patriots still lost. LOL.
I'm a huge Pats fan, but I've been angry at them for not sticking with TB until he retired. I can't wait for new blood in the coaching position. BB has a terrible record without TB, and the Patriots just keep getting worse, week after week. That's a coaching issue, not simply a player issue.
We should rejoice in them being as unambiguously bad as possible. It's the middling mediocrity to fear. Action now is a foregone conclusion, and we want action.
100% agree. We all worried that we would always be a .500 team and never have a chance at real talent. Now we have a shot.
Robert Kraft first mistake was making bill GM. Bills been making too many senile moves, he has to go.
It started back in 2005. Kraft forced Scott Pioli to "share" GM Powers with Belichick. Belichick than botched up the 2005, 2006, and 2007 Draft Classes. It's why Scott Pioli wanted to leave in 2009, and then did.
Hoodie torched the franchise😢
Should put the shows on live here on UA-cam
I don’t know about this show, but the morning show is on Twitch. That may be why.
@georgen5882 the morning show guys are the worst. Super cringe. They don't even talk sports
A culture of losing is contagious. I know this because I'm a lions fan.
Forget it. It was over when it started. Too much hope for nothing. Why on earth did bill keep Mac in there for so long. He totally ruined it all. The fans will not show up Sunday. It will be a half filled park
I was out 4 years ago when they signed Cam.
Hate to tell these guys. The patriots era been over. Once tom brady jumped ship 😅
That’s the truth
He didn't jump ship. BeliDork never offered him a contract. He PUSHED him out
I think bill is old and lost it...he has pushed everyone with talent away to prove that its all him.
It is all him , hes why they are bad.
As bad as the Raiders may be (I think they are average) they are not in the Patriot's universe when it comes to bad
Yea they have one of the. Best receivers in the league and a satisfactory backup that used to play for the Patriots.
It's weird, at least when other teams are had they still have some exciting players and plays. The Patriots just keep doing their nickel and dime boring plays that made sense when you had to brady and you know that it would lead to the playoffs. But now... What's the point
Agreed@@VanquishedAgain
Remember when Felger was saying before this stretch of the schedule that these games (Saints & Raiders) were easy "get rights" for the patriots. I don't know what he saw in this team or qb to say something like that. Both those teams are better than the patriots. Better Qbs especially.
He likes average QB (idk if Mac is even that) thought they could make the playoffs with Hoyer, he’s clueless
He didn't really believe in it deep down, he just tried to talk it into existence bc he needs the ratings from the team being relevant. Dude is a carpetbagger fraud.
Looking forward to having the number 1 overall pick and trading down to pick up an offensive guard. We are letting Bill’s ego run this team into the ground. Stuff that worked 20 years ago doesn’t automatically still work now. It’s a shame it has to end like this but he needs to be put on the scrap heap
it’s not Bill it’s KRAFT we’re 31st in real spending
It got this bad because they've drafted poorly and made terrible decisions in FA. Thats all on BB the GM, who needed to be fired three years ago, alas.
Yeah and then who do we hire next? you don't know shit dude
They stink, BB clueless and refuses to start a different QB. So, FIRE BELICHICK
Belichick has gotten progressively worse of 3 years.
Before the season started, I thought they could be 0-8. If Rodgers doesn't get hurt, they probably are.
They would at least be 0-6 right with two likely losses coming in the next couple weeks. I just don’t see them beating the bills or the dolphins.
@@georgen5882Belichick is 1-11 vs Tua and Josh Allen since Brady left. And that one win came with the most absurd weather conditions that could have possibly affected a game. It’s pretty much a guaranteed loss for Bill against Miami and Buffalo if their qbs play.
This is wonderful to see for the entirety of the league
Its time for Bill to step down. The game has passed him by. Sign Nick Foles or Matt Ryan.
I am enjoying this immensely. The patriots have returned to being complete trash. I used to abhor Mondays but now that I get to listen to all the pampered pat fans whine and cry after another loss is great.
Had the Pats +3 which looked like a slam dunk but nope, sack in the endzone for a safety. Even when I bet the Patriots to lose I can't win.
Should have just talent Raiders on the money line we all knew they’d lose payout was basically the same. Rookie move
BASICALLY Adolph Bellicheck's Gestapo way of coaching has not RESONATED with this New Generation of NFL players. He doesn't have TB 12 as a bridge to the team.
It's true, we always hear the reason belichicks assistants fail is because that style of coaching only works when you're winning. Now the patriots are in that boat for the first time
Thank the owner for being the cheapest owner in the leage. He won't spend on players and staff, but expects the team to be good? Then he gets involved with the draft and drafts Mac and forces him on Bill and the team? Plus being too cheap to give Brady a contract? Kraft is the reason this team sucks, Kraft is the reason we're stuck with Mac, Kraft is probably the reason Macs still starting if he won't let Bill sit Mac
While some of what you say might be true from a money standpoint, you can’t ignore that Belichick is the coach and GM of this team. All personnel decisions go through him. Plus it’s hard to say Kraft won’t spend when they spent what, like 150 million in free agency three years ago. Bill chose those players, Kraft wrote the check. Kraft might share some blame, but it’s Bill’s inability to identify and draft offensive talent and how he built this team that makes more of a difference right now. This team is a direct reflection of him.
That’s not true Kraft opened his wallet. It was just Bill Belichick spending it was a problem.
Bill Belicheck is the problem.Bill’s the one with the inside track to Bama football.His personnel decisions have run this team into the ground.
@@youtubeconnollyfamilyI agree Belichick is the problem but Kraft is a very tight owner that is a fact
@@youtubeconnollyfamily that literally makes no sense.
If Kraft trusts Belifraud with the huge amount of cap space they have and a draft rich in offensive talent?
If he does....its time for him to step down and hand the keys to Jonathan. He created this monster letting him do whatever he wants.
I got really nervous yesterday because I thought they were going to actually win. They need to do everything and anything to get a top three pick in the draft. Really good quarterbacks coming out in the draft. Let the defense rest and prepare for next season and get a big reset on the O. I really like Bill Belichick but the NFL is just different today. You’re not going to have any more Eli Manning’s or Tom Brady’s
BeliDork SUCKS
Bill will take the #3 pick and trade back to 25 and two fourths then draft a safety
@@theblackflame4002 TOTALLY
@@theblackflame4002Bill will be fired this joke is getting old
I feel bad but I was so happy when Mac got that safety yesterday. Shameless I know, but getting Drake Maye matters more
Drafting another quarterback will do no good. Bill will ruin him.
For any person thinking they should keep Bill with a New GM know this, A new GM won't stop Bill from still sabotaging Young players and not playing them. Did yall not learn anything?
He’ll draft Marvin Harrison Jr just to let him walk after his rookie contract and cheap out of paying him. Then he’ll bring in Robert woods to replace him on the vet minimum.
Bills and Pats will be a very tight game. Field goal… Bills are banged-up and CANNOT stop run.
I’ll be happy to not see anymore Belichek non answers.
This is the ghost of 2008 Buffalo speaking....WELCOME TO HELL!!!
Had Brady for 20 years and now you are bailing? Weak bro
Ahah For people like me knowing it was over when Bill pushed Brady out the door, it's so funny. You wouldn't listen and now you're panicking
Should've picked Tom over Bill. Hindsight's a bitch ain't it?
It’s time to tank! Officially
This is what Buffalo having Dick Jauron as a head coach was like.
Kraft is a terrible owner
It isn’t Kraft it’s Bill now I give you Kraft has to be more engaged as a owner
@@josephjones5955 Kraft is unwilling to spend money. He's throwing Bill under the bus now that Brady is gone
How do you know or have any evidence to back that statement? All I can say is remember the days when we had the Sullivan or Victor Kiam as owners, for that I say thank God for the Kraft. Another data point, all we hear is Kraft wanted keep Brady and the main reason why he left was you know who. If Belichick is gone and we continues to not spend then maybe you have something there. I see mostly an owner who wants to win, not sure about the validity of them the being cheap accusation coming from.
@Ac0ustics0ul he's garbage
@@thep751 why do you think the Patriots coaches got poached year after year? Kraft didn't want to open the pocket book to keep them
*Felger, after 10 minutes just killing the Pats for how badly they suck*: "Can we just spend some time talking about how bad they suck"
Mazz: "Yes"
Boy, Davante Parker has really been not good this season for the Pats. With the Dolphins, Parker was for a time our number one wide receiver. In fact, back in 2019 when the Dolphins played the Pats the last regular season game of 2019 (which the Dolphins shockingly won at Foxboro with Fitzmagic as QB), Parker destroyed cornerback Stephon Gilmore with like 4 amazing catches, and Gilmore in 2019, was one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Parker wasn’t as good in 2020 or 2021 with Phins, but he was still halfway decent. I wonder if he’s been playing with a nagging injury this season with the Pats to account for his slow speed and inability to separate. Belichick extended Parker’s contract too, so he’ll be a Patriot for the next 2 years (unless he gets released for consistently poor play).
Parker had 1 good season, never made a pro bowl, absolutely no reason to give him a contract extension
I’m a dolphins fan- I watched for 20 yrs my team get embarrassed by the patriots- So long as u have Bill u aren’t going anywhere- It was Brady not Bill- never won anything w/o Tom
The fact that Bills and Dolphins fans are hoping Belichick sticks around for as long as possible in New England is a complete reflection of the coach he is without Brady. Absolutely nobody fears the pats without Tom. Bill is just another guy.
@@mattbedrosian5298 Actually I’m a fins fan- and I want him out- I like competition- Bellichek has never sniffed a playoff without the Goat- I hated when people compare him to Shula.
How poetic, the Dynasty dies, and is clear as day, by the very team the dynasty was born from.🏴☠🏴☠🏴☠
Lmao Man get used to losing. it humbles you. They’ll relive the good ole days like us 🤣
Raiders still blaming the tuck rule two decades later. Go fuck yourselves
Mo Lewis 🫡
They’re not even tanking, they legitimately are just horrendous
SAY IT WITH ME:
20 years of success..."because of Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr."
Bill sucked BEFORE and AFTER. Bill is a terrible coach without Brady and LT. The two best players ever.
Before the beginning of season I checked their schedule. I immediately said five wins😮😢
We're all done! 😡
What ever happened to, "in Bill we trust?" 😂😂😂
Without Brady, BB is a loser, it’s just facts
On one play V. love had his hands batted away by the DE (Crosby?) and he ended up face planting while the defender continued unimpeded. Hand slap = face plant. Pats lineman. Shame.
The avg patriot fan could draft better ol ,wrs than belichick has recently
It’s kinda like your back in 80’s-90’s guess the fans of the patriots from 03-2021 we don’t have to hear from anymore lol thank god.
It’s the O-Line. That’s the problem. You people keep saying the O-Line stinks, but then don’t realize the root cause of all the problems of the offense. You people just want drama & want to keep talking about firing Bill.
Patriots would have won 10 super bowls if Andy Reid was here with Brady.
I’d fire Belichick for the fact that he refuses to play Boutte. I’d release Parker today. He sucks.
Welcome to life after Brady.
There are real people out there who actually thought Bill was more responsible for the dynasty. It’s quite hilarious. He’s Todd Bowles without Brady, good defensive coordinator, awful head coach.
They'll get 5 wins which will keep them out of getting either of the top QBs in the draft. Unless they trade Belichick to the Bears for their 1st rounder.
Then he can finish ruining Fields and draft a QB in the fourth round after using the first round pick on a defensive end
Players need hugs from Bill.
Deep QB draft class. Get it right and we build from there
There all grabge none are pocket passers, and that's what wins you championships
@@DavidBarton777LOL. The true pocket passer statue is in the past. QBs like Mahomes/Allen/Hurts/Herbert are what teams want. Mobile+ QBs with cannons. You’re either clueless or 75
@@DavidBarton777watch games
@@flambookeyI think he’s Bill Belichick. Mac might be the worst athlete in the league at the QB position.
@@DavidBarton777SAY IT WITH ME:
20 years of success..."because of Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr."
Bill sucked BEFORE and AFTER. Bill is a terrible coach without Brady and LT. The two best players ever.
Mac has thrown more pick 6s in 3 seasons at Gilette than Brady did in 20 years, let that sink in 😂😂😂😂
Mac is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.
Weakest arm of ANY starter in the NFL by far.
BAD decision maker/low football iq.
No mobility.
Panics.
Bad leadership.
Dirty, kids players in the nuts.
Coaches don't like him.
Teammates dont respect him.
Mac fanboys: BRING HIM BACK NEXT SEASON!!!!!
😂😂😂😂
Comparing Mac to Brady is like comparing four wooden wheels to a Bugatti.
Mac is 70% of the reason the Patriots are a mess. Cam Newton was a BETTER QB! Yes. I said it. Cam at least wasn't ACTIVELY scoring points for the other team every week and he helped the offensive line by being able to run so defenses had to stay honest on RPOs and play action.
Mac's NUMBER ONE THING was his supposed brain. But in 3 seasons, starting halfway through his rookie year, he's been a dumb player. Taking bad sacks. Throwing across his body. Late on throws. Missing reads DOWN THE MIDDLE. His preference for shotgun also negates the teams ability to play traditional play-action/run-action because it's much harder to run play action out of shotgun and the efficiency metrics prove it.
Mac is a LIABILITY fellas! Trash, Trash, TRASH QB who throws at LEAST 4 interceptable passes per game. If the Raiders could catch, they'd have 3 interceptions of mac on Sunday.
GARBAGE QB. And he's a dirty player. Ew. WORSE than the worst version of Cam Newton (and that's saying something).
Zappe Career Passer Rating > Mac Noodles CryBaby Jones Career Passer Rating
FACT
I think the rebuild should start now. Belicheck has to go immediately, and the organisation appoints a new coach, even a transitional coach, to begin regaining confidence of the players. Accept a losing season, and prepare for next season. Time to stop whining and get to it
Its Kraft
we have a tier 1 coach with a tier 3 quarterback. welcome to the NFL
Defensive minded coaches dont win anymore in this league
Time for a regime change
this only adds to tb12's legacy. bill hasn't done anything before or since tom. Tom won despite bb.
Felger hates Bill, Bill is an eccentric guy, he’s taken a lot of flack from idiots like Felger. Bill has made some personnel mistakes, but he’s also had some good draft picks. The injuries have devastated this team. But if I had to pick the better human being it wouldn’t be Felger!!
BB the coach every bit as complicit as Bill the GM. In his tenure with the team, a litany of strange coaching decisions, bad clock management, head-scratching and unexplained/outright stubborn benchings, and pushing out the greatest player in the sport's history. Was never actually the GOAT coach, just had the GOAT player and garbage decisions on both sides of the job by The Hoodie have left the team in shambles. Time to start over. And a real start over, not lip service.
These guys sound just as indignant when the Patriots were dominant as when they are now horrible. Always angry about something
Kraft needs to go get Vrabel or Harbaugh from Michigan💯
Bring back Chuck Fairbanks😂😂😂
This is wild to witness.
Belichick has turned this once feared organization into a comedy.
His ability to draft on the offensive side is non existent and will end up ruining Mac's career......he has no weapons.
Mac was never good. He threw 3 passes and won a game he’s worse than a game manager you literally need to hide him.
I dont know how you people got threw the years they were without brady and bledsoe. Give me a break you all talk like all you knew was brady, give me a break. The season is definitely over and bill may well be done. But it is what it is at this point.
Give Bill 5 years, he will bring you back up to 7 and 8.
Idiots can never admit they've been and are idiots. BeliDork is a joke.
I don't get the hate. Try being a Bears fan or a Lions fan for a while. Decade after decade of poor play, poor drafting, poor player development. Patriots fans are just delusional to think that a two decade run can be sustained forever. Even the Packers drifted through entire decades with bad teams. The truth is that there are more teams (and games) than there is talent. Even well run teams will have these down times just due to that alone.
Add in that no one in their right mind would want to live in Mass, CT, RI, NY, or even NJ....
SAY IT WITH ME:
20 years of success..."because of Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr."
Bill sucked BEFORE and AFTER. Bill is a terrible coach without Brady and LT. The two best players ever.
I spent the whole video waiting for the guy in the blue sweater to start crying. He was so close.
It was an interesting/entertaining rant IMO
Why would he cry? He's from Wisconsin and is a Packers fan.
Its fitting dat dey lose to Raiders seeing as how dey cheated so much b4
Patriots at the Top today the league for 2 decades. They have 1 horrendously bad season and the fanbase starts crying like they’ve been at this since the 90’s….y’all get a potential franchise changing QB in exchange for 1 season of misery. God shut up and be thankful.
oh boo hoo, my team that's won every superbowl the last 20 years hasn't won the last couple years. Get real
The Patriots went 10 years 2004-2014 without winning the Superbowl...
Yeah, it's a travesty. we haven't won since 18!!
way too long!
When did your team last win🤔
1969
Sounds like a typical 98.5 assessment. Tom brady is not walking through that door again. Welcome to an average football team. Things will get better. Firing Bill won't do a thing.
How about you and Weei stop talking about the Patriots 98% of your shows.
Look at what Bill has done with 1st round draft picks..
2014:dominque Easily
2015: macolm brown
2016/2017: nobody
2018: sony michel
2019: nkeel harry
2020: nobody
2021: mac jones
2022: cole strange
2023: christian Gonzalez
Nothing but BUSTS. Christian gonzalez did good sure, but im not going to say he's good after 3 games and getting hurt. Sony Michel? Yeah he was okay but a RB????
Bill has failed drafting at every position. Idc if he gets lucky on mid-late round picks. Pure bust of a drafter
The softer part of the schedule is the second half of the season . I think we go on a 4-5 game winning streak at some point in the season
They need to tank/bottom out. Another "moral victories" season is dumb. This team has to completely reset. They have to get a new GM as well as a new offensive minded head coach. They have to tank so that they can get one of the premier QBs in this draft (Williams, Maye, Pennix, Nix) The time for moral victories is over. Now it's time to hit the reset button...
@@williamreid6288 facts but i dont think they will i think win weeks 9,10,11,13,15
i can see them winning those games and screwing us out of a top 3 pick
@@williamreid6288 if you really want to hit the reset button you trade Mac Jones to the raiders and you try to get a 2and 3rd idk then tank for #1
@@TheSnowRacer888Washington can score 20 points so that’s a loss. I don’t see these wins you speak of. Are we watching the same patriots team?
Patriots need to loose every game and get top
pic in the draft. Drake Maye looks good or Marvin Harisson JR.
people talk about watching because they love the team...i stopped watching because it's bad television.
Bill is done
I predicted 3 wins before season's start and i got laughed at 😅
And if Rodgers doesn’t get hurt they are 0-6 rn, staring at 0-8 after next two vs buff and Miami.
Lol this was hilarious. “Embarrassing loser”
Bill wants out. He wants Giants job.
I think there is a conscious going that says we are tired of Felger...lol He can not be satisfied with any star sports figures in Boston. He even denounced Brady in the past. Now he is all over BB one of the best coaches in all of football. He literally throws dirt in his face. I guess you think it's all Bill's fault that we have underperforming players. Well, you need to include Mac Jones because he is far from a franchise quarterback that a Boston Sports team needs and yes especially coming in behind Brady. I will put it this way..." I think I could replace a Mac Jones QB position, But it would be dam hard to find a head coach replacement for Bill B." Even if Mac had a superior offensive line, I don't think his talent level fits, and his emotional stability and sense of control are sort of off and questionable. So just tell me Mr. Felger...and stop hiding behind the "Start Over Theory"...Who is your pick for the next Head coach for our winning franchise here that is better than Bill B?
We are about winning here and a winning franchise always has a winning QB that takes us there. No matter the GM/coach. Bill Stays and Mac Goes!
Mac has zero talent around him. he's not playing well, but he's not in a position to succeed. Bill has not shown over two full decades that he can develop an offensive skill player. he hasn't done it a single time. if you want to just coast on past accomplishments, than you're a loser. Belichick was the first person to cut a guy the second he could no longer deliver.. He should get the same treatment.
I love felger stop complaining when you don’t want to hear the truth