How To Change Serum Presets With A MIDI Controller

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  • @royferdinand2884
    @royferdinand2884 3 роки тому +21

    For those who can't find the serum.cfg file, it has been replaced by SerumPrefs.json (for build 1.341). Steve from Xfer did this because it's a json file format, and this way older versions of Serum won't lose their settings.
    All you need to do is;
    "Enable CCForRockers": 0, change the 0 to 1
    "CCForRocker Preset +": -1,
    "CCForRocker Preset -": -1, change the -1 to the CC numbers that you want for decrement/increment.

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому

      Awesome thanks man

    • @saurabhbabbar
      @saurabhbabbar 2 роки тому

      Thank you So much Jinba for this, And Roy for update, I will remembering you guys while changing cc's on stage

    • @lostinreverb
      @lostinreverb 2 роки тому

      i can do this with any midi controller? I have a M Audio Oxygen 25

    • @djsilverivanov
      @djsilverivanov 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for this info but still can't make it work. OS Monterey / M Audio Oxygen 49

    • @simmermusic3894
      @simmermusic3894 2 роки тому

      Just perfect! Thanks!

  • @carlosp.1846
    @carlosp.1846 2 роки тому +7

    I don't understand why this feature is missing on every plugin? why they make the most basic and useful function so difficult or inexistent? I don't get it.. years pass and it still missing

  • @BrandonMikelPaul
    @BrandonMikelPaul 16 днів тому

    How convenient! I'm mapping the exact same MIDI controller as the one you are using in the video. Thank you for the video.

  • @shakuganoshanayoutube4112
    @shakuganoshanayoutube4112 Рік тому

    It's 2023, been using serum for years and just discovered your video. THANK YOU SO MUCH !

  • @AntandraMusic
    @AntandraMusic 2 роки тому +10

    Dear Mac Users, here's the path you need. FYI, it was in the manual the whole time. Imagine that.
    ~/Library/Preferences/Serum.cfg
    ~/Library/Preferences/SerumPrefs.json

  • @jinba8352
    @jinba8352  4 роки тому +1

    Thanks guys. I'm really glad I was able to help out as this was tedious to find haha

  • @AmosJordanOfficial
    @AmosJordanOfficial 2 роки тому +6

    Hey guys ... any idea how to do the same exact thing with the Arcade presets? Or like any other VST plugin? This is extremely convenient!

  • @pyronb
    @pyronb 2 роки тому +4

    Hi guys, in addition of editing your Serum preference file, some actions are required in Ableton Live :
    - In Ableton Live preferences: MIDI settings > MIDI PORTS > "Track In" should be enabled for the controller you want to control Serum with
    - In Track settings:
    --- MIDI From > Select the input of the controller you want to control Serum with (or "All Ins")
    --- MIDI From > Select the channel used by the controller you want to control Serum with (or "All channels")
    - Arm track
    - Display Serum GUI
    - Now you can push your button/pad and it will change preset:)
    Wait! What if the controller you want to control Serum with is not the same you want to play MIDI notes with ?
    Glad you asked. I found 2 solutions :
    - 1st - You can set Track MIDI From to "All Ins" and select the Channel your MIDI notes are coming from. Considering Serum is listening on all channels for the CC you defined in preference file, it will work.
    Main disadvantage of this technique is that in track settings, the MIDI channel becomes the only thing you can use to define what MIDI instrument to get MIDI notes from.
    - 2nd - You can keep Track MIDI From to "Your MIDI instrument generating the notes" and select it's channel, just as usual. Then you can drop Max4Live device "MIDI Router" to same track and use it to route messages from the controller you want to control Serum with to Serum plugin itself ! Main advantage is that you can keep fine grained controlled on track settings.
    Note that in Serum preference file, no CC Channel is defined, meaning it will listen to all channels. The same CC message controls all Serum instances whose GUI is "displayed" (even non-selected tracks).

  • @vascocosta3720
    @vascocosta3720 9 місяців тому

    I was craving for this option on a performance and sound design situation, i will try it. Thank you

  • @inarisound
    @inarisound 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much! saved a lot of time

  • @patrikgudev2999
    @patrikgudev2999 4 роки тому +1

    Really cool. THX

  • @JohnJohnCrusher
    @JohnJohnCrusher Рік тому +1

    Do the CCs/notes have to been on Channel 1? I have my utility midi controller (Launch control XL) outputting on channel 14 for example, to avoid conflicts with my apc40.
    Can you specify channel??

  • @ROSACEPONY
    @ROSACEPONY 4 місяці тому

    Any idea on how i can see the CC of any controller? i have a novation Launchkey MkII and a Presonus Atoms SQ i tryed a soft called midiview but it's the same as Studio One builtin midi viewer, tho the values might be in front of me but i'm unsure wich one i have to add to the SerumPrefs.json

  • @BigJerr
    @BigJerr 3 роки тому +2

    man this is cool but I have no idea how to do it on MAC can someone please help

  • @michaelvertleyb139
    @michaelvertleyb139 2 роки тому +1

    thank you!!

  • @Darkmenn1s
    @Darkmenn1s 4 роки тому +3

    This is the reason I bought my LaunchControl. Scrolling through and testing macros in Serum was awful. I'm so happy :-) THANK YOU!

  • @ISTHMUSchannel
    @ISTHMUSchannel 4 місяці тому

    its 2024! trying to find the serumcfg on a macosx but i cant seem to find it. any tips on this?

  • @XrictosTkd
    @XrictosTkd 3 роки тому

    Can't seem to make it work. Using m-audio keystation 49 and the arrow buttons show as ''Note d6" for the left one and ''Note D#6" for the right one

  • @defconsound2565
    @defconsound2565 Рік тому

    Is there a way to just map it to an ableton group macro instead? I’d pay to have that feature

  • @Johnverhoeven
    @Johnverhoeven 2 роки тому

    Works like a charm! Even with an Akai MPK Mini.. ;-)

  • @theodwris
    @theodwris 3 роки тому

    does it work in Windows? I can't find this patch in my pc

  • @jwalkermed
    @jwalkermed 8 місяців тому

    @Jinba8352 do you know if you can map it rotary knob?

  • @scotthunter1678
    @scotthunter1678 10 місяців тому

    Not able to get it to work o my APC unfortunately. Thank you very much for the video!

  • @PspkCz
    @PspkCz Рік тому

    mazing bro thx

  • @stefanleithner6922
    @stefanleithner6922 2 роки тому

    how do I know what CC my button is?

  • @techsinthecity4459
    @techsinthecity4459 4 роки тому

    Hey Jinba nice find if you get a minute, I'm on a Mac, have loaded the serum.cfg file, I can midi learn with my controller but I dont have all the code you have, mine ends on
    [0] (0) reserved
    ... then the path for presets.
    I tried adding those lines of code with my CC N#s, no go. If you happen to know or can point me in the direction, would be awesome. Thanks man !!!

    • @BigJerr
      @BigJerr 3 роки тому +4

      hey there im on Mac to where did you find the cfg file

  • @fredtotherick
    @fredtotherick 3 роки тому +2

    how do i know what cc numbers the knobs/sliders of my midi controller triggers?

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому +1

      My midi controller has an interface that will tell me the number. Otherwise you can either look in your instruction manual. Better yet you can map a parameter in your DAW and check the midi input settings to see what's getting triggered. In Ableton for example, in will tell you the CC values in the mapping menu

    • @stefanleithner6922
      @stefanleithner6922 2 роки тому

      @@jinba8352 intresting!

  • @lwpweb
    @lwpweb 8 місяців тому

    this is on windows. on mac i do not find a serum.cfg.

  • @pathosg
    @pathosg 4 роки тому +1

    What would be you preference config in ableton?
    I just can't make it work with my Nektar Imact. I know what CC control it is sending, but it won't change preset in Serum. This has taking me some time during this Quarantine and I would love to finally have it work :D
    Thanks for the Video

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  4 роки тому

      Hmm make sure that the midi controller is on in the preference tab. Try disabling the controller surface or at least have the Nektar send midi data and not controller surface data

  • @gabrielapodaca1102
    @gabrielapodaca1102 Рік тому +1

    any other synths that allow this let me know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks

  • @vascocosta3720
    @vascocosta3720 9 місяців тому

    Make more videos on your experimentations with mappings

  • @djfenixpr
    @djfenixpr 3 роки тому +1

    This is great and it works, thank you. Can you please explain how to do that thing you mention at 0:39?

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому

      There's an arrow on your vst device. So there's an on off button, arrow and pop up on the device menu. Click the arrow and all the possible parameters will show up. From there you can mail anything present on the menu

    • @djfenixpr
      @djfenixpr 3 роки тому

      @@jinba8352 great, thank you.

  • @GadiantonsRobber
    @GadiantonsRobber 2 роки тому

    Is there a way to make it so I don't have to load the midi map every time I change the preset?

    • @jwalkermed
      @jwalkermed 8 місяців тому

      save your midi map with the name default

  • @royalkiller2
    @royalkiller2 Рік тому

    None of this appears on 5.5.2 :(

  • @CeeD33Bee
    @CeeD33Bee 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, but I can't seem to get this working. I tried on my MidiMix, which sends note messages from the buttons, but that just plays notes when I have it armed in ableton and does nothing if I unarm.
    This was what I put in my CFG;
    [2] enable/disable this section (1 for CC, 2 for NOTES)
    [37][40] (increment / decrement CC for Preset Changes)
    I tried using a different controller with CCs instead and I can get them to assign directly to controls in ableton, but can't get them to do the preset changing on serum. Seems like midi learn works but can't use that with preset selection of course, Hmm! Anyone had the same?

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому +1

      Are the correct note values put in properly? You can figure out the send notes in the midi mapping section of Ableton. Confirm that. Also note values are different from cc. You'll need to specify that in the CFG

    • @CeeD33Bee
      @CeeD33Bee 3 роки тому +2

      @@jinba8352 yeah I don't think Ableton shows midi notes as their actual numbers in midi mapping. I'm guessing I need to translate to it's actual number (0-127)
      So I tested out which midi note the midimix was sending by mapping a random device button to each button and got;
      Note C#-2 which I think should be [37]
      Note E-2 which I think should be [40]
      Anyway I tried with using CCs as well but wasn't working for me. I did change the (1 for CC, 2 for NOTES) bit too.
      It's not super important tbf, it was just bugging me that I couldn't work it out :)

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому +1

      @@CeeD33Bee my other suggestion would be to check the instructions manual to make sure the correct cc or note values are correct. On my xone k2, every time I change the controller page, the entire note values change for every button.

    • @CeeD33Bee
      @CeeD33Bee 3 роки тому +1

      @@jinba8352 I will take a look cheers. I'm still trying to work out how it handles midi channel, does it just take a CC or note on any channel? Or is that dependent on which you have armed on the midi track in Ableton?

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому +1

      @@CeeD33Bee Yes. I believe if you have it armed in Ableton for midi notes it won't work. I just remembered this. It's the reason why I used cc values over note values

  • @pabliaav
    @pabliaav 3 роки тому +1

    Nice, the only thing is that it only works when the serum window is open, if i close the serum window, the CCs stop changing the presets. Is this happening to you too?

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому +1

      It shouldn't. Are you changing the cc on a midi controller or on keyboard?

    • @pabliaav
      @pabliaav 3 роки тому +1

      @@jinba8352 Im sending cc from a max4live device, that is mapped to an external midi controller. Its good to know that this is not a normal behavior, i will try sending cc directly from the controller to see if it works properly. Thanks for your answer!

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому +1

      @@pabliaav Yea hopefully it works. I'm not to versed in max unfortunately

  • @bingolobongolo2089
    @bingolobongolo2089 3 роки тому +2

    can't find serum.cfg on my mac ?

    • @lukas_wb
      @lukas_wb Рік тому

      same here ._.

    • @elitebeatagent8993
      @elitebeatagent8993 Рік тому +1

      @@lukas_wb serum.cfg is not on mac you must find ~/Library/Preferences/SerumPrefs.json mine however was under
      ~/hard_ drive_name/Users/user_name/Library/Preferences/SerumPrefs.json
      (hard_drive_name = the name of your harddrive) and (user_name = the name of the user)

  • @deveyous6614
    @deveyous6614 Рік тому

    I emailed steve on this years ago and the response was "just use midi CC", id been producing for...3 weeks haha

  • @jaszczur8870
    @jaszczur8870 3 роки тому +1

    Can I do it also with filters?

    • @jinba8352
      @jinba8352  3 роки тому

      Yes. Filter mapping is easy. You can permanently map it to a CC value and have it be there permanently. Theres an option in the drop down menu

    • @jaszczur8870
      @jaszczur8870 3 роки тому

      @@jinba8352 which one? Also I have tried to set those values, like you did in the video and it didnt work, then Ive put my CC number it was 47 and 48 and It havent fixed the problem also. Am I doing sth wrong?

  • @gonzalodominguez229
    @gonzalodominguez229 3 роки тому +1

    nice but no. Plugins manufactures need to make preset selection more easy... For EVERY PLUGIN!!!
    refuse to make programmers work for each and every plug