I'm glad to see them finally come out with decently priced dual motor e-bikes - that's all they needed to have enough torque to actually climb some hills.
@@MotoCheez So, last summer, I got my hands on this Juiced Camp Scrambler. It could handle some seriously steep hills, but let me tell you, I was huffing and puffing by the time I reached the top. Blame it on the extra pounds and me having to give it a hand getting up there. I thought about the Grizzly, but man, that's a bit much for an e-bike. So, I switched things up and went for scooters for a while. But, you know what? I'm eyeing a dual-motor e-bike now because that's just more my vibe. Great vid man! 🌻
Hi Motocheez, I wanted to thank you so much for knowledge on not only putting the bike together, but for showing how to operate the buttons, Odometer, trip mode, etc. 😊 I love the Keteles xf 4000 it's so nice to ride
In the next video I did do that, but I'm not sure it came out as good as I wanted it to. I just don't like the camera angle with it on the top of my bike helmet. Top speed single motor only was 25 mph As far as hills are really aren't any here in Florida, but I did drive the back of my property where I made some roads cut through and there is a small sandhill
Looks like it would be a good beach cruiser.. Would you buy this over say the others that you have experance with? It being a 2 wheel drive? thx...@@MotoCheez
@captsam54 would definitely be an awesome beach cruiser, the power lines are nothing but beach sand and actually even pounded finer into sugar sand. After driving a dual hub e bike that's absolutely my preference if I was going to buy one
Hi. Have enjoyed a few of your video's, you're countryside an climate are so different to here in Broadstairs South East England although I am near a beach too. I was wondering if you could tell me if you still have the Keteles ebike an if you do, how is it holding up after 4 months of use as I'm thinking of getting just a rear wheel drive one? Hope lifes treating you good. Be well. Pete.
Great review. You sold me on buying one. Who is the best place to purchase from. There’s a few websites with their name and I do t want to choose the wrong site and get scammed. Thanks for the videos
@@MotoCheez I was curious since the 800 with dual 1000w motors is the same price as the 4000 with dual 2000w motors. Thanks for the reply. Did you know the most reliable place to get it such as manufacturer website?
Best? Nope. Looks like its another rebadged smlro - the hardtail version - you can get the full suspension version for about the same price if you shop around.
well I bought that same bike Keteles black and white dual motor November 30 2023 and reached 42 mph downhill 36.2 mph flat road removed speed restrictor from programmed limiter first and huge hills 40 degrees plus no issues no problems with both motors and full throttle no need to pedal with both motors whirring! It weighs a ton! 96 pounds with battery attached plus another 15 pounds locks chains tools etc, but it moves super fast despite the weight ,hit the throttle takes off immediately! $1447 including tax free delivery. Battery does 20-22 miles throttle only 30-35 with pedal assist. Add 40 percent if using only one motor. Enormous bike not suitable for anyone under 5 ft 9 in. Several sellers same bike same specs differing prices . Single rear wheel motor about $1000 ! Best to spend the extra $450 for dual motors ! A monster bike any terrain any hill! Nothing better anywhere for the money ,
Great video! Hope you're bringing this back up north for the hill test. My buddy's wired e-bike was suspension is a little bit delayed stuck on some container ship off the coast of California.. Once you get that I'll have to make a little video and send it to you
Compared to what? Large Battery size, dual drive, hydraulic brakes and aluminum frame. Most bikes with smaller battery and single hub drive are close to $2000
@davidd8435 ahh, yes they are pretty expensive steel, the battery is probably 3/4 of price of the build. But this bike is a budget price for what you get compared to the five $6,000 bikes
Hotdog we got a Cheezy weiner! We had a young kid that was about 17 or 18 years old working with us for a while that saved up and bought himself one of the more expensive e-bikes. From what he said he paid about $3,500 for his which came with two batteries, had full alloy wheels and the road tires on it looked like something off of a small motorcycle. It even had a built-in alarm that would go off if anyone even farted next to it. He loved it a lot, it was his main transportation into work since he just lived right in town like me and he didn't own a car. One of the older guys that works in receiving that's been with the company for a few years also rides an e-bike into work as well. His isn't as fancy as what the kid bought but he has a bicycle trailer hooked to his that he puts his groceries in come pay day. He pretty much uses his like it was his car. He also lives right here in town and will walk to work in the summer as well. Since he's an older guy he pretty much has nowhere to go and all day to get there. :)
@@MotoCheez Indeed. They're very popular in my area. But it also makes some people who should know better get into the habit of abusing them. Trying to use them as a motorcycle replacement and riding them where they don't belong. Besides the miss-use from those that are careless e-bikes have their place. :)
I am purchasing the XF 4000 online I think it was $1,399, said a few left, I hope to get it in great condition, then watch your video again as I start putting the Keteles E Bike together, thanks for letting us learn from you sir😊
my current project is a coleman b200r it is a hill climbing machine! Sometime you should do a build on one. Do the mods like the billet rod, carb, jets, flywheel. These colemans would eat that sugar sand up for luch and they have 17 digit VINS@@MotoCheez
ive mod mine with the cvt, rejet, pipe, air filter and valve springs and modified the governor but not removed yet. went out yesterday in the desert and it tacked any hill 10 tooth front 50 on the back. current max speed about 42mph. remove the gov and mod the motor would go faster but i don't really need the speed but hill climbing torque is my friend. i thought the ride in the back would be rough without the suspension, but i aired down the tire to 10 and for me it really wasnt that bad. ua-cam.com/video/MPs1n4M-s7U/v-deo.htmlsi=0wgDOyVeIdwA1iVd@@MotoCheez
Many of these e-bike companies use the same parts on their bikes, so if you do a quick search on Amazon for 23 amp hour ebike battery you'll see there's many available Just with different name brand
@@MotoCheez that's good but this one looked shaped to fit. The frame..so i was concerned bout getting one that fits...also like to know the range on one wheel drive. ...an thanks..love the videos. An your moving to fl. Videos got me thinking of getting out of pa!..one year to go till retirement!
Now that one there you can use one of your other batteries and put on the battery blender .. Toss it in a bag on the rear. Need some XT 60 connectors and the pigtail from the donor battery .. Or rail and mount from another bike.
@@MotoCheez I think that dual hub is really worth the price. Would be nice even to buy an aftermarket extra 20 ah battery for $400- $450. Flat rectangle one with a connector already on it for a battery blender. Battery combiner is like $60 . That thing would be an all day 30 mph bike then.. Tackle any hills you have . You could mount the battery blender on the rack near the battery bag or box you put the battery inside.
I want to mount a plate onto my rack and put a harbor freight or Husky heavy duty tool box on the plate with nuts and bolts going through the bottom of the lockable tool box to the underside of the plate minted on the rack. Then put my extra 30 ah 52V battery inside the tool box. With room to put a tool kit. Flat repair tools and electric pump. And junk .
ON SALE NOW! link: amzn.to/3MD8ECW
Link to manual: kdocs.cn/l/cv3nwo43IKz1
I'm glad to see them finally come out with decently priced dual motor e-bikes - that's all they needed to have enough torque to actually climb some hills.
Agreed, definitely game changer. This thing has good torque and does awesome in the sand and a great top speed
@@MotoCheez So, last summer, I got my hands on this Juiced Camp Scrambler. It could handle some seriously steep hills, but let me tell you, I was huffing and puffing by the time I reached the top. Blame it on the extra pounds and me having to give it a hand getting up there. I thought about the Grizzly, but man, that's a bit much for an e-bike. So, I switched things up and went for scooters for a while. But, you know what? I'm eyeing a dual-motor e-bike now because that's just more my vibe. Great vid man! 🌻
@CarelessKingdom 😁👍. I'm loving the dual drives!
Hi Motocheez, I wanted to thank you
so much for knowledge on not only
putting the bike together, but for
showing how to operate the buttons,
Odometer, trip mode, etc. 😊
I love the Keteles xf 4000 it's so nice to ride
My pleasure
Just got a k800 yesterday, using it to do a four mile to work then back again. Jelly motor.
Just great 15 miles in and counting. All I ever needed.
Awesome
Right On, Mr. C😊
Is it the camera angle or is the wheel base short? When your son came into the driveway, the wheels looked closer than other ones you tested.
wheelbase seems normal.i'll have to measure now you mention it
Love the videos 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Horn sounds cute
😁👍👍
lower botton is your light ;)
Would be good to know speed with rear only on flat ground.. Then do some hills with rear only and then both motors. I'm sure you will get to it. 😂
In the next video I did do that, but I'm not sure it came out as good as I wanted it to. I just don't like the camera angle with it on the top of my bike helmet. Top speed single motor only was 25 mph
As far as hills are really aren't any here in Florida, but I did drive the back of my property where I made some roads cut through and there is a small sandhill
This got to be the best ebike for the money.
Definitely a bargain!
Think it would make a good beach sand fishing cruiser to get you distance on the sand beaches and get to the good fishing spots?
Definitely, this thing is pretty excellent in the soft sugar sand and with the dual drive torque and big battery it'll get you places!
@@MotoCheez I remain humble before thee master queso
Looks like a decent bike... What does it weigh?? Like the front motor.. Dampened forks and headlight... Might be worth a shot....
That's a good question It did not come when a manual and I do not see the weight information online. If I had to guess it would be probably 80lbs
Looks like it would be a good beach cruiser.. Would you buy this over say the others that you have experance with? It being a 2 wheel drive? thx...@@MotoCheez
@captsam54 would definitely be an awesome beach cruiser, the power lines are nothing but beach sand and actually even pounded finer into sugar sand.
After driving a dual hub e bike that's absolutely my preference if I was going to buy one
I knew you would give me the true skinny... Might just bite the bullet..!!!@@MotoCheez
That one looks like a good'n thus far.
Definitely best tested so far in my opinion
Hi. Have enjoyed a few of your video's, you're countryside an climate are so different to here in Broadstairs South East England although I am near a beach too. I was wondering if you could tell me if you still have the Keteles ebike an if you do, how is it holding up after 4 months of use as I'm thinking of getting just a rear wheel drive one?
Hope lifes treating you good.
Be well.
Pete.
I do still have the kettles, haven't ridden it much, but it's holding up well
Losing 3/5th of battery life in 10 miles? I understand dual 1000w motors and flyin' around but Wow.
Sand is hard on the batteries too
Hey Moto, you keep buying all them E-lectric bikes, it won't be long b'foren you can start your own business of rentin' out bikes to your friends.
I got rid of some, gave away, traded and sold some.
@@MotoCheez cool... I think you need to get a mini truck for down there in Florida
@vharrald I do, but just put deposit on my garage
Great review. You sold me on buying one. Who is the best place to purchase from. There’s a few websites with their name and I do t want to choose the wrong site and get scammed. Thanks for the videos
Also, do you think this is a better choice than the K800 and if yes or no, why?
@ThatCarGuy1000 I'm not familiar with that bike
I put the link in the description of the video and it's pinned at the top of the comment
@@MotoCheez I was curious since the 800 with dual 1000w motors is the same price as the 4000 with dual 2000w motors. Thanks for the reply. Did you know the most reliable place to get it such as manufacturer website?
@@MotoCheez ty sir. They said “currently unavailable” so I guess I was just hoping for a direct source haha. Great content by the way.
Polly battery. Duel motor.
Yes
It has better suspension than my CRF Honda Rally , but I think I could take it the 1/4 mile.
😂
Can you use only one motor at a time. I know some will let you do rear or front wheel drive only
This you can choose rear only or both
Too late but hiya.
You're 1st!
Maybe the license plate goes on top not the bottom?
It would stick upward out of the rack and take up quite a bit of room. But maybe you're right
Actually I don't think it could because the bars were in the way to go up now that I think about it I'll have to look at it again
Best? Nope. Looks like its another rebadged smlro - the hardtail version - you can get the full suspension version for about the same price if you shop around.
well I bought that same bike Keteles black and white dual motor November 30 2023 and reached 42 mph downhill 36.2 mph flat road removed speed restrictor from programmed limiter first and huge hills 40 degrees plus no issues no problems with both motors and full throttle no need to pedal with both motors whirring! It weighs a ton! 96 pounds with battery attached plus another 15 pounds locks chains tools etc, but it moves super fast despite the weight ,hit the throttle takes off immediately! $1447 including tax free delivery. Battery does 20-22 miles throttle only 30-35 with pedal assist. Add 40 percent if using only one motor. Enormous bike not suitable for anyone under 5 ft 9 in. Several sellers same bike same specs differing prices . Single rear wheel motor about $1000 ! Best to spend the extra $450 for dual motors ! A monster bike any terrain any hill! Nothing better anywhere for the money ,
@@grahamshaw6840 I bought the full suspension version for $1300 - just waiting for delivery, someday, when it thaws...
Imhave a suspicion you actually enjoy startling the people you come up from behind. It's okay, I understand.
Haha, I don't! It's so quiet there's no subtle way to tell someone you're behind them 😂. Wait until you see part 2
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Great video! Hope you're bringing this back up north for the hill test. My buddy's wired e-bike was suspension is a little bit delayed stuck on some container ship off the coast of California..
Once you get that I'll have to make a little video and send it to you
@timothybroga1704 I'm not bringing this up north. He bought direct from China?
@@MotoCheez no the company in California He's bought the bike through sent him an email about the container ship
@timothybroga1704 hmm, sounds odd
$200 on temu lol
😆👍
too much money.
Compared to what? Large Battery size, dual drive, hydraulic brakes and aluminum frame. Most bikes with smaller battery and single hub drive are close to $2000
Sorry for not making comment clear, just over all, electric bikes are very expensive. they are convenient but expensive. @@MotoCheez
@davidd8435 ahh, yes they are pretty expensive steel, the battery is probably 3/4 of price of the build. But this bike is a budget price for what you get compared to the five $6,000 bikes
I agree, but I still bought one, it took me years at looking at my KLR 650 for 3500 and a good e-bike for 3000
Hotdog we got a Cheezy weiner! We had a young kid that was about 17 or 18 years old working with us for a while that saved up and bought himself one of the more expensive e-bikes. From what he said he paid about $3,500 for his which came with two batteries, had full alloy wheels and the road tires on it looked like something off of a small motorcycle. It even had a built-in alarm that would go off if anyone even farted next to it. He loved it a lot, it was his main transportation into work since he just lived right in town like me and he didn't own a car.
One of the older guys that works in receiving that's been with the company for a few years also rides an e-bike into work as well. His isn't as fancy as what the kid bought but he has a bicycle trailer hooked to his that he puts his groceries in come pay day. He pretty much uses his like it was his car. He also lives right here in town and will walk to work in the summer as well. Since he's an older guy he pretty much has nowhere to go and all day to get there. :)
That's pretty cool! I've been seeing tons of eBikes, they're getting popular.
@@MotoCheez Indeed. They're very popular in my area. But it also makes some people who should know better get into the habit of abusing them. Trying to use them as a motorcycle replacement and riding them where they don't belong. Besides the miss-use from those that are careless e-bikes have their place. :)
@Slane583 that's very true
Funniest intro ever. Lol
Saw that bike browsing on the net earlier but I overlooked it cause of the weird name. Thanks for sharing
Haha. Thanks!! I try to just fit a few videos in what's in the entire video. I was surprised how well it perform for the price!
I am purchasing the XF 4000 online
I think it was $1,399, said a few left,
I hope to get it in great condition,
then watch your video again as I
start putting the Keteles E Bike
together, thanks for letting us learn
from you sir😊
Thats a good price point for a bike to go that fast!
I thought so too, with the large battery hydraulic brakes and dual drives it's pretty good price
my current project is a coleman b200r it is a hill climbing machine! Sometime you should do a build on one. Do the mods like the billet rod, carb, jets, flywheel. These colemans would eat that sugar sand up for luch and they have 17 digit VINS@@MotoCheez
@radpaul2574 I've ridden my neighbor's Coleman, it's not too bad in the sand. Reminds me of whitey and the condor!
ive mod mine with the cvt, rejet, pipe, air filter and valve springs and modified the governor but not removed yet. went out yesterday in the desert and it tacked any hill 10 tooth front 50 on the back. current max speed about 42mph. remove the gov and mod the motor would go faster but i don't really need the speed but hill climbing torque is my friend. i thought the ride in the back would be rough without the suspension, but i aired down the tire to 10 and for me it really wasnt that bad. ua-cam.com/video/MPs1n4M-s7U/v-deo.htmlsi=0wgDOyVeIdwA1iVd@@MotoCheez
You have an awesome beast parked beside you
I so want to purchase this ..but what does one do in 4 years when you need a battery?
Many of these e-bike companies use the same parts on their bikes, so if you do a quick search on Amazon for 23 amp hour ebike battery you'll see there's many available Just with different name brand
@@MotoCheez that's good but this one looked shaped to fit. The frame..so i was concerned bout getting one that fits...also like to know the range on one wheel drive. ...an thanks..love the videos. An your moving to fl. Videos got me thinking of getting out of pa!..one year to go till retirement!
@ronfisher2016 I looked them up on Amazon and their shaped identical to this one
I pulled the trigger.....
@ronfisher2016 woot woot! Let me know how you like it when you get it together and ride!
Have you ever encountered a front fork break because the front motor is too powerful? I met this with my dual motor xf4000
I have not yet, did the actual fork break on you?
I just ordered one.
One of my favorites. Just did another 2 video a few weeks ago with it
That looked really impressive on the sand :D
It absolutely was, the best yet power and handling. With that front extra drive pulling man it is so stable on a sand it's unbelievable
😂😂😂had to stop and cry laugh from the Napoleon Dynamite clip. Was just talking about the need to watch it again today
🤣😂 love that movie!
@@MotoCheezthats your butt buddy Taylor Swift that thing is Napoleon
Lol 🤣
It's a 2X2💪!
Yes!
Now that one there you can use one of your other batteries and put on the battery blender .. Toss it in a bag on the rear. Need some XT 60 connectors and the pigtail from the donor battery .. Or rail and mount from another bike.
That's not a bad idea, I have three e bikes down here now. I'll let my mom have one to use for a while
@@MotoCheez I think that dual hub is really worth the price. Would be nice even to buy an aftermarket extra 20 ah battery for $400- $450. Flat rectangle one with a connector already on it for a battery blender. Battery combiner is like $60 . That thing would be an all day 30 mph bike then.. Tackle any hills you have . You could mount the battery blender on the rack near the battery bag or box you put the battery inside.
I want to mount a plate onto my rack and put a harbor freight or Husky heavy duty tool box on the plate with nuts and bolts going through the bottom of the lockable tool box to the underside of the plate minted on the rack. Then put my extra 30 ah 52V battery inside the tool box. With room to put a tool kit. Flat repair tools and electric pump. And junk .
@kevinnashskitchen3517 that is true, and a great idea!!
@@kevinnashskitchen3517 I have 2 23ah batteries on my k800 pro and it's great I don't worry about how much battery I have left it's plenty always
Moto c what do you think hawk 250 or the templar actual 250 with 6 speed
I would say the Templar 250 definitely
@@MotoCheez thanks so much for your time! Love the content!
@mr.t4675 thanks! That Templar is like the KPX250 I reviewed a few months ago, minus EFI
@@MotoCheez awesome thanks. Pretty much the only difference is cosmetic?
@mr.t4675 pretty much from what I've seen.
Never had opportunity to review one yet tho