All you need! Source Audio Collider Delay and Reverb Review
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2019
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Love the enthusiasm, love the playing, love the overall presentation. Excellent demo! Thanks!
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Thanks. I/we appreciate all the work that goes into this kinda shit.
Your reviews are so informative, sir! Your casual sense of humor just motivated me to subscribe. I am very interested in this pedal for it's versitility and because it just makes sense to combine the diverse reverb portfolio with an equally diverse delay. Bravo!
Wow! Fantastic demo as always. This pedal is incredible. Will definitely check into ordering.
Thank you for advertising the thing I’ve decided to add to my collection. Informative and everything I was hoping to find in a combo pedal.
I picked up their Nemesis delay this summer and it is awesome. It gives you so many options and control over every single parameter of the sound. They also have digital couplers that let you control multiple pedals with the app. Worth every penny.
Dam.... this is a superb pedal, love the combined functionality, versatility & sonic quality. Superb review / vid Sir! Thank you very much indeed... New subscriber.
Sounds lovely. Nice visuals Henning!
Love the in depth dives here.
Also love the "of course it's an ad" rant, because, duh
The humor alone is worth the watch!
Saw the the other day and thought it was a nice pedal but more about it was lacking. Thanks for the thorough review. Most likely adding this soon.
Yes, it's an AD, and you got me subscribed for this AD. Very enjoyable and honest review!
Ad or no ad, the ambient pedals you show to us might me worth to be added to the collection of a pedal nerd!
Great review! As well as r + d, it‘s supposed to also allow: r + r, d + d. So it can be a kind of mini Ventris or a mini Nemesis
Overview: 1:28
Reverbs: 8:54
Delays: 24:50
Combined: 33:30
2 Cents: 38:54
Thank you sir. Doing the lord's work.
38.10 Smoke on the Water
A good pedal is the one that Inspire you.. and obviously this one reeaaaally inspiring you and your playing !!! What a great sounds there !!!
Love your videos always! Watching this video makes me impatient. Cant wait to move to the new place so I can open all my boxes and setup my board with the this pedal.
You got me with “what I like with the Collider is that it does not collide…” 😂
Awesome video, well done, came for the pedal defiantly want it
fantastic review...and the delay isn't even on yet!!! "Can you make it bigger?", she said. ;-) I have a Collider, but now know boundaries I hadn't even explored...thanx!!!
Hello, great video, and great review. I just wanted to add that there is still an indicator that shows which values a certain effect is on when switching from for example the "delay" effect to the "reverb" effect.
For example, if you store the "reverb mix" at "noon", then switch to the "delay" control and then store the "delay mix" for example at 3/4 and return to the "reverb" settings, you will see that when you turn the "mix" potentiometer the LED light starts flashing at exactly the position where you last memorized the value of that effect you are at, which is very helpful to me and probably to others as well. Greeting
Martin, thanks! I've had this pedal for awhile and hadn't figured that out. The manual is "robust" I'm sure that's not the only cool feature I've overlooked. this thing is deep!
Sounds awesome and I really dig the looks on this pedal.
Just love how you use the Helix to fixate the mic stand on the amp in the back. :D
Just to add, I would come to you as well if i had a product to show because you have proven yourself to be very qualified to speak with respect to a vast amount of gear and tones. You entertain, provide knowledge, and a fine reference point due to your huge catalog of reviews and demo's.
11:00 When I first plugged in my Ventris, the Room was the first engine I tried and that's exactly what I thought. It is also great for adding a little "space" to direct recordings if you connect it in stereo and set it subtle.
I didn't think you bought these to do subtle
@@MarkRigler This is just one of the things you buy it for :)
I think it is really useful for this application, though. Direct recordings may sound too dry or "lifeless" but a subtle stereo room reverb can help a lot with that. I find that most room reverbs sound more like tile rooms or bathrooms, which create some unpleasant resonating frequencies. Ventris/Collider's Room algo sounds very Hi-Fi.
I had the Nemesis and the Ventris, fortunately I sold them prior to this coming out, long story long, I collided with this and it is pretty cool.
ARRRGHH! I thought I wanted the Cirrus, but now I think I want the Collider. SO MANY CHOICES!!!
I love how much fun you have in your videos. I definitely need to get my hands on one of these 👍
Update: just ordered one. 😁👍
If you live in the US, you can get it from Zzsounds for just under 60 bucks a month for 6 months limited time only.
I do not work for them, I am just incredibly excited to get my hands on this pedal and want other people to enjoy it as well.
Keep being you, there are some people who don't mind entertaining and educating "ads" for a product that is a great addition to any musicians collection.
Ah good, a review I can trust is always provided by henning. One thing I find odd is having reverb on the right as it would be on left after delay in a typical order that is. I have the nemesis and its great but always hoped for a dual delay function like the delay in the collider. Thanks as always henning.
You can have 2 delays with both engines running together, but then you’d be missing out on the reverb.
I don’t know how I wasn’t subscribed to this channel yet. You display all the capabilities of a complex pedal, are a great player, and are hilarious 🤣 great video man
I've been paying attention to this pedal already for some time, but after Your video I am sure I am gonna get one! Soooooo space'y, smooth, magical, ambientish and cosmic.. And You are funny! ;) Thank You.
Love the visuals. Psychedelic .
Do I have to put this in the effects loop ? I’m using the orange rocker 15. I love your in depth videos brother.
Is this worth purchasing? Is there any issues that you experienced? I read on another vid that they had issues with a popping sound when switching thru things. Not really sure thru what but made me iffy about it. Haven't finished watching the whole vid but i will after i get some sleep. Just spent hrs convincing myself on a fuzz pedal lol. Tomorrow ( or later today) will be delay/reverb
How hard are these to midi map to HX Stomp XL snapshots? Can I sync its tempo to the HX’s clock on a per song basis?
You are right! The Collider is really a great pedal!
Loved this. Thank you. What expression pedals would pair well with this pedal please?
Love it. Buying one!
Cool video, thanks. Source Audio collider calculates with two 56 bit DSP processors. That’s awesome!
haha... you are buying into the marketing and stats....
These are guitar signals!
These are being reproduced by 12 inch speakers without tweeters... there is NO high end and 48KHz is wayyyyyyy more than you need to adequately sample a guitar sound. You would not be able to hear a difference... not even in a quiet studio setting.... most certainly not in a band setting.
There will be ZERO difference!
Feature wise... the Avalanche is nice, but very limited... the SA Collider does many many different algorithms and is a completely different tool.
I assume delay and reverb can be used simultaneously and the pedal automatically places reverb after delay in terms of signal path?
It looks really cool. Idk why but, I've been getting into stuff like this lately.
I always enjoy and appreciate your well-produced and funny "ads" ;-)
Great pedal, nice algorithms. I especially like that the Collider has a wide range of Midi supoort. And yes, stereo sound samples would have been nice. And I really would like to know which params expression pedals can control. I assume it is Control 1 and Control 2.
Harald, on any Source Audio pedal, expression control can be assigned to ANY function in the Neuro App, and/or ANY knob just with the buttons on the back of the pedal.
Excellent review. The one criticism you have is exactly the reason why I would hesitate in buying this pedal .As soon as they have a button where you can switch instantly between delay and reverb or combine the two I’m in!
Aren't there presets...switch by midi maybe
could you show us how to map/use an expression pedal with the collider?
Awesome pedal. I had the Ventris but it was a little more complicated for my taste. Amazing sounds though...
Interesting pedal. I prefer separate pedals, but I can see it having uses.
I appreciated the David Shimmer joke.
Time stamps in the description for every sound clip would be so nice. A man can dream.
would be posible the Collider vs Cirrus for guitar and bass? thanks for the video, greatings from Uruguay.
Good summary. I just got mine.
The paid reviews are getting undeserved negative attention because some reviewers are bragging that they are not being paid.
To be honest, I listen to a paid review differently than an unpaid, but you and Pete Thorn and many others provide insights I could never get from my local guitar center.
Live long and prosper, as the pointy eared alien used to say.
Divine deification that’s a cool pedal ad or review as long as Cheddar is switching it’s an art piece
Would-be great if Source Audio came with a multi-modulation pedal with a form factor like the Collider!
So is edome a spring and hall combine?
great video man thank you sir i just subscribed i like this vedio a lot and great demo great playing too man
Nice pedal! I don't know if it's the pedal, or the visual effects, but I think I have reefer madness
I can’t wait to use this on my Sax!!!
Khris Royal Best comment 👌🏽
The surf music fail was so darn funny 😆
best ad ive seen in my life
What an awesome & fun review! Thank you! ...am off to buy this pedal! :-)
ANY HISS or noise issues? Latency?
@@shckltnebay none, but need to spend more time with it.
@@leoolivero963 Ive got the Ventris coming, selling my UA Golden most likly
This or the specular tempus?
Just got mine this week and this review was one of the big selling points. This is literally my foray into ambient tones and I would be hard pressed to find a more perfectly designed pedal for that.
Still have it? Any issues? Hiss?
@@shckltnebay yep still have it. It is in my worship rig. No issues with static or hiss, but it is a complete silent stage rig running into an HX Stomp, so no tube/electrical issues to contend with.
I do run it from a CIOKS DC7 power supply, so that gets rid of a bunch of other power related issues as well.
What issues are you having with it?
@@jerryhorton5708 Im thinking about getting one and read on Sweetwater reviews some issues with hiss and latency, I have a Zuma so power is not an issue, Just got the UA Golden and I not so sure its all it could be
@@shckltnebay The Collider is a great piece of gear, although it isn't perfect. The delays are excellent, but I find the reverbs to be a bit too digital for my taste; however, I use very minimal reverb for any of my other gigs, so take my opinion with a large grain of salt. I've never experience hiss or latency with the Collider, so it could be a defective unit for this player or just a junky signal chain. The only time I've ever had noise issues with this rig is when someone put a PoE injector under my board (I use a stereo Dante output). Cheap PoE injector introduced 60 cycle hum but that is going to happen, no matter how good the rest of your signal chain is - it's essentially a pretty powerful radio frequency at that minimal distance.
As an ambient tool, it is easy to use, simple to program, and has great tone for the music this board is dedicated to. The downsides? The DSP is a little bit of a limiting factor - you can run 1 delay and 1 'verb; or two 'verbs; or two delays. Don't get me wrong - that's fairly flexible, but it also becomes an issue when you need to run stacked delays and a big washy 'verb (I really don't have any scenarios when I would stack 'verbs). I also do not use the editing software as it seems to be a kludgy and I really don't need that much superfine tweakery - the knobs and my ear have sufficed for this long, so why make it more complicated? A minor issue (for me anyway) - the tap tempo is tricky as hell to use. I've added an outboard dual momentary switch, which is very helpful for setting tap tempo and switching between the four onboard presets. No plans to go full MIDI at this point, so I'm of little help there.
I would highly recommend it for players who need a good basic ambient tone, don't want to tweak through endless menus or editing software, and don't mind adding a second outboard delay if they need it.
My two cents, anyway...Cheers!
Good thing you said "literally". I 'd hate for anyone to think you were speaking rhetorically. Or hyperbolically. Or ironically. Thank you for making that distinction.
This one or Ventris Dual reverb?!
How's the spring reverb compare to the actual true spring pedal? It seems only that pedal has all the umphf and all other reverb are watered down versions of it.
Saurondor yes
Great vid!!!!.......very impressed with this pedal ......I am buying one (not like I need another - anything......I just have the disease ...).......have great day Henny!.....
Chaotic Embrace It’s called G.A.S. Gear Aquirey Syndrome
Just bought this over the weekend. Holy shitballs indeed. You can run the pedal in dual reverb or dual delay mode, but i get not reading a 51 page manual for a review :D
ANY HISS or noise issues? Latency?
Is it true that the Collider's preset switching takes between 200 ms and 1 second (when using Midi / Effects Switcher)? I would need something like the collider for my live pedalboard, but waiting a second for the sound to appear is not okay at all. Do you have any experience with that? I've also read that the delay/reverb unnaturally stops immediately when turning the collider of - is that true?
Did you find an answer to this Aleks? I have one and it is taking that long when switching between presets - whether switched using midi or the pedal itself
got one on a whim; i don't THINK it's going to replace my blue sky for my main reverb, even if it is possibly better at le reverbs. just simply because the bluesky is just so darn simple.
the delay side of the collider is also fantastic while finding sounds and tones, but again, while it is intuitive and easy to use, it's just not as easy as others i have at my disposal.
in the end though, the collider hasn't not been at my feet since i got it. so what do i know; other than i don't regret buying it. fantastic pedal
thanks for the video henning,
I guess you never knew about the unlock mode where you can use 2 reverbs or 2 delays at the same time when u made thia video
Love the PRS.
I wanted to hear the tone knob on the reverb. It can make a pedal. Give you a nicer warm analog type tone.
I’m really like this pedal. I’m looking at everything reverb computers pedals. Out there now. I currently am using an Oceans 11, Hall of Fame 2, Caline Snake Bite and Ernie Ball ambient delay for all of my reverb needs. Between those and my 3 OD pedals I’m tired of tap dancing. This looks like it can replace all of my reverbs in one box and midi. These videos are great keep it up. How else can we hear all of these pedals.
Ou
No matter how this sounds good, and maybe the best one out there at the moment soundwise, I still fancy the Seymour Duncan Dark Sun a bit more, THANKS TO the number of onboard presets, and the important thing: All outputs/inputs at the front of the pedal. Ok the SD is much bigger, but when putting this small pedal (the Collider) on your board you're ending up with just equally as much space to the left and right, because this one has outputs inputs on all sides, front, left, right and so on. Cramming everything in i such a small space, is going to reach some physical and optical limit at one point. You can't see the settings from above while standing, and you have to bend down and squint and put on your mondo magnifier glasses to see anything.
BTW Seymour Duncan Dark Sun hits the mark with it's 5 second delay max. You can do Frippertronics, and ambient soundcapes. Anything from 3 seconds and below (Collider has 2,5 seconds max) is too short really. But that's a niche effect that some doesn't really care for.
Great review! Thanks Henning.
Quick question, how do you think this compares to the Dark Sun by Seymour Duncan?
Henning, what if you are not a beginner, have been playing for 25 years, and you want a all bases covered type home practice amp (that you can record with too) what do you buy sub $400 US dollars?
possibly Katana, but I haven’t tried one yet
Source Audio is absolutely spanking the market with useful digital pedals lately. The best part is that you donMt just have a reverb engine and a delay engine, but TWO engines. Both can do BOTH, so dual delays, or a spring in a shimmer.....yes please!
Been an eventide/strymon guy for years, but the smallness, the simple design, the extra flexibility under the hood, the app, and the MIDI functionality......winner!
I have plenty of analog pedals when I want things to be kind of simple. When using digital, I want it to do anything I want.....cuz its digital. No limitations.
I loved this ad..Im sold :)
This or EHX Grand Canyon?
There's always time for stereo 😁
daaaamn.... you are right! Reshoot?
I might have liked to see how you set it up in stereo with the Synergy FX loop.
EytschPi42 does the Collider delays auto ping pong in stereo like the Nemesis? I watched a video comparing Nemesis to Timeline and the gentleman commented on the auto ping pong of delays when the pedal ran stereo out. Just curious ... love the video!
@@james.hatcher Yes they do and you can change the rhythm in the editor
@@LemonMeIon thank you
New pedal day! Can't wait to sit isolated in my home studio and make some noise!
Well this comment aged well.
I bet this would sound amazing with the clean from the carvin vld1 pedal . Which is another peal I plan on getting . My plan is to use my hughes and kettner black spirit really for the speaker Simulation only really. I'm going to have a y cable come out of the speaker simulation into my effects then from the stereo effects put with y cables from each side with one side of each side of the y cable with one side being able to feed direct into a board and the other side feeding a power amp . For the preamp section I'm just going to go into the clean channel of the bs with my kraken and a vai vld1 a carl martin dc drive , phaser and wha . This is the best set up I can figure out with stuff I all ready have and not complete changing out my rig and being able to go direct . I have three tube amps two head and one combo but one of them don't take pedals well at all and the old marshall is like a old harley davidson it works for a while then it's got to go in the shop . Really I have to much stuff as it is but going the bs route seems to be the best way to go to get the tones I want if any of what I described made sense . I guess I would not have to buy a power amp though and instead just get my marshall fixed again and run into it on one side and my music man 410 HD for the other . The trainwreck for as much as it was and as long as I had sounds good on its own but is very hard to tame and does not take pedals well at all except for a little bit of drive and a wah . I know this post was way to long but this is the best set up I can figure out with what I done have and still being able to get a good speaker simulation.
19:30 makes me pretty happy too. Not getting this pedal specifically, but 2 minutes listening to HP create majestic orchestral swells out of G, C2, G/B and D/F#, and my fun money for the next month just went to Neunaber for an Immerse Mk2. Got a few weeks cooped up at home waiting for COVID to burn itself out, gonna need some mood music.
"few weeks" lol
So you went with the neunabar immerse MK2 over this one? Cuz I am trying to decide between this pedal or getting an immerse MK2 and a boss dd8 or just getting this pedal.
@@jordanebacher I did. Ended up with the Immerse and the Avalanche Run. No presets but I like it that way, it doesn't have the problem Henning pointed out where you have that common control set. The pedal always shows you how it's set.
"I usually skip the room algo...cause I'm sitting in a room!" LOL facts
I bought their last pedal....seems pretty much similar....I haven't used it that much....the delay is nice though.....
What if I want to put my tremolo between my delay and my reverb? Is there an insert function?
no
@@EytschPi42 Probably yes. There's a split stereo option (one engine to right, the other to left). Using that, he should be able to go Collider In 1 - Out 1 - Tremolo - Collider In 2 - Collider Out 2 - Amp.
Probably should be checked and confirmed with Source Audio support line, though.
I have one of these pedals. I like it.
Great creamy bokeh on the long room shot. Nice tape delay top too
Would you recommend it over the H9 harmonizer?
I have both. If you just needed delay I would say perhaps - they are in the same league. If combining Reverb and delay and don’t need really deep editing then Collider would be best IMO. But the H9 gives you a lot of other FX algorithms and they keep developing effects and adding (go with Max!). Both have shimmer but I still prefer my Mr. Black Eterna for that effect...sigh.
Why does it have 2 inputs and 2 outputs? Are you supposed to use it with 2 guitarists and 2 amps?
Stereo
Love this pedal but I've grown tired of tweaking for tones over the years. Preferred a simple pedal that just delivers. The UAFX Starlight and Golden Reverberator are perfect for me and the tones have greater useability and nothing short of high end studio quality.
Why aren’t these guys as popular as Eventide/Strymon? This pedal is great!
Purely speculative, but my guess would be hype and esthetic. The Strymons are great, but I think it's largely due to them kinda being the first to the punch with all the big box stuff and being the only ones offering their vast feature set for some time.
BECAUSE GUITAR PLAYERS ARE CHEAPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!
Expensive?
@@Samhaim1234 so are Strymons
@@Rikamortis6stringer Cheap, salty and tribalistic. 🎯
you need the lock function so the switch is fine, three settings not two.
21:45 I could listen to 3 hours of this pedal. I need to sell a kidney so I can get this pedal.
do stereo lazy man, you have lots of amps and audio interface thingies
it sounds cool on headphones
or don't
Hey Henning. Looking at your Mr Googoo shirt of tapes made me realize you need one of stripes of multi-colored duct tape. Maybe with the Friedman logo somewhere in it.
Skid Row approved, good to know!
Yes! David Shimmer!
that room sound man!! wow1!!!!!!111one!!11
What’s the phaser in your animal shelter music?
don’t remember
EytschPi42
Okay, thanks!
I have the Nemesis Delay... Does it make since to get the collider?
Bashar, i had a Nemesis as well. loved it, and then I got a Ventris, which was amazing, but I realized, though they both have alot of fun stuff. there's just some wouldn't use in alot live, and didn't want to take up all the room on my board with both. so i returned the Ventris, got a Collider and put the Nemesis on my wife's board (so technically , i still have it ;) plus whats cool for me about Collider, is i can control everything i want for both delay & reverb with just one expression and one external foot switch, which wouldn't be as easy with both. but having said that, there are of coarse a ton of killer reverb pedals if you wanted to retain your Nemesis.
@@joekimberlin264 Joe you’re absolutely correct what I did is I went for the Neunaber Immerse MKII reverb to compensate for there reverb side I haven’t got it yet but I believe it will do the job until I get the collider one day. The nemesis to me is more important than the Ventris especially when I have known it very well and it sounds great.
just ordered one. it’s going to be a long week.
The power of Dick Dale compels you! Animals at the end :)