Choosing Composite Reinforcements for Impact Strength; Kevlar, Carbon, Innegra, Diolen

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    This tutorial is the third in a four-part series following a project to make lightweight, super-tough sledges for a polar world-record expedition. Find out about the project in this interview with Expedition Coordinator Alex Hibbert: • The Dark Ice Project I...
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    ► Diolen Cloth www.easycomposites.co.uk/300g...
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  • @mhgscrubadub9917
    @mhgscrubadub9917 3 роки тому +135

    Damn this channel really just taught me more about material science in 15min than a semester-long ME class

    • @Veldtian1
      @Veldtian1 2 роки тому +6

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    @iantoguy2613 Рік тому +3

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  • @Ataraxia_Atom
    @Ataraxia_Atom 3 роки тому +133

    This is an amazing channel. Thank you for the information. I've decided to start my own carbon fiber project thanks to you. Cheers

    • @chaseweeks2708
      @chaseweeks2708 3 роки тому +9

      Right there with you. Once I finally get space to do it, fenders and hood will be my eventual goal.

    • @Ataraxia_Atom
      @Ataraxia_Atom 3 роки тому +3

      @@chaseweeks2708 hell yeah good luck when you get there. "Santa" got me a one wheel so I'm going to make a fender. After watching this episode I'm learning toward that diolen cloth. It's actually really affordable.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +16

      Fabulous to hear folks, good luck with your ventures/projects!

  • @amadeo4977
    @amadeo4977 Рік тому +7

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    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  Рік тому +1

      Glad we are able to help at a decent cost even as far as the USA away from us.

  • @TheMrBrianh
    @TheMrBrianh 2 роки тому +1

    Alex Hibbert has 40,700 subscribers. I am one of them. That being said thank you for supporting him. He seems like a solid chap.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      Yes is is, he's also a keen composites enthusiast and a long standing customer so it was great to do something with him. He's producing a fascinating series on the restoration of 'Allan', the lifeboat, that he's been doing through lock-down (which I'm sure you're following on 'alex hibbert originals').

  • @bobjoatmon1993
    @bobjoatmon1993 3 роки тому +106

    What would be interesting is a sandwich of Kevlar core with Diolen outer to see if the advantages of both combine in a superior way.

    • @robertweekley5926
      @robertweekley5926 3 роки тому +3

      BOB - Yes! In my younger days, I had multiple Fabrics Bonded together, for just this idea! Then I had S-Glass, Kevlar, & Carbon Fibre, to work with, but only small samples, and no testing gear!

    • @gtxviper
      @gtxviper 3 роки тому

      Was about to type the exact thing.

    • @ClaytonwFirth
      @ClaytonwFirth 3 роки тому

      I was thinking the same thing. I’m sure a mix of 3 or 4 of the materials would be a good combo..

    • @urano1988
      @urano1988 3 роки тому +7

      Yep, compositing the composites! I was thinking the same.

    • @pierrelezan
      @pierrelezan 3 роки тому +15

      afaik it isn't very interesting to mix multiple composite because they don't flex/break the same way :
      because it almost doesn't flex the carbon will take all the load and break first
      then all the load will be on the others layers and again the stiffer remaining material break first
      One way it could be beneficial is on multiple features of the same piece where the stress is different

  • @twowheelsabove
    @twowheelsabove 2 роки тому +2

    11:20 loved that prepreg introduction! =)

  • @dantheman642
    @dantheman642 3 роки тому +18

    I can't stop watching these very educational videos on composites. Help for beginners with well laid out formats and directs you to their products. UA-cam PERFECTION!

  • @themiddleman9376
    @themiddleman9376 3 роки тому +8

    We need a video comparing different layering techniques, or combinations of different fibres.

  • @markandoyo2204
    @markandoyo2204 Рік тому

    This is more intriguing channel here to seen those existing materiale inventory that I've never been found wayback more than 20 years ago

  • @tyapka
    @tyapka 3 роки тому +1

    The level of particularity is from another world on this channel.

  • @danielwlodawer1282
    @danielwlodawer1282 2 роки тому +6

    I would like to see which results a combination of a flexible structure (Innegra/Diolen) and a high load structure (Kevlar/carbon) compares.

  • @curvs4me
    @curvs4me 2 роки тому +14

    I'm reviewing here and I'll venture that wet sanded and buffed graphite infused resin would be slickest in both categories. Of course kevlar is often used as an outside layer because it's unbeatable against grinding friction. Incredibly difficult to wear through a kevlar splitter where a carbon one will disappear with every passing contact. A kevlar outer layer, followed by a few layers of innegra, and stiffened on the inside with carbon is the best multicomposite mix. If you have a human on the inside, layers of kevlar prevent carbon fiber intrusion in your soft parts. High end carbon aircraft line the cockpit with kevlar for that reason. In the multi layer I described previously, the layers of innegra diffuse the impact over a larger area. Material combinations absolutely work and are frequently used in aerospace.

    • @christopheb9221
      @christopheb9221 2 роки тому +2

      I was also thinking about mixing these materials but not just multilayered; what about using a different material threads in a weave or mixing the materials fibers one process up when being spun into a thread

    • @curvs4me
      @curvs4me 2 роки тому +1

      @@christopheb9221 you can get it. Spread tow triaxial fabric carbon/kevlar is as light as it gets with stiffness but a little flex before breaking.

    • @williamduffield4964
      @williamduffield4964 2 роки тому +1

      The issue with Kevlar is it does not join to inself at all well so i would be using it as the core material. And you cant sand it, it just fluffs up.

  • @LesAventuresDeTigRRe
    @LesAventuresDeTigRRe 3 роки тому +2

    I love your vids. This kind of info is difficult to come by. Whether it is the materials properties explained, or the build techniques you so kindly give to the DIY world.

  • @Boscovius
    @Boscovius Рік тому

    Paul is, hands down, THE BEST composites instructor EVA!

  • @delinlo
    @delinlo 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for making all these videos, I learn so much from all of them and my composite projects have gotten so much better since I've started watching your videos!

  • @MechGuyver
    @MechGuyver Рік тому +1

    Awesome video and great info within. Kudos.

  • @andreywrubel8186
    @andreywrubel8186 2 роки тому

    So many knowledge and experience in one video.. thanks your team so much!

  • @tifjosi
    @tifjosi 3 роки тому +2

    It's alive! Lovely channel!

  • @Trihannes
    @Trihannes 2 роки тому +2

    One of the most informative if not the most informative channels on youtube! No long talking, straight into the testing and results.
    I really love this channel!

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      Appreciate the really kind feedback, it's comments like this why we keep uploading videos!

  • @SalSpaceKhan
    @SalSpaceKhan 2 роки тому +1

    I just discovered your videos and they're some of the best out there even if I don't fully understand all of it! Love it! Thank you!

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      Appreciate the kind feedback! We'll have more videos up soon :)

  • @dynomike11
    @dynomike11 3 роки тому

    Really outstanding job explaining the application, what you are testing for, explaining results - very clear!

  • @Artresin
    @Artresin 3 роки тому +4

    you folks are amazing! inspiring high-end work as always.

  • @jayfeaver8243
    @jayfeaver8243 3 роки тому +1

    I love the clarity and use of actual strength test in this video. Very nice method and explaination of your reasoning. J

  • @TechnoComposites
    @TechnoComposites 3 роки тому +1

    Very vivid and transparent shown.

  • @PaukSK
    @PaukSK 2 роки тому

    You have a lovely and clean shop. Thanks for the test results.

  • @IainMcClatchie
    @IainMcClatchie 2 роки тому +1

    This is really good engineering. Good job.
    Nice clean short explanation of why to choose various materials.

  • @hoss2200
    @hoss2200 3 роки тому +2

    Like I said before... You are doing a great job with all this information. I am an automotive technician and also a construction worker for many years. I see the need for this materials in both fields. You have just answered the question I had in my mind about resistance to impact of carbon fiber. Thanks

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      You're most welcome, glad you're finding this information helpful.

  • @amitaimedan
    @amitaimedan 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video!

  • @EZ_shop
    @EZ_shop 3 роки тому +7

    Extremely interesting video

  • @aerobyrdable
    @aerobyrdable 3 роки тому +2

    Please, All the *this*! All the youtube of this right here. Solid qualitative results plus with reasonable methodology equals an approachable and informative video for us real world problem solvers. Keep it up! I'll be looking at you guys when it comes time to buy.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much Ryan, your feedback is appreciate. We’re problem solvers too, less theory, more ‘what will make a different *today*’. Look forward to working with you.

  • @billfromgermany
    @billfromgermany 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant video!

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 3 роки тому +1

    Best videos in the webs!
    You have taught me so much over the years.
    Thank you.
    🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀🍀🍀

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Thank you for the feedback Steve, good to hear from you.

  • @hallkbrdz
    @hallkbrdz 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, and very useful for what I'm doing. I need to construct a battery box for a sprint kart with 420 18650 cells. Impact strength and structural strength are key, along with light weight. Kevlar looks like the best choice of these, and is much superior in terms of weight compared to thin welded aluminum plate, plus it's almost non-conductive.

  • @remkojerphanion4686
    @remkojerphanion4686 3 роки тому +1

    That was a really interesting and clear video, thanks! As a RC boat fanatic, I find these video's a veritable gold mine of information!

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Remko, glad you enjoyed it!

    • @remkojerphanion4686
      @remkojerphanion4686 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv I'm already looking forward to the next video.... :)

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 3 роки тому

      I was hoping to find videos of your RC boats on your channel. No such luck.
      I think it would be a lot of fun to see your boats.
      I agree with you about these videos. They're great.

  • @MrAuzzie82
    @MrAuzzie82 3 роки тому +4

    As someone who is VERY interested in the fast lightweight vehicles, I love this video and would love more that delve into predicting strength and selecting materials and techniques to meet those strength requirements.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Austin, we'll certainly do more on material selection in the future.

    • @MrAuzzie82
      @MrAuzzie82 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv thank you! I will be looking forward to it!

  • @bigbothoee8617
    @bigbothoee8617 Рік тому

    Beautiful simply beautiful

  • @fabricebrun9287
    @fabricebrun9287 3 роки тому

    Great video nice to see some tests of different fibers 👍

  • @jacobbuxton932
    @jacobbuxton932 2 роки тому

    Excellent video

  • @manudehanoi
    @manudehanoi 2 роки тому

    fantastic vid, thanks guys, this is what good sales is about.

  • @amirfathirad2965
    @amirfathirad2965 3 роки тому

    i cant wait for the next video and really wish you make more videos

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Amir, we're doing our best! The final part on this one won't be long.

    • @amirfathirad2965
      @amirfathirad2965 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv thank you so much also if you can make a tutorial about composite planes please, thank you so much for all your hard work

    • @amirfathirad2965
      @amirfathirad2965 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv you are the best, i almost learned all i know about composite with your toturials and matthieu libert page, your page gave me enough confidence to make parts myself and i never can thank you enough for it, you and matthieu

  • @ErtsenPlayGames
    @ErtsenPlayGames 3 роки тому +6

    next episode maybe test more materials like basalt , glass comparsion 0/90* to 45/45* etc ,
    weight to stiffness etc

  • @foolwise4703
    @foolwise4703 2 роки тому

    This video should be on your shops learning section! I was just looking for exactly this video there and was about to comment somewhere that you should make one, but here it is :D
    Man great channel!

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      Hi, thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video! All of our videos can be found on our website here; www.easycomposites.co.uk/learning.

    • @foolwise4703
      @foolwise4703 2 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv Oh, thats where I looked, but it seems like I was just blind. Sorry^^

  • @CameronCarter1
    @CameronCarter1 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Thanks.

  • @espacesX
    @espacesX 3 роки тому +2

    Alpine Skiers have highly molecular Graphite sintered contact surface to the snow. The contact surface get an structured surface finish. The same when you apply wax on it. You brush the wax to reintroduce the structured surface.
    Structuring reduces adhesion and friction.
    Well on the slides for the expedition you will have the gelcoat, and you won't do waxing, but better think about microstructured surface.
    Furthermore there is electrostatic charging and the resulting brake effect.
    The Graphite in the contact surface of an Alpine Ski is most important here.
    There was the Blizzard V20 RS (Giant Slalom). Originally highly oversaturated with graphite. The FIS requested Blizzard to reduce the amount of Graphite even in the serial production Ski. I still have one pair before the Change of the recipe. This Ski is infernal fast.
    My proposal would be to experiment with gelcoat which is saturated with Graphite and get an structured finish.
    A company which could be on your wavelenght regarding Innovation and Challenge is e.g. Völkl / Voelkl (Straubing, Germany). Maybe they have an idea how to structure a gelcoat.
    They've invented the Speedwall(s), which is(are) the Sidewall(s) of the Ski. This Speedwall is structured as well and gets waxed as Well.
    Just think about this Speedwall in gelcoat. That could be a explanation, which the Völkl / Voelkl Experts understand.
    Would be Teflon /PTFE too soft for the Skids?

    • @AH-ns2wh
      @AH-ns2wh 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the considered input here, and it's something @easycomposites and I have discussed prototyping in future, but where there's time to test/break and not on a critical expedition. The impact resilience of PTFE meant it was discounted.

  • @ifell3
    @ifell3 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!!

  • @qcnck2776
    @qcnck2776 3 роки тому +6

    I'm glad to see the friction testing after sanding. I would have thought that this would be a big concern for the sled. The runners or other gliding surfaces may become abraded after several tens of miles of hauling, and testing the friction results of pristine surfaces may not reflect changes with use.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +7

      Yes, that’s what we thought too, although, as mentioned in the video, the Dark Ice team said that generally the underside of the sledges come back almost as new.

    • @AH-ns2wh
      @AH-ns2wh 3 роки тому +4

      If you avoid rock/grit, the gelcoats usually end up with almost no abrasion over ice and snow. I have a sledge that's done over 1500miles, and has a perfect 'as new' gloss surface still. Oddly, here we found the sanded graphite-filled resin was lower in friction, so an improvement compared to unsanded/glossy, filled epoxy.

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 3 роки тому

      @@AH-ns2wh Darn, no videos of your sledge on your channel. I think it would be fun to see your sledge.

    • @AH-ns2wh
      @AH-ns2wh 3 роки тому

      @@ddegn Aha! It's heading out onto the ice this winter. Stay tuned.

  • @francoisrochefort5759
    @francoisrochefort5759 3 роки тому +4

    Love those videos

  • @AboutComposites
    @AboutComposites 3 роки тому +1

    excellent study

  • @MattTucker
    @MattTucker 2 роки тому +7

    Very interesting test comparisons. It would be great to see the failure chart done with strength to weight instead of just purely strength. It would really give you an idea of the true difference between the products because weight is very often a big consideration for any laminate.
    Love the videos though, keep up the good work!

  • @rohanpuri1989
    @rohanpuri1989 3 роки тому +1

    Good one. Please make a video on split mold infusion and rtm

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Hi Rohan, yes, we’ll do this. The next video is a very in-depth infusion guide, it’s not split so won’t cover what you’re after, but certainly will have a lot of useful information for you.

  • @edsuver1
    @edsuver1 3 роки тому +2

    The first thing I'd do is ask what the ski and snowboard builders use for the bearing surface and do that, including the waxing process directly before use. That's not a new technology, and if you wanted to make sure your resin bonds well to it, just test a piece. The difference between skiing on wax thats seen just a few days of use is noticeable when you rewax them, it's way more slippery.

  • @conniestevenson226
    @conniestevenson226 3 роки тому

    Love the experiments.

  • @msheremet
    @msheremet 3 роки тому +1

    waiting for the next video!)

  • @anatineduo4289
    @anatineduo4289 2 роки тому

    great stuff

  • @mr.robert1416
    @mr.robert1416 2 роки тому

    THIS IS SO INTERESTING!

  • @Talisman-tb6vw
    @Talisman-tb6vw 3 роки тому

    This is great info as I am making parts for sports cars and needed to know what material would have the best resistence to impact - primarily rocks thrown up by the tires into the fender well. Currently the cars have ABS, but when it gets cold it fractures. Having a combination of materials would probably be the best and I've settled on carbon/kevlar for the wheel side and carbon fiber for the engine side. Thanks for the series - I'm looking forward to the next one to see how you lay up the sledge.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Great, glad it's been interesting/useful. We hope your project goes well :)

  • @shanewilson3653
    @shanewilson3653 3 роки тому +3

    UHMWPE will require mechanical fixing to the sled, It is very hard to get adhesion to UHMWPE in surfaces that flex. If you wanted to attach a sheet of it to the sled I would recommend milling fine dovetail grooves at a 50% material fill rate or impregnating a stainless exposed mesh to act a a "keying" material.
    If it was something rigid than Loctite and other corporations offer primers for low energy plastics but in practice the suffer from adhesive release in high impact or inconstant surface stretching situations.
    Silicon spray or CRC 2-26 are both great Hydrophobic lubricants and coatings that flex and won't damage Most** plastics.
    WD40 and CRC5-56 will yellow and damage plastics but will temporarily act as a good hydrophobic coating but is still not recommended.

    • @evolutionxone
      @evolutionxone 2 роки тому

      Any worries with silicone spray contamination of the shop/paint booth/molds?

  • @hello7gods362
    @hello7gods362 3 роки тому +1

    More tec info like this please.

  • @filippaoronto3880
    @filippaoronto3880 2 роки тому

    You people are awesome ! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Filippao, thanks for your comment! Glad you enjoy the content!

  • @MatthieuLibeert
    @MatthieuLibeert 3 роки тому

    Great video! Nice testing and well explained! Was just a bit disappointed not seeing the carbon/Kevlar hybrid in the testing as I assume it is designed to solve the problem of having to chose between Kevlar or carbon for stiffness or impact! Keep up the good work, can't wait for the next video 👌

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +3

      Hi Matt, thanks for your comments. Maybe we should have included carbon/Kevlar but we had to decide to stop somewhere. There were lots of other fibres we could have tested (PBO, UMHMPE etc.) and then there are hybrids of all of these fibres. We could probably have tested 20 laminates and still missed some obvious combinations. To address carbon/Kevlar specifically, although it might seem an obvious choice, the problem with a hybrid like this, for this application, is the failure mode: because Kevlar offers less stiffness and has a higher elongation than the carbon, in the event of a heavy impact on a carbon/Kevlar hybrid the Kevlar can (potentially) elongate past the maximum strain of the carbon, the carbon will break, leaving the Kevlar holding things together but possibly doing only that, holding it together. If you had another 2 months to drag a compromised sledge across the ice, you'd probably wish you'd made it all out of Kevlar.

  • @camwillie6827
    @camwillie6827 Рік тому

    I rarely comment on UA-cam videos but I must say I am incredibly impressed by this and all your videos. I've watched about ten tonight alone, and plan to finish the series and review as needed. Thank you so much. Could you elaborate a little on the method (calculation) for obtaining bending stress data from (I presume) force data provided by the testing rig? I seem to remember doing some of that in school but I cannot remember the process.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  Рік тому

      On our testing machine, depending how you set it up, it will actually give usable stress and strain data without doing further calculations and will give the data needed to draw the graphs seen in the video.

  • @tejeshwvardhan1165
    @tejeshwvardhan1165 3 роки тому +3

    Use UHMWPE sheet to reduce friction!

  • @CarbonGlassMan
    @CarbonGlassMan 7 місяців тому

    We've used Innegra before, but if I remember right, ours was white. To cut the dry cloth we had to tape both sides and use a cut off wheel on a die grinder to cut it. We couldn't cut it with scissors. It's what they're using as the tether material for Indycars to tether the wheels, nose, etc to the tubs.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  7 місяців тому

      innegra and aramid based fabrics will cut with dedicated aramid shears

  • @styletokill
    @styletokill 3 роки тому +2

    Hi!
    I had Zwick build me a friction test rig that can be used with the crosshead in the machine (does not work with videoextentiometer). This is not to be used for an absolute value, only comparative use. Is there a particular reason for not performing a tensile test? If you are following a IEC standard, Im am pretty shure that it is requiered to freeze the samples for a specific amount of time.
    Nice video and an interesting project!

  • @onepairofhands
    @onepairofhands 3 роки тому +1

    top presentation

  • @mollyjohnson6517
    @mollyjohnson6517 2 роки тому

    Very interesting. Much of this applies to canoes as well. I would love to learn more about how combining layers would impact weight and strength of a 16 foot prospector canoe. The work horse of the north.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      Hi Molly, well, you might be very interested to see one of our forthcoming tutorials where we make a 16ft canoe! Make sure you’re subscribed 😀

  • @sheanbean3047
    @sheanbean3047 3 роки тому +1

    What’s a good way to simulate the energy demand when manufacturing natural and synthetic FRPC

  • @hannesaltenfelder4302
    @hannesaltenfelder4302 3 роки тому +3

    That's a very professional material comparison.
    I hope you make a comparison for a hangglider, too.
    I really wonder what would be the lightest options for a Klingberg mk2.
    Also, if there is a signifant difference between high pressure carbon fiber vs laminated vs braided(?)

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Hanes, that might be a bit too specific for a general audience but we’ll try to keep providing more general guidance that would be applicable to projects like a hang glider.

  • @CKOD
    @CKOD 3 роки тому +3

    What did you have in mind for bonding the UHMW film? Ive used scotchweld DP-8005 with great success for bonding 3d printed brackets to pelican cases (polypropylene blend) but thats not exactly a laminating resin. IIRC it has a rather potent chemical that was a cross linker to allow it to cross link the acrylic adhesive base to typically chemical resistant plastics (UMHWPE, POM, PE, PP, PTFE, etc) but it was also good at cross-linking DNA and being carcinogenic, so I would actually make sure to use it in a fume hood, be mindful of gloves, rather than the more casual way that something like JB weld may get used.

  • @jdrissel
    @jdrissel 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder if you should test molybdenum disulfide and/or teflon? Is it even comparable with gell coat? I have heard of using teflon filled epoxy as an anti adhesive surface. It is just about impossible to repair though, and I have always wondered about the moly...

  • @JunoW712
    @JunoW712 3 роки тому +5

    Very interesting video! What about the carbon fiber and kevlar blend ?

    • @RubyByte
      @RubyByte 3 роки тому +3

      Would love this as well

  • @xiaosun9111
    @xiaosun9111 3 роки тому +1

    appreciated!

  • @timothyadem8354
    @timothyadem8354 3 роки тому +1

    I want to make a concrete mould that pushes out the content after it is formed and I was thinking of using a fibreglass to help me form the shape and reinforce it with steel to give it extra strength to avoid bulging, can it really work?

  • @guigui78340
    @guigui78340 2 роки тому

    would be interesting to see the yield results on those materials based on similar density rather than similar thickness to take advantage of their properties

  • @jeremymcginnis7258
    @jeremymcginnis7258 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm interested in how fiberglass would compare.

  • @AlitaGunm99
    @AlitaGunm99 2 роки тому

    I'd be curious to see the same tests on S-glass.

  • @ghislaindevouton5301
    @ghislaindevouton5301 6 місяців тому

    Great video ! I'm wondering what would be the outcome of the impact test if the constraint is to keep the integrity of the structure behind the laminate. My use case is a carbon sandwich sailboat bow with a sacrificial shield to protect from log strikes). Deflection become a more important factor which may place the carbon back on top of the leaderboard.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  5 місяців тому +1

      You would probably want some kind of foam between the two surfaces so that the foam absorbs the deflection of the outer layer to prevent excess energy being transmitted into the structure behind.

  • @HandyC
    @HandyC 3 роки тому +1

    Just seen a video from a company developing a new eco friendly delivery vehicle and they were using flax composite.. Remembered watching this video, so I thought I'd come back and ask if you have or would do a comparison update with that, see how viable it is...

  • @philipwilkie3239
    @philipwilkie3239 3 роки тому +4

    I'd be interested to know your view on basalt fibre. It's main feature is a very high impact resistance.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +3

      To be totally honest Philip, we don't have much experience of basalt fibre. We'll bear it in mind for the future.

  • @FlexDRG
    @FlexDRG 2 роки тому

    Very nice tests.
    And here's the But... What about hybrid composites? Layering the white fibers with keflar in the center?
    Don't know how many layers were used but putting about a third of them as Keflar in the middle of the stack would make for an interesting test I would think.
    And on a side note, testing impact with the outercoat applied would be important to. To see how the coat gets damaged in the process and what that would do for the friction with the ice and snow.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      The tests shown were designed specifically for the sledge and its expected use so we have had to limit the scope of what was tested and shown. But yes there could be a lot of different combinations tested that might have different results.

  • @Youmemba
    @Youmemba 3 роки тому +1

    My carbon bike has Kevlar inserts in the front and back forks

  • @dimitricherny
    @dimitricherny 3 роки тому

    Some company has a hybrid fabric weaving innegra with basalt fibers. Basalt fibers have about the same strength as e-glass. But the combination of the two seems to provide the durability of the innegra with strength of fiberglass. It would be very interesting to see you two destructive tests done on that material.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Hi Dimitri, thanks for the comment. Indeed there are hundreds of different 'hybrid' fabrics which combine properties of different fibre types, unfortunately it would go on almost forever if we'd tested all of these materials! Basalt/Innegra could be interesting, as would basalt/glass. Maybe we'll do a video all about hybrid fabrics in the future which would allow us to dive deeper into those type of reinforcements in paricular.

  • @wolfenstien13
    @wolfenstien13 2 роки тому

    Cool video. Would Teflon had been a good frictionless coating?

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому

      Hi, thanks for your comment. Teflon had been considered but its difficulty of application in this context ruled out its use

  • @slimtabka
    @slimtabka 3 роки тому +1

    Hello, thx for all the different videos, can you please make a video about all different kind of release agents and how to apply them on glassy or normal surface to be as smooth as possible and without haziness?or how mant layer needed .?? etc .... I think it's nice subject for a video

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Hi Slim, thanks for the suggestion. Yes, that would make quite a useful video. Not likely to be a million-viewer but certainly of interest to those actually working with composite materials. We'll keep it in mind.

    • @slimtabka
      @slimtabka 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv thanks for taking into consideration my proposal, it might not get 1M views but who knows since there's no video speaking about the subject in detail, you might be suprised. and Since there a lot of types of releases so you can cover a lot of topics (which purpose for each release agent?, how to apply? which one to choose for each case?) etc ... it will definitly be a good learning material for beginners and people with intermediate level.

  • @fredygump5578
    @fredygump5578 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent! I don't want to sound greedy, but I would sure like to see more about engineering propeties of composites. Maybe even principles for controlling directional strength and flexibility? I'm trying to combine light weight and flexibility, with localized rigidity. I've taught myself a couple tricks so far, but I know there is a lot I don't know!

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Hi Freddy, thanks for the feedback and suggestions. We’d like to do more on these subjects too so we’ll keep this in mind.

  • @TheExcellentVideoChannel
    @TheExcellentVideoChannel 2 роки тому

    Can electrostatically charging a surface reduce it's friction with ice? Is that something you do? Awesome video , many thanks.

  • @snoopymec
    @snoopymec 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Paul,
    Very interesting approach in the comparison between materials! Really enjoy the way you present the videos! Congrats man!!!
    But I'm wondering here... It's known that sailboats for high latitude sailing are made of aluminum due to strength and elongation against an ice impact.
    Do you believe that the results you got are applicable for composite hulls in a high latitude sailing?

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Paulo, well, we certainly don't claim to be breaking any new ground here, this is - as much as anything - a demonstration of what is already known about the materials we tested. But, to answer your question, it would certainly be possible to engineer and composite hull that would outperform an aluminium hull in all respects, given the right design, testing and construction. This is because there are just far many more options available in a composite laminate than there are with aluminium, and because many of the materials available significantly outperform aluminium, therefore it's just inevitable that a composite hull, done right, would be unbeatable.

    • @AH-ns2wh
      @AH-ns2wh 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv There are also different requirements for ship hulls vs expedition sledges, and of course in the renewed/curious use of stainless steel in modern space craft. Metals, unless carefully and robustly coated, could cause issues with icing on snow surfaces, and would be a hazard if in contact with bare skin as they conduct heat so fast.

  • @Algezas1977
    @Algezas1977 2 роки тому

    Thanks for great video, guys. So witch of these materials would you recommend for skateboard? At this moment I have plenty of Kevlar-carbon hybrid fiber. But maybe it's not the best material, as I understood from your tutorial?

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  2 роки тому +1

      Depends on the specific design but all the materials could and have been used in the past, Even natural fibres can be used.

    • @Algezas1977
      @Algezas1977 2 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv thank you very much!

  • @Test-ri2kr
    @Test-ri2kr 3 роки тому +1

    At 9:40 if you covered all the materials with laminated resin, how can the friction between each material be different? Unless I’m missing something

  • @KJ7JHN
    @KJ7JHN 3 роки тому +1

    Have you tried wax on the substrate? Works for surfboards, may work with colder weather too.

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Damon, yes, indeed, waxing PTEX (as found on skis and snowboards) used for the runners on the sledge would reduce friction so I guess the team probably do do that on the runners but potentially could do it on the belly too.

  • @justinw1765
    @justinw1765 3 роки тому +1

    Another issue with carbon is that is highly thermally conductive. The epoxy resin will lessen this quite a bit, but one of the things that can happen with carbon is that as the water is melting on the surface from friction, it may start to refreeze faster increasing friction.
    On the other hand, kevlar, polyester, and polypropylene are much less thermally conductive and would insulate the sled from the above better.
    But with the epoxy resin, there probably isn't that much of a difference between all of them in this regard since the resin can make up a good percentage of the overall material, and epoxy resin is much more similar to kevlar, polyester, and PP in that regard (since these are all essentially plastics).

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      The layer of epoxy and the prolonged time in the cold environment for the sleds themselves mean they will likely be close to the ambient temperature for most of the in service usage so the material differences is not such a big issue.

  • @texaswildcat2000
    @texaswildcat2000 3 роки тому +1

    I've learned more through this company than any videos I've watched from U.S. based companies..Extemely informative.....Now, the question is, what combination of these materials will give you the best strength to weight ratio in all areas....I'm thinking a layer of carbon as outer for initial impact strength, then a layer of kevlar, and finish with 2 layers of diolen....let the carbon takes the initial hit, the kevlar backing that up and then the diolen as a method of extending the overall strenth with some flexibility should the carbon and kevlar completely fail on impact....oh, the ideas that come to mind...I bet it would be great fun making and testing various combinations of these materials...as well as educational...OR, maybe diolen exterior layers, 2, then kevlar, then carbon....hmmm...ideas....

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому +1

      It entirely depends on the design of the part, there is no set answer. You would ideally need to do comparative structural calculations or testing to sort the best combination.

    • @texaswildcat2000
      @texaswildcat2000 3 роки тому

      @@easycompositestv Couldn't agree more...I think it would be enjoyable, along with educational, to do a lot of various testing combinations for various applications...

  • @burakgul5508
    @burakgul5508 3 роки тому +2

    Now I know what my dream job is

  • @ericsassaalders1079
    @ericsassaalders1079 3 роки тому +1

    Helpful video tutorial, to imagine my upcoming project. Thank you for that. But i do have a question about the calculation that is being used for tensile strength. Because how did you know that this was good enough for this build? It would be really helpful for me, if you can make a tutorial on this. Cheers

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      The testing here was done purely for comparative figures rather than specific structural calculations. Mechanical data for structural calculations is available and commonly used, however it doesn't always show the full picture hence the slightly modified testing as well as the impact rig and friction testing to tailor it for this specific project.

  • @williamtran2069
    @williamtran2069 3 роки тому +1

    can we mix all this materials :| will it be stronger

  • @DivineWerezwolf
    @DivineWerezwolf 2 роки тому

    Ide like to see Material composites, it would be interesting to see.

  • @user-py5km6np1s
    @user-py5km6np1s 9 місяців тому

    Wonder what the test would show for a Kevlar/Carbon hybrid?

  • @englishsexy31
    @englishsexy31 3 роки тому +1

    I bought a stack of stuff from you all ready all very good extremely happy, just want to point out I have an odd expertise in graphene and burnt toast, is very good good so in with a mould release agent and left on the surface they can be good good protecting against extreme cold or used for instance on an exhaust. graphene which is the inside of a pencil if you, zap some in a blender and leave it on a surface yes it has very good lubrication qualities probably for the outside of the Sledge or somewhere were wingnut works against a piece of carbon fibre that doesn't want to get locked into position cosmetically are not very attractive but extremely functional please do more videos excellent stuff

    • @easycompositestv
      @easycompositestv  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment and your custom. I'm slightly intrigued by your expertise in 'burnt toast', maybe it's a language thing, or humour, or maybe you really do have a niche expertise in overly toasted bread!? Either way we wish you well and look forward to hearing what you're making with the materials you've ordered from us :)

    • @englishsexy31
      @englishsexy31 3 роки тому +1

      @@easycompositestv NO,,,, if you put some burnt toast in your hand and then put a blow torch on it ,,, you cannot feel the heat thru the burnt toast ,,, its thermal qualities are verry dificult to beat with anny other man made substance ,,, even try making bread in the shape you want , carbonizing it and covering it in your best heat resistant resin , so im thinking exausts , hot engine parts etc ,,,, if you dont belive me just google youtube ,,, thermal qualities of burnt toast ,,, !!!! also heeeeed my word ,,, putting graphene which is an ultra gtood machanical lubricant , on the top layer ov your mould release so it comes out and sticks to the resin ,,, im using it to make guitar frets where wire strings rub over the frets constantly ,,,, it also conducts and stores electrical current ,,, please use your creative minds for this one ,,,, i love your products and vidios by the way ,,,,, please more ok !

  • @BeaverLakeMotorsports
    @BeaverLakeMotorsports 3 роки тому +1

    How does a carbon kevlar sample compare performance wise relative to these?