*SunWei's version:* ua-cam.com/video/B7D5HnKDyIw/v-deo.html || *Weekly Boss Guide (Eroded Primal Fire Lord):* ua-cam.com/video/wQNd_kIn8PI/v-deo.html *DISCLAIMER:* Make no mistake, I understand the boss is simple/limited, but the fact that Ororon *is not given to us for free* and we have to drag wildlife into the battle as a pseudo-5th party member to *take advantage of a recommended in-game mechanic* is poor design. Also, *this is not a viable tactic in future potential Abyss/events.* If Ororon was free, I'd be FAR less upset about it, but for now, *literally locking a core mechanic of this boss fight behind limited characters is no bueno, no matter how easy the enemy may be.* *Timestamps for Mobile:* 00:00 - Happy New Year/Pre-Fight Ramble. 00:45 - I'm Disappointed, miHoYo. Also, BIRB 01:25 - How to Get to the Boss Fight 02:32 - Boss Guide Character Selection Reasonings 03:08 - Character Selection and Build 03:54 - Remember You Can Eat Food! 04:07 - Boss Fight Begins 04:44 - Ice Clone Boss Attack/DPS Phase 06:09 - Ororon Demonstration (Masters of the Night Wind) 07:09 - Ororon Demonstration #2 08:06 - End of Boss Fight + Parting Words
I get that most people hate this boss, kinda like the constrct boss where we need children of echo unit or saurian to climb that pillar. I mean, they're in Natlan, of course they gonna stick with natlan mechanics obviously yknow for the gimmick. But for this boss i kinda agreed. 1:18 this is the problem. Like hoyo gotta put Iktomisaur near the boss arena tho, if they needs us to use the master of the nightwind power to fight easier against her. Especially those that didn't have ororon or citlali. So hoyo can introduce new boss mechanics fight, BUT they need to put the stuff we need closer the boss area. That's it.
Thanks for having cognitive function. And I wonder how the average player without anything too crazy is gonna properly fight this thing in Abyss if they don't have Ororon or Citlali. Not like you can bring a bird, unless they spawn one in the arena (which would be CRAZY lol). Though I don't think "most people hate this boss," they're just saying "lol just have an insane pyro squad that can kill it at any phase" and that's sorta not the point of the guide. But these kinds of videos attract those comments anyway, if my last 4 years of making guides have anything to say about that.
I honestly didn't realize there was any special mechanic because I took Dehya in a Ganyu melt team (my daily driver team) and just used her burst on them.
Yeah, fair enough. The boss isn’t bad persay but just upset that the mechanic that they made for this boss is actually unit-gated outside of grabbing BIRB. People who actually want to learn how to beat this boss and actually need the mechanics to fight it will probably not think of bringing a bird two miles out if they don’t have Ororon/Meemaw
@@toufusoup I guess, but if you are fighting this boss it's probably because you want to build Citlali (and problem solved) or you need to do it in abyss. However, like papilla (and copelia/copelius, golden wolf lord etc), there are other ways to quickly clear in abyss without relying on region specific mechanics. like my Yanfei overload team with Beidou, Fishl and Cheveruse (Bennet would likely be better but my account is an "everyone but Bennet", account) made quick work as those shields are very venerable to pyro and electro. I don't think it's as gated as you're making it out to be, even for low invested players.
@@youdontneedtoknow7548 like, I hate her play style (Motorcycle gaming got real old, real fast with HOR in HI3) so no, I don't need her. People said the same about Raiden, I stupidly listened, and I haven't used her in over 2 years. Dehya and Emile do just fine with Ganyu.
Just dodge the mimic attacks and attack the last one. Not hard, Ororon or Citlali are not needed at all they just make it even more trivial than it already is.
On my alt where I got citlali I just killed all the mimics with Lyney or Hu Tao (Hu Tao's team died at first since I'm terrible at playing her, so, I decided to swap to a Lyney vape team with Kokomi). Second try was easily bruteforceable
Glad to help out. A thing I failed to mention (I have the footage for this, I dunno why this didn't make the final cut, I guess that's early morning things for ya) is that the mimics will swipe at you 3 times before doing a small pause. It could probably help out in terms of timing your attacks. Check SunWei's video in the pinned comment if you need a demonstration
@@heart88888 and therein lies the problem that about 80 comments completely missed, and what I point out in the video. It’s not 100% accessible to 100% of players.
Ngl when I was farming this boss for Citlali a few days ago, I basically just kept getting lucky and kept hitting the real one with Hu Tao so I didn't even notice lol. But yeah, a large amount of things in Natlan just feel very character reliant and it really sucks. People thought it would be bad in Fontaine when they introduced Arkhe mechanics but even that wasn't very restrictive. Stuff like this and the Secret Source Automaton just feel really bad if you don't use Natlan characters.
Wait... She actually can be freeze. That kind a weird for cyro boss to be freeze by this stuff. All I did was rushing taken all cyro clone down bying using Hu Tao pyro charge attack she will be down stun any way or other case I end up kill it before she do that cyro clone things.
Oh dang, I don't have both Ororon and Citlali, was saving for Mavuika so I skipped Ororon and now I'm too broke for Citlali. I know people are saying to just kill it fast enough (which I probably can in overworld) but I'm not sure if I'm good enough to fight it in the abyss. Thanks for showing this
Thank you for being a living and breathing example of a player who actually can understand the point I was making in this video. I'd buy you a Welkin if I could.
@@toufusoup i believe i got her on her rerun in fontaine for hyperbloom n i didnt know she couldnt cook + there's no em food...always kept hoping hoyo would teach her how to cook
And that's the problem, is that they probably will lol, and I hope folks will find out how to fight these guys properly. Maybe a Kazuha/Bennett sort of thing, who knows If you don't wanna get potentially stunlocked and or melted, cuz if you're in Bennett's field, you can get one-shot due to melt, then I suppose take full advantage of the 3-stage attack and hope you have enough time from the previous stage
I just used my C0 white tassel Arlecchino w/ Bennet and C0 Fav Yelan and my still-leveling Citlali to one-round her before she could go into her split image mode, lol. Ignored the mechanic entirely.
Congrats lol I can imagine it going a little differently in Abyss, where these bosses usually enter their DPS phase immediately Though since you have Citlali, you can take advantage of the mechanic and save yourself those precious seconds
@@toufusoup Freezing the boss with a Master of the Nightwind seems like it'll be slower then just melting them with a Pyro Unit and letting them come to you one by one. We'll have to see how much stronger the Abyss version is, tho
I went with my Ororon, got rekt and went like: "fu ck it, ain't gonna do this special mechanics thing, I'ma tank her". Went with my c6 Noelle/Navia/C2 Furina team and just face-tanked her hits.
I found that a Dehya/Xianyun plunge team works very well against this boss. I add Benny and Furina, but basically you just need a pyro-centric team and stay away from other elements.
Creative, I'm glad that it worked out for you. I can imagine other people going Kazuha/Bennett and hoping that those mirror enemies will all bunch up properly
I started playing since 2.1, I wanted FRUCTOSE so I can have crowd contol since Anemo MC pushes them away whe you use burst. I've only gotten her last run with Ororon. 30 pulls, Ororon, Mika and Fructose.
No need to bother with the bird. I have both Citlali and Ororon and didn't even realize it could be frozen with their skill. You just need pyro, that's it.
That’s not a viable strat for a good chunk of players, nor will it always be applicable. It’s like saying “just 36 star abyss in under a minute lol it’s not that hard”
Are people not allowed to fight a boss just cuz they don’t have a unit to build? What if people want to just fight it, perhaps it’ll show up in Abyss next rotation and they want to get a taste of what’s to come? Or achievement hunt, or maybe it shows up in a quest, perhaps another character in the future will use them? You literally can’t get one of the achievements if you don’t freeze the things in place unless you have the bird or the 2 units in question.
@@toufusoup I discovered better and probably safer way (As safe as long as having Citali on the team), use her special jump to hover in the and use Charge attack
It’s probably gonna be another element/unit check. People are probably gonna bait the enemy with a Bennett/Kazuha combo or all their Mavuikas but it’s still scum regardless
bruh I wish I knew this earlier before lvling up citlali I was using bennet skill for all of the clones anyway I hope they don’t add this boss to spiral abyss
Some folks in the comments seem to be saying it's gonna be the case, and I almost can guarantee the boss will be starting off in the Ice Clone phase. I might honestly make a guide if it comes to that, and I don't usually make Spiral Abyss guides. But the people saying "just defeat the boss before it switches phases" are gonna be in a for a rude awakening I feel lol.
Yea those guys swipe pretty hard, glad you found out the mechanic yourself. The game itself sorta just alludes to you being able to do this and not actually showing it in action.
wish id known about this before i leveled my citlali, i went in with my trusty daily team, neuvi(C2 R1), arlechinno (C0 R1), Diluc (C4, skyward (R1) and zhongli (C0,R1). but the fight was fun, so is the suspending mechanic actually needed, not really
I just took Arle, Jean, Chiori, Kacchina and went brr. Thing died fast enough. But I still very much appreciate the spotlight for that magnificient bird :)
Yeah, I know folks with geared up parties will be able to fight this thing well enough, I’m just upset that we need to abuse the local fauna to fight this thing F2P.
@toufusoup I mean, I doubt it'd be THAT much harder witjh an adequately built f2p Pyro team. Like "Yanfei-Xingqiu-Bennet-Barbara", or similar just decently built teams around Yanfei or other Pyro or maybe even Electro 4*s should clear just fine too. I get your general point, but even when trying to take a "new f2p player"'s perspective (I'm not exactly a whale myself), the boon gotten by the Nightwind mechanic doesn't seem "strong enough" to be any reason for upset. To me, at least. Just a minor convenience boost if one can get it. The main part of the fight is still just overcoming ice shields
@@awakenedcrowl I have a second low invested f2p account that in like in 2 years I've pulled 13? limited 5 stars (so 6.5 on average per year) and most of my characters are lv 80 max as well) and I easily did this with an overload team of Yanfei, Fischl, Beidou and Cheveruse (Bennet would work as well). So I feel like this is being made out to be a bigger problem than it actually is.
@@awakenedcrowl Sorry, that came out wrong, I meant like "adequately built parties should be fine" For me I feel like the boon you get from freezing the people in place will give players a decent advantage, but perhaps the average player has gotten better over time From doing guides since version 1.X, there's a lot of people who just go "tank everything and complain if they die" so my bar of expectations is pretty low I did fail to mention one thing in this video though, which is that the cryo enemies have a set attack pattern, a 1-2-3 pause. But the triple-whammy might just be enough for some people to freak out, so I figured to cater to the lower common denominator and do an actual "F2P" guide involving guaranteed units and people can do as they see fit, as I usually do
@@kamicokrolock Don't worry after fighting the weekly boss this boss is a godsend In all seriousness, I'm not saying the boss is mega difficult or anything, but I'm just annoyed at the "forced" unit selection for the mechanics For me, "F2P" means using guaranteed units and people can replace units as they see fit, as if I can do it with the units the game gives you, you can do it too So it sets a bad precedent when a F2P party is actually unable to utilize a base function that's baked into a boss that the game specifically points out It may not be a problem persay for the majority of players but to the average underbuilt casual gamer who may die in 4 hits and crash out, they'll need all the help they can get lol And if they come across my guide, I want to show them how to do it without saying to them "have your units built and have this character you may or may not have, bam ez, f2p btw" Instead, since I do it with the base characters the game gives you for free, they can replace the units they see fit and try to replicate my behavior while following my instructions
Thanks for the information, after watching this and estimating the damage I can make then I just hit hard with Mauvika before the boss does the movement.
Would Noelle's shield be strong enough to ignore the damage from her clones? I didn't even know you could stun them & I just brute forced my way through their shields with pyro while having Zhongli's shield on.
Given you built her DEF% properly, yes. Admittedly, I forgot to include the footage of properly dodging, as a mimic will attack 3 times before giving a brief pause. Could help.
Finally we get bring our owl-like bird with us. It looks more like an American horned owl 🦉. Just so Natlanese like. After all, Natlan is known for being partners with beasts. A new experiment for teammates between human and beasts. It looks adventurous.
Oh I didn't know we can stun the clone thingy. I fought this boss out of curiousity and couldn't tell what is going on because I just unga bunga with Diluc
Yeah, I tried to do the same thing when learning how to fight this thing, but the in-game tip popped up with the icon (and I wanted my 1 primo) and I read the tip in which said I should probably do something with a Masters of the Night Wind character *or a birb*
I don't have any Natlan characters other than the little rabbit girl. Also didn't know you could stun lock them like that. Do you get achievement for doing that?
How to defeat this boss : Mona skill + kazuha/xilonen + Xiangling burst or mavruika skill + Mona burst + mualani skill then 1sec after use her burst = Magic, no boss left 😂…if you don’t crit , you are allowed to use mualani skill to finish her. My mualani is c0 f2p…I’ve never saw this boss attack pattern 😂😂😂 . 80th like is on me
I think people are confusing "F2P" with "Guaranteed" a lot of the time, there's a difference between a "F2P account" and "F2P/guaranteed unit" I don't think half the people playing the game have your lineup ngl but I'm glad you're making quick work of this boss with your lineup I suppose
I’m so mad abt this. I looked this up to see if there was an easier way to fight her for abyss, but Ororon or Citlali is a REQUIREMENT?? That’s ridiculous. I can’t 36* abyss because of this when usually I can
Yeah, people be here in the comments saying JUST KILL IT BEFORE THE ICE PHASE minimum half are probably in shambles. You can still do it with other teams but you gotta be really making sure you can blast through the void shield after. I had a friend clear with Alhaitham/Fischl/Kuki/Nahida second half
This guy is very beatable without the new mechanics. I used tighnari aggrevate and kinich burning, they're not premium teams, and they can deal with it fine
I dunno how much faster it'll be (or at all) but if you were already freezing them in place properly with Ororon/Citlali or maybe got a rhythm down with your pyro units, it might take a few runs lol
@toufusoup in my case, my main kill team is nahida, beidou, kokomiya and navia.. sometimes I alternate xinyan with beidou . I'm quite fond of the under dogs
I was surprised how easy this fight is. I bring citlali, mavuika, chasca, and clorinde. It dies quick. Citlali skill, then mavuika skill and then chasca skill and its done.
Y’know, going off topic, all things considered, Genshin is actually pretty good about power creep. I can still very effectively use my Diluc, Cyno, Raiden, Yae, Tartaglia, Tighnari, Eula, etc to this day. Some will just take extra effort or require more up to date supports, but I’m still here bringing Amber to Abyss 12 every single rotation so 🤷♀️
I honestly don't think it's that big of an issue. World boss have element requirement is fairly normal. You don't even need the bird, you could just use any pyro characters to break them. AoE like Mavuika clearly will makes this easier. Having extra way to make it even easier like using the bird or Citlali is a nice touch as long as it's optional. I'm very confuse about this complain?
This was never about an elemental requirement, I'm unsure where you got that from. It seems like a lot of people are confused and or missing the point, but I'm here to explain. time and time again. This was a matter of the game recommending you a mechanic to use to take advantage of to make this boss trivial, but said mechanic is currently limited to the local wildlife or characters that are not guaranteed to be in everyone's roster due to them being limited. If Ororon was free this boss guide would be 5 minutes shorter. If they plan to make Ororon a guaranteed unit like Lynette, Collei, etc. then my point is null, but at the moment, it doesn't seem to be the case. No player should be missing out on being able to utilize a mechanic *the game itself recommends you use* just because they don't have Ororon or Citlali. I understand many people this patch may have pulled Mavuika or whatnot and say "just kill it with fire lol" but no matter how you go about it, it's poor design to limit a literal recommend strategy behind paywalled characters. It doesn't matter how easy the boss is. It needs to be accessible to every player, and it currently is not.
@@toufusoup You argument would only be correct if that's no other option to kill this boss. This is clearly not the case here at all. That's more then one way to remove all the Cyro shield from the game. The only requirement is in fact Pyro. The bird, Oronon or Citlaia are 100% "optional".
I never made this about the argument about the cryo shield though? Again, I'm unsure where you're getting your argument from. You're missing my point again. The complaint I had was never about using the mechanic to kill the boss, that it'll be super difficult without the mechanic, or saying that the boss is impossible to defeat without the mechanic. I never said in the video nor did I say in a comment that this mechanic is required to defeat the boss. If anything, in the video, I make fun of the boss and laugh at it for being a pushover. Rather, I'm saying that the mechanic that the player can utilize SHOULDN'T be optional, but rather, it should be available for every player, in every scenario, without any special loopholes. The game recommends you use this Masters of the Night Wind mechanic to make the boss significantly easier, but said mechanic is literally paywalled, because Ororon and Citlali are not guaranteed characters in everyone's roster. If you brute force it with Pyro, sure, you can do that, but that doesn't change the fact that the boss mechanic is still exclusive to Ororon and Citlali, who, again, are limited characters. Nobody is arguing that Pyro is the recommended element here for the boss fight. If anything you have a ton of comments here bragging about their Mavuika, Arlecchino, Hu Tao, etc, I don't think anyone missed that memo. But the problem I have with the boss is that this really helpful move that you can do to freeze your enemies in place, is not available for every player. Does this make sense to you? Again, I'm not saying the boss is impossible without the mechanic nor is the boss difficult, I'm only saying that this "optional" mechanic should be available for every player, in every scenario (like Abyss, for example), and it is not. And that's the core problem. There's a few people that commented that have expressed this worry already. Quoting one person, "Oh dang, I don't have both Ororon and Citlali, was saving for Mavuika so I skipped Ororon and now I'm too broke for Citlali. I know people are saying to just kill it fast enough (which I probably can in overworld) but I'm not sure if I'm good enough to fight it in the abyss. Thanks for showing this"
You can’t realistically melt every single one of them with Xiangling super quickly and in one burst. Also, Hoyo choosing to paywall a mechanic that they recommend you use to fight this boss is still very poor gameplay design. Not everyone has the wombo combo bennett mavuika chasca zhongli brute force team that everyone in the comments appears to have
I can imagine people are just gonna do the usual "bennett everything 'til it does" method, it seems to be a rather popular way of going about things lol
That’s not the point. It seems like almost everyone has misconstrued what I’m saying. The problem is that *no free unit* that is able to take advantage of the very mechanic the *game itself recommends you use.* That’s what I have a problem with. It’s poor design, and it’s been prevalent with Natlan in general, but at least you had Kachina. It’ll be great if you have meemaw or her grandson but the truth of the matter is people who fight this thing aren’t only just gonna come across this thing in the overworld and are also going to wonder what’s going on if they choose to read the tip the game gives you, which I pointed out in the video. People in the comments seem to really want to tell me about their lineups and characters that not everyone has or has built about how easy it is and sure the boss itself is pretty simple but it doesn’t make the enemy itself poorly designed. If you have to resort to brute forcing it by completely foregoing the mechanics in my opinion it’s bad boss design.
Yeah. You basically need to dodge 3 attacks in which a small window opens up for you to do a few attacks and rinse and repeat. Alternatively you can just shield up and swing with Diluc/Yanfei/Mavu or something but obviously that’s not my first piece of advice lol
Don't put words in peoples' mouths lol. I never said it was difficult without Citlali nor was the boss difficult in general. I was just calling out Hoyo's bad practice in which they literally recommend you make use of a mechanic in game to help you fight a boss when you do not have a F2P/guaranteed unit to do so. Sure, the boss may be pretty simple and limited in scope, you and 20 other people can tell me "oh I just killed the boss brute force lol" but the point of the matter is, literally locking a core mechanic of this boss fight behind limited characters is scum, no matter how easy the enemy may be. That's why I pointed out the bird method, as the in-game tip literally tells you you can do it with the local fauna, but that's not realistic for if the boss shows up anywhere else, whether it be in Abyss or perhaps a story quest/battle event down the line.
The "fuss" is the game recommending you a mechanic to use to take advantage of to make this boss trivial, but said mechanic is currently limited to the local wildlife or characters that are not guaranteed to be in everyone's roster due to them being limited. If Ororon was free this boss guide would be 5 minutes shorter. If they plan to make Ororon a guaranteed unit like Lynette, Collei, etc. then my point is null, but at the moment, it doesn't seem to be the case. Also, from what I'm reading, it's gonna appear in Abyss, where being able to defeat things faster matters. Folks without Ororon or Citlali and don't have a Mavuika/pyro team to just two-shot everything are probably going to struggle. No player should be missing out on being able to utilize a mechanic the game itself recommends you use just because they don't have Ororon or Citlali. I understand many people this patch may have pulled Mavuika or whatnot and say "just kill it with fire lol" and sure you can brute force this boss but not every player can do that. No matter how you go about it, it's poor design to limit a literal recommend strategy behind paywalled characters. It doesn't matter how easy the boss is. It needs to be accessible to every player, and it currently is not.
@@PinoyReactMedia Are people not allowed to fight a boss just cuz they don’t have a unit to build? What if people want to just fight it, perhaps it’ll show up in Abyss next rotation and they want to get a taste of what’s to come, or learn of a mechanic/strat? Or achievement hunt? Maybe it shows up in a quest, perhaps another character in the future will use them? You also literally can’t get one of the achievements if you don’t freeze the things in place unless you have the bird or the 2 units in question. If I "yap too much" then you shouldn't ask dumb questions if you can't comprehend the "hullabaloo" you get. I'm trying to look out for every player here and call out scummy boss design, letting people know that a mechanic in this boss fight is literally paywalled unless you do some scuffed method. It's quite literally my responsibility to do so as a guidemaker for Hoyo. Sorry if that's too hard for your to understand.
Achievements, abyss, future units requiring this boss, some people just want to learn how to fight a boss, are people not allowed to fight an enemy because a unit they have won’t use their mats? I never get comments like these. It doesn’t even defeat the original point where I never said the boss was hard I just said the way they paywall the mechanic they recommend you use to fight this enemy is a poor gameplay decision
At least you’re honest lol If it can be brute forced it’ll be brute forced seems like, but I can imagine half of the comment writers in here are in for a rude awakening once the next Abyss rotation rolls around
Wait, she has clones? I just one-shot her with Mualani XD Jk, I knew that (though I really do one-shot her with Mualani), but being able to freeze them was new to me.
Yeah I’m sure owning one of the best Pyro units in the game and one of the best shielders in the game really makes it easy and that this is an accessible option for every player
*SunWei's version:* ua-cam.com/video/B7D5HnKDyIw/v-deo.html || *Weekly Boss Guide (Eroded Primal Fire Lord):* ua-cam.com/video/wQNd_kIn8PI/v-deo.html
*DISCLAIMER:* Make no mistake, I understand the boss is simple/limited, but the fact that Ororon *is not given to us for free* and we have to drag wildlife into the battle as a pseudo-5th party member to *take advantage of a recommended in-game mechanic* is poor design. Also, *this is not a viable tactic in future potential Abyss/events.* If Ororon was free, I'd be FAR less upset about it, but for now, *literally locking a core mechanic of this boss fight behind limited characters is no bueno, no matter how easy the enemy may be.*
*Timestamps for Mobile:*
00:00 - Happy New Year/Pre-Fight Ramble.
00:45 - I'm Disappointed, miHoYo. Also, BIRB
01:25 - How to Get to the Boss Fight
02:32 - Boss Guide Character Selection Reasonings
03:08 - Character Selection and Build
03:54 - Remember You Can Eat Food!
04:07 - Boss Fight Begins
04:44 - Ice Clone Boss Attack/DPS Phase
06:09 - Ororon Demonstration (Masters of the Night Wind)
07:09 - Ororon Demonstration #2
08:06 - End of Boss Fight + Parting Words
I get that most people hate this boss, kinda like the constrct boss where we need children of echo unit or saurian to climb that pillar. I mean, they're in Natlan, of course they gonna stick with natlan mechanics obviously yknow for the gimmick. But for this boss i kinda agreed. 1:18 this is the problem. Like hoyo gotta put Iktomisaur near the boss arena tho, if they needs us to use the master of the nightwind power to fight easier against her. Especially those that didn't have ororon or citlali. So hoyo can introduce new boss mechanics fight, BUT they need to put the stuff we need closer the boss area. That's it.
Thanks for having cognitive function. And I wonder how the average player without anything too crazy is gonna properly fight this thing in Abyss if they don't have Ororon or Citlali. Not like you can bring a bird, unless they spawn one in the arena (which would be CRAZY lol).
Though I don't think "most people hate this boss," they're just saying "lol just have an insane pyro squad that can kill it at any phase" and that's sorta not the point of the guide. But these kinds of videos attract those comments anyway, if my last 4 years of making guides have anything to say about that.
I honestly didn't realize there was any special mechanic because I took Dehya in a Ganyu melt team (my daily driver team) and just used her burst on them.
Yeah, fair enough. The boss isn’t bad persay but just upset that the mechanic that they made for this boss is actually unit-gated outside of grabbing BIRB. People who actually want to learn how to beat this boss and actually need the mechanics to fight it will probably not think of bringing a bird two miles out if they don’t have Ororon/Meemaw
@@toufusoup I guess, but if you are fighting this boss it's probably because you want to build Citlali (and problem solved) or you need to do it in abyss. However, like papilla (and copelia/copelius, golden wolf lord etc), there are other ways to quickly clear in abyss without relying on region specific mechanics. like my Yanfei overload team with Beidou, Fishl and Cheveruse (Bennet would likely be better but my account is an "everyone but Bennet", account) made quick work as those shields are very venerable to pyro and electro. I don't think it's as gated as you're making it out to be, even for low invested players.
You really need the pryo archon she is so much better for that team in so many ways
@@youdontneedtoknow7548 like, I hate her play style (Motorcycle gaming got real old, real fast with HOR in HI3) so no, I don't need her. People said the same about Raiden, I stupidly listened, and I haven't used her in over 2 years. Dehya and Emile do just fine with Ganyu.
Just dodge the mimic attacks and attack the last one. Not hard, Ororon or Citlali are not needed at all they just make it even more trivial than it already is.
On my alt where I got citlali I just killed all the mimics with Lyney or Hu Tao (Hu Tao's team died at first since I'm terrible at playing her, so, I decided to swap to a Lyney vape team with Kokomi). Second try was easily bruteforceable
Nicely done.
I've been doing it the hard way with a Fontaine heavy hitter team. This looks less painful.
Glad to help out. A thing I failed to mention (I have the footage for this, I dunno why this didn't make the final cut, I guess that's early morning things for ya) is that the mimics will swipe at you 3 times before doing a small pause. It could probably help out in terms of timing your attacks. Check SunWei's video in the pinned comment if you need a demonstration
ARE YOU KIDDING ME, i fought this Boss so many times for my Level 90 Citlali and just now I find that out.
Well, at least you know what to do if they ever slap this garbage in Abyss lol
@@toufusoup the problem with abyss is that you'll definitely need either Citlali or Ororon for this.
@@heart88888 and therein lies the problem that about 80 comments completely missed, and what I point out in the video. It’s not 100% accessible to 100% of players.
Ngl when I was farming this boss for Citlali a few days ago, I basically just kept getting lucky and kept hitting the real one with Hu Tao so I didn't even notice lol.
But yeah, a large amount of things in Natlan just feel very character reliant and it really sucks. People thought it would be bad in Fontaine when they introduced Arkhe mechanics but even that wasn't very restrictive. Stuff like this and the Secret Source Automaton just feel really bad if you don't use Natlan characters.
Wait... She actually can be freeze. That kind a weird for cyro boss to be freeze by this stuff.
All I did was rushing taken all cyro clone down bying using Hu Tao pyro charge attack she will be down stun any way or other case I end up kill it before she do that cyro clone things.
So glad i found this video! That cloning sequence of the boss was really infuriating
I didn't knew you could freeze them i just brute forced it with Bennett😅
Oh dang, I don't have both Ororon and Citlali, was saving for Mavuika so I skipped Ororon and now I'm too broke for Citlali. I know people are saying to just kill it fast enough (which I probably can in overworld) but I'm not sure if I'm good enough to fight it in the abyss. Thanks for showing this
Thank you for being a living and breathing example of a player who actually can understand the point I was making in this video. I'd buy you a Welkin if I could.
i keep forgetting food exist since raiden cant cook
Lol why do you have her defaulted as your stove person
@@toufusoup i believe i got her on her rerun in fontaine for hyperbloom n i didnt know she couldnt cook + there's no em food...always kept hoping hoyo would teach her how to cook
Lol yea that’s her gimmick/meme, is that this Raiden Mei cannot cook. The Raiden Mei in Honkai Impact 3rd is a fantastic chef
@@toufusoup :O dammit hoyo :'( thats so not fair
It's spawned some hellish fanart though lmao
to be fair you wont fight this unless you pulled for citlali but if they add this monstrosity in abyss 😭
And that's the problem, is that they probably will lol, and I hope folks will find out how to fight these guys properly. Maybe a Kazuha/Bennett sort of thing, who knows
If you don't wanna get potentially stunlocked and or melted, cuz if you're in Bennett's field, you can get one-shot due to melt, then I suppose take full advantage of the 3-stage attack and hope you have enough time from the previous stage
hate to be the bearer of bad news but this boss will be in next abyss :V
Oh BOY!!!!
Xiangling Will Always be there for us
What, I never have any issue fighting this boss. I use duo pyro, xilo and kazuha.
I just used my C0 white tassel Arlecchino w/ Bennet and C0 Fav Yelan and my still-leveling Citlali to one-round her before she could go into her split image mode, lol. Ignored the mechanic entirely.
Congrats lol
I can imagine it going a little differently in Abyss, where these bosses usually enter their DPS phase immediately
Though since you have Citlali, you can take advantage of the mechanic and save yourself those precious seconds
@@toufusoup Freezing the boss with a Master of the Nightwind seems like it'll be slower then just melting them with a Pyro Unit and letting them come to you one by one. We'll have to see how much stronger the Abyss version is, tho
Thank you for sharing this!
I went with my Ororon, got rekt and went like: "fu ck it, ain't gonna do this special mechanics thing, I'ma tank her". Went with my c6 Noelle/Navia/C2 Furina team and just face-tanked her hits.
Why not use Noelle to shield your Ororon, and then whip out Navia and a Pyro user to make use of the lengthy DPS phase?
WE HATE MHY FOR ORORON CITLALI REQ BRING BACK GOOD BOSS DESIGN
*MHY ADVOCATING FOR THE DOMESTICATION OF THE LOCAL FAUNA CONFIRMED*
bro just kill it in 1 rotation
Coop is a thing, if you're really having that much trouble then plenty of people are happy to help you
It is not a requirement tho
Not a requirement, she'll phase out of that form after a while. Besides, any elements that react to cryo will get rid of her illusions.
Lol I just got to know this boss had this kind of mechanics, all this time I've been oneshotting it to its death
Bro i didnt even realized. It dies in one Mavuika rotation lmao.
Didn't even know this
I just Unga bunga melt all the clones with mavuika spin
what the heck! thank you! now its an easy peasy task to farm Citlali boss
Thanks for the detailed guide!
I found that a Dehya/Xianyun plunge team works very well against this boss. I add Benny and Furina, but basically you just need a pyro-centric team and stay away from other elements.
Creative, I'm glad that it worked out for you. I can imagine other people going Kazuha/Bennett and hoping that those mirror enemies will all bunch up properly
I started playing since 2.1, I wanted FRUCTOSE so I can have crowd contol since Anemo MC pushes them away whe you use burst. I've only gotten her last run with Ororon. 30 pulls, Ororon, Mika and Fructose.
I LOVE HIGH-FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP
Woww I didn't know we can pause the boss
No need to bother with the bird. I have both Citlali and Ororon and didn't even realize it could be frozen with their skill. You just need pyro, that's it.
Something u could do is to just beat it before it goes into that form
That’s not a viable strat for a good chunk of players, nor will it always be applicable. It’s like saying “just 36 star abyss in under a minute lol it’s not that hard”
@ poor guys
Alright Tectone calm down
@@toufusoup y u gotta do me like that🥺🥺
Why would you even fight this boss if you don't have Citlali? Who would you use the mats for?
Are people not allowed to fight a boss just cuz they don’t have a unit to build? What if people want to just fight it, perhaps it’ll show up in Abyss next rotation and they want to get a taste of what’s to come? Or achievement hunt, or maybe it shows up in a quest, perhaps another character in the future will use them? You literally can’t get one of the achievements if you don’t freeze the things in place unless you have the bird or the 2 units in question.
I feel like stupid because I had Citali on my team but resort to running Yanfei tactic
Combine ‘em together, recipe for success
@@toufusoup
I discovered better and probably safer way (As safe as long as having Citali on the team), use her special jump to hover in the and use Charge attack
They better let us bring a birb into the abyss if she's in it
It’s probably gonna be another element/unit check. People are probably gonna bait the enemy with a Bennett/Kazuha combo or all their Mavuikas but it’s still scum regardless
bruh I wish I knew this earlier before lvling up citlali I was using bennet skill for all of the clones anyway I hope they don’t add this boss to spiral abyss
Some folks in the comments seem to be saying it's gonna be the case, and I almost can guarantee the boss will be starting off in the Ice Clone phase. I might honestly make a guide if it comes to that, and I don't usually make Spiral Abyss guides. But the people saying "just defeat the boss before it switches phases" are gonna be in a for a rude awakening I feel lol.
Me who didn't know abt this mechanic and just face tanked her with my zhongli and lyney despite having citlali 👁️👄👁️
Well now you know
@@toufusoup I found out only after I've already 90'd citlali 😔
The only boss where Saurians are actually useful😂
LOL don't do the little cuties like that bruh
@toufusoup They're all cute. So I obviously feel bad having to farm their materials.
This boss has a mechanic? I never knew, it dies way to fast :D
The only reason I found out was because I was trying to break the shield with Ororon. Otherwise I would've tried to tank the hits.
Yea those guys swipe pretty hard, glad you found out the mechanic yourself. The game itself sorta just alludes to you being able to do this and not actually showing it in action.
wish id known about this before i leveled my citlali, i went in with my trusty daily team, neuvi(C2 R1), arlechinno (C0 R1), Diluc (C4, skyward (R1) and zhongli (C0,R1). but the fight was fun, so is the suspending mechanic actually needed, not really
Now you know. Also, well, you're in the camp where you can brute force it in the overworld at least. Others might not be so lucky though.
I just took Arle, Jean, Chiori, Kacchina and went brr. Thing died fast enough. But I still very much appreciate the spotlight for that magnificient bird :)
Yeah, I know folks with geared up parties will be able to fight this thing well enough, I’m just upset that we need to abuse the local fauna to fight this thing F2P.
@toufusoup I mean, I doubt it'd be THAT much harder witjh an adequately built f2p Pyro team. Like "Yanfei-Xingqiu-Bennet-Barbara", or similar just decently built teams around Yanfei or other Pyro or maybe even Electro 4*s should clear just fine too.
I get your general point, but even when trying to take a "new f2p player"'s perspective (I'm not exactly a whale myself), the boon gotten by the Nightwind mechanic doesn't seem "strong enough" to be any reason for upset. To me, at least. Just a minor convenience boost if one can get it.
The main part of the fight is still just overcoming ice shields
@@awakenedcrowl I have a second low invested f2p account that in like in 2 years I've pulled 13? limited 5 stars (so 6.5 on average per year) and most of my characters are lv 80 max as well) and I easily did this with an overload team of Yanfei, Fischl, Beidou and Cheveruse (Bennet would work as well). So I feel like this is being made out to be a bigger problem than it actually is.
@@awakenedcrowl Sorry, that came out wrong, I meant like "adequately built parties should be fine"
For me I feel like the boon you get from freezing the people in place will give players a decent advantage, but perhaps the average player has gotten better over time
From doing guides since version 1.X, there's a lot of people who just go "tank everything and complain if they die" so my bar of expectations is pretty low
I did fail to mention one thing in this video though, which is that the cryo enemies have a set attack pattern, a 1-2-3 pause.
But the triple-whammy might just be enough for some people to freak out, so I figured to cater to the lower common denominator and do an actual "F2P" guide involving guaranteed units and people can do as they see fit, as I usually do
@@kamicokrolock Don't worry after fighting the weekly boss this boss is a godsend
In all seriousness, I'm not saying the boss is mega difficult or anything, but I'm just annoyed at the "forced" unit selection for the mechanics
For me, "F2P" means using guaranteed units and people can replace units as they see fit, as if I can do it with the units the game gives you, you can do it too
So it sets a bad precedent when a F2P party is actually unable to utilize a base function that's baked into a boss that the game specifically points out
It may not be a problem persay for the majority of players but to the average underbuilt casual gamer who may die in 4 hits and crash out, they'll need all the help they can get lol
And if they come across my guide, I want to show them how to do it without saying to them "have your units built and have this character you may or may not have, bam ez, f2p btw"
Instead, since I do it with the base characters the game gives you for free, they can replace the units they see fit and try to replicate my behavior while following my instructions
Might be worth mentioning that you can also bring other birb and beat this boss with just birbs
Damn I should’ve made a guide on this. Maybe I’ll revisit all Natlan bosses with Pyro Traveler alongside BIRB tactics
Thanks for the information, after watching this and estimating the damage I can make then I just hit hard with Mauvika before the boss does the movement.
Yeah that seems to be the strat. I just hope that strat pays off when it appears in Abyss lol cuz you can get stunlocked pretty easy sometimes.
thank u so much ♥
Would Noelle's shield be strong enough to ignore the damage from her clones? I didn't even know you could stun them & I just brute forced my way through their shields with pyro while having Zhongli's shield on.
Given you built her DEF% properly, yes. Admittedly, I forgot to include the footage of properly dodging, as a mimic will attack 3 times before giving a brief pause. Could help.
Am i tripping or what?
I just ungga bungga with Arle
No, you’re just in the camp in which you’ve managed to pass the threshold to just brute force your way through this boss in the overworld
Finally we get bring our owl-like bird with us. It looks more like an American horned owl 🦉. Just so Natlanese like. After all, Natlan is known for being partners with beasts.
A new experiment for teammates between human and beasts. It looks adventurous.
Lol, I guess committing skinwalkery on a birb to fight a busty ice lady is canon, thank you Hoyo
Oh I didn't know we can stun the clone thingy.
I fought this boss out of curiousity and couldn't tell what is going on because I just unga bunga with Diluc
Yeah, I tried to do the same thing when learning how to fight this thing, but the in-game tip popped up with the icon (and I wanted my 1 primo) and I read the tip in which said I should probably do something with a Masters of the Night Wind character *or a birb*
BRO WHO TF DISCOVERED THIS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Me. I discovered this. And what a garbage fossil lol.
why did i find that out after 90 citlali😂
I don't have any Natlan characters other than the little rabbit girl. Also didn't know you could stun lock them like that. Do you get achievement for doing that?
I believe you do, though don’t quote me on that. Better to check in the achievements tab
How to defeat this boss : Mona skill + kazuha/xilonen + Xiangling burst or mavruika skill + Mona burst + mualani skill then 1sec after use her burst =
Magic, no boss left 😂…if you don’t crit , you are allowed to use mualani skill to finish her.
My mualani is c0 f2p…I’ve never saw this boss attack pattern 😂😂😂 . 80th like is on me
I think people are confusing "F2P" with "Guaranteed" a lot of the time, there's a difference between a "F2P account" and "F2P/guaranteed unit"
I don't think half the people playing the game have your lineup ngl but I'm glad you're making quick work of this boss with your lineup I suppose
I’m so mad abt this. I looked this up to see if there was an easier way to fight her for abyss, but Ororon or Citlali is a REQUIREMENT?? That’s ridiculous. I can’t 36* abyss because of this when usually I can
Yeah, people be here in the comments saying JUST KILL IT BEFORE THE ICE PHASE minimum half are probably in shambles. You can still do it with other teams but you gotta be really making sure you can blast through the void shield after. I had a friend clear with Alhaitham/Fischl/Kuki/Nahida second half
@@toufusoup are ppl really saying kill it before ice phase? It goes into ice after like 10 seconds...
@rationalowl4867 mainly I was talking about the people in THIS video’s comment section lol. If you scroll you got a lot of DPS experts.
This guy is very beatable without the new mechanics. I used tighnari aggrevate and kinich burning, they're not premium teams, and they can deal with it fine
I’m sure everyone that doesn’t have a full Tighnari aggravate team or Kinich burning team will find this recommendation very helpful
Hmm i used chaska and one shotted the boss, after switching to a different team i did realize how much more difficult it was.
Chasca is truly the final boss of Natlan
I found the fight pretty enjoyable but now I'm gonna have to drag that owl birb thing down there and see how much faster I can beat her
I dunno how much faster it'll be (or at all) but if you were already freezing them in place properly with Ororon/Citlali or maybe got a rhythm down with your pyro units, it might take a few runs lol
@toufusoup in my case, my main kill team is nahida, beidou, kokomiya and navia.. sometimes I alternate xinyan with beidou . I'm quite fond of the under dogs
Amber Main since 1.0 my friend 🤝
Me having Citlali and fighting her with C6 Benet and Ganyu and already one acention left on Citlali
👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
Beating this easily with mono-pyro Arlecchino, Xilonen, Mavuika, Benny. 18 Not really an F2P friendly team, but still no Citlali or Ororon.
Definitely not a F2P friendly team lol hopefully you can replicate your success when they slap this thing in Abyss
I was surprised how easy this fight is. I bring citlali, mavuika, chasca, and clorinde. It dies quick. Citlali skill, then mavuika skill and then chasca skill and its done.
Well, if you have built and battle-ready 5-Star limited units that can nuke things from orbit I’m sure any boss you encounter is easy, right?
@toufusoup power creep is a real thing. I'm just glad I had extremely good luck on my pulls. 120 wishes got me Citlali, Mavuika and Mavuikas weapon.
Y’know, going off topic, all things considered, Genshin is actually pretty good about power creep. I can still very effectively use my Diluc, Cyno, Raiden, Yae, Tartaglia, Tighnari, Eula, etc to this day. Some will just take extra effort or require more up to date supports, but I’m still here bringing Amber to Abyss 12 every single rotation so 🤷♀️
I honestly don't think it's that big of an issue. World boss have element requirement is fairly normal. You don't even need the bird, you could just use any pyro characters to break them. AoE like Mavuika clearly will makes this easier. Having extra way to make it even easier like using the bird or Citlali is a nice touch as long as it's optional. I'm very confuse about this complain?
This was never about an elemental requirement, I'm unsure where you got that from. It seems like a lot of people are confused and or missing the point, but I'm here to explain. time and time again.
This was a matter of the game recommending you a mechanic to use to take advantage of to make this boss trivial, but said mechanic is currently limited to the local wildlife or characters that are not guaranteed to be in everyone's roster due to them being limited. If Ororon was free this boss guide would be 5 minutes shorter. If they plan to make Ororon a guaranteed unit like Lynette, Collei, etc. then my point is null, but at the moment, it doesn't seem to be the case.
No player should be missing out on being able to utilize a mechanic *the game itself recommends you use* just because they don't have Ororon or Citlali. I understand many people this patch may have pulled Mavuika or whatnot and say "just kill it with fire lol" but no matter how you go about it, it's poor design to limit a literal recommend strategy behind paywalled characters. It doesn't matter how easy the boss is. It needs to be accessible to every player, and it currently is not.
@@toufusoup You argument would only be correct if that's no other option to kill this boss. This is clearly not the case here at all. That's more then one way to remove all the Cyro shield from the game. The only requirement is in fact Pyro. The bird, Oronon or Citlaia are 100% "optional".
I never made this about the argument about the cryo shield though? Again, I'm unsure where you're getting your argument from. You're missing my point again. The complaint I had was never about using the mechanic to kill the boss, that it'll be super difficult without the mechanic, or saying that the boss is impossible to defeat without the mechanic. I never said in the video nor did I say in a comment that this mechanic is required to defeat the boss. If anything, in the video, I make fun of the boss and laugh at it for being a pushover.
Rather, I'm saying that the mechanic that the player can utilize SHOULDN'T be optional, but rather, it should be available for every player, in every scenario, without any special loopholes. The game recommends you use this Masters of the Night Wind mechanic to make the boss significantly easier, but said mechanic is literally paywalled, because Ororon and Citlali are not guaranteed characters in everyone's roster. If you brute force it with Pyro, sure, you can do that, but that doesn't change the fact that the boss mechanic is still exclusive to Ororon and Citlali, who, again, are limited characters.
Nobody is arguing that Pyro is the recommended element here for the boss fight. If anything you have a ton of comments here bragging about their Mavuika, Arlecchino, Hu Tao, etc, I don't think anyone missed that memo. But the problem I have with the boss is that this really helpful move that you can do to freeze your enemies in place, is not available for every player.
Does this make sense to you? Again, I'm not saying the boss is impossible without the mechanic nor is the boss difficult, I'm only saying that this "optional" mechanic should be available for every player, in every scenario (like Abyss, for example), and it is not. And that's the core problem. There's a few people that commented that have expressed this worry already. Quoting one person, "Oh dang, I don't have both Ororon and Citlali, was saving for Mavuika so I skipped Ororon and now I'm too broke for Citlali. I know people are saying to just kill it fast enough (which I probably can in overworld) but I'm not sure if I'm good enough to fight it in the abyss. Thanks for showing this"
I used Navia, Furina, Neuvilette and either Bennet / Baizhu / Xiangling and I managed to kill this boss (but it’s annoying and difficult)
Sounds like you need a little freeze mechanic in your life
That's a nice find! Though this boss can be defeat without the special gimmick and I think you accidentally caused some hate on hoyo because of this.
@@kyori75 Yeah. Since all the illusions will attack you. You can just melt them all with Xiangling.
You can’t realistically melt every single one of them with Xiangling super quickly and in one burst. Also, Hoyo choosing to paywall a mechanic that they recommend you use to fight this boss is still very poor gameplay design. Not everyone has the wombo combo bennett mavuika chasca zhongli brute force team that everyone in the comments appears to have
Well, this is gonna be a problem in Spiral Abyss. For whenever they'll be there later on.
I can imagine people are just gonna do the usual "bennett everything 'til it does" method, it seems to be a rather popular way of going about things lol
The only character who needs the material is granny though so why not bring her then?
That’s not the point. It seems like almost everyone has misconstrued what I’m saying. The problem is that *no free unit* that is able to take advantage of the very mechanic the *game itself recommends you use.* That’s what I have a problem with. It’s poor design, and it’s been prevalent with Natlan in general, but at least you had Kachina.
It’ll be great if you have meemaw or her grandson but the truth of the matter is people who fight this thing aren’t only just gonna come across this thing in the overworld and are also going to wonder what’s going on if they choose to read the tip the game gives you, which I pointed out in the video.
People in the comments seem to really want to tell me about their lineups and characters that not everyone has or has built about how easy it is and sure the boss itself is pretty simple but it doesn’t make the enemy itself poorly designed. If you have to resort to brute forcing it by completely foregoing the mechanics in my opinion it’s bad boss design.
@@toufusoup Yeah, I wrote this halfway through the video so I wouldn't forget to comment this and I only saw the abyss criticism later on.
What can kill those shadows if you can't freeze them? Just Pyro/Electro?
Yeah. You basically need to dodge 3 attacks in which a small window opens up for you to do a few attacks and rinse and repeat. Alternatively you can just shield up and swing with Diluc/Yanfei/Mavu or something but obviously that’s not my first piece of advice lol
Complaining that it's hard to fight this boss without Citlali but you have no reason to fight it if you don't have Citlali
Don't put words in peoples' mouths lol. I never said it was difficult without Citlali nor was the boss difficult in general. I was just calling out Hoyo's bad practice in which they literally recommend you make use of a mechanic in game to help you fight a boss when you do not have a F2P/guaranteed unit to do so.
Sure, the boss may be pretty simple and limited in scope, you and 20 other people can tell me "oh I just killed the boss brute force lol" but the point of the matter is, literally locking a core mechanic of this boss fight behind limited characters is scum, no matter how easy the enemy may be. That's why I pointed out the bird method, as the in-game tip literally tells you you can do it with the local fauna, but that's not realistic for if the boss shows up anywhere else, whether it be in Abyss or perhaps a story quest/battle event down the line.
The best way is kill it before it goes into clones phase. This how it worked out for me.
Now imagine this: Abyss next rotation starts this enemy off in the ice clone phase, and requires extra hits to properly melt everything.
dang with my chasca i never seen it spawn its copies
Cavewoman wife enjoyer spotted
Too bad a lot of people probably didn’t pull her due to meemaw and biker wife next patch
Well if you need to farm this boss then most probably you have a citlali. What's the fuss all about?
The "fuss" is the game recommending you a mechanic to use to take advantage of to make this boss trivial, but said mechanic is currently limited to the local wildlife or characters that are not guaranteed to be in everyone's roster due to them being limited. If Ororon was free this boss guide would be 5 minutes shorter. If they plan to make Ororon a guaranteed unit like Lynette, Collei, etc. then my point is null, but at the moment, it doesn't seem to be the case. Also, from what I'm reading, it's gonna appear in Abyss, where being able to defeat things faster matters. Folks without Ororon or Citlali and don't have a Mavuika/pyro team to just two-shot everything are probably going to struggle.
No player should be missing out on being able to utilize a mechanic the game itself recommends you use just because they don't have Ororon or Citlali. I understand many people this patch may have pulled Mavuika or whatnot and say "just kill it with fire lol" and sure you can brute force this boss but not every player can do that. No matter how you go about it, it's poor design to limit a literal recommend strategy behind paywalled characters. It doesn't matter how easy the boss is. It needs to be accessible to every player, and it currently is not.
@toufusoup Why would you kill this boss if you don't have citlali? I can understand all this hullabaloo if it was in the abyss. You yap too much.
@@PinoyReactMedia Are people not allowed to fight a boss just cuz they don’t have a unit to build? What if people want to just fight it, perhaps it’ll show up in Abyss next rotation and they want to get a taste of what’s to come, or learn of a mechanic/strat? Or achievement hunt? Maybe it shows up in a quest, perhaps another character in the future will use them? You also literally can’t get one of the achievements if you don’t freeze the things in place unless you have the bird or the 2 units in question.
If I "yap too much" then you shouldn't ask dumb questions if you can't comprehend the "hullabaloo" you get. I'm trying to look out for every player here and call out scummy boss design, letting people know that a mechanic in this boss fight is literally paywalled unless you do some scuffed method. It's quite literally my responsibility to do so as a guidemaker for Hoyo. Sorry if that's too hard for your to understand.
@@toufusoup Then fight the boss who is stopping you? So much nonsense and blabbering. Toxic
Its the citlali boss soo why would you not have her. I just slapped it with arllerchino didnt even know she was needed
@@mrJones-ii7sh exactly why would you fight the boss if you dont have her...?
Achievements, abyss, future units requiring this boss, some people just want to learn how to fight a boss, are people not allowed to fight an enemy because a unit they have won’t use their mats? I never get comments like these. It doesn’t even defeat the original point where I never said the boss was hard I just said the way they paywall the mechanic they recommend you use to fight this enemy is a poor gameplay decision
What you needed that skill !!!
I just brute forced without knowing🫠now she's level 90
As they say gacha gamers don't read 😭
At least you’re honest lol
If it can be brute forced it’ll be brute forced seems like, but I can imagine half of the comment writers in here are in for a rude awakening once the next Abyss rotation rolls around
Wait, she has clones? I just one-shot her with Mualani XD
Jk, I knew that (though I really do one-shot her with Mualani), but being able to freeze them was new to me.
Glad to help with providing some new info. If she appears in Abyss I guess you have an option
Not that hard. I collected all material for Iztli in 20 minutes using Zhongli, Raiden, Bennett and Xiangling.
Chasca makes this boss a joke
Almost, though if your party members aren’t the right elements, you’re just farting on them pretty hard
That being said we stan the cavewoman wife
me using chasca overload
teehee
based
not f2p opinion; arley;benis works wery well
constellation 6 benis
The boss is kinda.......
Can I get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh good boss design? And I’m not talking about the model, they’ve already got that down
Sorry to say that boss easy 😁😁 use arly easy lol and zhongli done hahshshz
Yeah I’m sure owning one of the best Pyro units in the game and one of the best shielders in the game really makes it easy and that this is an accessible option for every player
bird is life (i dont even need this boss)🧍♂
🦅