The AP3 is superb; it has a wide base, so it's good for heel or forefoot strikers, and the toe-off is amazing. Plus it's comfortable to run in at any pace.
AF V3 is the best shoe I have ever worn, it's also the most comfortable....which is CRAZY. The weight reduction, and new midsole setup makes it soooooo smooth. Running at marathon, half marathon and even 10k pace feels effortless. I liked the AF V1, but the drop made my calves suffer in the last 5km of the marathon, and I didn't feel fast enough at 3:30hr. The AF V2 was a great shoe, but it felt heavy and bulky at the end of the marathon. I keep running workouts in the V1, V2 and V3, and the V3 just gives consistently lower HR and RPE over similar/same workouts. I keep doubting the data....but I'm about ready to just accept the AF V3 is the perfect shoe for me.
@@DaveRuns13.1 I have nothing against other brands and own the Takumi Sen, Boston 12 and Adios 6. But something about the airpods just work for me. Not to mention the great heel lock I get on the AF line, which Adidas and Saucony still can't seem to get right (for me). I can only hope you've found the perfect shoe for you!
For recreational runners a shoe that lasts longer and a shoe that you can train with and get familiar with it with no fear of "ruining the shoe' is more valuable than a shoe that costs more and is far less durable.
exactly, and that was one of my main reasons why I went for the AP3, and the price of course. I wonder what they are going to do with the next version on this remarkable shoe..
I'd like to hear opinion of 50 y.o. +, that's who can tell me more about comfort and foot condition after say 5-10 miles.. 20-30 y.o can run barefoot and no problem, so they can tell very little about effect on the foot.. IMHO.. Dude runs sub 4 per km.. Cannot tell me anything as these has no body weight and no age to feel any difference.. IMHO.
You can’t go wrong with either. I have both. The AlphaFly 3 is -for me-a superior performance shoe in every way. But, the Adios Pro 3 is far more durable and way more accessible (in terms of price, availability, and general compatibility). Both are super cars, but one is meant for Formula 1 race courses while the other is great for countless hours on the Autobahn.
My Adios Pro 3 relegated my AF2 into a speed-day workout shoe. I have yet to see if the AF3 is good enough to replace my Adios Pro 3 as my main race-day shoes.
Adios Pro 3 is a great shoe, you can pick up 2 x pairs for the cost of a newer super shoe, and useful for tempo and long runs. I keep going back to mine, for lower distances I can match my pb race times and nothing in it with EP3 and RX2.
I love the AF3, the feel, the fit and the speed, my favourite super shoe yet and it has excellent grip in the wet in relation to other supershoes. Bought a pair of Adios Pro 3's (thankfully on a big discount) and I do not like them, really hard to get a heel lock and the upper on the toe box rubs my toes. I imagine I'll be selling them soon as they just don't feel good on foot for me, too firm and the fit is never right.
I haven't tried the af3 yet, but their verdict captures my feelings on the af1 vs ap3, which are both, by far, the two greatest shoes I've tried. Nothing is close for me. Purely in regards to performance, the af1 is the better shoe. However, when factoring in versatility (i use my ap3 as a daily trainer and sometimes easy day shoe), durability (my alphaflys have died around 300mi whereas i have an ap3 with over 500 miles thats still going strong), price and ultimately value, the ap3 is the better all around shoe.
In my opinion .. the AP3 is the best running shoes I’ve owned .. and tried it so versatile and affordable I just bought another pair at 120$ that’s a very nice price .. not like the other carbon plated shoes today 250 - 300 $ !!! 🥴
Adios pro 3 are the fastest shoes I’ve ever worn. There’s a significant decrease in my HR compared to all the other super shoes I own. BUT I get injured from them constantly.
I think these 2 chaps were pro NIKE - Alpha fly 3 before kick off .. the Adidas Adizero Adios pro 3 is by far the superior units .. these 2 are a couple of Squeezers IMO . Don’t be biased.. it shows ok .. now. , the Adidas needs lace upgrade simply .. open up the lace holes and use a soft oval slightly longer lace . To improve the ease of fit with your Adidas Adizero Adios 3 . The # 1 Super Shoe 2024
Not sure how you guys get sales that have these as low as £60. Definitely haven't seen anything close to that in Canada. I like my Boston 12, I don't like an 8mm drop and I'm not a fast runner so if I end up with a race shoe for my first marathon in a few months it will be the AP3.
I have both shoes and the AF 3 is just a better, more comfortable shoe. AF3 will be as durable as any other super shoe I have (almost all of them). Hoping to give sub 3 a shot in the AF3 in the fall at Chicago.
@@Anatoly_Tsvetkov Agree. I have Saucony Speed 3 and Novablast 2 which are much more comfortable. New Balance as well. Definitey will go for one of their supershoes for my next purchase. I have used AF1, VF2 and AP3. I have stuffed my wide flat mid foot into them. Fiddled with lacing for half an hour to make them comfortable. They are bearable for the benefit up to half marathon distance. But not for marathons.
Pro 3 is £150 at the moment on sportsshoes. Maybe I should get it mmmmmh. Unsure as I loved the original alphafly so much. Don't wanna be disappointed as I like that feel from it.
I have the pro and all the alphaflys I would never pick up the pro 3 for any kind of race But there again I like soft bouncy shoes The pro 3 is okay but it doesn’t feel like a supershoe (make you feel faster , propulsive ) in my opinion It just feels like a soild shoe and some people probably prefer that You will be disappointed if you want something like the alphafly Vapourfly 2 or 3 are great options that don’t cost £285
Nick I am on a mission to try and find my correct size in running shoes, do you mind sharing the length of your foot in cm, it would help me a lot, also if you could comment if that length is before or after a run.
As a heavier runner (85kg) don't think I'd risk the lower front stack caused by the 8mm drop on the alphafly 3. Even with zoom in the forefoot, the stack is the same as the Vaporfly next% and that was only good for me to 10k. Vaporfly 1 has an additional 3mm on the forefoot. Plus they look like kitten heels and gaf 😂👍
No one can feel the difference of 20g between shoes. I don't care what they think they feel. I run in shoes from 170g to over 300g and there's nothing noticeable that you could quantify to say otherwise. By the time you've added some dirt and sweat/water they go up in weight anyway. Tom would pick a plimsoll as the best shoe if it had a nike badge on it. 😂
Adios pro 3 are so overrated. Force you to run different to your natural biomechanics as most other super shoes. Not tried alpha 3’s yet but will for the mass colourway release. Saucony endorphin pro 3’s let you run more natural(not the fastest feeling but consistent) just got the endo pro 4’s.
I feel the adios pro are overrated too. It’s not a bad shoe in fact I’d say it’s a solid shoe but it doesn’t feel like a super shoe and I don’t feel very fast in it , I’d never pick it for a race Love the Nike super shoes and I liked the saucony pro 3 but toe box was too narrow so couldn’t use it and had to send it back
Makes you run on the outside of your foot...which is perfect for me, any shoe that forces you to run flat is a disaster for my stride and causes over pronation.
@tono1665 Please share your impression of the Endo Pro 4 compared to the 3’s. I ran a big PR in the Endo 3’s last Apr. but was offered a pair of AF3 to consider for this year (from my running store). I’m somewhat averse to risking since they’re the only Nike shoe I’ve liked at all and very different from the Endo Pro 3. V4 is getting very mixed comparisons and it seems to depend on what kind of foot strike or biomechanics once has, which is preferred. I’ve only put one 14 mi LR on the AF3’s and was impressed but not sure they’re better for me (they’re returnable at least).
The AP3 is superb; it has a wide base, so it's good for heel or forefoot strikers, and the toe-off is amazing. Plus it's comfortable to run in at any pace.
Adios Pro 3 are the best marathon and long run shoes I have have ever had
AF V3 is the best shoe I have ever worn, it's also the most comfortable....which is CRAZY. The weight reduction, and new midsole setup makes it soooooo smooth. Running at marathon, half marathon and even 10k pace feels effortless. I liked the AF V1, but the drop made my calves suffer in the last 5km of the marathon, and I didn't feel fast enough at 3:30hr. The AF V2 was a great shoe, but it felt heavy and bulky at the end of the marathon. I keep running workouts in the V1, V2 and V3, and the V3 just gives consistently lower HR and RPE over similar/same workouts. I keep doubting the data....but I'm about ready to just accept the AF V3 is the perfect shoe for me.
No it's not, Nike fanboy.
@@DaveRuns13.1 I have nothing against other brands and own the Takumi Sen, Boston 12 and Adios 6. But something about the airpods just work for me. Not to mention the great heel lock I get on the AF line, which Adidas and Saucony still can't seem to get right (for me). I can only hope you've found the perfect shoe for you!
Couldnt agree more, got my PB with AF V3, really2 comfortable shoes. The perfect shoes
For recreational runners a shoe that lasts longer and a shoe that you can train with and get familiar with it with no fear of "ruining the shoe' is more valuable than a shoe that costs more and is far less durable.
exactly, and that was one of my main reasons why I went for the AP3, and the price of course. I wonder what they are going to do with the next version on this remarkable shoe..
I'd like to hear opinion of 50 y.o. +, that's who can tell me more about comfort and foot condition after say 5-10 miles.. 20-30 y.o can run barefoot and no problem, so they can tell very little about effect on the foot.. IMHO.. Dude runs sub 4 per km.. Cannot tell me anything as these has no body weight and no age to feel any difference.. IMHO.
You can’t go wrong with either. I have both. The AlphaFly 3 is -for me-a superior performance shoe in every way. But, the Adios Pro 3 is far more durable and way more accessible (in terms of price, availability, and general compatibility). Both are super cars, but one is meant for Formula 1 race courses while the other is great for countless hours on the Autobahn.
Adidas pro 3 are by far the best shoes I've owned
Same buddy.
Same!! Thought I will never run a long distance with a super shoe but with the pro 3 that change
Can I use this for a marathon?
@@realgrilledsushi yes they are build for the Marathon
@@realgrilledsushi 100%
My Adios Pro 3 relegated my AF2 into a speed-day workout shoe. I have yet to see if the AF3 is good enough to replace my Adios Pro 3 as my main race-day shoes.
Adios Pro 3 is a great shoe, you can pick up 2 x pairs for the cost of a newer super shoe, and useful for tempo and long runs. I keep going back to mine, for lower distances I can match my pb race times and nothing in it with EP3 and RX2.
I love the AF3, the feel, the fit and the speed, my favourite super shoe yet and it has excellent grip in the wet in relation to other supershoes. Bought a pair of Adios Pro 3's (thankfully on a big discount) and I do not like them, really hard to get a heel lock and the upper on the toe box rubs my toes. I imagine I'll be selling them soon as they just don't feel good on foot for me, too firm and the fit is never right.
I haven't tried the af3 yet, but their verdict captures my feelings on the af1 vs ap3, which are both, by far, the two greatest shoes I've tried. Nothing is close for me.
Purely in regards to performance, the af1 is the better shoe. However, when factoring in versatility (i use my ap3 as a daily trainer and sometimes easy day shoe), durability (my alphaflys have died around 300mi whereas i have an ap3 with over 500 miles thats still going strong), price and ultimately value, the ap3 is the better all around shoe.
Can You please make an Alphafly 3 Vs Hoka Cielo X1 ? 😊
Great review. The Alphafly seems amazing!
Tried and used both (alphafly 2 and Adios Pro 3) but still prefer the Vaporfly series for 5/10/21K races.
Thank you for the fantastic review, it helped nudge me along! The REAL question though - Where do I get watermelon socks? Those are wicked fabulous.
Brav socks. But watermelon sold out, but loads of funky designs
Tempted to buy the AP3 since the AF3 is not readily available in stores.
My knees love the AF3 more than the AP3.
How does the adios go with overpronators?
I have Adidas Adios Pro 3 UK 9..I wanna buy Alphafly next 2 should i take UK 9 or 8 ? Any suggestion..
In my opinion .. the AP3 is the best running shoes I’ve owned .. and tried it so versatile and affordable I just bought another pair at 120$ that’s a very nice price .. not like the other carbon plated shoes today 250 - 300 $ !!! 🥴
Adios pro 3 are the fastest shoes I’ve ever worn. There’s a significant decrease in my HR compared to all the other super shoes I own. BUT I get injured from them constantly.
What kind of injury?
Adios ftw! Good race shoe and also a good trainer
I think these 2 chaps were pro NIKE - Alpha fly 3 before kick off .. the Adidas Adizero Adios pro 3 is by far the superior units .. these 2 are a couple of Squeezers IMO . Don’t be biased.. it shows ok .. now. , the Adidas needs lace upgrade simply .. open up the lace holes and use a soft oval slightly longer lace . To improve the ease of fit with your Adidas Adizero Adios 3 . The # 1 Super Shoe 2024
Not sure how you guys get sales that have these as low as £60. Definitely haven't seen anything close to that in Canada. I like my Boston 12, I don't like an 8mm drop and I'm not a fast runner so if I end up with a race shoe for my first marathon in a few months it will be the AP3.
I have both shoes and the AF 3 is just a better, more comfortable shoe. AF3 will be as durable as any other super shoe I have (almost all of them). Hoping to give sub 3 a shot in the AF3 in the fall at Chicago.
Can you do Cielo X1 Vs Alphafly 3?
Any news on the pro 4’s at all yet ?
Someone said that Believe in the Run said that it will be in the Fall.
@@Kaisersozze hope they come out before London marathon. 🤞🤞
I have heard early April
Dealer told me today he has had meeting with adidas, seen the shoe designs and will be jan 25 release 😊
Would any of these support wide feet?
I have wide flat feet and I found that saucony and asics fits me better than adidas or nike shoes
@@Anatoly_Tsvetkov Agree. I have Saucony Speed 3 and Novablast 2 which are much more comfortable. New Balance as well. Definitey will go for one of their supershoes for my next purchase. I have used AF1, VF2 and AP3. I have stuffed my wide flat mid foot into them. Fiddled with lacing for half an hour to make them comfortable. They are bearable for the benefit up to half marathon distance. But not for marathons.
Pro 3 is £150 at the moment on sportsshoes. Maybe I should get it mmmmmh. Unsure as I loved the original alphafly so much. Don't wanna be disappointed as I like that feel from it.
I have the pro and all the alphaflys
I would never pick up the pro 3 for any kind of race
But there again I like soft bouncy shoes
The pro 3 is okay but it doesn’t feel like a supershoe (make you feel faster , propulsive ) in my opinion
It just feels like a soild shoe and some people probably prefer that
You will be disappointed if you want something like the alphafly
Vapourfly 2 or 3 are great options that don’t cost £285
I can't speak for nike as i won't pay their prices but the pro3 is without a doubt my fastest shoe 👍👍
The AF3 made me blisters on the arch on both sides ...
Nick I am on a mission to try and find my correct size in running shoes, do you mind sharing the length of your foot in cm, it would help me a lot, also if you could comment if that length is before or after a run.
I went with a pair of saucony endo pro3 for a £127.... Kind of thinking i should pick up a 2nd pair before they run out. 😊
As a heavier runner (85kg) don't think I'd risk the lower front stack caused by the 8mm drop on the alphafly 3. Even with zoom in the forefoot, the stack is the same as the Vaporfly next% and that was only good for me to 10k. Vaporfly 1 has an additional 3mm on the forefoot. Plus they look like kitten heels and gaf 😂👍
I stocked on Adios pro 2, incredible shoe in terms of durability, bounce and response. I expect lightstrike pro to deliver the same on the AP3.
alphafly glazing
The alpha fly looks like ass compared the Pro 3 😮💨
No one can feel the difference of 20g between shoes. I don't care what they think they feel.
I run in shoes from 170g to over 300g and there's nothing noticeable that you could quantify to say otherwise. By the time you've added some dirt and sweat/water they go up in weight anyway.
Tom would pick a plimsoll as the best shoe if it had a nike badge on it. 😂
Yeah the main problem with the Nike shoe is how hideously ugly it is. It's a fantastic shoe but it's impossible to look at without retching.
Adios pro 3 are so overrated. Force you to run different to your natural biomechanics as most other super shoes. Not tried alpha 3’s yet but will for the mass colourway release. Saucony endorphin pro 3’s let you run more natural(not the fastest feeling but consistent) just got the endo pro 4’s.
For you they do, but me and many others find the Adios Pro 3 a great shoe for long runs and marathon racing.
@@NateCrailfair play 👍
I feel the adios pro are overrated too.
It’s not a bad shoe in fact I’d say it’s a solid shoe but it doesn’t feel like a super shoe and I don’t feel very fast in it , I’d never pick it for a race
Love the Nike super shoes and I liked the saucony pro 3 but toe box was too narrow so couldn’t use it and had to send it back
Makes you run on the outside of your foot...which is perfect for me, any shoe that forces you to run flat is a disaster for my stride and causes over pronation.
@tono1665 Please share your impression of the Endo Pro 4 compared to the 3’s. I ran a big PR in the Endo 3’s last Apr. but was offered a pair of AF3 to consider for this year (from my running store). I’m somewhat averse to risking since they’re the only Nike shoe I’ve liked at all and very different from the Endo Pro 3. V4 is getting very mixed comparisons and it seems to depend on what kind of foot strike or biomechanics once has, which is preferred. I’ve only put one 14 mi LR on the AF3’s and was impressed but not sure they’re better for me (they’re returnable at least).