Su-57 Felon vs F-15EX, FA-18 & F-16C: BVR Missile Fight | DCS

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  • @stellarsub-orbital9922
    @stellarsub-orbital9922 Рік тому +47

    Doolittle's Raid when?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +14

      ua-cam.com/video/LkCYmnrU5xI/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/3QRZmSqAwH0/v-deo.html

    • @stellarsub-orbital9922
      @stellarsub-orbital9922 Рік тому +18

      @@grimreapers ❤️❤️❤️ awesome, thanks for the links!
      Also, 10 years of UA-cam and I finally got a pinned message 💘

    • @flyingcactus1953
      @flyingcactus1953 Рік тому

      @@grimreapers please do F-35 and J-20 next, you will find all their data on aircraft101 blog.

    • @5Andysalive
      @5Andysalive Рік тому +3

      i've rarely seen a question like that without Cap being able to just post a link to a video.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +5

      Pleasure

  • @MWSin1
    @MWSin1 Рік тому +51

    At this point, the F-15EX is basically a squadron of missiles flying in close formation.

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Рік тому +6

      The F-15EX is more than just a missile truck! Has substantially more powerful mission computer, new cockpit displays, a digital backbone, and the Eagle Passive Active Warning Survivability System (EPAWSS)-- an electronic warfare and threat identification system! With it's two F110 engines its faster and more fuel efficient than The F-15C and E variants! Lol plus it's a missile truck😆 The F-15EX is a beast!

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Рік тому +22

    0:06 - You can almost pick up an F-16 and use it as a fly swatter!
    Holy Moly, I never really realised how massive the amazing F-15 is compared to it's one-number-higher brother!

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +1

      they are both great platforms. the f-15 was built to want the air war in its time and with the modernization upgrades it is still a very potent fighter

    • @CyrrusNL
      @CyrrusNL Рік тому +1

      Have a look at how large a F-14 Tomcat was... they landed those things on floating postcards. It's nothing short of amazing.

  • @cvoltage
    @cvoltage Рік тому +32

    Hey guys. Found your channel recently. Love what you do. I was wondering if you’d re-do the Top Gun: Maverick scenario but with the jet the navy actually would use, the F-35C. Specifically, I’d love to see the dog fight between the f35 and the su57. Thanks! Keep it up!

    • @BaseSerpentMessmer
      @BaseSerpentMessmer Рік тому +3

      That's a really good idea! Would love to see it GR

    • @jdickson1234
      @jdickson1234 Рік тому +1

      Yeah this a fun show. Love hearing the pilot talk and shit

    • @44lucas
      @44lucas Рік тому +1

      Yeah, do that!

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Рік тому +9

    Having AWACS support and AIM-260 really helped the 4th gens.
    The EX is not the true replacement for the Raptor, the NGAD is. With only eighty EXs being built, it's nothing more than a placeholder until NGAD arrives.
    If the B-21 comes with the ability to carry AIM-260s, the EX won't be needed in the missile truck role.

    • @stephenhood2948
      @stephenhood2948 Рік тому

      That is exactly what the F15EX is, a stand in for the lack of F22 until the NGAD comes online. It was never intended to replace the F22, simply supplement it. It's a purely financial decision. Restarting F22 production is just too cost ineffective, especially with the NGAD being so far along in design.

    • @deadmeat8754
      @deadmeat8754 Рік тому +4

      The F-15EX was _never_ marketed as a replacement for the F-22. It _is_ a replacement for the inventory of legacy F-15C/D and potentially the F-15E, all of which are approaching end of life. The F-15EX can also better perform the Missile Truck mission in combination with F-22 and F-35, while boasting datalinks with both. The F-15EX is an amazing Gen4.5+ aircraft which, at the very least, will provide superb protection of CONUS.

    • @stephenhood2948
      @stephenhood2948 Рік тому +3

      @@deadmeat8754 I think the datalink will be the most innovative part. F22s and F35s can stay clean, weapons bays shut, and just call out targets for the F15s to launch AIM 120s at. Not having the datalinks between the Raptors and Lightnings was a real disadvantage. Project Hydra is the game changer here.

  • @nathaniellazo5912
    @nathaniellazo5912 Рік тому +6

    Absolutely amazing match up, loved the dogfight at the end of round 2!!

  • @anxietygamingactual6554
    @anxietygamingactual6554 Рік тому +25

    Quite honestly still believe the SU-57 is being over-modeled in game, as it's unlikely Russia is properly maintaining stealth coatings on the limited airframes they have available.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp Рік тому +3

      Yes. I doubt they actually do any gap filling. Plus the negative impact of partially exposed engine faces is likely much larger than modeled.

    • @RaV591
      @RaV591 Рік тому

      No one knows

    • @toddw6716
      @toddw6716 Рік тому +1

      I agree, all Russian equipment and troops over perform reality in DCS. My issue with GR videos are they are falling into this trap. I play DCS with the AH-64 and get shot down by T-90 tanks more than anything else which is highly unlikely to happen.

    • @timneaves519
      @timneaves519 Рік тому +3

      So let me try to understand your logic to here, because they don’t have many airframes it’s harder to maintain them. I would’ve thought the opposite would’ve been if you have a lot of air frames

    • @toddw6716
      @toddw6716 Рік тому

      @@timneaves519 I doubt they have a coating and the way Russians maintain the rest of their stuff why would this be different. Most of their people are drunks so they don’t have the capability people think. In a battle with NATO remove the nukes and they are toast in a month.

  • @VimyScout
    @VimyScout Рік тому +3

    Exciting stuff. Nice one Cap 👍

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz Рік тому +2

    Thanks for this one, it was very entertaining to watch! Some great flying by all involved.

  • @rohitgoyal7258
    @rohitgoyal7258 Рік тому +5

    Man Simba was a beast today.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      cap was my beauty. lol. thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching.

  • @TheMichael2410
    @TheMichael2410 Рік тому +4

    if possible on the png of the missles could you add the prices of them just to have an idea the difference right there? love the videos much love from Tennessee

  • @Flojer0
    @Flojer0 Рік тому +3

    I like how "the good lord" is the cap deciding ships and rations for everyone

  • @rollyherrera623
    @rollyherrera623 Рік тому +8

    Imagine, 150 4th gens in a real dogfight? I think it really comes down to team communication, and good pilots..

    • @bear76009
      @bear76009 Рік тому +2

      The West has an incredible advantage in the coordination area. And it got even more ahead with the F35s abilities to pass targeting information to other fighters that are not stealthy and allow them to take out the Russian/Chinese planes beyond their ability to respond or detect them.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper Рік тому +3

      It breaks down pretty quickly and will turn into a slaughter fest of friendly fire.
      The problem is, missile warnings becomes useless as that is just a constant alert, all the bearings on your EW, so you never know if it is for you, accidentally for you or one passing you.
      GR has showcased this, and when it gets that hectic, keeping in touch and making Friend and Foe systems work, will not work reliably either.

    • @bear76009
      @bear76009 Рік тому

      @@CMDRSweeper if there is no friend in the area other than the F35 then there is no issue because they are all linked doing the targeting. No gen 4 aircraft from the US side would be near the zone they are firing into.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper Рік тому +2

      @@bear76009 You would think so, but once a massive blob tries to shoot and they get shot at back you will get to the merge.
      And considered all the data that has to travel, it is an annoyance to make that work reliably in a good quiet electronic environment and targets that cooperate with you.
      Now you start factoring in noise, jamming and the like, you will suddenly see a different story, laggy updates, fake contacts.
      As fancy as such systems are, once you get a massive missile launching mess going and the returning fire, it becomes a furball / cluster, there is no way around that.
      Marketing will have you believe otherwise though.

    • @bear76009
      @bear76009 Рік тому +1

      @@CMDRSweeper i used to do sigint in the marines we worked with units simulating what peer militaries can do to the us forces. This isnt DCS or War thunder the people who will do this for real have done massive coordination before and can do it even better now with our improved technologies. There will be no merge because they will be dead period.

  • @alanch90
    @alanch90 Рік тому +3

    Just to be clear on Su-57, it can fit up to 3 missiles of R-77M size in each of the bigger internal bays. So, up to 6 R-77M plus 2 R-74 carried internally

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 Рік тому

      It was never tested in that way, but is a possibility.

    • @alanch90
      @alanch90 Рік тому +2

      @@gaiofattos2 actually we haven´t had a view on a loaded Felon internal bay. However, this data (about being able to fit up to 3 missiles in the main bays) can be corroborated from official statements on Su-75 internal bay, which is the same bay as the Felon (but only one).

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 Рік тому +1

      @@alanch90 I know, I just think that SU-57 have to yet reach maturity in the project to use it's internal bays. That's why everytime we see them using SU-57 is with external payload.

  • @GolddenWaffles
    @GolddenWaffles Рік тому +5

    I really wanna take a look at that post to see the Su-57 secrets 😂😂😂

  • @numbersletters3886
    @numbersletters3886 Рік тому +2

    Nice theme today guys, thanks

  • @RTS907
    @RTS907 Рік тому +2

    What a great fight Reapers! Loved it 🎉

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Рік тому +1

    8:28 hell yeah Cap! Lol you've heard me!😅👍👍

  • @lowtdave
    @lowtdave Рік тому +4

    Yeah. I really liked this video. Maybe have 3x su-57 and 2x su-35s or mig-31s? Felons doing the maneuvering and drawing attention while the 31s lob Saturn 5s (r-37ms) at the blue team.
    I find the Mig-31 to be a fascinating jet. With the super long range missiles and its capability to fly so high and fast, it's extremely dangerous.
    I don't know how many of the 37s it can carry.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +3

      stay tuned there may be a video in the near future that checks many of those boxes

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Рік тому +3

    Simba out hurting feelings. lol

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      just trying to entertain the valued viewers.

  • @riskinhos
    @riskinhos Рік тому +2

    thanks to heat blast. that's great stuff. we really need to know more about it

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/8S9vcM6Oc6E/v-deo.html

  • @Renotrigger
    @Renotrigger Рік тому +4

    I wish I could get that program that lets you keep track of the money spent for equipment, you all use in some of your missions. Because I would love to see how much money I waste just trying to land on a Carrier...lol
    Great Content. Thanks

    • @riskinhos
      @riskinhos Рік тому +1

      that's impossible because you would need to take into account maintenance, pilot training, infrastructure etc etc also comparing dollar to dollar doesn't mean anything. domestic production is always cheaper.

    • @Renotrigger
      @Renotrigger Рік тому +1

      @@riskinhos It was a joke, no need to go there.

  • @Kaelland
    @Kaelland Рік тому +2

    Simba being the man of the match again.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +1

      I just try to give you guys a good show. but watch out for drops and canonball and bird. they are making me work for it even time.

  • @moredeep6946
    @moredeep6946 Рік тому +1

    38:51 Lmao! this is why I watch, once in a while you guy''s give me gold.

  • @skyhorseprice6591
    @skyhorseprice6591 Рік тому +1

    I have decided that I _really_ enjoy this type of fight. It's human v human and jet v jet, with some degree of advantage to certain jets, but never enough to offset great tactics.
    The one fight I'd love to see is the F-35A v the SU-57 Felon. That is, I'd like to see it if the F-35A could have the flight kinetics adjusted. The reason I say this is, the F-35 mod available in DCS was apparently modeled according to the early claims that it couldn't turn for shit, didn't have power for shit, etc. If GR could maybe adjust the F-35 flight model to be as close to the performance you see at airshows from 2019 thru the present, this would be a great fight. The F-35A is no slouch; it can pull quite a few of the same moves as the Raptor, and since it has the most powerful engine ever put into a single engine jet, the acceleration out of post-departure flight is crazy. I have seen one video, from 2020 I believe, where the then-flight-lead pilot, Dojo, performed a literal UFO move with an instantaneous direction reversal that is now named the Dojo Drift. The F-35 is also capable of the famous post-departure controlled flat spin, or 'helicopter' maneuver. Except Captain Kristen 'Beo' Wolfe, the second flight lead of the F-35 demo team, pulled the helicopter move, but exited it by putting the jet in 'knife edge' , after which she hit the burner and accelerated away as if shot from a slingshot, _in a climb!_
    As far as I know there is no other jet that can do this.
    The reason for my near-fanboy mode here is, just once I'd like to see someone do a peer to peer 5 gen fight with the Joint Strike Fighter where it performs like it can in real life, or at least close. Any model I've seen of the F-35 has it hideously underperforming. So if GR could adjust that F-35 to fly up to it's potential & have it fight the Felon, man that would definitely make my year as far as DCS goes. 🤟⚡💥

  • @christophero55
    @christophero55 Рік тому +1

    This was a really fun watch. 🙂

  • @rohitgoyal7258
    @rohitgoyal7258 Рік тому +3

    You should have those SU-57's thrust vectoring modelled.

  • @jefe_golf
    @jefe_golf Рік тому +2

    You should have had him stop the sim, grab an F-14, & finished the end of the round 2.

  • @autonomous3807
    @autonomous3807 Рік тому +2

    24:50 Ok, who traded his flaps for vodka?

  • @vanguard9067
    @vanguard9067 Рік тому +2

    How observable is an Su-57 after it launches all missiles and returns to base? Would rearward RCS be so much greater to actually allow detection by remaining F-15s and their missile launches?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +1

      In real life YES but pretty sure that;s not modelled in game.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Рік тому

    Well done guys!

  • @Musix4me-Clarinet
    @Musix4me-Clarinet Рік тому +2

    Is there a "Latest Mod" of the Su-57? Everything I see on the DCS boards has empty links. Just want to make sure I have the latest. Loved the vid.

    • @totalnerd5674
      @totalnerd5674 Рік тому +2

      What GR is using is one they have specialized for themselves, but they are unable to share it with other people unfortunately.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +4

      Cuban Ace is still working on the su-57 but not at the pace he used to. He has had some positive life changes that require more of his personal time. It is still his passion project but he's not able to log the amount of hours he used to so its a slow development but last I spoke to him he was still doing his thing working to improve the experience.

    • @Musix4me-Clarinet
      @Musix4me-Clarinet Рік тому

      @@simba1113 I think I understand, and I am very happy for him! I have a version that works. I'm good. Just wanted to make sure I had the latest. Thanks for replying.

  • @xpk0228
    @xpk0228 Рік тому +2

    We want the post!

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 Рік тому +2

    It’s a GREAT DAY!

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 Рік тому +2

    Try this again with F22’s vs F15EX please. The F22 is also limited in stealth config far as weapons and fuel capacity.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +4

      F-22 is too good, there would be no challenge. It's full stealth.

  • @jamison884
    @jamison884 Рік тому +3

    I find the RCS estimate reasonable and appreciate the effort you make to keep things current. I think your statement after round 2 says it all, on how you're happy about the balance of the fight. In other words, the best Russia can offer up is a solid matchup for US Gen-4 assets, meanwhile DCS doesn't model the superior US AWACs, electronic warefare, or pilot training. All that adds up to equal a US Gen-4 win if any of this remotely translates to the real world. ^_^

  • @whousley
    @whousley Рік тому

    Phenomenal flying on both sides.

  • @miauwgabriel3547
    @miauwgabriel3547 Рік тому +2

    Cool cockpit for Su-57.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +1

      Cuban Ace has spent a lot of time on that mod.

  • @justfixingstuff1438
    @justfixingstuff1438 Рік тому +2

    should GCI have stopped when both AWACs were lost?

  • @cbrpnk1789
    @cbrpnk1789 Рік тому

    Did you guys setup the data link for the blufor? Not sure if the awacs track was a bug, but it would have helped a lot. Great content heard lots of emotion gaining and losing lock. Very fun!
    Edit: good tactics to have the redfor waste their ammo in round 1.
    Edit 2: without f10 map this would have been way different. But f10 makes it more exciting.

  • @rogesc7183
    @rogesc7183 Рік тому

    When are you going to do the F18C/D the APG-79 AESA radar like the US Marine F-18C/Ds are getting? Love that GR AESA radar in the games you do.

  • @Torichian
    @Torichian Рік тому

    Cap, how do you have access to the Su57 Felon mod? I looked all over the internet and can't find it, also the DCS mod link no longer exists? Wondering if I can get the link?

  • @mattg9971
    @mattg9971 Рік тому +4

    Fly is absolutely hilarious as AWACS

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      yeah I think if I understood German he could be able to make call outs a lot faster. He was helpful

  • @edl653
    @edl653 Рік тому +6

    Simba is so good at dodging missiles in video after video. Does he have a mod advantage or is he just that good a DCS pilot?

    • @jamiejam5783
      @jamiejam5783 Рік тому +3

      He's the People's Champ!

    • @marvinjohnson2488
      @marvinjohnson2488 Рік тому +4

      He's just that good.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 Рік тому +3

      The Force runs strong in that one.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +3

      People's champ.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +2

      Cap over the years has sent me in to be a flying target for so many Sam site mods and naval war games that I have spent a lot of lot of time being chased by missiles. I think he just likes to see me squirm. But I am lucky the GR team has shared advice and things to practice over the years so that I can hopefully present you guys with some good and entertaining clips. Really hats of to the GR members behind the scenes they are a great group.

  • @narfbite5239
    @narfbite5239 Рік тому +5

    Cap calling this "fair" is a bit of a stretch. Having the F10 map is like being able to see your opponents hand while playing cards. F10 map is an insanely powerful tool that is available in game and not in real life. No air frame gives a pilot that kind of real time data, that would completely defeat the purpose of AWACS and Air Battle Managers. Also being able to jump to other people's planes and seeing when they physically launch while awacs cannot see that information defeats the purpose of the simulation.
    Edit: I will say, Cap does a good job of being honest and tries not to give to much information to his teamates; however, there are instances were one side has more information than the would be allowed in real life and that is what makes the results of these sims invalid.

    • @fubar5884
      @fubar5884 Рік тому +7

      I don't see the problem with it. It's no different than having classified data links and the AEGIS and AWACS constantly feeding you info. I see the F10 map as a reasonable way to "game-ify" it. Pilots will more than likely have a map of the AO they will be operating in right there on their right knee, mixed with all the real world real-time info they get and share. Being able to hit F10 to see a map is a reasonable game element, especially when the map is useless unless they are already visible to someone's radar. It's not like you press F10 and the map just auto-populates every enemy on the map like some cheat code. It's still a fog-of-war, you only see what you detect.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Рік тому +2

      They absolutely have super thorough sa screens and with datalink missile guiding they can likely see them. Also where do you think that data comes from lmao. The us has the most interlinked and networked military ever. All data is shared and useable. Doesn’t mean having a gci isn’t exceptionally useful

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Рік тому

      @@fubar5884 perfectly said

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +2

      F-10 set to Fog Of War shows exactly what an aircraft datalink screen shows. Other than pilot name and maybe aircraft type if their radar was not emitting.

  • @mpeugeot
    @mpeugeot Рік тому +1

    So you don't think that any rcs reduction will have been made to the F-15EX. It would surprise me if they don't do some of the same tricks that they did with the Super Hornet.

    • @quickslashgib5800
      @quickslashgib5800 Рік тому

      It would require a major airframe modification. Also the fact that its so large already and is mostly intended to fly with a full loadout essentially negating any added stealth... its simply not worth investing into. The super hornet has a lower grade more robust stealth coating and the angular intakes. Its a decent reduction. Simply put, we have stealth assets designed to work with F15s for the air force. F35s aren't fully proliferated in the Navy yet and super hornets replaced everything for 20 years now. They definitely needed some sort of stealth as the do all for the Navy to fill that capability gap. Even a 20% reduction is 20% reduction in a weapon systems radar accuracy on you.

    • @mpeugeot
      @mpeugeot Рік тому

      @@quickslashgib5800 Actually, if you look at the Silent Eagle program, you would realize that much of the work has already been done. I worked F-15 DT&E for many years (in a very distant past) and you would be surprised at what is truly possible with that platform and what has already be developed/tested. It's an amazing platform and whether integrating some stealth tech is worth it or not is a matter of opinion. I base my opinion on the work that I also did on the B-2 OT&E test team and as a person who supported chase aircraft for the ATF flyoffs back in the day. Some technology that eventually made it into the Raptor was tested on F-15's long before the ATF was ever in production. With regards to the Super Hornet, there is much more than simply the intakes or any coatings that help it with RCS reduction... I can't say anything more than that.
      Researching publicly available information it has been suggest that the Eagle (at around $100 million when the F-35 was projected at $85 million per unit - total fantasy for the F-35) could have achieved a 0.1m2 cross-section from the front and a less advantageous 1.0m2 or higher from other angles.
      If you look up the UA-cam video "vJ3iuU4Y4Bs" you will see why even a 15 degree change in just the vertical stabs will change the radar cross section significantly. Alex Hollings covered this about a year ago in Jan 2022 regarding the F-15EX.

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому +1

    Jeez Simba. Nice

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      right time right place thanks for watching,

  • @ikkinwithattitude
    @ikkinwithattitude Рік тому

    My suspicion is that the PK of the R-77Ms at ~40 miles is too low to allow the Felon to take advantage of its stealth. If the missiles don't have enough energy to counter smart flying from the US 4th gens, the fight is almost guaranteed to end up within the range at which the US 4th gens can fire. And once that happens, the US 4th gens have a missile whose two-stage construction likely increases its PK and in much higher quantity.
    If the Felons were using missiles with a good PK at 40+ miles (or had a RCS that kept them hidden until their R-77Ms had a good PK), they'd have cleaned up. But a low observable airframe doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the outcome of a fight if its missiles can't consistently splash its opponents outside its range of visibility.

  • @jamespaladino1520
    @jamespaladino1520 Рік тому +1

    SuperCap, if the last remaining awacs get a missile on him, will he avoid the incoming and break lock of data to the missiles? It’s turning and diving.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +1

      Yes I believe when he dives, he will stop supporting the DL and any missiles will fail.

  • @dwwolf4636
    @dwwolf4636 Рік тому

    I bet we'll start to see missiles that combine IR and Radar guidance.

  • @nasty3145
    @nasty3145 Рік тому +1

    So the SU57 cross section is around 13x13x13 inches? Give or take 1/4 of an inch.

  • @stephenhood2948
    @stephenhood2948 Рік тому +1

    I did not know the Super Hornet had such a low RCS.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому

      0.5 clean. Not bad.

    • @stephenhood2948
      @stephenhood2948 Рік тому

      @Grim Reapers Compared to today's aircraft that isn't that impressive, but considering when this fighter was designed it is very impressive. I had always thought it was more akin to the Viper or Eagle.

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 Рік тому

    I wished I could write code, and I mean really good code. I would create an "AESA Quantum" radar. An AESA radar with a Quantum computers speed, and if lucky, an encrypted random frequency scan. That should negate any RWR system. In a weapon guidance mode the missile would need a matching encryption code. This would make an almost completely "stealth" weapons track, until the terminal phase. Hopefully, at the absolute last seconds. If I could built a fighter (dogfighter primarily, and BVR secondary) it would be a lifting body with a large wing area and LEXs, the same engines as the F-35 x2, engine spacing like an F-14, or Su-27, limited thrust vectoring (+/- 2° in three dimensions) canards with the option for matching or opposing directions from the elevons, a two place cockpit, and passive/active stealth capabilities. It might even be a jet biplane (two sets of equal span wings) along with the canards and tailplane.

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 Рік тому +3

    Someone please teach fly some halfway decent comms standards

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      he's getting there. you have to remember he is German and trying to do real time call outs in English. the more he does it the better he will get.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Рік тому +2

    F-15EX is 4+/4.5 Gen just like Typhoon and Rafale ;)
    😄 lol F-15EX VS SU-57 is essentially 4+ generation VS 4+ generation!

  • @williamroberts6803
    @williamroberts6803 Рік тому +1

    Isn’t the F-22 rapper a 4th generation fighter?

  • @dekanusg5425
    @dekanusg5425 Рік тому +1

    Guys i play dcs and watcing all your videos. I like to ask where to find and how to get aim 260 missles for f15 ex and i cant find su 35s mod. Please answer me. If i need to pay i will. I realy love playing dcs.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому

      This is the best link I have: ua-cam.com/play/PL3kOAM2N1YJcbzwU5FCo0DRmCdF3owO1o.html

  • @freddiejohames8332
    @freddiejohames8332 Рік тому +2

    Typhoon v felon?

  • @miauwgabriel3547
    @miauwgabriel3547 Рік тому +1

    When will be the AIM-260 mod be released?

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому +1

    How you guys just jump into different jets and know how to operate it?

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      well some things translate well between air frames and we try to have key binds that are the same so we can lighten the cross over work load.

  • @AG-le3ee
    @AG-le3ee Рік тому

    Would love to see this with f22 and/or f-35 in place of the felons

  • @AyOuB.God-soldier
    @AyOuB.God-soldier Рік тому +1

    Super cap did the R37M can fit inside the su 57 like one of the su57 be an AWACS killer

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +1

      In theory it can carry two R-37M internally. Not sure they've ever flown like this IRL.

  • @ur_quainmaster7901
    @ur_quainmaster7901 Рік тому +1

    Would love to know if adding the Peregrine missile is in the works...

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +1

      Yup def possible.

    • @ur_quainmaster7901
      @ur_quainmaster7901 Рік тому

      @@grimreapersI think it will be a game changer for F35. F15ex load out will be nuts... I'd guess it would trade 2 AIM-260 for 8 Peregrines on outer pylons. Or a 1for1 swap of Peregrines to 120Ds and fight at a lower weight....all sorts of possibilities.

  • @ecbst6
    @ecbst6 Рік тому +1

    Hmmmm Sunday Funday Stealth Scavenger Hunt?

  • @paulcadden4967
    @paulcadden4967 Рік тому +3

    How can you be flying the most manoeuvrable jet about today and not allow it to be as manoeuvrable as it is?

    • @immortaldev1489
      @immortaldev1489 Рік тому +1

      I agree, they should've went through the effort to put in the thrust vectoring, but it's still superior to the f18 in pretty much all aspects without it

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +1

      We've used our own GR flight model for it, it's not very good but at least it goes the correct speeds etc.

  • @timothyfeyes7998
    @timothyfeyes7998 Рік тому +3

    Did u figure in the how many will crash due to no maintenance

  • @BaseSerpentMessmer
    @BaseSerpentMessmer Рік тому +3

    You should do how many gen 1 jets It takes to beat a 5th gen

    • @BaseSerpentMessmer
      @BaseSerpentMessmer Рік тому +1

      I know you covered why you guys don't make futuristic ships in the last video, but you guys should check out the NGAD and maybe do something with that

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/6ylFoLmqMao/v-deo.html

  • @mpeugeot
    @mpeugeot Рік тому +1

    F-15EX should be configured with conformal weapons stations.

  • @13deadghosts
    @13deadghosts Рік тому +3

    Given that the thing has exposed screws phillipshead screws everywhere, completly exposed engines,... I am not sure the damn thing even has an actual RAM coating. It maybe is stealth from the front, put as soon as it pulls any AoA or manuever, it's going to light up like a fucking christmas tree with those engines. But hey, I don't have access to (probably a million dollar) RCS Simulation software so I will happily defer judgement to the experts :D

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому +1

    This sim is amazing.

  • @frenchroast1355
    @frenchroast1355 Рік тому +1

    Damn...I need a new computer...

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому +3

    Interesting. 4th gen not useless.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      these are more like 4.5 gens. there is a lot of cross over technology shared between the newest f-15ex and the 5 gens

  • @markymarc12
    @markymarc12 Рік тому

    Fantastic.

  • @lowtdave
    @lowtdave Рік тому +1

    2x mig 31s or su-35s with the Felons would be overload of beautiful jets for me.
    Seriously, the Russians make the sexiest jets.

  • @mateen6849
    @mateen6849 Рік тому +1

    Watched sandboxs videos on the AIM-260 and you guys are honestly spreading misinformation. How do u guys know the correct model and characteristics of a missile that nobody knows about yet. No matter where u look, they have like 10 different models on the internet.
    It’s sad the bias, on this channel because the missile was given imaginary stats and rushed to he modeled so that you have a weapon to make sure America and NATO stays on-top in the War-games….. it’s honestly disappointing, just stick to the aim-120D that is currently in service, with enough information to model. The aim-120D performance in game is modeled realistically enough, I see no need in using completely estimated technology. You might as well start modeling the 6th gen fighters america is working on, or china’s stealth j-35 and stealth bombers at this point.

  • @OscarZheng50
    @OscarZheng50 Рік тому +3

    a felon not being able to see a super hornet? it should be the other way around

  • @jd-todo2447
    @jd-todo2447 Рік тому +1

    what misile mod are you using?

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому

      its an in house mod that we have been developing and testing for quite some time now. making tweaks trying to get them to perform as best we can with in reason to the public data on these missile. we have gone through multiple versions of missiles and aircraft to the these to work.

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner Рік тому +1

    25:00 only the finest Russian engineering?

  • @lars9966
    @lars9966 Рік тому +3

    would it be possible to do a dogfight with an swiss f18 (no AOA limiter) and a su 35?

  • @danielblea3520
    @danielblea3520 Рік тому +3

    The people's champ!

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Рік тому +1

      thanks for the nice words and watching the video.

    • @danielblea3520
      @danielblea3520 Рік тому

      @@simba1113 no problem, love them (most of them, lol). I've flown with you guys before, Jimbo48 is my call sign. Maybe I'll see you in the air on one of these Sundays

  • @woodlanditguy2951
    @woodlanditguy2951 Рік тому

    What if the SU-57 starts out with an extra 2 wing mounted weapons that they fire at the beginning of the conflict. IF the SU-57 fires them off fast enough, they can go stealth and still have 4 weapons while their long range wing mounted weapons run the distance while they get into place. Could turn the battle completely on it's head.

    • @qfinck
      @qfinck Рік тому

      The mounting equipment for the missiles on the wings would still be there and increase the RCS unfortunately.

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 Рік тому +2

    Fast decent missile trucks with decent radar FTW. F15EX is a beast! A couple of them hunting is a crap ton of missiles.

  • @brckshouse3660
    @brckshouse3660 Рік тому

    Comments for the bump

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton Рік тому

    Can't find Heat blast?

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby666 Рік тому +1

    I'd like to see his calculations on the B-21.
    My source show the B-21 is as good or better than the F-22.
    The F-22 today is our best RCS aircraft. With around 0.00001.
    I'd like to see if his model can confirm this?

    • @yujinhikita5611
      @yujinhikita5611 Рік тому

      One or two zero too much

    • @Istandby666
      @Istandby666 Рік тому

      @@yujinhikita5611
      Then obviously you don't know much.
      My biological father worked on these aircraft. Do you have any information from someone who has actually worked on it? Sounds like you don't know anyone.
      I'll stay with the actual figures I know, because my information comes from the people who worked on these kind of program's.
      Did any of you grow up living in the U.S. government above top secret clearance program's? No? Well, I did.
      My biological father has worked on the F-117, B-2, YF-118, YF-22, Ghostbuster (B-52), Grease Lightning (unknown hyper Sonic test vehicle), and other's.
      You don't have to believe and I don't care. People like you have been in my life trying to put my down, because you can't believe or understand the life I've had and you don't understand the negative impact growing up in this kind of world has on people.
      I'm not here to put anyone down. I'm stating you don't understand the life I had growing up in a dark shadow world. We grew up with the government listing in on our calls, our whole life. My biological father almost lost his job, because my older biological brother was talking to someone about Senior Trip. Senior Trip is another Above Top Secret black government project. When he was actually talking about his senior high school trip. He almost lost his job when my youngest brother made his name in the antelope valley newspaper in football. I almost caused him to lose his job, because I made the antelope valley newspaper for going to Southern California State Championship in long distance track.
      I'm trying to be a source of information from someone who lived this life.
      It's the same way with our personal airplane. If you Google N51305, this is a Grey Cessna 150. We started building this airplane around 1982. The grey paint was radar absorbent paint from a government auction when Rockwell went under. That lead to Dryden NASA from Edwards Air Force Base to work with our airplane. We still have VHS footage.
      Our families airplane design was mixed up in some guys book Northrop black patches or something like that. ATOP (Advanced Technology Observation Platform) was a forward swept wing design to replace the O-10. We made a 1/3 rd scale model (8ft wingspan) which we attached to the left wing of our Cessna 150. The ATOP was attached to a bomb rack mechanism. Due to the added lift the atop model caused, we had to increase the wingspan of the Cessna 150 by 6ft and add winglets (which we called antlers). After these mods, our airplane could take off at 12 knots. And yes, I have taken off by flying backwards. But, no matter how many times I talk about my life, it's so unbelievable that that's what people do, they dismiss me.
      So, no matter how much you don't want to believe in fact's. The fact is this was my life and you not believing isn't going to change the fact that I lived this life.

    • @yujinhikita5611
      @yujinhikita5611 Рік тому

      @@Istandby666 ok imma send this to the warthunder forums real quick I'm not here for grandads stories. just said publicly known info says 0.0001 or 0.0005 some even say 0.001. but if you want to go around and spew classified info on the internet or maybe its a copypasta (i didn't read it) then that's just fine. but you should learn to keep things short. also you literly start by calling me stupid. lol.

    • @Istandby666
      @Istandby666 Рік тому

      @@yujinhikita5611
      You are obviously a troll.
      At no time have I ever used the word stupid. BYE TROLL!!

    • @yujinhikita5611
      @yujinhikita5611 Рік тому

      @@Istandby666 i take, "dont know much" as stupid in this context as you go out of your way to then tell me your entire life story that no one cares about. while also spouting classified military secrets. while talking in this belittling tone. if you're new to the internet you should learn the difference between a troll and somebody who thinks what you are saying is bollocks.

  • @LT_Cobra270
    @LT_Cobra270 Рік тому +2

    Noice

  • @iananderson3871
    @iananderson3871 Рік тому +1

    Maybe

  • @GryphonArmorer
    @GryphonArmorer Рік тому

    You have to knockout the AWECS as soon as possible to cripple them.

  • @jd-todo2447
    @jd-todo2447 Рік тому +3

    can you put the mod links?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому

      Mods: ua-cam.com/play/PL3kOAM2N1YJcbzwU5FCo0DRmCdF3owO1o.html

    • @jd-todo2447
      @jd-todo2447 Рік тому +1

      @@grimreapers i know but i ask for the misile mods

    • @jd-todo2447
      @jd-todo2447 Рік тому +1

      thanks for the reply

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Рік тому +2

      @@jd-todo2447 as they’ve said in a myriad of videos the aesa and missiles and their modified jets are internally made and not available

    • @jd-todo2447
      @jd-todo2447 Рік тому

      @@Utubesuperstar thanks

  • @bryanmiller4366
    @bryanmiller4366 Рік тому +1

    do it again without awacs?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому

      GR missiles don;t work with AWACS.

    • @bryanmiller4366
      @bryanmiller4366 Рік тому

      @@grimreapers Russia gets no AWACS, nato side gets an f35 or two to direct the missile trucks. Stealths out of missiles or only heaters so their goal is to direct teammates. Or better put "how good is the f35 at force multiplying"

  • @zahnatom
    @zahnatom Рік тому +1

    quick qestion: why is the flag in the short range AAM file for the AIM-132 an EU flag? afaik its British only(development)

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 Рік тому

      MBDA is a European conglomerate (Airbus, BAE and Leonardo) and Germany was initially involved in development, also what is today the UK division of MBDA was originally the Anglo-French firm Matra BAE Dynamics.... so its complicated.

    • @zahnatom
      @zahnatom Рік тому

      @@watcherzero5256 yeah but it was developed by MBDA UK

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 Рік тому +1

      @@zahnatom Yep which as I said was at the time 50% French after the merger with half of Matra missiles, then to complicate things even further there was the other Italo-German MBDA pre-cursor company Euromissile which the other half of the French Matra merged with inside EADS (later Airbus) which would then remerge with Matra BAE Dynamics to form MBDA with the letters taken from each company.

  • @davidgray2559
    @davidgray2559 Рік тому +1

    How does one join your crew????

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +2

      Join here: ua-cam.com/video/Z_tR7H7hu5o/v-deo.html

    • @davidgray2559
      @davidgray2559 Рік тому

      @@grimreapers thanks Cap. Going to smash out some of the training.

  • @Pand0rasAct0r_
    @Pand0rasAct0r_ Рік тому +10

    i mean isnt the su57 more like a 4.5 ish gen? i absolutely think a good 4th gen pilot will be able to beat a felon. if any russian technology in ukraine is an indication i also have no doubt that russia oversells its technology by a lot.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Рік тому +2

      Not really sure TBH. Most people seem to call it 5th gen.

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 Рік тому

      What has Russia overselled?

    • @Pand0rasAct0r_
      @Pand0rasAct0r_ Рік тому

      @@grimreapers i believe a 5th generation fighter jet can be called as such if it is a full stealth capable plane. the felon is only semi stealth and has to make up for it using technology. I think this is the biggest factor that determines its not a 5th gen fighter jet but more like a 4.5 as it is better than 4th but its missing crucial technologies to be called a full 5th gen fighter jet. like the f22 and f35 and maybe the j20 but thats also debateable as its never proven itself.
      and as the war in ukraine has showed, russia has been selling a lot of lies on their technological advancements over the decades. their fighter jets arent as capable as they say they are they arent even risking their felons and have them lobbing missiles safely in russian airspace. Their s300-s400 sites arent as capable as they claimed either. as even a new ukranian drone the UJ-22 i believe its called almost reached moscow the other day and it supposedly crashed on its own and was not shot down by the s400 sites defending moscow. Same as several airports who were protected by s300 sites and possibly s400 who also failed to intercept drone attacks. their t90's are also not as advanced as they say and are easily taken out by javelin anti tank missiles.
      But of course we can be thankful for that because that made nato fully commit to its technological advancements and has thus given nato a clear technological advantage when it comes to military hardware.

  • @glennmoore6968
    @glennmoore6968 Рік тому

    Have you ever done "The Night Witch" bombing raids of Russia in WW2?

  • @arceuslee7087
    @arceuslee7087 Рік тому

    LOL What's the point of stealth when you are constantly looking at them on map

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому

    Got Violet!

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому

    Not always which gen aircraft. Pilot traing and Aviators (Navy). Duh.

  • @jdickson1234
    @jdickson1234 Рік тому

    Absolutley. Missile trucks and 5th gen

  • @mrlodwick
    @mrlodwick Рік тому +1

    Thank you all.

  • @deadmeat8754
    @deadmeat8754 Рік тому

    Unrealistic soft stats for the SU-57 : Too generous RCS. Too, the F-15x, F-16x and F/A-18x can (and likely would) mount the Legion and IRST21 pods respectively, which would've made your scenario less Felon friendly. This doesn't even consider use of Sniper and EPAWSS.

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 Рік тому

      How is the RCS to generous? What do you think the RCS would be?