One more may be too many... 1970's Metropolitan Police Traffic Division
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2013
- Short film from the late 70's of the Metropolitan Police Traffic Patrol - TDK...
The Police Station was located in Chadwell Heath and is now the Eva Hart Public House (named after a local lady who was a Titanic survivor)...
Filmed by Bob Miller, staring Chris Raindle and Les Pratt... all stars in their own right...
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Filmed on 2nd July 1975 (based on the intel briefing at beginning).
Proper Coppers that really knew their stuff, great to watch and remember.
Thanks for posting.
My dad was one of the old school officers, he was a beat bobby on the Delves in Walsall!
P6's one of the best looking cars ever
The police car is "M" registered. This equates to being put on the road (for the first time) between August '73 and up to the end of July '74.
Mr. Harris of Newlands Road (10 minutes) gives his DOB as 1932. If he's still around, he's 89 now.
Good detective work.
My dad was born in 1932; he was a copper for 26 years until he had to retire on health grounds (by which time I would have been in my late teens). Alas, he died ten years ago this month. The video footage dates from my early years (now aged 52!)
Nice to see the 'calibrated' centre speedo waving around like a old land rover one... Right Les !!!!!
What a terrific film, A great snapshot of Britain in the 1970's, I remember these Rover p6 police car's in and around London when I was a kid, Thanks for posting.
52 years ago.
1970 was the year I was born...
Love to go back to the 70s...
13.16... Some one rides past on a
pedal bike... There was never safety precautions back in the 70s..
Nice bit of film. Reminds me of time spent with my brother John Craggs, and his colleagues, who worked out of Chelsea nick throughout the 70s. Old school, common sense policing.
John preferred the Rovers to the Triumph 2500pi, as he said the Triumph was much more tail-happy on wet corners.
Let's pull the MIni and check the handbrake...
The number of Minis failing their MOT because of weak handbrakes in the late 1970s at the place I worked was unbelievable.
The adjusters were square and made of cheese so sharp became rounds or cones. You could have the handbrake perfectly set and choose to use it or never use it and after 2 weeks it would be out of adjustment. The Minis with front discs faired better. The drums all round were press and pray.
@@Retro_Rich ha, if drums on a mini is press and pray, id like to know what 4 wheel drums on a factory hemi car is😂 , i know a guy with 2 original hemi cars although rated at 425hp, it was for insurance purposes, stock spec hemi engines have been found to make upwards of 475hp
@@Retro_Rich The square adjuster sits at the top of the back plate and adjusts the rear shoes.If it was so badly unadjusted then the footbake pedal would also have very long travel.In my experience the main prob. with hand brakes was that the cables left and right passed over a quadrant to go 90 degrees from for and aft to sideways.The quadrant was supposed to turn freely on steel pin thru the subframe but would quickly rust solid (freeze/seize).So the effort applied to the lever never made it into the handbrake actuating mechanisms which were also primitive steel on steel pivots and prone to seizing which would then cause the linings to bind and wear out.
4.05 Those sideburns got promoted to sergeant, earned a long service medal and retired after 30 years on full pension. No idea what happened to the copper wearing them though.
Some say he became disoriented in his own bush and is searching for an ear at least.
I’ve had sideburns of various lengths since I was 14. I like Samson would lose all strength if they were fully shaved 😢
What a great little film thanks for posting 👍👍
nice to hear their private conversations....human beings.
Yes... it has all gone to hell now with Bolshy bastards and plenty of attitude.
I like the mk1 Granada being pulled over, reminded me of my 3.0 GXL
I didn't probably look such a cool dude as him though 🤣
Yeah, bet he stank of alcohol and old spice 😉
This was my manor in the 60s/70s. Had the misfortune of seeing the inside of CH nick for juvenile thieving - fine £5. My first car was a mk3 Cortina - this brings back some memories from the days before the area was ruined by mass immigration. It's now more like a town from the Indian sub-continent.
Impressive.. police officers actually taking care of their cruisers, checking the fluids topping off as needed, well trained law enforcement agency..
I found this film some time ago and it really takes me back. I used to drive Juliet 4 out of Chadwell Heath. After the closure of the old JH which is now, as correctly stated, the Eva Hart pub (Eva Hart being the last survivor of the Titanic disaster who lived in Chadwell Heath), it moved just round the corner to Wangey Road. Sadly, that station has now also closed. The RTC was in New North Road near Hainault underground station and the other locations were all around 'J' and a bit of K.G. (Dagenham). Brought back great memories of tearing round the ground with the two-tones on !
Time moves on eh?
Hello Roy. I was based at KG and know most of the locations in this film. A bit before my time, but still great memories.
Hello Roy - you would have know my father then - Chris Raindle... good times...
@@paulraindle6047 The name is familiar Paul but he may have been there before my time. I came to Chadwell Heath in 1975, from H division and left there in about 1985.
@@KCAZYT Dad was at TDJ & L at the old place - he was there until they opened the ‘new’ place about a mile away... he move to India-99 just after they started the unit at Lippits Hill...
Should bring back the traffic division in all areas because driving habits are getting a lot worse since the introduction of CCTV and speed cameras some 30years ago. When the traffic police were around you hardly seen red light jumpers. Its in epidemic portions these days.
Its amazing to see the technical knowledge the officers have of the vehicles on the road and also the discretion they seemed to have back then. It is something not many of the traffic officers seem to have these days.
Officers to day don't have technical knowledge of cars these days because manufacturers chose to make there own parts unique to each car that make
And besides these days few people are even interested in how a engine works most people just want to know how to put fuel in charge the car and fill the tire full of air and engine with water and brake fluid
Long story short; A time when common sense was still prevalent.
@@sh-ig9fm Manufacturers today use parts which are shared between makes and models, just the same as it was during the era featured in this clip. The largest difference between then and now is that cars now are far more complex to manufacture and - to a lesser extent - service. You could carry a spare set of plugs, a condenser, leads, etc. in the boot and many people would be able to diagnose and fix basic problems. Remember the days of holiday makers trundling up the Fosse Way, pulling over every so often to check the fluids? The shift in interest in cars happened when they became more difficult to fix on the driveway.
They didn’t make enough of these classics which are so interesting to see what it was like on the roads back then!!
I’ve never seen so many Bedford T.K. Lorries on the road and they were the best lorry to buy years ago I’ve had a couple of them!!
Love all the vintage motors
transits - escorts beautiful cortinas
Just don’t see vehicles like these anymore and they all have our great young memories of the days long a go
When your family were all young kids who grow up in them days FairPlay to them all god bless you all
guys & girls ))
Some of us officers still have good technical and mechanical knowledge these days.
Unfortunately a lot do not. Their idea of traffic/roads policing is chasing after ANPR hits.
Unique bit of film thanks
That sunglasses driver should have been done for that remarkable lurching stop at 12:07
It’s a shame the met are not like the past I love the old clips
Place the traffic cone next to the casualty and everyone is safe- job done Gov.
Yes I noticed that too. No road closures for a mile long.
What a lovely video.
Great old film, I know most of those roads. The old A13 before it all changed and a brief shot of the ford works on dagenham and the person who was run over was just round the corner from where I live now, although it still largely looked the same.
5.30 jeeze that last lethal driving
Great footage ,thanks for sharing
I grew up round that area see a few familiar places
some really wonderful filming angles. x
That’s good spaghetti western music there.
Love the music!
Doreen Green its the virginian 1962 opening theme
I really love watching these old cop documentary’s because they are of a time that will never be like this again
Even some of the things the police used to do were since scarped
by law!!!!!!!! That man who was speeding on the motorway got off very lightly the cop could’ve done him for speeding and careless driving
Etc etc etc !!
Great piece of film, great nostalgia with all the old cars especially. As a kid in the 70'S, i remember the police have p6 rovers, but seem to remember them mostly being dark blue, rather than white, or is my memory playing tricks on me?
The blue ones were area cars attached to a police station as opposed to the white ones which were Traffic division and operated from a traffic garage
I was born in the wrong era. Wish I lived in those days.
Blimey!! This film is as old as me, give or take a few weeks. (Born July 1973..)
The good old days
For some.
Real life experienced down to earth British Police officers. Not the case today and I miss them greatly !
The dreaded call every police driver knows ....err can I have the traffic Sargent please ... meaning...I've just pranged a job car....and the......is about to hit the fan....lol
I could spot, Heath Park Road, the A127 stretch from Ardleigh Green Road to the Upminster junction, the Lodge Avenue junction flyover on the A13
Back when there were characters about and people knew who they were.
That was a bit nifty the way parked that Granada. 12:07
Yeah and all real life! How lucky there was a cine camera set up and rolling.
1974 cortina 1.6 XL in Modena green..
Britain seemed much quieter than!
Proper collar numbers!
Theme from _The Virginian,_ by Percy Faith. Interesting placement but a classy tune.
Thanks, it was bugging me that I recognized the tune but couldn't ID it.
I first saw a P6 V8 met. police Rover on an H plate in 1969.
13:17 - watch the kid on the bike lol, cycling past the granada stop.. when people didnt realy care lol, happier times
3.5 s... what a machine., has a few...
ah the Rover P6 V8 had a few myself .. the cars not beers :D
Hope their driving has improved since the 70’s
music is the virginian 1962 opening theme
check out that expert parking at 12:06 hahahah
Les Crossland of “Liver Run” fame…
From the days when ordinary coppers could give car thieving kids like me a smack (or more) with no comebacks and the CID were as bent as the villains.
😂😂😂👍
This brings back on memories, times have certainly changed but I am sorry to say not for the best reasons, wheres that time machine.🧐
The geezer in the Granada (or Consul) looks well dodgy.
he should have told them "I'm on my way to audition for the Sweeney"
I think he was clearly on something stronger than alcohol
Good breaks though, even managed to kerb it @ 12:07 😁 🍺 🍺 🍺
84mph mega cool dood looked stoned to me. hope he is still alive
Bet he had a drink when he got home after that close call ☺️
Old-school blue shirts!!....
And all nylon shirts too!
TRUNCHEON FILM PRODUCTIONS
I was afraid for them really, those vehicles were metal weapons if the crash didn't kill you the car would. Much better crash designs now.
The Rover P6 was one of the first UK cars designed with safety in mind. I remember the adverts pushing safety for this model. Crush zones, option of Denovo run flat tyres, etc.
nice from south African metro police
+Pit bull power systems it's the LONDON metropolitan police, you bell-end! You SERIOUSLY need to go to Specsavers.
sir/madam i am from jhb metro police
The handbrake of the mini needs some ajustmend
12:03 fortunate that the camera was there to capture the stop. 😂
Cool, at 7:00 Is that a stobart truck ?
Looks more likely to have been made in about 1971, judging by the latest models of car apparent.
The very first car is an M reg. So at least 73/74
it was 1975
Was that Mantovani music I heard in the opening few minutes...?
When policemen were policemen
All cars mp out
84 in granny mk1 3ltr!
There's been some debate here regarding the vintage of when this upload was filmed, well if you go to 10:35 (click this time stamp) you can just make out 'Jun 1973' on the coppers form, middle right.
The patrol car was an "m" reg so 1973 was about right
A little bit later, the officers are wearing white shirts, the Met changed from blue shirts 75ish
@10:00, born in 1932, means now he would be 86, if hes still alive.
+Trab Ali Unless you're sending your comment back in time from the future your maths is a little suspect, born in 1932 he'd only be 85 in 2017...
your right, sorry about that error mate. but its all about the saints.
+Trab Ali It happens to all of us, sometimes the brain just has a control+alt+delete moment, I just though I'd mention it before some troll went banzai on you for it...
cheers bruv.
+Trab Ali My pleasure...
9:15 You chat him up.oooooo
Is this real life or staged?
If real how's the camera man able to film the action out of the car?
Sadik Meah mostly real events - the camera-man was a serving Police Officer also.
@@paulraindle6047 Hmm a definite directed film.The stopping of the speeding Granada was an obvious staged event with separate take with camera set up to film the car stopping behind the Rover.
I love to see old pictures and videos of 1960s police cars especially mk1-2 escorts mk1 ford transits/mk1-3 ford cortina's + rover p6/ford zephyrs/ mk1 granadas as back in 60s/70s virtually all cars was flying machines and even a little hillman imp or mini 1275gt took some catching!!! Where as today's poor quality plastic crap tin cans that look terrible and perform like shit! At least with older cars they man run Rough nut still run and drive this modern trash 🗑 just cuts out and dies sadly plus costs a fortune to repair!!! 🥳🥳🥳😎
"Look, there's a n****r driving a Ford Granada, must be nicked, let's pull him over, drag him out and beat him to a pulp."
"Great idea, Regan."
I loved the old caution
You are not obliged to say anything - unless you wish to do so
However anything you do say will be taken down in writing and may be used/given in evidence (against you?)
Nowadays
You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned anything you later rely on in court
Anything you do say may be given in evidence
What are you waffling on about?
@@Keithbarber The guy was pointing out how cautions for arrested criminals, have changed over time. Seems straightforward to me.
@@commandingjudgedredd1841 - sir, may I respectfully draw your attention to the fact that it was myself that posted BOTH comments, which you may not have noticed?
12.26 No way carlito brigante.
6:55 why that police car doesn’t have any markings? It looks like a private car with a blue light.
Back in the day, most police cars were black, blue or white, with blue light. Quite often some forces had "Police" on the sides, bonnet or rear. There didn't seem to be a standard through out the various constabularies. Met cars quite often had the two roof mounted spot lights. About this time the "jam sandwich" was coming on the scene. This was basically a broad, high-vis orange stripe down the side of the car. This eventually lead to the"battenburg " markings seen today, which are pretty standard across the country.
@@samanli-tw3id They didn't have a standard livery until the latter 1990's for traffic cars with full battenburg livery and then gradually through the 00's with everything else in half battenburg. Before that a wide range of livery existed including - Orange stripe with blue reflective edge; Orange stripe with yellow edge (BTP); Orange with yellow centre and later blue edge (Met); Yellow with blue edge (W.Yorks); Yellow with black/white chequer edge (Notts); Yellow with red edge; Thin blue only (D&C); 2" blue & 2" green stripe (Merseyside), and so on.....
The P6 Traffic (white) cars were the first Met cars to get the high-visibility side stripes, but not until the last of them were issued, about two years after this was filmed. I can remember seeing, and photographing just such a car in late 1977. Up to this time area (blue) cars did not have the word "Police" on them at all, just a central roof blue light and usually two flood lights either side of it. Traffic cars had a small "Police" plate mounted on the rear of the car, (not visible in the shot to which you refer) and that was it. Not like the very obvious markings of today. This had one great advantage, in that the vehicles looked enough like police cars when they had to, but were not so stark as to show out before offenders realised that the rozzers were upon them! This only applies to the Metropolitan Police in London. Other forces had their own, totally different liveries and standards, about which I have no knowledge.
McNee changed that.
What is the exact year of this film?
I believe it would be around 1975/6.
@@paulraindle6047 Thank You.
Before August '75 as the MoT in the untaxed truck that was stopped was due to expire then, and the insurance in '76. I'd say May/June '75
@@mylesurquhart Thank you for your reply.
Tax is in the post how long 6 months genuine isn't Rodders yes Dell
I’m here for the siren at 5:04
And those Rover P6s also had had a bell (in Met parlance a "gong") under the bonnet! Great times!
All that's missing is the theme tune from The Sweeney.
What is the music used in this film? thanks .
vteccanary its on a episode of top gear when thay make home made limo's it plays when the do a paint ball test.
vteccanary i finally found it the virginian 1962 opening theme
Music is the Theme from “The Virginian”...
when Britain was a first-world nation - - fascinating time-capsule!
I realize us Americans drive opposite, but I had to cringe when they pass cars into oncoming traffic!
Areset every one back in them days even victims for making a fuss in the first place
So the Mini had done nothing wrong but they pulled it over for a suspected dodgy handbrake? How can they tell that on the move?! And lo and behold it does have a dodgy handbrake. Setup much? And if it's not a setup it's discrimination to pull Minis in the hope of finding a dodgy handbrake.
People used to have a bath about twice a week in those days.... That's if they had one.
Nasty asses,
I will never forgive Tony Blair the Labour Party or the Conservative Party for what they have done to my country and to think our ancestors fought for this to the death . I detest any of them in power since 1997 who contributed to the decline and hardship of today
Fuck me the ROVER P6 3500 V8 . Got me off big superbikes. A black man showed me the way forward in the early 80s . "Glasford daily' you're a legend he calmly explained cars were Warm fast music and pussy in the next seat . Our police we're given SD1 2600 to catch me in a 3500 V8. Not a hope in hells chance. I remember being asked to pull over outside BRIXTON Police station at 4am by traffic division in a SD1 V8 Which literally had no working rear dampers. The guy with a white cap said his car was 0 to 100 mph in 11 seconds, and my car was 0 to 100 in 22 seconds. He said to me even YOU cannot make up those 11 seconds. After the stop was over we drove through Brixton towards upper tulse hill were we both stopped at a red light. The lights turned green and after 22 seconds no police car was visible to me. Literally the Policeman was utterly useless behind the wheel. LIke all the rest ive encountered over 30 years. Maybe with the exception of a Policeman Who showed me ABS at 120 mph and going around roundabouts the wrong way. Worst thing he could ever of done. I think he was called Williams. "I salute you ' literally Hundreds of policemen, of all ranks and experience in pursuits and in far superior cars, SHAT on.ELITE DRIVERS YEA RIGHT .Pull the other 1 fellas it has bells on.