this is clear that both languages are quite different Malay seems more than analytical here than English or Iban. I can understand 80% of the text Iban seems as like verbatim translation I also notice that Iban has its own script. It is called Dunging as per Omniglot
Actually, as an Iban speaker who attends Iban Catholic mass, the translation shown in the video is wrong 😂 This is what we actually use: Apai kami ti di surga Kudus meh nama Nuan Datai meh perintah Nuan Jadi meh peneka Nuan Ba bumi baka di surga Beri kami saritu umbas pemakai kami Ampun meh penyalah kami Baka kami ngampun penyalah urang ti salah ngelavan kami Anang meh mai kami ngena penguji Tang lepas ka kami ari penyaik.. Amen. Also, our traditional script is Turai, one of the oldest in Southeast Asia. Source: Me (Iban Sarawak)
Satu - sak/chan Dua - duan Tiga - dangku Empat - dangkan Lima - tibak/limak Enam - tunggul/ nam Tujoh - pusil/ tujoh Lapan - kulat/slapan Sembilan - changku/ semilan Sepuloh - kedat/spuloh
Iban Sarawak juga pakai ini, tetapi ini digunakan dalam kesusasteraan, upacara adat dan sebagainya, bukan dialek seharian. Ini kami panggil sebagai Bahasa Kayangan atau Bahasa Sebayan.
As a Malay speaker with no prior exposure to Iban, I understand about 30-40% of the language. I understood some of the sentences almost entirely, but only certain words for the rest lol
As an Iban speaker, the translation seems a bit too verbatim. And as a typical Dayak language, it varies from region to region alrhough we could generally understand each other. For example, machete could be duku/ belida or crocodile = bayak/jago
One Of Proto Malay Language. Proto Malay Came From West Borneo. Interesting Fact Malayo-Chamic Came From West Borneo Also,Nowadays There's Theory North Great Borneo Familiy Language. Austronesian People Who Came From Taiwan/Fujian Shore,They Are Through Philipine,Then Borneo,Before Goes To Sumatera And Java.
@@harry77998 But Austronesian Tribes Who Living In Java in Present Day,they origin from Borneo and Sumatera. Austronesian People are came from two direction to Java Island (called Sunda Besar also) who from Yunan,they were crossing Malay Penisula,then to Sumatera,aftermath to Java Island. Lida Ajer Site is one of oldest site of Austronesian People from Gayo. Route from Taiwan👉Phillipine👉Borneo-Java Island.
Iban and Malay are very close. Iban is closer to spoken Malay on the peninsular than Sarawak Malay in phonetics. Closer to satndard Malay than Kelantanese Malay. When I hear Iban songs its like hearing Malay and yet I cannot under stand all. Malay speakers can pick up Iban easily if there is constant exposure. Needless to say All Ibans speakers also speak flawless Malay.
Sa is more correct actually, satu really from Malay influence, iban speaker in this vid really can't differentiated what's origin iban what's derived from Malay.
Bahasa Melayu berasal drp bahasa Proto Malayik yg berasal dari Barat Kalimantan, kemungkinan Bahasa Melayu berasal drp Bahasa Dayak atau Iban, sbb itu banyak persamaan...nenek moyang org Melayu asalnya Dayak jg...Pemburu kepalak...
Dayak di barat kalimantan itu melayu tua, merekalah yang memelihara budaya asli melayu, melayu muslim budaya baru percampuran dari budaya melayu tua + india + arab
@@fariswijayamokoginta-alt1 I know, but only in small diaspora. It's not even taught at Indonesian schools like Malaysia did. Malaysia has the biggest Iban speakers rather than Indonesia with more than 1 Million speakers.
As a Muslim Malay, it feels weird to be reading a text in my native language quoted from the Bible. Normally we would read a Malay translation of the Quran. 😅😂
Terjemahan dy tu pelik sikit, sepatutny klau bahasa melayu mcm ni: “Ya Bapa kami yang di syurga, sucilah nama-Mu. Datanglah kerajaan-Mu. Terlaksanalah kehendak-Mu di bumi sebagaimana di syurga. Berilah kami makanan untuk hari ini. Ampunkanlah kesalahan kami sebagaimana kami mengampuni mereka yang bersalah terhadap kami. Janganlah biarkan kami tergoda, tetapi selamatkanlah kami daripada yang jahat. Engkaulah yang empunya kerajaan, kekuasaan dan kemuliaan selama-lamanya. Amin.”
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this is clear that both languages are quite different
Malay seems more than analytical here than English or Iban. I can understand 80% of the text
Iban seems as like verbatim translation
I also notice that Iban has its own script. It is called Dunging as per Omniglot
Iban has alot of dialects..some of them sound like other malay dialects
Zach liang
New script can't considered as traditional.
Actually, as an Iban speaker who attends Iban Catholic mass, the translation shown in the video is wrong 😂 This is what we actually use:
Apai kami ti di surga
Kudus meh nama Nuan
Datai meh perintah Nuan
Jadi meh peneka Nuan
Ba bumi baka di surga
Beri kami saritu umbas pemakai kami
Ampun meh penyalah kami
Baka kami ngampun penyalah urang ti salah ngelavan kami
Anang meh mai kami ngena penguji
Tang lepas ka kami ari penyaik..
Amen.
Also, our traditional script is Turai, one of the oldest in Southeast Asia.
Source: Me (Iban Sarawak)
Bapa kami yang di syurga. Engkaulah Allah yang Esa, semoga Engkau disembah dan dihormati.
Satu - sak/chan
Dua - duan
Tiga - dangku
Empat - dangkan
Lima - tibak/limak
Enam - tunggul/ nam
Tujoh - pusil/ tujoh
Lapan - kulat/slapan
Sembilan - changku/ semilan
Sepuloh - kedat/spuloh
Ni salah satu dialek Iban ya?
@@amiruzfadhlan3478 yes
Iban mualang sepauk
0 - nadai
1 - sak / cen
2 - duen
3 - dako'
4- dakai
5 - dima
6 - dinam
7 - dima duen
8 - due'
9 - damong
10 - dadai
itung antu ntik jakok kami mualang
Iban Sarawak juga pakai ini, tetapi ini digunakan dalam kesusasteraan, upacara adat dan sebagainya, bukan dialek seharian. Ini kami panggil sebagai Bahasa Kayangan atau Bahasa Sebayan.
As a Malay speaker with no prior exposure to Iban, I understand about 30-40% of the language. I understood some of the sentences almost entirely, but only certain words for the rest lol
For some reason, I hear Iban having the beginnings of vowel breaking, somewhat similar to Minangkabau.
Interesting duo.
henry golding is iban from his mom's side. (no one asked but fun fact i guess)
As an Iban speaker, the translation seems a bit too verbatim. And as a typical Dayak language, it varies from region to region alrhough we could generally understand each other. For example, machete could be duku/ belida or crocodile = bayak/jago
Buen vídeo, podrias hacer uno sobre el idioma nubio ❤❤
Lima gang!
One Of Proto Malay Language.
Proto Malay Came From West Borneo.
Interesting Fact Malayo-Chamic Came From West Borneo Also,Nowadays There's Theory North Great Borneo Familiy Language.
Austronesian People Who Came From Taiwan/Fujian Shore,They Are Through Philipine,Then Borneo,Before Goes To Sumatera And Java.
China Fujian Austronesia? 😅
@@薛氏-z5sits historically place that believe to be location where our austronesian ancestors first emerge before migration
Java language is not malayic , only borneo sumatera and malay peninsula
@@harry77998 But Austronesian Tribes Who Living In Java in Present Day,they origin from Borneo and Sumatera.
Austronesian People are came from two direction to Java Island (called Sunda Besar also) who from Yunan,they were crossing Malay Penisula,then to Sumatera,aftermath to Java Island.
Lida Ajer Site is one of oldest site of Austronesian People from Gayo.
Route from Taiwan👉Phillipine👉Borneo-Java Island.
@@薛氏-z5sThe Austronesians who gave birth to the Malay Race, Formosans, Melanesians and Polynesians possibly cam from China before Han period
Something I notice when reading & listening the Malay texts that there are added words which are not from the English texts
A product of localization, perhaps?
Iban and Malay are very close. Iban is closer to spoken Malay on the peninsular than Sarawak Malay in phonetics. Closer to satndard Malay than Kelantanese Malay. When I hear Iban songs its like hearing Malay and yet I cannot under stand all. Malay speakers can pick up Iban easily if there is constant exposure. Needless to say All Ibans speakers also speak flawless Malay.
Iban language belongs to the Malayic languages family.
ALLAH BLESS THE SPEAKERS
No iban peoples majority Christian
@@beyurzelfIf you've ever read an Iban bible you'll know that they use the word Allah Ta'ala for God, lol
@@WannzKaswanthose that proof ur point?
It do refer to god, but normally we just say god of jesus
@@wenceslausmanjan7288 Allah is not Muslim's God
Allah is just God in Arabic
Jesus is the son of Allah
@@WannzKaswan does I ever said Allah is only for islam?
Iban❤
Usually "satu" is referred as "sa" in iban literature, idk maybe that's from my region dialect
Sa is more correct actually, satu really from Malay influence, iban speaker in this vid really can't differentiated what's origin iban what's derived from Malay.
Same as Balinese and champa sa 1
Bahasa Melayu berasal drp bahasa Proto Malayik yg berasal dari Barat Kalimantan, kemungkinan Bahasa Melayu berasal drp Bahasa Dayak atau Iban, sbb itu banyak persamaan...nenek moyang org Melayu asalnya Dayak jg...Pemburu kepalak...
Dayak di barat kalimantan itu melayu tua, merekalah yang memelihara budaya asli melayu, melayu muslim budaya baru percampuran dari budaya melayu tua + india + arab
Asal melayu dari dayak iban...sebab itu orang melayu dan dayak bersaudara.@@pansuhjanik-bb3vr
Tapi ada bangsa lain cuba melagakan lagakan org melayu , iban dan dayak ..
Betul tuu
Satu moyang yg sama. .
guys…ni doa dkt church ok 😭🤣🤣🤣
What about it?
Ukai Iban ba Sarawak Malaysia meh???
Should I call my bank I need IBAN
not funny
You will get IBANNED for that joke.
@@aitokoojii1462 ok
@@aitokoojii1462 LMAO🤣🤣🤣
Do you want me to teach you iban language?
Gilaki Language Coming Soon!
گیلکی
Im a iban tribe.
Wait org asklian
He will become headhunter
Iban satu ❌
Iban sa ✅
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Why there is Indonesia flag? It should be Sarawak flag.
This language is also spoken in parts of Kalimantan, Indonesia.
@@fariswijayamokoginta-alt1 I know, but only in small diaspora. It's not even taught at Indonesian schools like Malaysia did. Malaysia has the biggest Iban speakers rather than Indonesia with more than 1 Million speakers.
I think we should not using country flags to represent a language
@@amoggoma430 true
Perhaps to show that both of these languages (Malay and Iban) are found in both countries?
As a Muslim Malay, it feels weird to be reading a text in my native language quoted from the Bible. Normally we would read a Malay translation of the Quran. 😅😂
The sharia law maybe preventing Malays to read the bible, isn't it? I feel you
@@koootoshidayo Actually no. Islam does not ban Muslims nor Malays or any particular race to read the Bible.
@@koootoshidayoo even alot Muslim study bible to have a debate in comparative religion
@@koootoshidayoIt's not reading the Bible that's banned, Malays legally cannot be of another religion except Islam
Terjemahan dy tu pelik sikit, sepatutny klau bahasa melayu mcm ni:
“Ya Bapa kami yang di syurga, sucilah nama-Mu.
Datanglah kerajaan-Mu. Terlaksanalah kehendak-Mu di bumi sebagaimana di syurga.
Berilah kami makanan untuk hari ini.
Ampunkanlah kesalahan kami sebagaimana kami mengampuni mereka yang bersalah terhadap kami.
Janganlah biarkan kami tergoda, tetapi selamatkanlah kami daripada yang jahat. Engkaulah yang empunya kerajaan, kekuasaan dan kemuliaan selama-lamanya. Amin.”
That Malay one doesn't sound like the Lords Prayer
I think the iban version more similar to indonesian version
Looks fine to me. The text has been localized a bit but the message is still the same