Aristotle's Politics: Natural Slaves and The One True Statesman

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @RossArlenTieken
    @RossArlenTieken Місяць тому +2

    Thank y'all again for this series. Excellent discussion. Really, it keeps leading back to "if the citizens are virtuous, it works."

  • @steven2183
    @steven2183 Місяць тому +5

    “The art of being a slave is to rule one's master.” - Diogenes

  • @lowersaxon
    @lowersaxon Місяць тому

    Enjoyable and instructive discussion.

  • @axeofperun4499
    @axeofperun4499 Місяць тому

    This is a great discussion, and I'd love to hear more on the theme of slavery in the classical world.

  • @XC0r3
    @XC0r3 Місяць тому

    You are al ones deliverance

  • @freigeistvonlebenskunst1982
    @freigeistvonlebenskunst1982 20 днів тому

    What Aristotle didn't mention at all, is how the Ionian and Dorian warrior elites had created the socalled "natural slaves": They had conquered and submissed the native Pelasgian population of Greece, destroyed their tribal communities including their political selforganization (polity), prohibited their mental and social maturation and abused their bodys as beasts of burden. Then they claimed, that the submissed had no reason and there only use for society was as slaves. I call that very, very cynical. Typical Indo-European warrior elite cruelty cloaked in high philosophy. The price of such barbarism was the degeneration of Greek society in ever lower levels of politics, ending in democratic or tyrannic mob rule. The end of original tribal polity was indeed caused by mass enslavement and the creation of a majority of politically degenerated people. Aristotle was obviously not smart enough to understand this simple historical facts.

  • @XC0r3
    @XC0r3 Місяць тому +1

    Rid of money when AI is advanced enough to do all our labors. Certain things that requires manual labor people would voluntarily do the job with honour and purpose. This if all or most love their neighbor and value unity and harmony.

    • @XC0r3
      @XC0r3 Місяць тому

      Trust in God and know that God will rid all bad deeds and deceivers, for truth is harmless in its stillness.

    • @XC0r3
      @XC0r3 Місяць тому

      Any desire to rule is the way to be no more. For when the light shone, God said its very good.

  • @josefdawson5284
    @josefdawson5284 Місяць тому +1

    is the transition from tyrant to monarch kind of the british move? or different in some way?

    • @NewPolityPodcast
      @NewPolityPodcast  Місяць тому

      Are you talking about the absolutist period? Or another time in British history?

    • @josefdawson5284
      @josefdawson5284 Місяць тому

      @@NewPolityPodcast nah I mean the current constitution. I don't really know much about history, but it seems like the british monarchy isn't monarchy in the sense that you talk about it, I thought that this might be somewhere that their mode fits into the broader political philosophy that you're outlining here. The bit about decreasing in powers seemed somewhat similar.

    • @josefdawson5284
      @josefdawson5284 Місяць тому

      @@NewPolityPodcast I guess I'm trying to contextualize monarchy being the "best" form of government when I live under a monarchy (in New Zealand) technically, but it's practically just like any other bureaucratic government.

    • @NewPolityPodcast
      @NewPolityPodcast  Місяць тому +2

      Got it. If the manner of rule is bureaucratic and managerial, then it’s safe to assume that the regime is not the one of a king. Plato and Aristotle allow for kingship when all of the citizens are virtuous and more or less ruling themselves.

  • @authenticallysuperficial9874
    @authenticallysuperficial9874 Місяць тому

    Yikes

  • @kahnlives
    @kahnlives Місяць тому

    Is Dr Jones teaching his class on the beach, his tan is insane! 🫤

    • @NewPolityPodcast
      @NewPolityPodcast  Місяць тому +3

      Our lighting runs a bit hot. Although, the beach sounds like a better set than our studio.