What Aristotle didn't mention at all, is how the Ionian and Dorian warrior elites had created the socalled "natural slaves": They had conquered and submissed the native Pelasgian population of Greece, destroyed their tribal communities including their political selforganization (polity), prohibited their mental and social maturation and abused their bodys as beasts of burden. Then they claimed, that the submissed had no reason and there only use for society was as slaves. I call that very, very cynical. Typical Indo-European warrior elite cruelty cloaked in high philosophy. The price of such barbarism was the degeneration of Greek society in ever lower levels of politics, ending in democratic or tyrannic mob rule. The end of original tribal polity was indeed caused by mass enslavement and the creation of a majority of politically degenerated people. Aristotle was obviously not smart enough to understand this simple historical facts.
Rid of money when AI is advanced enough to do all our labors. Certain things that requires manual labor people would voluntarily do the job with honour and purpose. This if all or most love their neighbor and value unity and harmony.
@@NewPolityPodcast nah I mean the current constitution. I don't really know much about history, but it seems like the british monarchy isn't monarchy in the sense that you talk about it, I thought that this might be somewhere that their mode fits into the broader political philosophy that you're outlining here. The bit about decreasing in powers seemed somewhat similar.
@@NewPolityPodcast I guess I'm trying to contextualize monarchy being the "best" form of government when I live under a monarchy (in New Zealand) technically, but it's practically just like any other bureaucratic government.
Got it. If the manner of rule is bureaucratic and managerial, then it’s safe to assume that the regime is not the one of a king. Plato and Aristotle allow for kingship when all of the citizens are virtuous and more or less ruling themselves.
Thank y'all again for this series. Excellent discussion. Really, it keeps leading back to "if the citizens are virtuous, it works."
“The art of being a slave is to rule one's master.” - Diogenes
Enjoyable and instructive discussion.
This is a great discussion, and I'd love to hear more on the theme of slavery in the classical world.
You are al ones deliverance
What Aristotle didn't mention at all, is how the Ionian and Dorian warrior elites had created the socalled "natural slaves": They had conquered and submissed the native Pelasgian population of Greece, destroyed their tribal communities including their political selforganization (polity), prohibited their mental and social maturation and abused their bodys as beasts of burden. Then they claimed, that the submissed had no reason and there only use for society was as slaves. I call that very, very cynical. Typical Indo-European warrior elite cruelty cloaked in high philosophy. The price of such barbarism was the degeneration of Greek society in ever lower levels of politics, ending in democratic or tyrannic mob rule. The end of original tribal polity was indeed caused by mass enslavement and the creation of a majority of politically degenerated people. Aristotle was obviously not smart enough to understand this simple historical facts.
Rid of money when AI is advanced enough to do all our labors. Certain things that requires manual labor people would voluntarily do the job with honour and purpose. This if all or most love their neighbor and value unity and harmony.
Trust in God and know that God will rid all bad deeds and deceivers, for truth is harmless in its stillness.
Any desire to rule is the way to be no more. For when the light shone, God said its very good.
is the transition from tyrant to monarch kind of the british move? or different in some way?
Are you talking about the absolutist period? Or another time in British history?
@@NewPolityPodcast nah I mean the current constitution. I don't really know much about history, but it seems like the british monarchy isn't monarchy in the sense that you talk about it, I thought that this might be somewhere that their mode fits into the broader political philosophy that you're outlining here. The bit about decreasing in powers seemed somewhat similar.
@@NewPolityPodcast I guess I'm trying to contextualize monarchy being the "best" form of government when I live under a monarchy (in New Zealand) technically, but it's practically just like any other bureaucratic government.
Got it. If the manner of rule is bureaucratic and managerial, then it’s safe to assume that the regime is not the one of a king. Plato and Aristotle allow for kingship when all of the citizens are virtuous and more or less ruling themselves.
Yikes
Is Dr Jones teaching his class on the beach, his tan is insane! 🫤
Our lighting runs a bit hot. Although, the beach sounds like a better set than our studio.