I do a lot of nightclubs and birthday events and F4 is perfect because I am using a flash all the time and DOF is shallow on 2.8 for most of the part that one person is in focus but the other is not, so I am mostly around 5.6 or so, and F4 does that wonderfully well for me :) and it's a lighter lens and a reasonable price.
I've definitely been there! I'm guilty of shooting way too shallow on prime lenses and letting people fall out of focus. Sometimes a well-composed sharp image is far more important than getting a slightly shallower depth of field.
The difference between f/4 and f/2.8 is only one stop. You won’t notice it in most situations. You can easily make it up with the IS or shutter speed/ISO.
@@jake13696 what camera are you using? Maybe it’s a sensor issue? Also, with the IS in the lens, you gain at least one or two extra stops and can shoot at lower speeds.
@@datfly3034 I had no IS in the lens. And I am referring to the tokina 11-20mm f2.8 back when I had my 80D. In videos my footage would become basically unusable around 6400 ISO and it wouldn’t allow me below 1/50 shutter speed. That’s at f2.8 aswell. Keeping in mind it’s probably because the types of photography I do, sometimes does not allow for a tripod or taking flashes etc (sometimes they don’t make a difference either really) Nowadays I shoot on an eos R so I find myself in that sutuation a lot less now though! 😬 unless it’s really dark and I’ve got no decent light source especially when using the 85mm too. I find myself shooting at f1.8 - f2.8 and ISO’s above 8000 in order to retain a shutter speed of like 1/60 or faster.
Got my 16-35 f4 last weekend just before a weekend trip Fun shooting with it New dimension added to my photography style, got to upgrade my skills more on composition Now I understand wide angle lenses help us learn skills and they're just super creative than tight focal lengths
Congrats on your lens. I’m looking to get it. I saw it for about $400 on bestbuy, open box. Im still undecided, im in between this lens or Canon 17-55mm f2.8 Sigma 18-35mm f1.8
Yoo haven’t dropped by in a bit but glad to see you back with another video! This was a review of a lens I wasn’t even looking for (I shoot on E mount) but stayed just for the chill vibes and gear talk love the presentation
who said nobody want an F4 in their kit??? f4 is awesome. All the f2.8 lenses are way heavier and more expensive. whether you need big aperture depends a lot of what you are shooting.
I bought it for like 350$ used in Akihabara Japan in great condition few weeks ago. I must agree, this is not only a workhorse but also my new best buddy.
Merhaba Video için teşekkürler.bu lens'e yeni sahip oldum. ancak bir şey dikkatimi çekti. Odak halkası netlik aramak için dönerlen 3 kademeli bir Tıkırtı sesi yapıyor sizde de böyle mi?
Next lens on my wish list. I love my 35mm but when I’m cruising the landscapes of northern New Mexico it just isn’t wide enough. This is the lens I wish I had the last time I went. Can’t wait to get it.
I just purchased this lens. Why are the objects so blurry? I have tried so many settings for interior photos and compared to my Tamron 28-75mm. Set on 28 mm same settings the Tamron is much sharper. How and why?? So frustrating.
This lens will totally work on the 70D, however, you're not getting the most out of it. Because, this lens is for a full-frame sensor the 70D's smaller sensor won't even utilize all of the glass (in other words, this lens is overkill). For much cheaper, I'd consider something like a Canon EF-S 10-18 or even the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 (which will let in a lot more light). The only real reason to buy this for a crop sensor camera is if you plan on upgrading to a full-frame in the future and don't want to deal with replacing lenses. It'll work great on your 70D, but there are cheaper lenses that will work just as good. Hope this helps!
Hey there thank you for sharing this video, I'm a beginner and I want to photograph RE do you know if this lens fits the Canon Rebel series? Thank you in advance
I very much enjoyed your review Josh. I really liked how you highlighted your points with actual shots. Nicely done. I've got the F4 and if I 'read between the lines', it should be fast enough if I want to try some astrophotography. Any thoughts or advice on settings? My guess is the 500 rule should apply but at F4, thoughts on what ISO to start out at? Thanks so much
Excellent informative video thanks though my confusion is just about getting 16 35 f4 or 24 70 f4 and its sucking my brain cant really decide which end of the focal range will be more usable to me. i know its my call but seems really a hard one to make
i have an 80d and i want to buy me a great camera lens i'm not a photographer but i do a little something but i want like 3 camera lens and one prime lens so please help me out okay thanks
Hi What if they were both the same price or fairly close like a $100 difference which one would you pick? I have a opportunity to grab one of them(mark iii 2.8 or 4) but they are close to the same price which one would you recommend? I do photography mainly but I do want to get into video
Sometimes. When I first got the lens I thought it'd be a lot worse than it actually is. If you use a wireless lav or boom pole it won't matter, and honestly when vlogging it doesn't matter much but if you're filming in a silent room and heavily using autofocus it'll be super noticeable. Definitely depends on your style of filmmaking but most lenses have some autofocus noise.
If it is just for the EF 16-35mm f/4 L IS USM - then most certainly: Hell yeah! It is stuck to the front of my body right now. Haven't found a single time where I would prefer the f/2.8 over this, just to lose the IS and gain who knows. Neither of them is bad, but I can always crank up the ISO one more notch on the f/4, and no one will be able to tell the difference. If I ever find that I need a more shallow depth of field, then I have either a 50mm, or a 100mm or a 135mm. I know that I will have to sacrifice something (field of view for example) when doing so, but I'm fine with that if it ever happens.
The Sigma 18-35 is a GREAT lens for APS-C. Although the focal length sounds similar, with the crop factor it isn't quite as wide, but the fast aperture is incredible for APS-C cameras!
Most of the time I like to underexpose my images to save as much detail as possible which I can manually bring out via lightroom. F4 is great. As long as you do not want to shoot Bokeh. When I travel, I normally travel to hot countries and F11-16 are my favorite F stops. Anywhere between these F stops. I do not use a 2.8 in low light situations, I would use my RF Cnaon 1.8 35mm. I personally think 2.8 is neither bright or dark. If you want Bokeh then 2.8 is not enough. 1.8 or lwoer is more ideal. I wouldnt know why would someone not buy this instead of the RF version. It is a rip off.
I made tons of money with this lens, its absolutely a stunning lens. And cheap on used market too...
I do a lot of nightclubs and birthday events and F4 is perfect because I am using a flash all the time and DOF is shallow on 2.8 for most of the part that one person is in focus but the other is not, so I am mostly around 5.6 or so, and F4 does that wonderfully well for me :) and it's a lighter lens and a reasonable price.
I've definitely been there! I'm guilty of shooting way too shallow on prime lenses and letting people fall out of focus. Sometimes a well-composed sharp image is far more important than getting a slightly shallower depth of field.
was gonna say same thing
Sweet! This is good to know and helpful!
The comment i was looking for.
Would you recommend this lens over the sigma 18-35mm F1.8
canon EF-S 17-55mm F2.8?
The difference between f/4 and f/2.8 is only one stop. You won’t notice it in most situations. You can easily make it up with the IS or shutter speed/ISO.
Depends what you shoot though! F4 lenses always let me down but I shoot a lot of low light and so it makes sense.
@@jake13696 one stop is easily compensated for with contemporary digital cameras. If you’re shooting film that’s a different story.
@@datfly3034 I’ve even run into issues where f2.8 isn’t enough to get a decent video that isn’t made of noise. And that was on at 17mm..
@@jake13696 what camera are you using? Maybe it’s a sensor issue? Also, with the IS in the lens, you gain at least one or two extra stops and can shoot at lower speeds.
@@datfly3034 I had no IS in the lens.
And I am referring to the tokina 11-20mm f2.8 back when I had my 80D. In videos my footage would become basically unusable around 6400 ISO and it wouldn’t allow me below 1/50 shutter speed. That’s at f2.8 aswell.
Keeping in mind it’s probably because the types of photography I do, sometimes does not allow for a tripod or taking flashes etc (sometimes they don’t make a difference either really)
Nowadays I shoot on an eos R so I find myself in that sutuation a lot less now though! 😬 unless it’s really dark and I’ve got no decent light source especially when using the 85mm too. I find myself shooting at f1.8 - f2.8 and ISO’s above 8000 in order to retain a shutter speed of like 1/60 or faster.
Got my 16-35 f4 last weekend just before a weekend trip
Fun shooting with it
New dimension added to my photography style, got to upgrade my skills more on composition
Now I understand wide angle lenses help us learn skills and they're just super creative than tight focal lengths
Congrats on your lens. I’m looking to get it. I saw it for about $400 on bestbuy, open box.
Im still undecided, im in between this lens or
Canon 17-55mm f2.8
Sigma 18-35mm f1.8
Canon 16-35mm F4. YES. 💯
It has distortion but is wonderfully sharp & great colours
Yoo haven’t dropped by in a bit but glad to see you back with another video! This was a review of a lens I wasn’t even looking for (I shoot on E mount) but stayed just for the chill vibes and gear talk love the presentation
Everyone is so crazy over fuzzy back ground they constantly smear out part of the primary object !!! I like the F/4 a lot.
The fact that you are able to fly, already put everything in this video out of my price range.
Good job!!! I enjoyed your video! Going to get my 16-35 2.8 iii tomorrow. Regards from Saudi!
Will a speed booster help with a low light situation?
Been too long, welcome back!
Excited to be back, next few videos will be coming out significantly quicker!
who said nobody want an F4 in their kit??? f4 is awesome. All the f2.8 lenses are way heavier and more expensive. whether you need big aperture depends a lot of what you are shooting.
how loud is the autofocus for video?
Great video dude!
Thanks!
7:37 which 2.8 did you mean? 2.8L USM/2.8L II USM/2.8L III USM ?
I bought it for like 350$ used in Akihabara Japan in great condition few weeks ago. I must agree, this is not only a workhorse but also my new best buddy.
Hi Josh, do you think this is a good wide-angle lens for a beginning landscape photographer?
Merhaba Video için teşekkürler.bu lens'e yeni sahip oldum. ancak bir şey dikkatimi çekti. Odak halkası netlik aramak için dönerlen 3 kademeli bir Tıkırtı sesi yapıyor sizde de böyle mi?
first like , love from India
Next lens on my wish list. I love my 35mm but when I’m cruising the landscapes of northern New Mexico it just isn’t wide enough. This is the lens I wish I had the last time I went. Can’t wait to get it.
Hope you get some sweet shots once you get it!
I just purchased this lens. Why are the objects so blurry? I have tried so many settings for interior photos and compared to my Tamron 28-75mm. Set on 28 mm same settings the Tamron is much sharper. How and why?? So frustrating.
Hey Josh! What do you think about the new RF 16mm? i'm looking for a wide angle..
That’s gonna be my next lens coming soon 👍🏽
Excited for you!
Is this lens only suitable for full frame, or can it also work well on the 70D?
This lens will totally work on the 70D, however, you're not getting the most out of it. Because, this lens is for a full-frame sensor the 70D's smaller sensor won't even utilize all of the glass (in other words, this lens is overkill). For much cheaper, I'd consider something like a Canon EF-S 10-18 or even the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 (which will let in a lot more light). The only real reason to buy this for a crop sensor camera is if you plan on upgrading to a full-frame in the future and don't want to deal with replacing lenses. It'll work great on your 70D, but there are cheaper lenses that will work just as good. Hope this helps!
Hey there thank you for sharing this video, I'm a beginner and I want to photograph RE do you know if this lens fits the Canon Rebel series?
Thank you in advance
I very much enjoyed your review Josh. I really liked how you highlighted your points with actual shots. Nicely done. I've got the F4 and if I 'read between the lines', it should be fast enough if I want to try some astrophotography. Any thoughts or advice on settings? My guess is the 500 rule should apply but at F4, thoughts on what ISO to start out at? Thanks so much
What lens do you used for this video ?
Excellent informative video thanks though my confusion is just about getting 16 35 f4 or 24 70 f4 and its sucking my brain cant really decide which end of the focal range will be more usable to me. i know its my call but seems really a hard one to make
i have an 80d and i want to buy me a great camera lens i'm not a photographer but i do a little something but i want like 3 camera lens and one prime lens so please help me out okay thanks
Hi What if they were both the same price or fairly close like a $100 difference which one would you pick? I have a opportunity to grab one of them(mark iii 2.8 or 4) but they are close to the same price which one would you recommend? I do photography mainly but I do want to get into video
For sure the 2.8. Only in your dreams😂
These lens work good in 4000D ????
Hey awesome vid! Just curious have you ever dealt with the rattling noise of the auto focus ruining a video shot with the f/4?
Sometimes. When I first got the lens I thought it'd be a lot worse than it actually is. If you use a wireless lav or boom pole it won't matter, and honestly when vlogging it doesn't matter much but if you're filming in a silent room and heavily using autofocus it'll be super noticeable. Definitely depends on your style of filmmaking but most lenses have some autofocus noise.
If it is just for the EF 16-35mm f/4 L IS USM - then most certainly: Hell yeah!
It is stuck to the front of my body right now. Haven't found a single time where I would prefer the f/2.8 over this, just to lose the IS and gain who knows. Neither of them is bad, but I can always crank up the ISO one more notch on the f/4, and no one will be able to tell the difference.
If I ever find that I need a more shallow depth of field, then I have either a 50mm, or a 100mm or a 135mm. I know that I will have to sacrifice something (field of view for example) when doing so, but I'm fine with that if it ever happens.
Great video! Also, what are your thoughts on a similar type of lens for aps-c which is the Sigma 18-35mm?
The Sigma 18-35 is a GREAT lens for APS-C. Although the focal length sounds similar, with the crop factor it isn't quite as wide, but the fast aperture is incredible for APS-C cameras!
Most of the time I like to underexpose my images to save as much detail as possible which I can manually bring out via lightroom. F4 is great. As long as you do not want to shoot Bokeh. When I travel, I normally travel to hot countries and F11-16 are my favorite F stops. Anywhere between these F stops. I do not use a 2.8 in low light situations, I would use my RF Cnaon 1.8 35mm. I personally think 2.8 is neither bright or dark. If you want Bokeh then 2.8 is not enough. 1.8 or lwoer is more ideal. I wouldnt know why would someone not buy this instead of the RF version. It is a rip off.
Ice Lake! Love the Wallowas
Same!
Great video
Thanks!
Is has way better corner sharpness performance than 16-35 F2.8 Mark I and II. Between this one, Tamron 15-30 F2.8 and Sigma 20 mm F1.4.
Tbh the bokeh and night shots are barely even noticeable. This lens might be worth it
If you ever need FPV shots let me know!
3:45 i cant even tell the difference in bokeh
The Canon 16-35mm f/4 IS USM is worth whatever you have to pay for it.