The Poor Beggar's Feast

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  • Who helped the poor in the 18th century? Was there infrastructure for that? They were begging if to build poor houses, but what about the sick? How did the down and out live? What was the poor beggar’s feast?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 681

  • @manicmechanic448
    @manicmechanic448 22 дні тому +1462

    Hi. You don't know me, and probably don't remember my dad, Tom. He got to meet you a few years ago. He portrayed the American long hunter. He passed away last week, and I just wanted to say thank you for meeting with him. He was really proud of that. So, thank you.

  • @peerpede-p.
    @peerpede-p. 22 дні тому +744

    My grand-mamma was born in a "poorhouse" about 1890, got out, married to a fisherman, my grandfather, they had 7 offspring, one is my late father...
    I am 75 years old.

    • @sevenproxies4255
      @sevenproxies4255 22 дні тому +91

      Always nice to see when seniors interact with modern technology both for their own entertainment and benefit, and to share their stories.
      My hat's off for you sir, or madame.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 22 дні тому +21

      I tell you what, as awful as poorhouses were, we're worse off without them.

    • @augustsmith9553
      @augustsmith9553 22 дні тому +16

      @@KairuHakubi yeah, I know. The stories are all negative and filled with abuse. But they had lives and community. Now the drug addicts roam the streets in gangs.

    • @augustsmith9553
      @augustsmith9553 22 дні тому +4

      God bless

    • @asinatrafanatic2697
      @asinatrafanatic2697 22 дні тому +5

      Sir, I say this in the most respectable way possible: You are, indeed, living history.

  • @bobbobbing4220
    @bobbobbing4220 17 днів тому +38

    "any kind of health issue can immediately push a family into poverty" are we still talking about the 18th century

  • @medicman65
    @medicman65 22 дні тому +707

    As one who works in a modern, inner-city, "poor-focused" hospital, I can verify that MUCH of what you describe still exists very strongly today. This video is a fascinating study.

    • @Mr.Patrick_Hung
      @Mr.Patrick_Hung 22 дні тому +22

      Here in China we used to be the poorest country in the world. There was a lot of poverty a generation ago. Today however, there is less poverty than in many Western countries.

    • @laciepyu255
      @laciepyu255 22 дні тому +59

      @@Mr.Patrick_Hung Mainly not absolute poverty, but relative poverty.

    • @Mr.Patrick_Hung
      @Mr.Patrick_Hung 22 дні тому +25

      @@laciepyu255 We certainly had absolute poverty decades ago. However today, although salaries are lower than in the West, the cost of living is also low. Outside of the first tier cities, the basics are inexpensive. Rent, rice and cabbage are cheap. Frozen imported American pre-made meals are ridiculously expensive.

    • @Odin31b
      @Odin31b 22 дні тому +4

      Details, please!

    • @stephenthomas1492
      @stephenthomas1492 22 дні тому +7

      Sadly they turn to crime as an occupation though. Pretty tough to blame them when cities refuse to convict or punish it.

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese3300 22 дні тому +330

    My grandmother's mom died when she had two daughters, the day after giving birth to the third. Her widower immediately SOLD them to a local orphanage and GAVE the newborn to another family. My grandmother had a reputation for being a bit hard, but did she ever come by it. The orphanage sold the children's labor to local farms and abused the children when they weren't working. I can't even imagine what their childhood must have been like -- no kindness, no tenderness at all. They didn't reconnect with their lost sister until they were adults.
    My dad once overheard a conversation between his mom and aunt when they were both in their 70s saying things like, "Look at us -- so many times we thought we'd die young and no one would ever know or care, and here we are two old women with grandchildren ... "

    • @DS-re4vs
      @DS-re4vs 22 дні тому +12

      🥺

    • @lilykatmoon4508
      @lilykatmoon4508 22 дні тому +10

      Wow. You come from survivors!

    • @FreedomJane-bx4um
      @FreedomJane-bx4um 22 дні тому +16

      It's the same with orphans now. Wards of the State are placed in receiving homes and group homes where private investors make a profit off of them. Boys go to farms and job corps, and girls go to foster homes where they are overwhelmingly domestic servants and nannies.

    • @Limbbiscuit
      @Limbbiscuit 22 дні тому

      Lmao 😂

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles 21 день тому +8

      @@FreedomJane-bx4um In what country? Social-Media World? The US has almost entirely gone to a government-funded foster care system instead. It gets, and deserves, plenty of criticism, but not for what you describe. The only orphanage left where I know people who grew up there is sponsored by a private trust and the kids I knew loved it compared to the troubled homes that they came from. They had healthy house-parents in multiple, large homes, went to the local public schools with homework help at home, had their own gardens, did raising and showing of their own sheep in 4H, hosted service projects for the community, and otherwise had as normal / healthy a kid's life as possible. There was no cost for most families (only if they were upper income and could contribute) and they refused government funding because of all the strings that came attached. They did fundraisers in the community once or twice a year to help make up what the trust couldn't fully fund. All that to say that there is some _excellent_ work done in this field, too.

  • @MapleHillMunitions
    @MapleHillMunitions 22 дні тому +250

    My fifth great grandfather was wounded in Monmouth, he came home to find one of his sons was bonded out, kidnapped his son back, and was charged with kidnapping. What a wild time.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods 22 дні тому +10

      He was charged with kidnapping ... are you saying he then went to prison ?
      Was he never vindicated ... please tell us the rest of this .

    • @MapleHillMunitions
      @MapleHillMunitions 22 дні тому +49

      @@gardensofthegods Charges were dismissed but he had to pay 50 dollars and keep the peace for 12 months. But do you want to hear about the time he made counterfeit money? Stole a hog ? Or the valley forge experience? 😂

    • @Gravuun
      @Gravuun 22 дні тому +1

      What happened to them then? Did they escape? Edit: Sorry didnt see you answered that already. Good on him!

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods 22 дні тому +8

      @@MapleHillMunitions $50 back then was probably equal to thousands .
      Yeah I'd like to hear about the counterfeit money and I know there was a lot of it especially by the time of the Civil War later on .
      Yeah I really want to hear about it and then after that you can tell me about the stolen hog .
      And since I'm from suburban Philly and we used to go sledding at Valley Forge and I love history yes I'd love to hear about it .. yeah all of it and I'm the one who was the little girl that always wanted to hear one more story and I love stories .
      Sometimes when people tell me their stories if they're really good and they have a knack with words I encourage them to get it copyrighted and get it published

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods 22 дні тому +7

      Also I'm sure your ancestors and those who passed down the stories would be glad that you're keeping them alive .
      It always bothers me when some people have no interest in knowing anything about the people who came before them and they don't even ask their parents or relatives about any of those stories

  • @dillonpoole382
    @dillonpoole382 22 дні тому +138

    Your editor does a great job with the subtle paralaxing of the stills - it elevates the production quite a bit

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 22 дні тому

      Paralaxing? Isn't that like shifting backgrounds in 2d video games?

    • @Vorpal_Wit
      @Vorpal_Wit 22 дні тому +11

      @@seronymus In general the parallax-effect is when, in a side-tracking field of view, or even in a stationary view with moving elements, those elements farther away appear to move more slowly than foreground elements. This is because the field of view is conical, and so things farther away need longer to cross that field of view than do things in the foreground, even if the elements are moving at the same speed across the field of view.
      This phenomena is used by our brains as a distance cue, which is why in 2d side-scrolling games they scroll the background by more slowly than the foreground, to give an artificial sense of depth to the picture plane. In videography it makes for a more pleasant viewing experience because it lends faux- 3d effect to a 2 dimensional image, giving the viewer a greater sense of the volume of space and the relationships between the objects in it.
      I hope that helps.

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 21 день тому

      If he has hired help, that’s great

  • @jimgrant4348
    @jimgrant4348 22 дні тому +323

    Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens is a great example of how Great Britain dealt with the poor children. The children were often sold from the poor house into indentured servitude.

    • @refrigeratormagnet1680
      @refrigeratormagnet1680 22 дні тому +39

      Was it moral? Often i hear people decry that kind of thing as always being immoral and defending it as unquestionably evil. I always wonder how it is more moral to watch your children die than to give them a chance at life. Our memories are so short.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods 22 дні тому +14

      My ancestor who came over to Philadelphia with William Penn came as an indentured servant but I had always imagined he had gotten himself into some kind of debt and I never could have thought that he , possibly as a child from poor parents could have been in this situation you're talking about ... I knew they were very cruel , even to children , my mother used to tell me this even though we love England and the English .

    • @_M_O_O_S_E
      @_M_O_O_S_E 22 дні тому +2

      Based

    • @benn454
      @benn454 22 дні тому +32

      @@refrigeratormagnet1680 The people looking down their noses from their high horses at people from the past are all coddled by modern society and have never experienced the kind of abject destitution and hardship that people back then were living in that drove them to such extremes.

    • @oneangrymelon
      @oneangrymelon 22 дні тому +33

      @@refrigeratormagnet1680 You have to think of it this way to answer your question: if the collective decision by the wealthy and powerful who run society is that some people will naturally end up in destitution- then is it moral to use your power to create only a single avenue to escape it? That avenue being one where children of poor families become the literal property of some of these wealthy people? Society does not "naturally" have people who can barely survive: the people at the top make conscious decisions about how to organize society that create this suffering.
      So yes, it is evil, because many policy decisions were made by the rulers, who are either the wealthy people, or those who are in the pockets of wealthy people.

  • @Gravuun
    @Gravuun 22 дні тому +104

    My family was displaced by WW2 and both sides of my grandparents had to beg and forage in the wild the first few years of their lifes to survive. This kind of destitution is not as far removed from the West as it seems nowadays. We should commend all our ancestors for their incredible fortitude and strength to make it through the worst of times, be it 80 years back or 200 years back or 1000 years back

    • @littlekong7685
      @littlekong7685 22 дні тому +11

      In rural communities in the 40's and 50's there were families working together to make thistle soup, or apple peel pies, or stealing blood and cow tails from the butchers for protein. Heck in the 70's there were still families that couldn't afford to put in plumbing while living in town. People wonder why seniors do things like save napkins and paper plates and accept food they don't need, it is because they grew up not knowing where food or clothing or materials might come from.

    • @danhillman4523
      @danhillman4523 22 дні тому

      Agreed.

  • @bunnyslippers191
    @bunnyslippers191 22 дні тому +40

    One of my ancestors came over after the Battle of Culloden as an indentured servant, worked his indenture, then kept working for his former master for wages. He saved up enough to send back to Scotland for one of his relatives, he can over, moved in with the first guy, found work, and they both started saving to send back for two more relatives. Rinse and repeat until the entire extended family was in New England and they started spreading down to Kentucky, then Illinois, where my mother was born on the old family farm.

    • @Magoover1
      @Magoover1 22 дні тому +1

      Scots in my family followed that path NE, Illinois, Kentucky.

    • @bunnyslippers191
      @bunnyslippers191 8 днів тому

      @@Magoover1 There were a number of Scots who started out in NE and followed that path to Illinois.

  • @ImmortalLemon
    @ImmortalLemon 22 дні тому +90

    You guys as well as Tasting History with Max Miller have taught me more about history than school has taught me

    • @rickv9180
      @rickv9180 16 днів тому +2

      Same

    • @terminallumbago6465
      @terminallumbago6465 15 днів тому +5

      What I love is that they teach the history of the everyday. It isn’t (always) high-ranking officials, major events, wars, etc. It’s teaching about how ordinary people got by day-to-day.

    • @roguenerd23
      @roguenerd23 11 днів тому

      @@terminallumbago6465 It really is great that they do that. To be fair, most school history teachers would love to teach on this level. The problem is first, getting kids to sit still for the instruction, and second, that the social studies teacher is usually expected to do a lot of the heavy lifting of teaching the kids thinking skills that allow them to make sense of historical fact- to ask themselves useful questions, draw conclusions from primary sources, and have enough of the basic facts that they can put interesting new facts into context.
      It makes for a lot of "boring work" that isn't nearly as entertaining to work your way through as a kid than just being taught cool lectures on specific things you happen to be interested in.

    • @terminallumbago6465
      @terminallumbago6465 10 днів тому

      @@roguenerd23 I think school in many ways is more about teaching kids HOW to learn and establishing soft skills rather than about any specific content.

  • @elizabeththequeen943
    @elizabeththequeen943 22 дні тому +55

    America was a nation of farmers well into the 19th century and there was always, always a need for farm labor. This type of labor was considered semi-skilled. From there, one could get a job in a small factory such as glass, brick and tile or pottery. It was the unskilled, very young, widowed or unwell people that ended up in the poor house and that is the reason why administrators didn't know what to do with them.

  • @kevinball892
    @kevinball892 22 дні тому +38

    I love your strong emphasis thought out your videos on understanding our ancestors. It’s so so important to not be so quick to pass judgement through a modern lens.

  • @ruariniall7463
    @ruariniall7463 21 день тому +4

    The Surgeon General of the United States is always an Admiral because he was originally the supervising Surgeon of the Marine Hospital Service, established in 1798. This was a manditory, single payer heathcare-insurance plan for those engaged in the maritime trades, the largest domestic industry of the time. This replaced a similar institution established by Queen Elizaberh I. It collected a small fee from those covered. From it sprang all other healthcare plans, including the VA, so that by 1904, it became the National Public Health Service while retaining it's distinct program. The MHS, one of the most successfull government programs ever enacted, was active until 1982, when Ronald Reagan abolished it as "socialism" for the benefit of the commercial insurance industry.

  • @magnusdanielsson2749
    @magnusdanielsson2749 20 днів тому +9

    Here in Sweden the government still in 1920 had a system for orphaned children to be offered to the ”lowest bidder”. The one who wanted the least amount of money for taking in the children got custody.
    This was called ”auction of the poor”..
    Of course these children were often more of less slaves.
    One child here in the north spent his first ten years being called ”the dog”. Had to live under the kitchen table and given scraps of food and the bottom scrape of the porridge.
    Eventually the postman realized what was being done and rescued the boy from that home.
    He grew up to become quite a succesful entreprenuer.
    My mom helped publish a book about his life.
    Doesnt seem so long ago. People really dont know how good things are today..

    • @burymeinjhenny918
      @burymeinjhenny918 6 днів тому +1

      What is the name of the book that got published?

  • @kiltedsasquatch3693
    @kiltedsasquatch3693 22 дні тому +9

    my mother grew up on a dairy farm during the depression. She always said they never had much money but always had plenty to eat.

  • @mickeymch876
    @mickeymch876 22 дні тому +111

    My grandmother used to make what we called 'dishwater soup'. Dishwater soup was a pot of water, one peeled potato, a peeled onion and one beet which was cooked on the coal stove. If I was lucky I got the potato.

    • @ouberfox5898
      @ouberfox5898 22 дні тому +12

      If i was lucky i got the potato... good greaf

    • @Strat0Patrick
      @Strat0Patrick 22 дні тому +7

      Boiled beet root actually pretty tasty as well (here in Ukraine it is one of main ingridients for many dishes)

    • @ravebiscuits8721
      @ravebiscuits8721 22 дні тому +6

      Is this for real? It sounds a little far-fetched. I mean she could have just cut the vegetables, it would make a much better stew even aside from fixing the odd fairness issue. And what year was this? I mean even if it was the 50s and you're a 80 year old UA-cam commenter you'd struggle to be so poor that you couldn't afford more than one potato.

    • @mickeymch876
      @mickeymch876 22 дні тому +14

      @@ravebiscuits8721 It''s real. I think grandma thought the depression never ended. She also would hit the thrift stores and flea markets for bargains. Once for a gift she gave my father 2 left shoes. She said "you'll walk a little funny but they were only $0.50".

    • @MikehMike01
      @MikehMike01 22 дні тому +4

      @@ravebiscuits8721 fairness = more food for the people who work to bring in income

  • @LoveShaysloco
    @LoveShaysloco 22 дні тому +26

    What I find funny back then in the time frame John does brown bread brown sugar/molasses was cheaper since less work was put into which is why white bread and white sugar was more expensive. Now a days it's the opposite white bread and white sugar is less expensive. Using now a days they make it strait to white sugar and add the molasses back in to make the grade of brown sugar they want. Back then the more the refined to white sugar then more you paid

    • @ranman5501
      @ranman5501 22 дні тому +1

      Brings to mind Laura Ingalls Wilder. Maple sugar was used for everyday use. White sugar was saved for company.

  • @almirria6753
    @almirria6753 22 дні тому +69

    I have someone on my Mom's side of our family, came to the US from Ireland as an indentured servant

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods 22 дні тому +5

      Yes same here my mother's ancestor who came over with William Penn was an indentured servant .

    • @virginia5
      @virginia5 22 дні тому +9

      My mother’s grandmother was an indentured servant. Her husband paid off her debt, married her. She was German.

    • @temptemp4174
      @temptemp4174 22 дні тому +2

      Sad that people look upon new migrants with as much hatred as they did all the way back then. I hope I never become one of those ivory tower twats, we were all once migrants in search of a betted life, it wasn't easy to get to where we are, the amount of racism the Irish experienced was insane

    • @yulfine1688
      @yulfine1688 7 днів тому +1

      i'd imagine many of us do, I have quite the english/welsh and irish background but my mothers side is all over europe and what little I do know of my fathers side is also european and mexican.

  • @macsarcule
    @macsarcule 22 дні тому +70

    Thank you Townsends team, a very important part of our history and our present.

  • @alexmcgregor2854
    @alexmcgregor2854 22 дні тому +19

    These videos are food for the soul… 😊

  • @MC-810
    @MC-810 22 дні тому +24

    Yes! My favorite Sunday morning activity at 0900 Eastern. A cup of coffee and Townsends latest drop.
    Edit: and when I hear the words Beggars & Feast together, I cannot help but think of Les Mis..the Thenardiers… (live not the movie!)

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 22 дні тому +1

      And Orthodox Palm Sunday 🌴☦️

  • @Nalimias
    @Nalimias 22 дні тому +3

    As the situation in the world gets worse and worse and my situation with it, your channel becomes more and more valuable to me EVERY DAY. I use so much of your recipes for the poor to survive. (central Europe btw)

  • @elainebradley8213
    @elainebradley8213 22 дні тому +7

    My grandfather was a Bernardo child and was sent from England to Canada as an indentured farm hand. In the orphanage in England he was well looked after and well educated but the family in Canada was not good to him and he ran away.

    • @erikdalna211
      @erikdalna211 22 дні тому +1

      Same thing happened to my great uncle. He hit the farmer on the back of the head with a shovel then rode the rails. He didn’t get back to Britain until the War when he was in uniform.

  • @themightylog2169
    @themightylog2169 21 день тому +3

    Always love your work, keep it up please.. these subjects are difficult for people to swallow but as someone that's spent a quarter of his life homeless in the modern age, it's easy to see how detached humanity has become from reality itself.
    These subjects remind me that not everyone lacks awareness and that these problems are far easier to surmount in the modern age compared to the 18th century.

  • @chrisdonovan8795
    @chrisdonovan8795 22 дні тому +55

    If you're alone, making minimum wage in America, you're just a step or two above an indentured servant.

    • @jimmysp4des229
      @jimmysp4des229 19 днів тому +19

      The only difference between now and then is climate control, clean running water, modern medicine, electricity on demand, the phone you use to make that comment that connects you to unlimited free information and entertainment.
      Just small stuff like that.

    • @SelwynCoy
      @SelwynCoy 17 днів тому

      @@jimmysp4des229 Access to all of that goes out the window if your rent gets jacked up and you get thrown out on the street. Or if you can't afford your internet bill, phone bill, or astronomical medical bills on top of the basic cost of food and shelter. The modern advancements are here, but just like in the 18th century not everybody gets to use them.

    • @PySnek
      @PySnek 17 днів тому +4

      since when does the US have clean running water? I thought that's more like an EU thing?

    • @No-yn7ry
      @No-yn7ry 15 днів тому +1

      @@PySnekit’s clean just the taste depends on state

    • @roguenerd23
      @roguenerd23 11 днів тому

      ​@@jimmysp4des229 The thing is, there are a bunch of countries where being poor isn't quite as much of a painful grind as it is in the US. And they all have air conditioners, running water, electricity, and smartphones, too. They even have modern medicine for the single minimum-wage worker, which said worker probably can't afford in the US.
      Our modern infrastructure isn't actually directly powered by suffering. The people who cause the poor to suffer don't get to pretend that it doesn't matter how the poor are doing, just because somebody invented smartphones and that automatically means everything is okay.

  • @MynewTennesseeHome
    @MynewTennesseeHome 22 дні тому +26

    My Grandmother was born in 1902 in IN. Not sure what was in place for the poor then but my Great-grandfather ran off and my Great grandmother had to farm out my Grandmother to help the family survive.

  • @PJ_Playz
    @PJ_Playz 15 днів тому +2

    This is my first time coming across this channel. I am going to check out some more videos. Thank you for so much information broadened around the idea of food. It really isn't something people really think about too much. I had no idea that was basically how hospitals formed here in the US. Kind of dark beginnings.

  • @Mike-qn7xy
    @Mike-qn7xy 22 дні тому +10

    Hello 👋 I'm a new subscriber from ontario canada and it was the same here but in history we learn about the American revolution here to and most of canada 🇨🇦 was still wild and we are taught alot about the voyagers fur traders/ explorer's thank you for everything 😀 😊

  • @user-di2zc3zo3k
    @user-di2zc3zo3k 21 день тому +8

    Being poor is subjective. I was raised with next to nothing. However everyone around us lived the same. Looking back we were poor but never poor of spirit.

  • @Goblin_deez.
    @Goblin_deez. 22 дні тому +4

    ‘Life was hard, people died young and were treated horribly, they lived a life of hard work, disease, crime and filth.
    Anyways here’s a great recipe for beef stew!’
    I jest but it is eye opening to consider that these were living people and I’m trying to understand it through modern eyes
    I’m glad to know that although poverty is still real, there is now a better degree of support and luxury that would make our predecessors smile.

  • @jamesgross4833
    @jamesgross4833 22 дні тому +3

    Kids at school should listen to your videos. Food is something everyone can understand, and it helps connect the mind to realities of the time. Never got that out of a text book.

  • @reverendparis7747
    @reverendparis7747 22 дні тому +2

    Insanely well said at the end. Amazing insight. Thanks for the video!

  • @taitano12
    @taitano12 22 дні тому +9

    Oh dear Lord, that brotn for breakfast thing takes me back. There were a couple of times my Grandpa Larson bought two thermoses to his compass adjusting Job. One had the coffee, the other had a nice hearty broth. He used to call it the Beggar's Breakfast. Now I know why. He was a Professor of Naval History in Bellingham Washington. I got my passion for history partly from him.
    Thanks for the memory. 😊

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 22 дні тому +4

    Thanks Jon and Crew 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌹

  • @majidskinnerkhan6960
    @majidskinnerkhan6960 22 дні тому +20

    There's still poor people in England, times are hard, poverty is in a different form now.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods 22 дні тому +2

      Yes just like here in America and it's terrible what has happened in this country with so many people

  • @robertpearson8798
    @robertpearson8798 21 день тому +2

    My Wife’s grandfather escaped from a workhouse in northern England and stowed away on a ship to Canada with a friend. He’d just turned fourteen and we found out that that was the age at which schooling stopped and physical labour began.

  • @joshmapes4311
    @joshmapes4311 22 дні тому +1

    Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for making this video.

  • @fiery_transition
    @fiery_transition 22 дні тому +97

    When the beggars feast looks better than what I eat normally.... Beef?!?! that stuff has become so expensive :(

    • @Nan-1017
      @Nan-1017 22 дні тому +5

      Beef, imho, is so good for you. It is a great healer. Try ground beef, it less expensive 😊

    • @toddmeier9743
      @toddmeier9743 22 дні тому +3

      I hear you there! Today, I can eat relatively cheaply if I stay away from expensive beef, salmon etc.

    • @user-eu4cr2ql8w
      @user-eu4cr2ql8w 22 дні тому +2

      You need to eat cheaper cuts

    • @Konarcoffee
      @Konarcoffee 22 дні тому +5

      @@Nan-1017 I've seen this before, let me head off the next very stupid suggestion. Cook the beef before you eat it

    • @LordKhuzdul
      @LordKhuzdul 22 дні тому +22

      ​@@user-eu4cr2ql8w IIRC that is one of the problems nowadays - cheap cuts often do not make it to the consumers. They are set aside for industrial processing, such as mechanical separation (to make sausages) for example.

  • @janedagger
    @janedagger 21 день тому +1

    Beaurifully done essay, sir. Again I'm so pleased with your behind the scenes work and your matter of fact and very humanitarian presentation... a stand out against so much that is out there. Kudoes, and thank you so much.

  • @goshnodo
    @goshnodo 22 дні тому +4

    Nothing like going to watch a show about beggars and poverty BUT FIRST ARBYS BRISKET MANWICH commercial!

  • @Blrtech77
    @Blrtech77 21 день тому +1

    Thanks for the great video. Jon Be Safe and Keep Up the Amazing Work!

  • @rivus3358
    @rivus3358 17 днів тому +1

    I really appreciate the cooking in these videos, but also the history lesson, which helps reminds me to be grateful for what I have today, which is quite helpful when I'm feeling down.

  • @ValkyrieTiara
    @ValkyrieTiara 22 дні тому +2

    The origin of hospitals and healthcare sounds like a great basis for future videos!

  • @sheilam4964
    @sheilam4964 22 дні тому

    Thx for doing this, filming it and sharing it with us.

  • @chelsuh614
    @chelsuh614 19 днів тому

    I think this is one of your best videos, or at the very least one of my favorites 🙇‍♀️

  • @MarkCratusMatzko
    @MarkCratusMatzko 22 дні тому +4

    I've never been this early for a Townsends video. Truly a morning blessing. God bless, Jon.

  • @dhevinfernando1431
    @dhevinfernando1431 22 дні тому +7

    I could keep watching these kinds of videos forever ngl

  • @QuasarSniffer
    @QuasarSniffer 22 дні тому +1

    I just really appreciate the focus you've been putting on lives of the poor in colonial America and the early United States. It's something that is rarely focused on, especially in historical reenactment. It's like our view of that time period is as long as you're not a slave, or have graduated from indentured servitude, you've accessed the middle class. That was not the case, so I very much appreciate this series of videos elucidating that topic.

  • @SaotomeLuna
    @SaotomeLuna 22 дні тому +24

    It is depressing how little has changed about how we treat the poor. At least we don't make them wear badges anymore...?

  • @max782_
    @max782_ 22 дні тому

    This type of video is my absolute favourite, thank you so much for uploading, love ur stuff :3

  • @ThomasMaldonadoJr
    @ThomasMaldonadoJr 22 дні тому +2

    This was beyond reflective. Stay gold.

  • @gtbkts
    @gtbkts 22 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the awesome content and great video!!

  • @homesteadcritters
    @homesteadcritters 10 днів тому +1

    I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @Robertssurvivalsystems
    @Robertssurvivalsystems 20 днів тому

    Another wonderful and well made video. I really enjoy your content and thank you for all the hard work you and your crew put into makeing them.

  • @kenc9236
    @kenc9236 22 дні тому +7

    "Please sir more soup."

  • @corporalvideo26
    @corporalvideo26 22 дні тому +2

    I always identify with the poor people you talk about. I'm not wealthy and live on my social security. I am so grateful that I am living now as opposed to the 18th century.

  • @gamingpro2216
    @gamingpro2216 22 дні тому +1

    I love the artwork that gets put into these videos. I know thats gotta be a lot of work to find

  • @JonnyThreePiece
    @JonnyThreePiece 19 днів тому

    Hey just bingeing some Townsends. I love your channel. Keep up the great content!!!❤

  • @jeannegreeneyes1319
    @jeannegreeneyes1319 22 дні тому

    Thank you for discussing this!

  • @corrinofnohr9927
    @corrinofnohr9927 22 дні тому +43

    Babe wake up, new Townsends just dropped

    • @buckgulick3968
      @buckgulick3968 22 дні тому +2

      Indeed! Between Townsends and Tasting History our weekly need for good culinary info is sated!

    • @lxlMrSatan
      @lxlMrSatan 22 дні тому +1

      Babe go to sleep, another unoriginal comment was made for hundred thousand time

  • @martykitson3442
    @martykitson3442 22 дні тому +4

    the poor you have with you always

  • @joshuaward5498
    @joshuaward5498 22 дні тому

    Great video. Equal parts history and cooking. Learned a lot. Keep up the great work!

  • @holidayarmadillo8653
    @holidayarmadillo8653 19 днів тому

    Love all the content this channel produces!!!

  • @yourbestpallshawn4139
    @yourbestpallshawn4139 7 днів тому +1

    You need more of these type of videos

  • @PaineStakingTruth
    @PaineStakingTruth 2 дні тому

    Thank you so much for the history and suggestion to learn from it to apply today!

  • @peterott-tn6pf
    @peterott-tn6pf 22 дні тому

    Great content Jon, like always!

  • @sststr
    @sststr 22 дні тому +6

    There's a channel on London History by J. Draper, she covers the entirety of London's history from its founding to present day, but she has a video dedicated to the life of servants in the Victorian era. Very insightful for those who want more on that very specific topic.

    • @JerryB507
      @JerryB507 22 дні тому

      One of the best Ye Olde English channels.

  • @Eltener123
    @Eltener123 22 дні тому +3

    I really love this series, it'd be awesome if in future vids we get to see more of the regional variations in what would make up such a feast even among equivalent class backgrounds

  • @anonomyss
    @anonomyss 21 день тому

    I love this series so much, I instantly lit up when I saw it pop up. What a way to start my Monday!

  • @BigIrishLug
    @BigIrishLug 22 дні тому

    Looking forward to doing this myself. Thank you for the information.

  • @JJW77
    @JJW77 22 дні тому

    Excellent research and storytelling!

  • @ZadiesLIVE
    @ZadiesLIVE 22 дні тому

    Townsends, This video is fantastic! I liked it a lot!

  • @rashkavar
    @rashkavar 22 дні тому +1

    Regarding the point about hospitals being poorhouses originally - it's worth noting that medicine didn't have a lot of the big equipment that needs a centralized care facility in those days. No heart rate monitors, oxygen tanks, let alone all the fancy diagnostic equipment. So a doctor coming out to your house could give you the best care they could possibly offer. If you were at that financial tier, you could hire someone to do the kind of monitoring that patients in hospital get today (again, minus the whole technology aspect). So if you were bedridden at home, you'd have doctors doing their best work, hired help dedicated to *your* care rather than caring for all the patients in your ward like at a hospital, and the same kind of food you'd eat normally (hospitals are *starting* to get past the terrible food thing, but that was a major problem with hospital stays for a long time, well after they started resembling more a modern medical facility than a 19th century house for the poor and sick.) All in all, you'd get better care at home than at hospital.

  • @lynnodonnell4764
    @lynnodonnell4764 22 дні тому +4

    But the Work Houses were a horrid place to end up in, right ?
    Didn't the Industrial Revolution create a horrendous amount of poor?

  • @cearachonaill8149
    @cearachonaill8149 22 дні тому +1

    Well done once again, Mr. Townsend.

  • @Kalie_Miller
    @Kalie_Miller 22 дні тому +8

    The fact they made you wear a badge if you happend to be one so misfortuned feels so surreal and is incredibly saddening, shaming those that already have nothing and then taking their dignity as well... I think it is really important that history like that is shared and not forgotten so that hopefully something like that will never happen again, though i still see it now even in a comfy first world country there are still many much less fortuned then others despite all the technological marvels we invented over the years, despite all the progress me made, it is sad and i wish it was different.

    • @Gonzokeywest45
      @Gonzokeywest45 22 дні тому +2

      Unfortunately it is happening, again. Tennessee first state to make camping or sleeping outdoors a FELONY

  • @diggingdwarf610
    @diggingdwarf610 11 днів тому +1

    i really love this channels feeling, it has a very homely warm style its nice to just have it on in the background but i of course love watching the videos 😃

    • @davestelling
      @davestelling 4 дні тому

      I find some much needed comfort here at Townsend's...

  • @johnnypgood100
    @johnnypgood100 22 дні тому +3

    Henry Knox's mother had 10 sons, only 4 of whom lived. Her husband deserted her when Henry was 9. The 2 older boys had already left to become sailors, so she took Henry, a promising student, out of school and apprenticed him to a bookseller. Henry taught himself many things by reading, and eventually opened his own bookstore in Boston. For him, it worked out, since he eventually became General of the artillery in the revolutionary war. But he also worked very hard his entire life.

  • @kamonwolfe5057
    @kamonwolfe5057 21 день тому

    Just want to say I appreciate your content, nothing else to add :)

  • @Zero_Reaper13
    @Zero_Reaper13 22 дні тому

    The plate up at the end looked great, that suet pudding looked so good.
    Not sure if you've done one before but I would be interested to see a video on a meal that was from foraged/hunted/fished ingredients only.

  • @justinhair6635
    @justinhair6635 9 днів тому +1

    Quite possibly my favorite channel on youtube.

  • @DeeDee-pw9pm
    @DeeDee-pw9pm 22 дні тому +22

    When you said "dirty jobs", i imagined Mike Rowe doing an 18th century 'Dirty Jobs' tv show.

    • @diamanteduul8084
      @diamanteduul8084 22 дні тому +4

      Goes to show how revolutionary that show was if its the definition of that phrase in our minds 😂

    • @nahte123
      @nahte123 22 дні тому +8

      That exists! Check out Worst Jobs in History with Tony Robinson.

    • @mabamabam
      @mabamabam 22 дні тому +4

      @@nahte123 Interesting. Because Mike Rowe is a theater kid trying to act like a tough guy laborer, whereas Tony Robinson is a theatre kid doing fun historical stuff.
      Worst jobs in history is great

  • @Firmus777
    @Firmus777 22 дні тому +21

    History of the work houses makes Foucault's connection of hospitals and prisons make more sense.

  • @simeongalda5988
    @simeongalda5988 20 днів тому

    I really like end of the video with UA-cam aspects, the composition is nice. Thumbs up video creators and postprocessing guys ❤ at least on phone, idk how it looks on PC

  • @amak1131
    @amak1131 16 днів тому +1

    It is amazing how much "poor" food is still a common thing to this day. I have several recipes from my great-grandma who grew up during the depression and they're mostly variations of beef/potatoes/flour. To me it was just a simple meal, it took until I was older to realize it was out of necessity.

  • @Sniperboy5551
    @Sniperboy5551 20 днів тому

    As a history and culinary nerd, I love this channel. Finding someone who has such a niche interest is rare, this is the only guy who can do it! Ever since I visited Sturbridge Village on a school field trip, I’ve been enamored with the way our ancestors used to live. It was a simpler time.

  • @Gastly_Ghost
    @Gastly_Ghost 18 днів тому

    Love this channel

  • @Mr_Toodles
    @Mr_Toodles 21 день тому +2

    Whats crazy to me is that all these dishes from old times that were considered "Poor people food" are nowadays, some of the best food that exists. You literally just made a crockpot roast with veggies. That is some of the best and most wholesome eating you can get these days.

  • @Xeonerable
    @Xeonerable 22 дні тому +3

    A severe illness can put someone into poverty you say..... why does that seem so familiar....

  • @RicardoSanchez-es5wl
    @RicardoSanchez-es5wl 22 дні тому +1

    This channel is incredible

  • @jerryziegner
    @jerryziegner 22 дні тому

    One of my favorite channels

  • @GaryLiseo
    @GaryLiseo 22 дні тому

    I love how you not only explain the foods people ate at different times and in different areas/roles of society, but also teach the history that goes along with it.

  • @louel9272
    @louel9272 22 дні тому +34

    Taken from The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood (set in the 12th century):
    "Why," quoth the Beggar, peeping into the mouths of his bags, "I find here a goodly piece of pigeon pie, wrapped in a cabbage leaf to hold the gravy. Here I behold a dainty streaked piece of brawn, and here a fair lump of white bread. Here I find four oaten cakes and a cold knuckle of ham. Ha! In sooth, 'tis strange; but here I behold six eggs that must have come by accident from some poultry yard hereabouts. They are raw, but roasted upon the coals and spread with a piece of butter that I see-"

    • @Alacritous
      @Alacritous 22 дні тому +7

      That's fiction. And the beggar was a bandit. Most of that, if not all, would have been stolen.

    • @chrisdonovan8795
      @chrisdonovan8795 22 дні тому +11

      @@Alacritous I'm currently listening to it on Audible. You are correct. Robin was looking to trade clothes with a beggar and he found a very successful bandit instead.

  • @FruitMuff1n
    @FruitMuff1n 22 дні тому

    Love these "poverty series" videos, so fascinating. As you said, they are talked about very little!

  • @haleighl2807
    @haleighl2807 22 дні тому +7

    The world today is built on the bones of those who suffered. I have what I have for them. So many who died, destitute in squalor, surrounded by other humans but no help in sight. They must have seen their reality, no one cares for them and no one will miss them. I may not know your name, but I do care. I thank my ancestors for every day I see.

  • @_faultee_
    @_faultee_ 22 дні тому +3

    Dont forget its way hotter here than it is on the UK and West Europe/Central. NJ/NY Gets so humid and hot, aint called meadowlands for no reason its all swamp.

  • @coyote7521
    @coyote7521 22 дні тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @GigaBoost
    @GigaBoost 22 дні тому +1

    Glad to hear that health issues were driving people to poverty in the 1800s, too. Keeping our traditions alive ❤🇺🇸

  • @papabearpaw5866
    @papabearpaw5866 14 днів тому

    It's funny, that's the exact supper I had tonight.
    As always, great video.