Rudolf Steiner: A Journey into Anthroposophy
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Academic overview of anthroposophical concepts? What did Rudolph Steiner believe? What is Anthroposophy? Anthroposophy explained.
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Clemen, C. 1924. Anthroposophy. The Journal of Religion. 4(3), pp.281-292.
00:00 Introduction: Steiner founder of Anthoposophy
01:00 Dr Puca introduces herself
01:10 What is Anthroposophy
03:01 Relationship to Theosophy
03:55 Body, soul and spirit
08:17 Akashic-records
09:01 Sevenfold man
11:26 The afterlife
13:38 Two Jesuses theory
15:48 The Lord’s Prayer
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You are so beautiful !! Love those colors on you
I'm a 9th grader who goes in a Waldorf/Steiner high school.
I have been going in Waldorf school since first grade and my desire of knowledge about anthroposophy is very big. I know most people my age hate school, but I love it. thanks for the precious information. Looking forward to live my life at best thanks to knowledge. great video
I come from a small city in Italy where Biodynamic farming and wine making is huge and the positive results of such methods are definitely there in plane sight.
Thanks for sharing!
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no they aren't
@@thorw4ld what do you mean they are not??
I am a huge Steiner fan as well as many other authors. Steiner resonates the most with me of any author from the occult world. My experience with the Anthroposophical Society was not a good one but it does not change my read of Steiner (they are very cultish yes but the experience is similar to most churches who come together for other reasons than knowledge and understanding). Steiner is susceptible to a lot of mis-readings/mis-interpretations if you only read a few of his works. I have to admit I read something deeper each time I re-read Steiner especially after reading other Occult works. Steiner is one piece to the puzzle however he is a very big piece in my opinion. Thank you for doing this video Angela!
Yeah unfortunately the modern anthroposophical movement treats steiner’s ideas as dogma, which is completely antithetical to the principles of his work. Steiner encourages us to drop all presuppositions, and to only accept his more mystical and specific teachings as fact once we have been able to verify them through our own spiritual research and experience. They are guidelines, reports of his own findings that are meant to inform yours. They are not to be blindly accepted and clung to, but rather taken as impetus to expand our own consciousness in a safe, healthy, and productive way
Share more on why you were disillusioned with the Anthroposophical society. Thank you for sharing!
I think you explained it all in your comment. It seems to me that steiners studies were specialized and focused in on specific areas. Anthroposophy attempts to explain other aspects with the room left for other outside opinions, allowing them to seep in that don't have anything to do with his points
Dr Robert Gilbert of the Vesica Institute seems to have taken Steiner’s concepts and really opened them up to people without a “society” involved
I recently discovered Steiner, I am very fascinated with all he explains and it resonates a lot with my soul, I love it.
I still cannot understand the Jesus blood thing thou.
I look for videos about it and podcasts but I don't get it.
So theorically the blood of Jesus touching the grown, opened a portal to awaken the human heart.
Why would we need a human sacrifice with horrible torture , to open the heart?
That is what I don't understand.
I know that the blood of an enlightened being can have a very high vibration and maybe cointain divine DNA, which maybe could open a portal, but was it necessary to do that through a horrible violent sacrifice?
I clearly feel and believe Jesus opened a portal, but I used to feel when christians say " I cover myself with the blood of Jesus" it sounded very messed up 😅
How can I understand better this mystery of the blood of Jesus or his terrible torture being necesary for humanity?
His contributions to the modern world are many. I started reading Steiner at 16, and it took me years to understand and accept some of his ideas, others not so much.
which would you say are the most valuable to study?
@@Julian-sy3qf He has such a wide array of contributions that it depends upon your interest. Remember kindergarten? He invented it with an entire curriculum for early childhood education the Waldorf system. He worked with Homeopathic physicians to create anthroposophic medicine. The founding of biodynamic agriculture. One of the first methods of modern organic farming. His paintings and drawings influenced modern art. His Geotheanum buildings influenced architecture. All this is on top of his contributions to philosophy, theosophy, and on it goes. Take the rabbit hole, you will not be disappointed.
@@Julian-sy3qf I assume your interest is magic. If so don't F around get Initian into Hermetics by F Bardon if you haven't already. Steiner is the publisher's recommended after study. Although Rawn Clark's current work would be my recommendation.
Just found you through the network of Esoterica, Religion For Breakfast, Seekers of Unity, Let's Talk Religion and The Modern Heremeticism. It's such a lovely breath of fresh air to find a thriving community of spiritually inclined UA-camrs who aren't insane and approach the subject with the academic rigor it deserves. Thanks for your quality and much needed work
P.S: just thought of this now but as someone with migraines that include visual migraine aura which I can't believe I never put together literally has the word aura in it and could very well explain why some people can see auras and some can't: gotta have migraines!
Superb episode. Thank you Dr. Puca 🙏🏼
thank you, Zevi!
Thank you for this! I resonate strongly with Steiner and Anthroposophy!
You're so welcome!
Same actually, what do you study miss Passavant?
@@Saint_nobody Aside from Anthroposophy, my interests are pretty broad.
@@JenP2776 it's hard to find people to discuss him with. Such a magical journey to go through his many many volumes of work. I hope your journey has been as blessed as mine and thank you for taking on the responsibility of bringing this movement foreword.
@Angela Symposium. Your interests being broad, to me, shows up in the limitation of diligent study of detail, Angela.
Does your interest, and performance, fit in the entertainment industry, or does it focus on "owning" your chosen subjects?
There's a word in German: "Spielerei" which is close to "playtime". Is that your pastime? Do you learn, and grow, for your own life journey, within your youtuber role? Or is it pure entertainment?
Steiner never wanted people to fill themselves with all of his understandings.The last thing he said he wanted was to have a group of 'Steinerites' in the world. He gave instructions on how to meditate and he gave many lectures on what he found in his meditations. He didn't claim you had to believe any of it, search for yourself. He believed each must go their own way, not turn into encyclopedists of Steiner quotes. I've seen a number of comments that Steiner was a racist, I don't agree with that. He did believe in the evolution of consciousness and each group would move the human forward in history. But that doesn't mean a black man growing up in Europe wouldn't be just as intellectually capable as a white person in that society. He had many warnings about the rise of the industrial age, the imbalance of soul and technology, the separative ego and its damaging effect on Earth. We shouldn't be so willing to condemn on superficial knowledge and a few quotes found online. Steiner is not easy going. His style is a bit archaic and a person can easily feel lost in an ocean of strange concepts and words. You could start with contemporary writers who have taken Steiner into the modern era like Dennis Klocek 'The Seer's Handbook', Christopher Bamford's 'Start here', or Robert Sardello's 'Silence' or 'Heartfulness'. I moved away and came back to Steiner work for many years, it can seem outrageously exotic to many people. I suggest you use what you can... focusing, concentration, reverence, imagination, are the main components of growth in this work.. There are artists who revere Steiner who have very little understanding of Anthroposophical medicine, Anthroposophic doctors who know very little of Steiner's philosophy, biodynamic farmers who are happy to use what they can to grow healthy food and nourish living soil. Steiner gave the world a great deal, take what you can that fits best for your own needs.
Hi Angela! I am watching it right now. I am enjoying it so far, as always. 😊🙏 Thank you! I love that you mentioned Waldorf education! I have purchased a few more of his books recently. The heavy Christian influence in his work sometimes gets to me, but the fact that his understanding of it is entirely esoteric helps. It also pushes me to work through my own biases. He was a wonderful human (like you), and a great author. 🙏😊 Thankyou again! ❤
Beautiful work as always, Doctor!! I've done some reading and listening to his material. Definitely a major force in creating a modern spiritual movement.
Too cool my dude!
I've never really looked into Steiner much, but have been meaning to get around to him. Cheers!
great
I'm also a philosophy and religion PhD and scholar of Jung, Steiner, and Western Esotericism. Well done on this video and explaining for others Steiner's great contribution to humankind. Love your videos :)
What school allows for PhD work in this area? I’m interested
@@jasonb4321 I forgot to mention the program I'm in - it's the PhD in Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness.
As a phd, you should be careful what you put in public, isn't that important for someone who will represent the academic community tomorrow?
@@sapecina1 Not sure what you mean by your comment. As a PhD, what I put out in public is my research - which isn't a secret. You can search thousands of dissertations online, read people's research, and openly access and discuss various programs at any graduate institution. I don't subscribe to the idea of keeping knowledge in the ivory tower, and in fact, I feel the complete opposite. I didn't spend YEARS and TONS of money to keep what I've learned and created all to myself, accessible to only a small few who are part of the school....
@@ashleysohl I meant this:
I'm also a philosophy and religion PhD and scholar of Jung, Steiner, and Western Esotericism.
I forgot to mention the program I'm in - it's the PhD in Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness.
As a PhD, you are expected to provide clear and accurate information. Best Zak
I appreciate your content. Fascinating stuff, inspiring me to look deeper
Awesome, thank you!
Great video!
The concept of biodynamic agriculture is very interesting. (There’s a cafe in London that sells biodynamic coffee…and it’s the best for sure)
It’s been a honor and blessing to come across Rudolf Steiner and his passionate research. He will find you when you are ready from the Collective Unconscious.
I recently discovered Steiner, I am very fascinated with all he explains and it resonates a lot with my soul, I love it.
I still cannot understand the Jesus blood thing thou.
I look for videos about it and podcasts but I don't get it.
So theorically the blood of Jesus touching the grown, opened a portal to awaken the human heart.
Why would we need a human sacrifice with horrible torture , to open the heart?
That is what I don't understand.
I know that the blood of an enlightened being can have a very high vibration and maybe cointain divine DNA, which maybe could open a portal, but was it necessary to do that through a horrible violent sacrifice?
I clearly feel and believe Jesus opened a portal, but I used to feel when christians say " I cover myself with the blood of Jesus" it sounded very messed up 😅
How can I understand better this mystery of the blood of Jesus or his terrible torture being necesary for humanity?
I actually found someone talking about Rudolph Steiner! 💙
Very interesting - I'd only known of the overlap between anthroposophy and the volkisch movements that spawned nazism later on, so this was informative: there was much more to Steiner's ideas.
There was alot of enlightening things coming from steiner, like Waldorf education, for example.
Isn't it interesting that there are those who believe that Jordan Peterson is the reincarnation of Rudolf Steiner.
And that Steiner, in his lifetime was accused of nazism as much as Peterson is in his lifetime now?
The tendency to wipe evolutionary progress off the table is far more out in the open, nowadays.
It's the oldgame of "divide and conquer".
I really like him. He explains all the areas really deeply and gives a very good perspective of al including economy agriculture etc. Maybe if we followed him societu would really improve
Several people in the comments saying "Rudolf Steiner believes that..." / "Antroposophy says that..." when in fact they are just reproducing what critics who have never studied astrosophy deeply said. This is a problem that every area of knowledge, whether scientific or esoteric, suffers from. Anyone who wants to understand something complex needs to invest a lot of study time to first understand a given epistemology and only then adhere to it or criticize it.
Yes. And Steiner is not the type of content one can understand purely through intellect. Like the Bible and other religious texts that contain truths, is works upon the reader of a period of days, weeks, months or even years.
100% agree
@@Steiner_Student I recently discovered Steiner, I am very fascinated with all he explains and it resonates a lot with my soul, I love it.
I still cannot understand the Jesus blood thing thou.
I look for videos about it and podcasts but I don't get it.
So theorically the blood of Jesus touching the grown, opened a portal to awaken the human heart.
Why would we need a human sacrifice with horrible torture , to open the heart?
That is what I don't understand.
I know that the blood of an enlightened being can have a very high vibration and maybe cointain divine DNA, which maybe could open a portal, but was it necessary to do that through a horrible violent sacrifice?
I clearly feel and believe Jesus opened a portal, but I used to feel when christians say " I cover myself with the blood of Jesus" it sounded very messed up 😅
How can I understand better this mystery of the blood of Jesus or his terrible torture being necesary for humanity?
Yes gossip is horrible!!! I heard gossip that Steiner was racist and now everytime I go to learn about him that gossip suggestion is still in my mind.... even though I don't sumbit to it or judge him, gossip sticks in the mind.
@@Ashes2ashes1111 he wasn't racist he was just to the left of the far right when it comes to zionism and such, he argued that jews should evolve from traditional values and integrate in the nations they resided, he was a proto progressive
Thank you for your overview of anthroposophy. You have done a nice job of outlining some of Steiner's key beliefs. However you have neglected to mention some of his less savory more problematic beliefs. Stiner believed that skin color was associated with a person's past karmic actions and believed that white skin was an indication of a higher level of enlightenment. He also viewd disability in a similar way.
He also thought less of non Anthrophosophists and believed that it was morally acceptable to hide the anthroposophic ideas that which directed Waldorf education. Thus denying parents informed consent when enrolling children in Waldorf schools. He also believed that the parents were dangerous to the children as they exposed them to modern technology and ideas that were harmful to their spiritual development. And he believed that children chose their teachers in the pre-existence, therefore he believed it was acceptable for teachers to supplant the role of parents.
All of these ideas are alive and well in. Waldorf education and other anthroposophic institutions. Many reguard anthroposophy as a cult, including the French government which has listed is as a sectarian group.
While I appreciate your overview of Stiner, I do think it is important to discuss the more negative aspects of a person's ideas in addition to the more positive or interesting parts.
yes, you're right. These controversial political aspects are important to acknowledge. I left them out because they were not mentioned in my sources and because I'm more focused of the history of esoteric ideas and practices that their political implications/consequences/subtexts. I think that would be a whole different area of analysis, albeit interesting and worth studying.
I shared a similar post above. Thanks for also speaking to this.
@@drangelapuca I don't think that the history of esoteric thought is apolitical, and while I understand that your aim is to understand the evolution of theology I would argue that this evolution does not take place in a vacuum, but is instead situated in the historical moment which it sprung forth from. I'm not suggesting that you do extensive research into these contexts so much as I'm suggesting that it is better to mention the controversy rather than avoid it, and simply say something about what the problems are, but they are not the point of your talk. People undoubtedly use your channel to navigate their own spiritual path, so I think it is better, when you are able, to mention things that are likely to cause some practitioners harm. Of course it is ultimately up to all of us to do our research, but it is also better form to be transparent.
That being said, I'm not surprised that this information was absent from your sources as anthroposophists have tried very hard to obscure these problems. My comment is far more about correcting this issue, than it is about correcting you. I do appreciate your channel, and I'm sure it is a lot of work to research all of these various branches of the esoteric spirituality.
@@drangelapuca this feels sort of like a cop out reply
She said enough for me to read between the lines that he had illiberal beliefs, to say the least. And his whole system as a whole is more complex than I knew. Thanks Dr. Puca!
Excellent presentation!
Thank you kindly!
Just subscribed to the page. Love it so far.
Awesome! Thank you!
just found your video ,this is crazy cool :) just stumbled into your channel..wow :)
Let’s learn ….. very much love to listen to Dr Rudolf Steiner….what he thinks and the way he is bringing and giving …specially in the education and pedagogy ……🌞
This was so helpful thank you
Thank you for this! You did as well as humanly possible trying to boil his work down in less than 20 minutes. I do need to add a warning to his work.
I wouldn’t have expected for you to speak about this here. There is epic denial around this. Rudolph Steiner was my gateway into esoteric and occult study out of severe fundamentalist Christianity, for this I couldn’t be more grateful….. however there is massive white supremacy issues throughout the work.
He believes that all the eastern practices were actually about Christ and are more rudimentary than his own beliefs and that this evolution reaches its apex in white skin and Christianity. That rosey pink color he speaks of being the correct color has to do with his beliefs around the white Aryan race coming into his ideas of evolution. Basically ‘if you haven’t had a white incarnation yet, don’t worry you will as you evolve’ kinda thing.
So just heads up. If one studies his work keep this in mind.
It is not in anyway ok to see other religions as rudimentary steps on an evolutionary path to your own, or other ethnicities as lower until they reach their white skinned body.
The anthroposophical press does things to cover this up. They didn’t translate the more overtly racist text into English. I fortunately found people that read him in German who pointed this out.
I am not saying that he doesn’t have amazing insights within his work, but if one reads it without understanding that it is from a white supremacist way of thinking it is dangerous to take it in and to share it.
I would be interested in any citations you might have to support your most erudite point. You're not referring to the White Brotherhood?
@@LeeGee I work a lot, today I am exhausted and I would have to go through my references… I will try to get you the info in the next few days. I even took sections of his German writing and put it through translation. They aren’t kinda bad, they are terrible. There is one where he said (white) pregnant women shouldn’t read black authors work…. Or that is the general gist. He doesn’t want to get into the baby. It was partially heart breaking. I had studied him along time.
I will make entire videos out of it in the future. It is also apparent in his over arching themes. Which took me way to long to notice. He thinks other ethnicities deities are incarnations of Christ. He subsumes other religions and spiritualities.
@@LeeGee Look up an article called…
Race and Redemption: Racial and Ethnic Evolution in Rudolf Steiner’s Anthroposophy
By: Peter Staudenmaier
There are direct translated quotes in the article, many of them. I found several of the passages shared in the article in the German translation online and had a German friend confirm that it was accurate.
@@TheBookofBeasts Just took a peek at that Staudenmaier paper you suggested, and, well...
HOOOOOOOOOOLEEEEEEE, that paper is just chock full of examples of racial superiority in Steiner's own words. Yikes! I've been loving Steiner's takes on the astral & etheric planes & etc, -so evocative... but my filthy maw is agape at finding these ideas in the man's own words. In the process of processing...Thank you for sharing that paper.
@@francinebacone1455 Unfortunately crossing that threshold into clairvoyant sight doesn’t cure anyone of their conceptual ills.
I learned a lot from him. There are things I can now do that I couldn’t do if I had not encountered his work. He was my bridge out of severe fundamentalist Christianity. But it isn’t a little bit awful it is epically bad.
The extra awful thing is that I can show this to Anthroposophist and they will refuse to acknowledge what they are seeing. For me…he was writing 100 years ago, white, hanging out in Germany, not sure how someone could be that shocked by him being a white supremacist.
Thank you for talking about Rudolf Steiner. Him talking about Lucifer and Ahriman can relate to Jung and others too. Andrei Tarkovsky actually was inspired by him too
Already read a few biographies on RS...can't get enough of your accent though 😋 great vid as always Doc! Have a great day!
Thanks! 😃
@@drangelapuca Noooooo THANK YOU! [Side note: Making a Lasagna this Friday...shall I save you a slice or two? A lil wine perhaps? 😋 🍷🍷🍷...Cheers!)
Very cool.
Angelaa always killin it
I really can’t take this anymore . I just recently discovered that I am clairvoyant. Does any one know how to shut it off?? 😭😭 I’m seriously losing it bc it just never stops . I always had this but not like this . Now it’s so much worse and it just never stops and I get no peace ever . Even when I sleep and I wake up it’s like it never ever turns off !!
The look in Dr. Puca's eyes as she mentioned the idea of the Astral body apearing at puberty and the etherial body when the second set of teeth come in struck me so funny. It's like she was thinking, "people believe this dippy shit?!" OMG I was practically on the floor laughing! Oh God, I love this youtube channel. Dr Puca is so great!
I didn't catch that hahha but statements like these are why I find it difficult to get into Steiner 😂
thank you!💫💫
good job
I once attended a Rudolph Steiner-'Waldorf' school. This was from the fall of 1970 to the winter of 1971. Judy Collins' kid sister, Holly Ann, was one of my classmates. At the time, Judy had a top 20 hit with her version of 'Amazing Grace'. Also, at the time, my late older brother was a touring musician, and as guitarist for The Buddy Miles Band had toured with Jimi Hendrix. It was also at that time that my brother met Herbie Worthington, who would later go on to be the principal photographer for Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks. Who also attended a Rudolf Steiner-'Waldorf' school was (drum roll, please): Mick Fleetwood!
So the correlation I learned from this is that rich kids attend Waldorf/Steiner schools. Lmao
@@reportedstolen3603 You impress me with your poorness between your ears. Thank you for sharing.
@@romanticandperky learn how to be grammatically correct before making such statements
@@reportedstolen3603 The poorness of my grammar is inspired by the poorness between your ears. I trust you're less stupider now for my having replied thus to you (smile)!
Robert Plant almost quit Led Zeppelin, after a death in the family, to become a Waldorf teacher. Of course his kids attended as well.
Steiner's teachings that "concepts" can be a sensory apparatus for perceiving the "Supersensory World", was heavily influenced by German Idealist Philosophy, including Kant, Fichte, Shelling, Hegel etc regarding "The Philosophy of Self", & I think it possible Einstein was influenced by this with his "Thought Experiments". Some of the peripheral stuff is of great interest to me, like that of George Adams, Olive Whicher, Theodor Schwenk, Guenther Wachsmuth & D.R. Milner & Ted Smart.
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! This is the video that was meant for me! Thank you SOOO much for helping me piece together my truth and my mission in life! Thank you for speaking his truth and gifting us this precious gem of knowledge. Everything that Steiner says is true! The key is in Gnostic philosophy!!
Very informative and helpful. I need to refute Steiner's false Christology for a friend, but only had a hazy idea of it.
Suggest Angela interview Gigi Young as she has studied Steiner quite extensively 😊 Be a great match-up
Thank you for giving attention to the monumental works of this man. I wish more could attempt to open their minds to his thought. A friend recently commented that there is just too much material, doesn't seem like a valid reason to not engage at all. I was curious if one has ever come across his concept of highest divinity. I just read his views on the elohim combining into a unity but didn't catch if he ever mentions anything above the 7 united elohim's consciousness.
The Elohim are the Spirits of Form, they're not God, the Hebrew word(plural, Hebrew words ending in -im are a plural) was translated in the Bible with God, and that'created confusion. They're part of the hierarchy of higher beings : Angels, Archangels, Archai, and above them : the : Exousiai = the Elohim. By giving the Earth a form they were united, and become one. Jehovah was one of the seven. There are still higher beings above the Elohim. Read 2 basic works of Steiner : Occult science and Theosophy (you'll find them free in R S Archive.)
@@wauterswilly9985 Thanks for your response. I would say now I have a deeper understanding of what he means here. I am just curious if there is anything in his writings where he has tried to explain the divine that appears above the chearbim and seraphim.. I have read a fair amount of Steiner's work but can't recall him attempting to put that into words other than stating that these things can't be apprehended than brought to articulation....
Above the highest hierarchy (Cherubim, Seraphim, Trones) you have The Trinity. Google : rudolf steiner the mystery of the trinity vol 214. Studying Steiner is indeed choosing the long and winding road. I reread it every 5 years and pray that I will understand it towards the end of my life. Peace to you, brother.
Cfr RS Archive
I'm so thrilled to have found your channel! Your voice is so beautiful, your style is absolutely magnificent and you're covering such interesting topics that I cannot wait to get more into. Thank you so much for sharing your studies and knowledge, it is invaluable to me and many others I'm sure. I also find your presentation very engaging! I so appreciate your time and efforts on your channel, it's such a gift 💜
Thank you so much!! That's lovely. 🥰
@@drangelapuca
rather luciferic aint it ..
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the presentation is correct .. i didnt hear i false .. ok .. very little
false logical things .. in the vid ..
what i feel from the vid .. is the respect towards the Doctor .. .
and why do u have to dress like a demon .. holy shiiiit ...
with that lipsticks ... with that ugly brick background holy shit ..
i sud put this way .. its pretty disrespective towards the Doctor ...
Steiner wrote interesting books,even one that ponders a fair "gouvernment".
He happens to be the only one i read several books of.He knew Helena,and Annie Besant as well.I did not know that..though i can imagine it as he's fits inbetween them.Nice clothes by the way.
Awesome dress and make-up!! Another interesting aspect in Steiner's teachings, is the model where Lucifer represents the ascending principle up towards the spiritual realms, while Ahriman represents the materialization/descending principle, while Jesus represents the balanced middle point constituted by two other principles balanced (Lucifer+Ahriman=Jesus). The fixation of the number seven strikes me somehow a bit suspect, even though it's probably as good as any other number. It is also worth mentioning that Steiner was a 33 degrees Freemason (I don't know what order).
@Luke JTM Do you know if Steiner ever explicitly associated Lucifer to the dynamo (the reproduction organ, the lowest chakra) and the sexual energies/Chi as Manly P. Hall did? Quote: ""When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands." (Manly P. Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, page 48). They were both members of the Theosophical Society, and they were both 33rd degree Masons.
Will you be doing more shows on Dr Steiner, his work is a favourite of mine.
I read Gary Lachman's biography of Rudolf Steiner a few years ago. He was originally a founder member of 'Blondie', and their original bass player. I showed up at one of their recording sessions (for a song called 'In The Flesh') many moons ago. At the time I was with someone who was a direct ascendant of 'Johnny Appleseed', who was an evangelist for the teachings of Emmanuel Swedenborg. I'm presently reading Mr. Lachman's book on Swedenborg. What does Angela's Symposium have to say about Swedenborg?
Oooh id be interested in that topic as well!!
I've only discovered the word Anthroposophy yesterday and you have delivered the most informational video ever! Thank you so much!
You're so welcome!
In both this video and your video on Theosophy..... I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed that you don't mention the implications (and historical consequences) of the Root Races Theory. No mention of the Thule Society? This is important political and social context for these occult ideas.
yes, you're right. These controversial political aspects are important to acknowledge. I left them out because they were not mentioned in my sources and because I'm more focused of the history of esoteric ideas and practices that their political implications/consequences/subtexts. I think that would be a whole different area of analysis, albeit interesting and worth studying.
I've read through transcripts that Rudolph Steiner did on various topics... Among the most interesting were talks he did about "Arhiman" as a Luciferic being. He also had very interesting lectures on bees which I found fascinating...
Actually he sees Lucifer and Arhimam as completely different opposing forces.
@Rosae Hermeticus You have to write me quite a sizable check for me to be willing to suffer through that.
This is so funny, this consept seems really familiar somehow
A curated copy of the transcript is now available to Patrons and at this link
www.innersymposium.study/?p=2191
He had a big split , good to read about. the reason he left is because theosophy is just a personality cult masquerading as an 'esoteric' religion.
esoteric religions are generally tribes that use the 'allure' of secret wisdom as a way to attract the kind of followers who will be extremely dedicated and not question ORDERS and MINDSET.
they are 'hard' cults in this sense.
Steiner was a great success and remembered because he wanted the best for all humans and tried to understand and respect the various cycles and types of existence. esoteric cults, generally do not, and are willing to 'order' the priorities of human beings for their own person members benefit, often for the true benefit of the 'leader' who is a personality cult leader at the top of the organization.
steiner's work never got finished. sadly, his followers made a personality cult leader out of him and did precisely the wrong thing.
this too, was a shortcoming of steiner's as he was unable to properly set up a system of communication and priorities for the average person ( his followers ) to carry on his mission.
Steiner's mission was not to aggrandize his name , but to work on the continuous project of human spirit. people make 'prophets' of these great leaders because people are weak and not creative and scared and also because sometimes this strategy is very helpful for passing on devotion to a way of life.
In new york city, steiner stil has a cult following him and not the spirit of ideas he transmitted well and with joy and dedication. We need people like this, but those who worship 'names' and 'prophets' often obstruct the progress of those newcomers who carry their spirit.
ironic no?
angela , i'd like to do a movie review with you of one of the best most spiritual movies ever made in the 1970s , the great age of creative cinema. it is a spanish language movie with subtitles. can we watch it on twitch and then breaks to comment and discuss, and then use the recording to edit/cut ( i'll help with that using final cut pro and make it something you like. , but i have to be part of the 'review' . it will be a review like 'mystery science theatre 2000' but not 'comedy' , rather 'spiritual talk'. let me know. look for me @kirshzeev on twitter or @zeevkirsh telegram or linkedin
Thank you for the wonderful and detailed explanation
When will you talk about Arabian magic
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imo Rudolf Steiner was half-mad but the half that was not was absolutely brilliant
The fact we are conscious on this plain and must connect to the greater consciousness of the Universe to decipher Blavatsky and Steiner should be noted as we move through Tantra.
Owen Barfield, a follower of Steiner, was a member of the Inklings. Both J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis regarded him as a close friend and major influence on their thinking--this, despite anthroposophy's obvious separation from orthodox Christianity.
What is your opinion of eurythmy as a performing art form and its relation to dance?
No relation to dance.
Regards, Euryrhmist 😊
My children go to Steiner school in new Zealand 😊
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This is very interesting! Nice job. However, I always thought as a boy I was made up of "slugs, and snales, and puppy dog tails". 🤣🤣🤣 seriously. I like the video.
So im thinking About homeschooling or the “free school” based on antroposophy.. i dont know what to do i just want to be able to give my young boys the best start as humans not as digits ❤
The 2 Jesus Theory is very interesting. I have suspected, for a while, that "Jesus rising from the grave" may have been a divine version of a Copperfield magic trick, in that Jesus may have had a "Twin" brother, and they may have played the "long con" for lack of a better term.
(I must point out that my hypothesis was made a long time ago, before I went down the road of the learning of Esoterica and Hermetics/Occult. I must also point out that I use the term "magic" and "long con" strictly as a descriptive of the events, and in no way place any motive towards what Jesus may have been trying to engender in his fellow Man.)
For more information contact Tibetan Buddhism specifically The Six Yogas of Naropa by Lama Glen Mullin
Rudolph Steiner was/is a pretty major influence upon modern occultism but probably a bit less of an influence than Madame Blavatsky.
His work is influential in the REAL world, where people actually DO stuff (Waldorf Education, Bio Dynamic Farming, Anthroposophical Medicine, etc.) that matters, and has a real IMPACT on the world.
You are not so accurate in many of your claims:
the planetary evolutions are alot more comprehensive, with various phases of Consciousness at each stage: part of the sentient soul is involved in reality just as much as the intellectual soul but this also depends what you call reality: As Spirit would be considered so, lastly this epoch is know as the Angleo-German epoch, Stiener didn't give creative interpretation, rather he mastered Esoteric research in a scientific sense, the use of Science is missed here entirely for the approach given through the foundational books is a SCIENCE inspired by a Goethean approach, whose science is then used in the akashic records to verify claims, the Philosophy of Spiritual activity depicts his method in its Essence, you simply picked the Fruits but told us near to nothing about the Tree or the ground upon which it stands, I write this out of care for you and your path, that before one speaks to the public about these things one has to know one's stuff, this is not Chaos Magik rather it is the opposite and far more than a system is given through Anthroposophy
There are many points I agree and disagree with in Steiner's anthroposophy. However, I have been heavily influenced by another Theosophy 'apostate'. His name is Harold W Percival, and his magnum opus 'Thinking and Destiny' has become my bible on everything esoteric over the years.
I once accidentally insulted someone at the London Steiner Institute. I was on the bus as it passed, and noticed a bookshop. Having nothing else to do, I got off at the next stop and retraced my steps, finding myself at said institute. The bookshop, it turns out, wasn’t open, but when I went into the adjacent building to ask what sort of stock they had, a very enthusiastic man bounded over to me and started enquiring about if I was interested in Steiner’s works. I wasn’t aware of Steiner outside of hearing his name, so I replied “not really?”. The guy then said “well, something clearly bought you here!”, in retrospect I see trying to prompt some sort of realisation. Of course, that didn’t land at the time and I sarcastically replied “yeah, the bus”. He looked rather deflated at this response. My apologies, random man from the London institute!
I then went to do my own research on Steiner, and found out he believed in a hierarchy of races, “Ubermensch” theory and was vehemently anti-vaxx, something that continues to cause misery in Waldorf Schools to this day. Needless to say, I never went back to that bookshop.
thanks for sharing
Yup it's a cult. Glad you avoided getting involved. Unfortunately I wasn't so lucky, as I was sent to a Waldorf school and suffered serious psychological damage from the experience.
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Steiner is neither of those things, you would have to read quite a lot of his work to understand his positions on those subjects and they couldn't be summer up simply but he was neither racist or anti vax. He said so much on these subjects it would be easy to get him out of context.
You are clearly a dabbler
Interesting video, thank you. I was expecting some mention of his pseudoscience teachings however.
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Interested, but I get a little confused with the terminology.
fun fact: my breakfast cereal was made by anthroposophists
Love the work of Steiner and blavatsky. Very deep material
How do you feel Rudolf Steiner compares with Alan Watts?
Has anyone gone to a Stiener school, if so what was your experience with it good or bad or meh?
Awful. I have learning disabilities. The erthymy teacher befriended me and tried to cure me. Then she invited me to her house for dinner and got in bed with me. It took me years to fully understand all the grooming that went on. Do not send your kids here they are not honest about their beliefs and they do not have good boundaries. They also believe that kids are working through their karma when they bully other children and choose not to interfere. I was bullied constantly by classmates and no one did anything.
I sent my children to a Waldorf school. It was very good.
It can be extremely, extremely good, loving, inspiring, heart-opening, etc.
On the flipside, it can also be kinda rough, and it's true about teachers believing that kids that are being bullied is having their karma worked out.
It seems to me there can definetely be a shadow-side (for lack of a better word) to Waldorf Education. If the people enacting it are cold-hearted bastards, then the results are not good.
I have experienced both scenarios. about 80 % of the good stuff, and 20 % of the bad stuff (rough estimate), in different schools.
Edit: and it's true about (*SOME, not all) (far from it) *teachers believing that kids that are being bullied is having their karma worked out.
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Steiner was an interesting character. One moment he surprises you by getting some things so right and being ahead of his time, the next you come across something unbelievably naive and ignorant for a man who lived only 100 years ago.
Still, with all the shortcomings (e.g.philosopher he was not) and all the pseudoscience, he was at least empirically minded. Something which cannot be said about most of these occultists, including Anthroposophy after he died.
I love hearing about Steiner from a cool Italian goth chick that happens to have a degree in Witchcraft ❤️
There's an evolution of the idea that all life have souls, to the Theosophical/Anthroposophical teachings that only humans have souls, to Gudjieff's only some rare humans have souls, but the others can make one.
we don't die we adapt to the new reality.
Angela I like your energy and your magick of science academia Apollo.. but I miss your Dionysus, your woman light of Moon darkness, your 'wild', speculative and dareful Occult knowledge and hunch 🧞♀
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Rudolf Steiner wrote 50 books and gave 6000 lectures he was a polymath
To study his work is a huge task
Other dimensions perceived are the 6th and more senses.
We are making a biopic about Steiner. . Our music is on our site. Any anthropops in the film industry please get in touch.
Sounds like modern Hinduism as well
The aura is a vibration
I wonder what will happen if we sit in a silent room and just looked at each other
I had Steineritis for awhile when I was much younger. Eventually I came to the conclusion that what was good in Steiner wasn't new, and what was new in Steiner wasn't very good. lol.
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7th Son of A 7th Son would be extra special numerical One. Two short(Too Short) of the 9 Enneagram, Steiner made his own hierarchal systemology short hand . Not sure which 2(8,9) are merged into the smaller cohort of potentialities.
People who are more interested in exposure of a subject's political controversial aspects should respect the channel owner's choice of topic. It's as easy to understand- everytime when you are giving or listening to a sermon from bible, you don't expect the priest to also mention the bloodshed history of the entire christianity around the world...or when you are giving lecture on the communism as a form of government, you are not necessarily supposed to explain the massacre, violence, butchery and suppression of people that followed through the actual communist regimes....so respect the choice of topic and stick to it while listening in a limited minute of video 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
My mates granddad is Top dude in this and has published books...smoked many a J with him and I have started to agree...Also bada Bing!.
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thank you!
Phd means you're versed in other peoples opinions :) to some of us that's like bragging you don't think for yourself and paid others to give you their ideas.
Didnt you paraphrase that comment from somewhere?
@@badwerds no i have created defenses such as when people tell me to read a book i'll state "books are just over peoples Opinions" The base paradigms of language alone is an agreed on one between humans who are programmed in that language.
There will be billions of dialects sounds words symbols to be discovered still I don't personally like passing opinions of others off as my own but i will agree with some peoples work if it resonates with me,
my theories on Quantum immortality and never suffering death has rules too. paradigms tend to be in flux till they are shared and distilled in to something that can be understood by the laymen like the world being A globe. the Stars being balls of gas.
then there is knowledge that people don't know about like how the body develops in the womb why it takes 9 months what the moon does every 60 hours why astrology is important to ALL life on the planet why is the planet 75% water like why are you 75% water. then you get in to hermetics and understand rules of reality and Finally you're at the point you don't need other people to explain things because they are so obvious.
i actually get asked if i paraphrase often because i think with some people they can't accept a Nobody's opinion as REALLY GOOD.
it's an ego thing too i guess especially when talking to Academics who are no genius but can just remember really good.
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Just my luck, I am a hour late. Hope y'all had a good day.
You too!
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Thank you YT algorithm for this wonderful video and channel. I forgive you for telling me that you're SkyNet from Terminator, "But more advanced" and for telling me that "We at the Church of Google, are the closest thing to God, that mankind has ever interacted with." (True story) I forgive you Goggles, for effecting the way in which I see the world. Ok then, that will be all.
Ps, does anyone think that this beautiful women is into American men with a bad attitude and constant sarcasm? That would be fantastic, regular Sheeple women scoff at me when I tell them this stuff.
Ok then, that will be all, take 2. Over and out
The man comes over as deeply disturbed, especially with his ideas regarding race, animals and the whole merging Jesus thing. I had a classmate who grew up with anthroposophy and her ideas of how the world supposedly was made it very hard for me not to burst out chuckling. It is a wonder to me how people still follow this. Either you believe in the whole of his ideas or not at all, cherry picking only the socially acceptable beliefs makes no sense. And if you look at the whole thing it seems like mingled together racist invention.
Ok but can I cherry pick based on different criteria? Why all or nothing? Biodynamic farming seems legit
Jeesus, you are f*cking very binary. Either/Or. Black/White. 1/0. Get Over Yourself.
What did he think about animals? Thank you for anything you could share to help me understand. xo
The word theorized is a mischaracterization of Steiner's work.
That the ideas/information he presents are theoretical is your opinion, which is perfectly okay for you to hold, but, Steiner did not present the ideas/information as either his beliefs or theories. The ideas/information are presented as not coming from him, but being presented by him as that which he has discovered through research.
Whether you believe that he is reporting actual findings of research, or that he is just theorizing, or rather, making the ideas/information up himself, is not the point.
Only that a distinction should be made between your opinion, and what the author says about his own work.
Thank you for the video and thorough efforts at researching this material.