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Andy is a drummer, producer and educator. He has toured the world with rock legend Robert Plant and played on classic prog albums by Frost and IQ.
As a drum clinician he has played with Terry Bozzio, Kenny Aronoff, Thomas Lang, Marco Minneman and Mike Portnoy.
He also teaches drums privately and at Kidderminster College
I have to disagree about the “new” song remains the same vs the original release… in my opinion the version of “No Quarter” from the original release contained one of the greatest guitar solos in zeppelin history, in fact the band interplay on that tune is absolutely one of the high points of Zeppelin live recordings. It very well may be a spliced together amalgam of a few performances, but no matter it is wonderful….on its own that track is worth owning the original release… great video
Let's not forget that the masterful JPJ used bass-pedals while simultaneously playing keyboards. A skill drafted from his time learning and playing church organs.
He had two pretty good cd's from late nineties to early 2000's. Not to forget Them Crooked Vultures. Man was he important to ZEP !
@@keithleeuwen877 Totally!
As a Canadian who will probably never get a chance to go to England, I say please, more guided tours of Led Zeppelin country!
needless to mention, ... I always enjoy your ramblings on LZ .... and all the 70s bands and Jazz and ROCK ... 👍
Thank you Andy. Saw Zeppelin in ‘72 here in Adelaide, South Australia and as a young bloke just starting to play music and get a bead on what it’s all about, it was mind boggling. I’ve to this day still, never experienced anything to that night when the band walked out on stage, plugged in, tested a few notes...and just exploded into Immigrant Song. Love your work...keep it up mate.
I enjoyed this. Thanks for showing Bonham's restplace. Fascinating
I saw Led Zep at Earls Court and Knebworth, particularly at Earls Court John Bonhams drum sound was immense, it was as if you could hear the drums reverberate through the stage itself. I've never come across that again. Led Zep live is why so many Zep fans are obsessed with bootlegs of their concerts. It was always constant creation from start to finish. I think its fair to say that some of Led Zeps most amazing musical creations have not been heard by many of their fans let alone general listeners. BTW the remastered SRemainsTS CD although much closer to a full LZep concert included the version of No Quarter from the film itself, which included a butchered version of JPage's solo and not the previously included sublime version (what a crime!)...so you had to keep your old CD as well as the new one.
Good! Should point out that "How The West Was Won" was recorded in June of 1972, not 1973.
Andy, great video. On the Bonham sound, wasn't his sound achieved by tuning large drums quite tight? He would tune them high(ish) so that they sounded like regular sized toms (in pitch) but, because of the tighter heads on big drums, could be hit harder with a quick rebound and thus sound huge. Is that what you meant about tuning lower? Just that they were well tuned larger sized drums? Anyway, /drumnerd. Thanks again :)
I worshipped Zep as a teen. I think Purple was better technically overall-especially Blackmore. I don’t love Sabbath, but they were more original. The best Rock and Roll band ever was The Who.
I prefer the energy of early Zep. JPJ and Entwistle kept the music on track.
Same with me with Zeppelin back in the day they were my favourite band of all time.
Knebworth 1979 queuing for 6 hours for a ticket outside Piccadilly Records Manchester for a ticket lol.
Wonderful video and discussion.
Tip for you, it's time for a video camera with vibration reduction and one that reduces rolling shutter (jumpiness when the camera pans). After all, the right instrument matters.
All the best.
JT
I enjoyed the short trip around the countryside, and I'm looking forward to an interview with Bev Bevin if you can swing that. Wrt Led Zep, I never did see them live. I had a few friends who did and said the concerts were great. I did used to have about 20-30 bootlegs of their concerts, and some of those certainly sounded great. One of those bootlegs had a version of Kashmir/ White Summer/ Black Mountain Side which was phenomenal. Unfortunately at the time I bought that I didn't have enough money to buy the bootleg on vinyl (triple bootleg album!), so I got a cheap cassette copy of it. It sounded great, but after 20-30 plays the cassettes pretty much self-destructed. I was so upset that I threw them away, which means I lost the details of which concert it was from. I suspect it was during the 1977 tour.
How the west was one .... I would say it's a slightly cocaine induced session, Page and Bonham were enjoying .... Don't know about Jonesy and Plant .. but Bonzo and Jimmy do sound highly motivated, and sometimes a little nervous or say restless ... that was a nice surprise at the end ... John Bonham .... R.I.P.
John Paul Jones often played bass pedals when he played keyboards or guitar. Some of the biggest acts of the 70s had a distinct dichotomy between their records and their live performances. The Who may be the best example. 70s Queen was like this to an extant- Did not sound like the recording but surely sounded like QUEEN!
Brian May described why stripped down line ups can be so impactful live: In the context of a large rock show, a listener's attention is challenged. The less cluttered the sound coming from the stage, the more the listener could directly and viscerally absorb what each musician was performing.
I don't know why TSRTS gets such a bad rep. I think it's brilliant. It's got some great versions of Whole Lotta Love, No Quarter, Dazed and Confused. It's amazing to see how Page translated the song The Song Remains The Same to a live-one-guitar arrangement. To transform all those guitar layers into something that actually works is unbelievable. And also we don't have Robert's sped up vocals that sounded awful on the original. Maybe people were turned off by Robert's lower register on the first songs? For me, they sound great - different, but great.
As for the rumours of overdubs, I've read somewhere that there was a lot of cut and paste from the different recordings of the three Madison Square Gardens shows, but no overdubs (except for a wah in Rock and Roll solo) (???)
Wow! I don`t mean to sound like a tourist but I`ve never considered John Bonham`s final resting place.( seems more for the family not on lookers) I don`t care much for grave sites. But John`s playing has always meant so much to me. I would respectively feel good about visiting. Hopefully one day I can do a Beatles tour in Liverpool and go to Birmingham and the Midlands. That will be a big deal for a 53 year old lad from Canada who has such a respect for the music that came from that region.
I have a theorie, or let's say picture of LZ: There are Jimmy and Bonzo as the axis or corner points of the band and there are Robert and Jonesy as perfect completion or correlate, they knew what had to be done .... and all this in total respect of each other .... strangely enough, there isn't anything known about quarrels ....
I started riding a bicycle in 1958. My bicycle has been in pieces since 2018. Can you imagine not buning gasoline because you don't want to?
Totally agree Andy on Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin live.
Blackmore was a showman allbeit not a flashy one.
very compelling video, keep on your nice and interesting video and commentaries , regards from Beijing ....
That graeyard. To quote Spinal Tap 'Too much effing perspective.'
Thanks for taking us out. The stop at Bonham’s grave was the perfect ending. And the rest of the video was pretty great as well.
Would it have been considered bad taste if you went into the church and let loose on those organ pipes?
I think one thing about live Zep that differentiates them from DP and other exploratory bands is the high degree of FUNK that permeates their live playing, which demonstrates the mind meld between Page and Bonham/JPJ. They funk harder than any band that ever lived, in my opinion. You can hear the funk in a lot of bootlegs; e.g., Communication Breakdown, Whole Lotta Love, etc. Plus, among the hard rock guitarists, I think Page is the best rockabilly player! The second solo of Heartbreaker is an example. Finally, a whole 3 hour peak era concert featured more different sounds and textures, vibes and styles, than any band in history.
The trip into the country was great. I'd love to see more. Being an English Literature major, visiting England should be on my bucket list.
Thank you for showing John Bonham's grave Andy. What a legend the man was. Please show us more mate.
Thank You Andy.Greetings from Southern New Jersey.Brilliant video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I’ve just watched the video of them performing In The Evening live from Knebworth in 1979 and it is amazing.
I was there! unbelievable.
@@salinasbeat They sound excellent, Jimmy looks in a mess but he is electrifying in that show. Lucky you.
Week 2 was a bit ropey
The bass on The Song Remains The Same is mesmerising , sometimes I feel it's the best song but you know that changes daily with Zep !
First proper gig I went to was Zeppelin at Knebworth. Part of the fence always got pulled down before the evening so it was “free”. It came down after Utopia played. The New Barbarians were on before Zeppelin with the great Zigaboo on drums.. (had no idea who he was at the time!).
Was a life changing gig for me.. even though the PA echoed .. (The video audio does it much more justice). Still not seen a band using their unique dynamic/textural range. Bonham’s deep tuned kit, Plant’s incredible vocals (almost Indo Fusion at times) Page’s free-form improvising and JP Jones’ bass, Keys & bass pedals really held them together.
Apart from some Big Bands/Orchestras the only group I’ve seen who were that compact & widely dynamic was Prince NPG.
Prince was a big Zep...he quotes In Through The Outdoor on one of his songs
Wunderbar Video Andy.
I find your take, being one of the very few to sit behind the drums behind Robert, extremely interesting. Thanks for what you do.
Saw Led Zeppelin twice in ‘76. They were just amazing live. Overwhelming.
Enjoyed the day trip to Bohnam’s resting place.
Glad to see you get outside.
I agree with you 100% about JPJ, and Bohnam’s drumming supported every song in a unique way. He drove the songs in a strange relaxed way. I hear that with you too.
I was curious about the English esthetic…. Do many of you make homemade Christmas Cookies? Or do you go with store bought?
Very good video, Zeppelin were an amazing live band. The live albums you talk about are good, but there are some exceptional live recordings on Bootlegs out there there, that I feel represent what Led Zeppelin were about live better than the official releases. I personally saw Zeppelin live five times, Preston 73, two nights at Earls Court and both Knebworth dates. Amazing live, and treasured memories.
Yes some of their bootlegs find the band in incredible form, and even better than the official releases. I grew up with Blueberry Hill, and their LA forum in 73 is one of my alltime favourite albums.
Also, check out some of the 1971 boots. Osaka on 9/29 is just blazing
Lucky you!
LED ZEPPELIN, YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION ! Carmine Appice was an influence on John Bonham as well in Carmine's opinion. Wow John's grave...thanks for showing that.
Great analysis and insights! Spot on man!
Thanks for showing us John Bonham's grave!! That was amazing! I'm actually amazed at how humble it is. Is it just me or does it seem like his gravestone should be maintained a bit better? I mean, nothing fancy but you should be able to read it right? It's a beautiful place though. He was the most influential drummer in my life. R.I.P. Bonzo ♥
Love your videos. I believe JPJ played bass pedals while he played keyboards. Have a look at Celebration Day.
In the track-by-track Sep coffee table book Terry Keating made a video about a few years ago, quite a few of the instrumentation credits for the keyboard songs would list bass followed by a question mark.
Zep.
I don't remember JPJ playing bass pedals when I saw Led Zep live but I'm sure that I noticed it when I saw "The Song Remains the Same" at the cinema in 1976.
He would play keys and bass pedals at the same time on “Trampled Underfoot” for sure, Richard. I have seen footage of that.
Thanks Andy for that ending.
You nailed their sonic genius. That separation lets the virtuosity of each member shine and rewards repeat listens with new details every time.
I’m in love with the contents of your mind and life experience. Thank you so much for sharing!
I loved the visit to John's grave. It's the kind of thing I also like to do to pay my respects. More of this please. 👍
A very fine video Andy, thank you 👍👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Very interesting vid. Great that you have the perspective of knowing and being in a band with Robert! I agree JPJones is amazing as a bassist and multi instrumentalist and how Bonham takes over when there is no bass a very interesting dynamic! Your tour is a good touch and yes it is a gulf of time since John B left this world!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You know they make big pink windbreakers for mics...
Great video! Yes more trips out and about would be excellent and maybe some in depth chats /rants with other musicians?
Just need to carve out the time to do this!
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Obviously appreciate that Andy! Lol!
Great show. Bravo !! I’d like to see all the rock and roll artists graves or places they’ve played. Etc. I be been working my genealogy for years and years
great seeing you out and about on this one.
I would like to get out more....
We need more Andy on the road and nature, talking good music sorrounded with birds and deers
Although not a huge fan of Live stuff, that is why I like Zeppelin Live so much! Just like you said, you get something 'Different' Not perhaps to the degree of course of the Grateful Dead (no one does that that I am aware of) But, because they were also so great Live, they are one of the VERY few bands where I have pretty much all their Live stuff (I surprisingly also really dig their 2007 final concert too, both on vinyl and Blu-ray!) And YES! The remastered/remixed 4-LP TSRTS is exponentially better! Completely blows away both my 1st US and early Japanese pressings 👍
But, take a band like Rush, who I passionately LOVE! BUT... to me there is no point in seeing them Live, which I did twice I think, because all you are going to hear is exactly what is on the album 😊 Wonderful analyses and experiences, thank you! The countryside there is absolutely *BEAUTIFUL!* It's nice that all that rain you have to put up with yields such lovely results 😁
I've left 17 billion memories and many many decades by the roadside. I remember watching Jimi Hendrix at the Forum and seeing a human being actually illuminated by their own inner light. Did no one else notice? Jimi was murdered, literally, on the night of my 16th birthday. You personally recommended Awaken to me so I listened again at it all came rushing back to me. I had their first and close to the Edge in 1976 and I was thrilled to inhale some skunkweed and dance around the room to their horribly angular rhythms. So I'm listening to Awaken for the third time and I remember! "Head music" - that's what we called it. King Crimson - Head Music. Hendrix feeling exploratory...head music. The Soft Machine - head music. Weird English folk music with lots of old-timey words - darkage troubador head music. See how simple we were? Zep was never head music. Zep was thunder, Zep was metal. Simple. Van Morrison - acoustic r'n'b. Simple. Garage bands - 96 Tears, the Mysterians. Simple. No pressure to push the bloody envelope. Rock and roll. You know, for dancing.
Hi Andy, great video again. Staffordshire lad myself now exiled in Kent but the Midlands had an atmosphere (and aroma) all of its own. Maybe for your next trip you could go further afield to find Bron Yr Aur, as Zeppelin’s music fused the Heavy Heart of Brum with the mystical countryside of Shropshire and Wales. A magical mixture for a 70s teenager (and it works still).
Btw, you mentioned ‘As Long As I Have You’ that you played with Robert. That’s a Garnett Mimms song, and Zeppelin actually played that at their early gigs. There’s a famous bootleg recorded at the Fillmore (East i think) in April ‘69 with ALAIHY on it, along with a re-work of Spirit’s Fresh Garbage. Darkness Darkness was originally by The Youngbloods, from their Elephant Mountain lp, an overlooked classic.
Keep ‘em coming 👍
The moment the camera showed Johns grave, I began to tear up. Didn’t expect that. Wiping away a tear at 57 yrs old, shows just how much Zeppelin and especially John Bonham has meant to me. They are the only band I can play at anytime and still feel the thrill of the first time. We were going to go to Montreal and somehow see them in 1980 when John died. 15 years old. No money. No car. No clue, but I was definitely gonna try to get there. I miss him so much. Much love from Canada.
John Bonham was very good when he kept time, which he did most of the time.
Very enjoyable! Thanks for the trip to the cemetery. I made it to London for my honeymoon almost 20 years ago but never got to explore the countryside. Maybe next year!
As Long As I Have You used to be played by Zeppelin during the early tours up to april 69... there are some really good recordings of it
Yes! I love the 4/27/69 recording at the Fillmore. Early look at Zep’s genius for riffing
Thank you for showing us the country side of the Birmingham area.
Your thoughts on Celebration Day would be cool as well.
Loved this but couldn’t help but feel you’ve missed that the live albums have a degree of editing on them. Have you checked out the Garden Tapes website by Eddie Edward’s? I think you’d find it really interesting.
Some examples…….. the flute intro on Stairway To Heaven on HTWWW, is lifted from Southampton 1973………
There are echo effects added to some of the guitar runs on Achilles Last Stand for the Knebworth footage.
I’m mentioning more because they are good examples of how Page held production control over the live stuff as well as the studio stuff.
Additionally JPJ plays a lot of foot pedal bass when he’s on keys, filling in the sound. You can see it on the Earls Court footage on Trampled Under Foot
As I said in the video, I was playing with RP when DVD was being pulled together, so I know how much control Page had over this and also how much the Zep boot collectors were involved in it...
Really enjoying the channel, thanks. ❤
Glad you enjoy it!
Woops, I thought it was just about TSRTS.
Thanks for the lovely video. One criticism: you say a couple of times that when Jonesy played keyboards there would be no bass but you didn't notice it. I'm not sure that's right; he often (always?) played bass pedals when he played keyboards.
Yes...and of course a keyboard has notes in the bass range. But not electric bass which has a drive to it that bass pedals does not
Zep should have made more decent recordings of more shows. 20/20 hindsight.
I know he is in Midsomer.
But you are my Inspector Barnaby
You had everything necessary in your roadtrip.Bravo
Double Bravo for your tombstone analysis
I saw Led Zeppelin at Earls Court, where they were amazing (and extremely loud), and at Knebworth, where they were a bit disappointing.
The video screen at Earls Court made it a much better experience.
I rememeber Jimmy Pages violin bow solo was actually panful it was that loud!
@@victorxyz My ears rang for three days after that. I'm sure that concert and the Who at Charlton Athletic permanently damaged my hearing.
@@Pwecko I saw Zep in 1972 and totally mesmerized as a 16 year old.They were incredibly loud and my ears I swear were ringing for a couple of days.A ring that was enjoyable !!
Outstanding!
Without Moby Dick and the movie sequences it is a stellar show.
Great vid, the ending especially, giving your international viewers a bit of a sense of where yourself, Robert Plant and John Bonham came from.
I’ve said it before on your comments section but I’m not the hugest fan of the bluesier end of Zeppelin,( albeit whilst recognising the importance of what they achieved musically). However on the live stuff,( and my only reference point is SRTS), they really do turn into a different band for me. I thoroughly agree with your appreciation of John
Paul Jones not just because of his versatility with keys and bass pedals contributions, but his bass playing on the live tracks Celebration Day, The Song Remains The Same, Dazed And Confused and Whole Lotta Love sounds outstanding. It sounds like it has as much in common with a funk player as much as it does a hard rock bassist, and given what the band are doing around him, as much like a Prog bassist as well for that matter.
Great vid again.
Thanks David...I think you got what i was trying to do with this one
loved zepp i had loads of bootlegs all thare recordings boxsets etc etc