He kind of took over, because Dawson was... well, the most unlikeable main character in the history of TV, but technically, Dawson was the hero in the meaning of who the story was about.
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes Look, I don't want to get into argument about it. If you think differently, good for you, really. Besides not enjoying angry comments about disputes, it's been about 10 years from its last rerun, so if we discussed, my facts could be hazy, plus it could be regional thing. The show presented Dawson growing up in normal household and Joey and Pacey having tough life. I'm not American, it can be realistic there, for us those two had normal life and Dawson was a spoiled rotten. Not the only reason, but many things came from that and it's also an example of what a big difference can viewer's area make. You have to understand I watched this with my sister and her friends before I was even a teenager. The first 5 times at least. Between me and someone watching it now is a gap of 20 years. Still, I watched it again with my peers. None of us liked him. We rooted for him and Joey, wildly really, but when that ship crashed, we realised it was for Joey, because she was the main character for us. I really can't think of anyone, who had it differently. And honestly, I don't think I say anything so shocking. Your surprise is the best thing I ever heard or read online about him.
@@christinelol4422 That's what YOU think, smarty. So you're saying that anybody who thinks that Dawson isn't unlikeable hasn't watched the show properly? Dawson is the one who saved a lot of peoples lives, he even gave money to Joey to go to college. But yes, to you, Dawson is an unlikeable person. It isn't me, instead it is you who needs to watch the show properly with your eyes open.
In Dawson's defense, he watched his parents go through a divorce because his Mom cheated on his Dad, so the times where he was jealous, especially in season 2 with Jack, was , while morally questionable, was still understandable. In the case of Dawson being controlling, or seeing Joey as his property, I honestly can't think of any examples of him being controlling, or seeing Joey as property, so if you have any examples, I'd love to hear them. Anyways, have a good day
Exactly she always wanted things her way, dawson was happy with Jen and she doesn't get out of the way, finally dated him, kiss jack and the love of her life and pacey ?! She's the problem .
Ace Cola When Pacey and Dawson fight over Joey with the sale boats in season three Pacey was about to give up on him and Joey and Dawson acts like Joey is his and no one else can have her.
@@acecola8295 Dawson acting like he had a right to know if Joey and Pacey were sleeping together. That is never okay he had no right to ask, they went out for what 4 months in show time over a year ago.
@@Kate-wp9ut When did Dawson say that he had a right to know if Pacey and Joey slept together? He completly moved out of their way. He simply let them be as they wanted to be.
I cannot believe you forgot about the ForeWarning Kiss! The one where Pacey says, "Joey I'm going to kiss you now...and if you don't want me to..then you'll just have to stop me...10."
@@KateSc722 Yes, because every kiss needs to come with a ten second countdown... I really feel sorry for the next generations who will be raised under the new regime that is so anxious about the concept of consent that they will basically outlaw one of the most amazing experiences lovers ever have: that moment when someone you desire pulls you in with no warning and passionately kisses you for the first time. Those are the types of kisses you remember for the rest of your life. In the future, kisses will require signed and notarized consent forms.
@@MyAccountForCommenting Are you seriously mad that the new generation takes consent seriously? Wow. In the Dawson’s Creek context (roadside kiss), Joey didn’t even know her feelings for Pacey yet. Pacey already knew his feelings. After the kiss, Joey was shock and mad. So yes, consent does matter in situation like this when one hasn’t comprehended their feelings for the other as yet.
@@MyAccountForCommenting well sorry to say this but maybe you have never been at the receiving end of an unrequited kiss... I can tell you it sucks and as a teenager or young adult you don't always realize that you have a right to express your non-consent....🙄
if you telling the truth you be single for the rest of your life, becosue if you looking for what you think is a perfect man, you will die alone. then again pacey had no problem sleeping with married women, so there that, of Couse the women was falling in love and he did not seem to care about them.
This show was totally Pacey's Creek. That monologue he gives Joey in the last episode "The smudges were gone. The window was clean." gets me every time.
Right? Back then, I recorded it on VHS :D, I'm probably old for UA-cam community, and watched it over and over. I don't think any other show did that, making an episode with only one couple.
YES! And it was refreshing to see their chemistry didn't die, even though the writers tried making it die. Clean and sober was great too. I loved when she said "you know what ELSE WE didn't do" implying she never got over him as well.
Moments that should've been mentioned: - Pacey defending Joey's honor against the school bully - Pacey & Joey doing the nasty in Pacey's office when he was a stock broker? - Pacey saving Joey from a drunk guy at a party in season 1
That drunk guy thing is what made me realize that Pacey had feelings for Joey LONG before the show wrote in feelings. When he said "I'm just her friend" he added "god knows" and then looked at her. IDK if that was written or if Josh adlibbed it, but it was very VERY telling that he had some sort of feels for her.
"Sometimes the hero doesn't get the girl." Well, in, "Dawson's Creek," the hero most definitely got the girl. Or were you under the mistaken impression that *Dawson* was the hero? 'Cause ... did you *see* all of the crap Dawson pulled during the show? Hardly a hero. Also, you left out one moment that I absolutely love: When he rented her a wall, so she could paint a mural.
I was thinking the same thing... Dawson was such an asshole and selfish idiot... I really couldn't stand him. Midway through season 1 I was fed up with his melodrama that wasn't even there. Damn I hated him.
I agree. He may have been the main character, but he was a villain in my book. It was pretty lousy of him to force Joey to choose between friendship with him and her relationship with the love of her life (Pacey). If she had any common sense, she would have told Dawson where he could stuff his ultimatum.
LivanaFaolan exactly!!! He was such a horrible human being for making her choose and get mad at her for falling in love.. he really scared her with that. And then they try to get back together??? I couldn't deal with that part.. Dawson was a really selfish character and felt like he was 6 years old in his thinking that Joey was his and only his. He didn't want her, not really, but damn if anyone else could have her...
100% this. Pacey was absolutely the BEST. Also yeah, the hero gets the girl, because Pacey was the hero, not selfish Dawson, who acted like Joey was his property. Pacey Witter will always be one of the best boyfriends on TV.
@ Caitriona Quigley That isn't the truth. Dawson was more of a whiny kid from only season 1 till season 3. From season 4 till season 6 and on wards, he became a very responsible person that no other character became.
The Guy Nobody Really Likes You're right, Dawson became more tolerable in their college years. He was at his worst in Season 3, when he is furious at Joey for falling for Pacey, despite the fact that HE was the one who rejected her in the first place. He also pulled stunts such as tricking Joey into going to prom with him, and nearly killing Pacey in a sailboat race, and yet was presented as being in the right a majority of the time.
I miss the ending of 4x01. After everyone asking and guessing whether they slept together the whole episode, they agree to do their favorite thing to do in the evening, fans' eyes lit up to find out they read fairy tales. Absolutely perfect.
I’m way late to the party, but I’m watching this on Netflix now for the first time. Adore Pacey. Honestly can’t fathom why Joey considered anyone else. Dawson was controlling and laid guilt trip after guilt trip on her. Pacey knew her better than she knew herself, was selfless, and loved her unconditionally. One moment this list missed in my opinion: Season 3 episode “A weekend in the Country” when Pacey just sat by the fire and watched Joey sleep. You knew right there they would never not be in love with each other. Simple moment, but sometimes those are the ones that define everything.
pacey did not know he better, that just crazy. and since dawson was the one that push her to be more, he was not controling. pacey was far more controling, i mean pacey brought dawson name up anytime he did not get what he wanted, he bitch about her not sleeping with him, blame dawson, look how many times pacey brought up dawson when they were togther. then look at how many time dawson brought up pacey, NEVER..
@@stevemyopinion423 We’ll have to agree to disagree. Dawson was manipulative, and laid guilt trips on Joey when it was clear she and Pacey had real feelings for each other. Was Pacey somewhat insecure? Yes, but that had more to do with his upbringing and the fact that his family constantly put him down, so he did bring up Dawson, not because he was controlling, but because he didn’t think he deserved Joey to a certain extent. Not only did he deserve her, as he slowly grew to believe over time, but he adored her, and she him, which is why, when all was said and done, they ended up together
the problem is why i agree dawson was kind of a jerk when he found out about pacey and joey, and it would have been better if they told him. Joey also told him she cant deside who to DATE, she made it seem like she could not pick once joey told dawson she wanted to be with dawson he told her to go. and yes pacey also bring up dawson was controlling, becosue she used him to get his way. ps they end up together becouse kevin the head writter said pacey had nothing else but joey.
@@stevemyopinion423 Dawson told her to go, and also put a guilt trip on her. Dawson was undoubtedly the worst and most selfish “best friend” imaginable. I prefer Pacey, you prefer Dawson. The great thing about shows like this is we each have our own interpretation of the characters, and can enjoy the same thing for different reasons. Dawson rubbed me the wrong way for the majority of the series. Pacey had his flaws, but for me, his good traits far outweighed them, and his and Joey’s chemistry was unmatched by any other couple
ok underrated scene was season 6 episode 22 or 23 at the wedding when he kisses her asking for a “favour” and then he kisses her cheek after I can never get over it
''I remember everything '' is everything , it will always be everything for me it's truly one of their most beautiful moments.Pacey and Joey i'm so glad they ended up tpgether my otp
I loved that scene but I think "Ask me to stay" on the wall and that precious moment at the senior party when Pacey asks Joey 'hypothetically' "If one day I find myself owning a sailboat again and I was to ask the woman I love to go sailing with me...would she?" To her response of " You wouldn't have to ask Pace." was their truest testament that they were going to be endgame - no matter how long it took. That scene was epic to me, it gave me hope and peace about the depth of their love!
what about that scene where Pacey escorts Joey to the Worthington event?? That part where he tells her about the words tumbling out of his mouth, because he was head over heels in love with her...
Just because you are a Pacey and Joey fan, that doesn't mean that there aren't Dawson and Joey fans, and that, there cannot be a Dawson and Joey list too.
I absolutely loved tha moment after tha huge prom break up Joey goes to pacey's beach house to invite him to that Worthington event an as she's rambling on he abruptly says "I miss you Jo" ugh that was so sweet😍 an just broke my heart at tha same damn time😔..I will always love those 2 2gether!
Pacey wasn’t just the best boyfriend but he was the best friend ever! Always loyal. He never saw things as black and white like Dawson did. He knew and saw gray.
@@stevemyopinion423 controlling? No Dawson was and had jealousy issues. You can’t really blame Pacey for being considered if Joey still had feelings for Dawson. Those two are he’s oldest and closest friends. He always knew that both Joey and Dawson liked each other so he knew they would eventually date once they both got the courage to admit their feelings to one another. So when they broke up he wasn’t sure if the feelings they had towards each actually died. And plus Dawson is so self centered that he completely forgot about Pacey’s birthday over a girl!
@@stevemyopinion423 lol même en france on c'est que pacey était un bon gars, il a été là pour c'est petite copine pour joey,andy et même ses amis jen, dawson jack
Pacey did not ghost Jory because he thought she had feelings for Dawson. And big deal Dawson forgot pacey birthday. You don’t see Pacey remember Dawson in season 4. Dawson was dealing with a death and pacey did not even try to talk to him. Pacey the self center one
Pacey and Joey forever! Their first time is still one of the most perfect first times I've saw on TV! So romantic and gentle! ❤ Pacey was always the best and had a selfless love, while Dawson always acted in a possessive way, like Joey was his property or something.. In the end, the true love won: Pacey and Joey ❤
I'm always been a Team Peacy, since the first episode. One of my favourite episodes is when they are all in Jen's grandmother's house, i gues, and she says that you know that you are in love with someone when you can spend all night watching him/her to sleep. And than you see Peacy watching Joey slepping.
Such a perfect believable couple and they made it look real. The scene where Joey runs to wharf to tell Pacey she loves him. The series could have ended there and I would be fine. Although drunk Joey in season 4 early on was really great! Joey could be so good in the teasing role.
Loved these two. I always thought Dawson was her soulmate, but this pairing took me by surprise and I then decided Pacey & Joey were meant to be endgame. 😬❤️😊
Quite frankly my favorite moment was the dock scene at the beginning of season 3 when she’s crying and he hugs her. It’s just the sweetest moment and that’s before they even liked each other.
One of my favorites is where Joey are drunk in s3 and stressed about collage and she reveals she was willing to stay in Capeside if it meant for them the stay together where he sweet told her that that was a bad idea since he wasn't going to be in Capreside but wherever she was. It gave me that feeling that this was very real bc Dawson compared this situation to Paris and while he was selfish (he claimed that himself) enough to let her stay, Pacey was ready to let her liv out her dream and sacrifice himself bc he knew it wouldn't feel right or at home without her. (And he knew if she stayed she would somewhere in her heart where sad over it and he loved her too much for letting that happen)
The story of the girl who fell in love with the sea creature from the deep. ❤ Idc what anyone says, Pacey and Joey were a true love match. At the end of the day, and despite everything that may have happened, Pacey was the better man for her. Once they fell in love, that was it. Neither of them were meant to be with another for the long haul. Nor in their hearts did they want to be. They both challenged each other and motivated each other to push themselves past their limits and fears. They ended up being the best thing that ever happened to each other. "True love" lived on through Jacey! ⛵❤
I love Pacey and Joey. I don't get them putting their plot driven "Promicide" break up on the list though (WTF?) They rushed them breaking up and turning Pacey into a douchebag that episode to have Dawson and Joey kiss at the end of the season. If they had to do that, they should of put their moments in "Separation Anxiety" instead, a better and more realistic episode focusing on their break up. My favorite moments with them is "I remember everything," Pacey saying "ten" before kissing Joey (that whole scene is so hot, until Gwen interrupts argh!) Joey kissing Pacey for the first time, their make out in "The Longest Day," and when Joey lost her virginity to Pacey.
bsbgirl85 yeah, I agree. Their break up was a painful scene for all of us, Joey and Pacey shippers, and they made Pacey completely OOC just to put Dawson kissing Joey at the end of that season. All the other moments in the list are very right, but no their break up. They should've put the scene in S3 of Pacey watching Joey sleep.
I agree, putting Pacey dumping Joey in this list makes no sense. I agree about the scene of him watching her sleep was a glaring omission here, along with him buying her the wall.
Thank you so much I said this exact same thing. And people were trying to fight me but if you watch the series and especially if you saw it at the time when it was airing or even when they were airing the reruns it was really clear that they put that in there so that Dawson and Joey could kiss at the end of the season and mollify people who wanted them together. But it wasn’t a true moment in their relationship because it didn’t make any sense. Pacey was so out of character.
MsInterestedParty agreed! At that point in the show, it was obvious that Pacey had a real and pure love for Joey. So for him to yell at her and break up in the middle of prom felt unecessary. By then the Dawson & Joey storyline wasn't working but they forced it anyway
Im a DC fan for life! Back in the day I loved Dawson but I didn't like him and Joey together. I loved Joey and Pacey together and just made sense for the story line for them to be together at the end!
I have been waiting for this video since I've started watching msmojo and watchmojo. Jacey is my all time favourite couple love love them could watch more top moments from them all the time
jaceylfe Noel me too! I was a little over excited when I saw this added the other day! I'm like FINALLY! After years I've spent watching watchmojo/msmojo 😂 #loser
It was always Pacey and Joey... always. I rooted for them always. They are in my OTP list! Watching them do their dance S3 each week was sooooooo frustrating.
Am I the only one who didn’t like how Dawson treated Joey like property he owned and he could just hop from girl to girl keeping her on hold like a clothing item in a garment store🙄Also what the hell was the point of Eddie. I didn’t understand that relationship one bit. But I genuinely loved how pacey always spoke highly of Joey.
I personally like their first time scene more than their "happy ending". Joey knew he loved Pacey and while Pacey was mostly the one to go out there (in terms of their relationship) the fact that it was initiated by Joey meant a lot. I also love the one when he says he is gonna count to ten and then kissed her. And I don't get how their break up is in this list, it's so painful.
I don't think it's fair to say Pacey wasn't a hero. Dawson and he both loved Joey in their own ways. I am Team Dawson but I can respect the ship was more friendship between Joey and Dawson. Whereas Pacey and Joey was always passionate from the beginning.
This makes me wanna go back and watch the series again. I freaking love these 2 together! It seemed like they had more fun than her and dawson as a couple. #dawsonscreek #joeyandpaceyforever #truelovewinsout
That's what YOU think. There are a lot of Dawson and Joey fans who don't like Pacey and Joey. And so, they are the ones who disliked video. And I am one of them.
Well... James Van Der Beek was really happy Joey and Pacey ended up together. He said in their reunion show that he thought that was the right decision and more realistic.
I'm glad Joey had her time with both boys as both relationships were special. There's this soulmate aspect with Dawson but Pacey was the love of her life. I'm thrilled she ended up with Pacey! I began getting pissed at Dawson not "seeing" Joey towards the end of the 1st season and when that episode came along where they flirted at her with Pacey, I began rooting for them to be together. I actually never expected for it to happen in future seasons as it did but I was hooping and hollering with delight!!
Dawson: "Your free, do what you want" takes off to Pacey Pacey: "Your off the hook" tells Pacey (in offscreenville) he's the one The words both use perfectly describe why Pacey is the better man. Your free represents her being some sort of prisoner. His property. Letting her off the hook simply means he wants her to know that she shouldn't feel troubled by any feelings or decisions she thinks she has to make when it comes to him. He can move on and she can move on too without feeling any sort of guilt or doubt that he's waiting for something or that she should be weighted down by his feelings for her, hence adding that the simple act of loving her is enough for him (he doesn't actually have to be with her).
The Hero did get the girl...... Edit: how the hell did that prom episode make it in here??? It was such a cop out and total nonsense to appease Dawson & Joey shippers at the time
Miranda ramirez honestly not to me. What you remember about the third and fourth season of Dawson’s creek is not that episode you remember what Pacey whispered to her on the dance floor or the kiss at aunt Gwen’s house or even Dawson dating Gretchen. You don’t remember what was clearly pandering and a completely out of left field turn of events. Just look years later we aren’t talking about their break up we are talking about their relationship. At least that’s how I see it!
Miranda ramirez I mean that’s cool? We are all allowed our own opinions. Also I have been rewatching this series for quite some time, I don’t really think that matters in the context of this discussion. Even if a person didn’t own the dvds and only watched the reruns on the TBS they could still weigh in on what was memorable. Having an opinion is awesome treating it like it’s fact not as so much. Have a good one!
My favorite couple ever 💜 Quick question though how did the one scene that most P/J fans want to forget end up on the list? But no mention of when Pacey first shows Joey her wall?
and the kiss on the dance floor at Dawson mother 's wedding? and he watching her sleeping next to the fireplace? it's when he realized he is in love with her.
MsFriendsfan4ever I imagine Jen more than Gretchen. But at the same time, I would've loved to see Jack and Jen end up together. If he wasn't gay of course 😂
Whitney Moreau Of course if Jack wasn’t gay then he and Jen would be totallly perfect for eachother, but Jen and Dawson had such powerful chemistry, and with Gretchen we saw a different side to Dawson, one that was considered and nice and understanding, the only thing standing in the way of Dawson and Gretchen was the age difference, but give and take a few years and the age difference wouldn’t have mattered.
MsFriendsfan4ever I like Gretchen but at the same time I think the writers tried too hard with them. Like for some reason Dawson just had to date Pacey's sister while Pacey is dating his ex/best friend. It's like they were trying too hard to create conflict. I like her as an actress and I like her character. Her relationship with Dawson was a bit blah to me.
Basically pacey was saying(out of anger and insecurity) that when he's around Joey, he feels inadequate and like their relationship is destined for failure because of it.
It was such a cop out from the writers, and even if they could justify breaking them up for that reason, having Pacey yell at her and shame her in front of their entire prom just made NO sense, he'd never have done that. Not in public.
No, it's Andie. Joey makes Pacey insecure. Because of her lies, because of her hesitations, and because Pacey knew, in his heart, that a part of Joey will always Dawson. At this point, he can't accept that.
"The hero doesn't get the girl"????
PACEY WAS THE HERO OF DAWSON'S CREEK
He kind of took over, because Dawson was... well, the most unlikeable main character in the history of TV, but technically, Dawson was the hero in the meaning of who the story was about.
@@tsevca So exactly how was Dawson unlikeable?
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes Look, I don't want to get into argument about it. If you think differently, good for you, really. Besides not enjoying angry comments about disputes, it's been about 10 years from its last rerun, so if we discussed, my facts could be hazy, plus it could be regional thing. The show presented Dawson growing up in normal household and Joey and Pacey having tough life. I'm not American, it can be realistic there, for us those two had normal life and Dawson was a spoiled rotten. Not the only reason, but many things came from that and it's also an example of what a big difference can viewer's area make.
You have to understand I watched this with my sister and her friends before I was even a teenager. The first 5 times at least. Between me and someone watching it now is a gap of 20 years. Still, I watched it again with my peers. None of us liked him. We rooted for him and Joey, wildly really, but when that ship crashed, we realised it was for Joey, because she was the main character for us. I really can't think of anyone, who had it differently.
And honestly, I don't think I say anything so shocking. Your surprise is the best thing I ever heard or read online about him.
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes you’re kidding? You’ve obviously not watched the show properly.
@@christinelol4422 That's what YOU think, smarty. So you're saying that anybody who thinks that Dawson isn't unlikeable hasn't watched the show properly? Dawson is the one who saved a lot of peoples lives, he even gave money to Joey to go to college. But yes, to you, Dawson is an unlikeable person. It isn't me, instead it is you who needs to watch the show properly with your eyes open.
These two were the best couple in Dawson's Creek and one of the best couples in TV history.
mariettula Nah that would go to haley and Nathan from one tree hill.
Teamdawson lol
Completely disagree, she should of ended up with Eddie or the Professor Wilder.
That's what YOU think!
Agreed
Dawson was always controlling, jealous and felt that Joey was his property. So yes, the hero did get the girl! Team Pacey all the way! Woot woot!
In Dawson's defense, he watched his parents go through a divorce because his Mom cheated on his Dad, so the times where he was jealous, especially in season 2 with Jack, was , while morally questionable, was still understandable. In the case of Dawson being controlling, or seeing Joey as his property, I honestly can't think of any examples of him being controlling, or seeing Joey as property, so if you have any examples, I'd love to hear them. Anyways, have a good day
Exactly she always wanted things her way, dawson was happy with Jen and she doesn't get out of the way, finally dated him, kiss jack and the love of her life and pacey ?! She's the problem .
Ace Cola When Pacey and Dawson fight over Joey with the sale boats in season three Pacey was about to give up on him and Joey and Dawson acts like Joey is his and no one else can have her.
@@acecola8295 Dawson acting like he had a right to know if Joey and Pacey were sleeping together. That is never okay he had no right to ask, they went out for what 4 months in show time over a year ago.
@@Kate-wp9ut When did Dawson say that he had a right to know if Pacey and Joey slept together? He completly moved out of their way. He simply let them be as they wanted to be.
I cannot believe you forgot about the ForeWarning Kiss! The one where Pacey says, "Joey I'm going to kiss you now...and if you don't want me to..then you'll just have to stop me...10."
A lot better than the roadside kiss; at least he had consent with the “forewarning kiss.”
@@KateSc722 Yes, because every kiss needs to come with a ten second countdown... I really feel sorry for the next generations who will be raised under the new regime that is so anxious about the concept of consent that they will basically outlaw one of the most amazing experiences lovers ever have: that moment when someone you desire pulls you in with no warning and passionately kisses you for the first time. Those are the types of kisses you remember for the rest of your life. In the future, kisses will require signed and notarized consent forms.
@@MyAccountForCommenting Are you seriously mad that the new generation takes consent seriously? Wow. In the Dawson’s Creek context (roadside kiss), Joey didn’t even know her feelings for Pacey yet. Pacey already knew his feelings. After the kiss, Joey was shock and mad. So yes, consent does matter in situation like this when one hasn’t comprehended their feelings for the other as yet.
@@MyAccountForCommenting well sorry to say this but maybe you have never been at the receiving end of an unrequited kiss... I can tell you it sucks and as a teenager or young adult you don't always realize that you have a right to express your non-consent....🙄
@@MyAccountForCommenting😅😂
Pacey Witter is truly the reason i have unreacheble boyfriend expecations
girl, I am a grown ass married woman and I still have a crush on Pacey Witter
@@georgianasutu5882 ok!!
Truth!
right? I could never wrap my head around the reason why I'm still keeping myself single...it's cause I'm just waiting for my Pacey :D
if you telling the truth you be single for the rest of your life, becosue if you looking for what you think is a perfect man, you will die alone.
then again pacey had no problem sleeping with married women, so there that, of Couse the women was falling in love and he did not seem to care about them.
This show was totally Pacey's Creek. That monologue he gives Joey in the last episode "The smudges were gone. The window was clean." gets me every time.
Omg yes It should have been called Pacey’s creek instead of Dawson’s creek I hated Dawson in every season
@@elliehege9748 So why did you hate Dawson in every season?
@@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes I didn’t hate him I just did not like him he was Controlling
Dawson was not control ing at a!I.
He told Joey to go find happiness told to to pacey. He was never controlling.
@@stevemyopinion423 Took him forever to do so. It was painful to watch The Longest Day.
I can't tell you how many times I have rewatched "Castaways!" A whole episode of Pacey and Joey and it was amazing.
Right? Back then, I recorded it on VHS :D, I'm probably old for UA-cam community, and watched it over and over. I don't think any other show did that, making an episode with only one couple.
I watch castaways at least once a week
Yes my favourite one with both of them 😍
Truly amazing! I’ve been watching it over and over now that it’s on Netflix.
YES! And it was refreshing to see their chemistry didn't die, even though the writers tried making it die. Clean and sober was great too. I loved when she said "you know what ELSE WE didn't do" implying she never got over him as well.
Moments that should've been mentioned:
- Pacey defending Joey's honor against the school bully
- Pacey & Joey doing the nasty in Pacey's office when he was a stock broker?
- Pacey saving Joey from a drunk guy at a party in season 1
Pacey turning down Anna on the ski trip should definitely be up there.
That drunk guy thing is what made me realize that Pacey had feelings for Joey LONG before the show wrote in feelings. When he said "I'm just her friend" he added "god knows" and then looked at her. IDK if that was written or if Josh adlibbed it, but it was very VERY telling that he had some sort of feels for her.
@@tbird4u1you actually watched the show and paid attention to lines and details. I appreciate that 😊
Everyone knows “I remember everything” is #1 😍😘
Katie Denmark It was close to the top spot, but it was just edged out by the finale!
yessss!!!!
Yesssss. Legit goosebumps everytime 😍
Far as I'm concerned, #1 should have been the moment when Joey admitted her love for him and then went sailing with him.
The "ask me to stay" and when Joey lost her virginity with him are also the top ones. ❤
"Sometimes the hero doesn't get the girl."
Well, in, "Dawson's Creek," the hero most definitely got the girl.
Or were you under the mistaken impression that *Dawson* was the hero? 'Cause ... did you *see* all of the crap Dawson pulled during the show? Hardly a hero.
Also, you left out one moment that I absolutely love: When he rented her a wall, so she could paint a mural.
LivanaFaolan OMG I haven’t watched the entire video yet, they left out the wall!!!!!!??? That was an awesome moment 😦
I was thinking the same thing... Dawson was such an asshole and selfish idiot... I really couldn't stand him. Midway through season 1 I was fed up with his melodrama that wasn't even there. Damn I hated him.
I agree. He may have been the main character, but he was a villain in my book. It was pretty lousy of him to force Joey to choose between friendship with him and her relationship with the love of her life (Pacey). If she had any common sense, she would have told Dawson where he could stuff his ultimatum.
LivanaFaolan exactly!!! He was such a horrible human being for making her choose and get mad at her for falling in love.. he really scared her with that. And then they try to get back together??? I couldn't deal with that part..
Dawson was a really selfish character and felt like he was 6 years old in his thinking that Joey was his and only his. He didn't want her, not really, but damn if anyone else could have her...
100% this. Pacey was absolutely the BEST. Also yeah, the hero gets the girl, because Pacey was the hero, not selfish Dawson, who acted like Joey was his property. Pacey Witter will always be one of the best boyfriends on TV.
Yay! I always shipped Joey with Pacey more than Dawson. I was delighted when they finally got together at the end! Team Pacey for life! 😍💘💞
Caitriona Quigley Yaaaassss! I could not stand Dawson.
JustAFan Fave Likewise. While I liked Dawson at first, he just became very whiny and entitled overtime.
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@ Caitriona Quigley That isn't the truth. Dawson was more of a whiny kid from only season 1 till season 3. From season 4 till season 6 and on wards, he became a very responsible person that no other character became.
The Guy Nobody Really Likes You're right, Dawson became more tolerable in their college years. He was at his worst in Season 3, when he is furious at Joey for falling for Pacey, despite the fact that HE was the one who rejected her in the first place. He also pulled stunts such as tricking Joey into going to prom with him, and nearly killing Pacey in a sailboat race, and yet was presented as being in the right a majority of the time.
My favorite moment was Pacey watching her sleep by the fireside 😍
Tiffany Sox I agree with you.
You're so right. That scene is so romantic ❤
I was going to say that should have been on there
I was waiting for that one. That was definitely on my list
Omg that was sooooooo romantic I was crying
I looooooovvvveeee Pacey and Joey together!!! This is making me want to binge watch Dawson's creek again. Lol
Nicole M I'm watching season three right now!! ❤
Same
Same
Facts its a roll coaster with 2
+Nicole M: If you need a Joey Pacey fix, all you need is Season 3, Castaways and the Finale (from Season 6).
I miss the ending of 4x01. After everyone asking and guessing whether they slept together the whole episode, they agree to do their favorite thing to do in the evening, fans' eyes lit up to find out they read fairy tales. Absolutely perfect.
I’m way late to the party, but I’m watching this on Netflix now for the first time. Adore Pacey. Honestly can’t fathom why Joey considered anyone else. Dawson was controlling and laid guilt trip after guilt trip on her. Pacey knew her better than she knew herself, was selfless, and loved her unconditionally.
One moment this list missed in my opinion: Season 3 episode “A weekend in the Country” when Pacey just sat by the fire and watched Joey sleep. You knew right there they would never not be in love with each other. Simple moment, but sometimes those are the ones that define everything.
pacey did not know he better, that just crazy.
and since dawson was the one that push her to be more, he was not controling.
pacey was far more controling, i mean pacey brought dawson name up anytime he did not get what he wanted, he bitch about her not sleeping with him, blame dawson, look how many times pacey brought up dawson when they were togther.
then look at how many time dawson brought up pacey, NEVER..
@@stevemyopinion423 We’ll have to agree to disagree. Dawson was manipulative, and laid guilt trips on Joey when it was clear she and Pacey had real feelings for each other. Was Pacey somewhat insecure? Yes, but that had more to do with his upbringing and the fact that his family constantly put him down, so he did bring up Dawson, not because he was controlling, but because he didn’t think he deserved Joey to a certain extent. Not only did he deserve her, as he slowly grew to believe over time, but he adored her, and she him, which is why, when all was said and done, they ended up together
the problem is why i agree dawson was kind of a jerk when he found out about pacey and joey, and it would have been better if they told him.
Joey also told him she cant deside who to DATE, she made it seem like she could not pick once joey told dawson she wanted to be with dawson he told her to go.
and yes pacey also bring up dawson was controlling, becosue she used him to get his way.
ps they end up together becouse kevin the head writter said pacey had nothing else but joey.
@@stevemyopinion423 Dawson told her to go, and also put a guilt trip on her. Dawson was undoubtedly the worst and most selfish “best friend” imaginable.
I prefer Pacey, you prefer Dawson. The great thing about shows like this is we each have our own interpretation of the characters, and can enjoy the same thing for different reasons. Dawson rubbed me the wrong way for the majority of the series. Pacey had his flaws, but for me, his good traits far outweighed them, and his and Joey’s chemistry was unmatched by any other couple
he did not put a good trip on her, he told her to go, becouse he loved her and wanted her happy. she felt guilty becouse she loves him.
i will forever be team pacey & i’m so happy they were endgame. he was the better man & the better match & the first tv couple i ever rooted for 💜
"Permission to come aboard?" 😍
Madison permission granted
Permission granted.
ok underrated scene was season 6 episode 22 or 23 at the wedding when he kisses her asking for a “favour” and then he kisses her cheek after I can never get over it
May only be 17 but these are the most amazing loveable ship and characters ever and deserve love. Especially the way he looks at her 😭😭💜💜💜💜💜
''I remember everything '' is everything , it will always be everything for me it's truly one of their most beautiful moments.Pacey and Joey i'm so glad they ended up tpgether
my otp
One of the most romantic moment 💕💕💕
I loved that scene but I think "Ask me to stay" on the wall and that precious moment at the senior party when Pacey asks Joey 'hypothetically' "If one day I find myself owning a sailboat again and I was to ask the woman I love to go sailing with me...would she?" To her response of " You wouldn't have to ask Pace." was their truest testament that they were going to be endgame - no matter how long it took. That scene was epic to me, it gave me hope and peace about the depth of their love!
to me, Pacey was the hero... =]
No, he was Joey's dog.
@@clauderain312 and she was Dawson’s dog.
My favorite couple ever. How many times have I watched the entire series just for the moments of these two characters. Thanks for this.
what about that scene where Pacey escorts Joey to the Worthington event?? That part where he tells her about the words tumbling out of his mouth, because he was head over heels in love with her...
I'm happy this experience wasn't cheapened with a Joey and Dawson list.
Just because you are a Pacey and Joey fan, that doesn't mean that there aren't Dawson and Joey fans, and that, there cannot be a Dawson and Joey list too.
“You’re off the hook”
I love these two
Castaways is one of my top favourite episodes. A new Dawson’s Creek watcher but I was quickly team Pacey
"I remember everything"
Pacey & Joey ❤
I absolutely loved tha moment after tha huge prom break up Joey goes to pacey's beach house to invite him to that Worthington event an as she's rambling on he abruptly says "I miss you Jo" ugh that was so sweet😍 an just broke my heart at tha same damn time😔..I will always love those 2 2gether!
Pacey wasn’t just the best boyfriend but he was the best friend ever! Always loyal. He never saw things as black and white like Dawson did. He knew and saw gray.
Pacey was a bad boyfriend and friend he was controlling jealous. He ghost Joey for mouths.
@@stevemyopinion423 controlling? No Dawson was and had jealousy issues. You can’t really blame Pacey for being considered if Joey still had feelings for Dawson. Those two are he’s oldest and closest friends. He always knew that both Joey and Dawson liked each other so he knew they would eventually date once they both got the courage to admit their feelings to one another. So when they broke up he wasn’t sure if the feelings they had towards each actually died. And plus Dawson is so self centered that he completely forgot about Pacey’s birthday over a girl!
@@stevemyopinion423 lol même en france on c'est que pacey était un bon gars, il a été là pour c'est petite copine pour joey,andy et même ses amis jen, dawson jack
Pacey did not ghost Jory because he thought she had feelings for Dawson.
And big deal Dawson forgot pacey birthday. You don’t see Pacey remember Dawson in season 4. Dawson was dealing with a death and pacey did not even try to talk to him. Pacey the self center one
Today I finished watching Dawson's creek final episode. Never watched it when it was aired. Glad Joey stayed with Pace. I fall in love with him.
Pacey and Joey forever! Their first time is still one of the most perfect first times I've saw on TV! So romantic and gentle! ❤ Pacey was always the best and had a selfless love, while Dawson always acted in a possessive way, like Joey was his property or something.. In the end, the true love won: Pacey and Joey ❤
And Joey didn't act like Dawson was her property?
I'm always been a Team Peacy, since the first episode. One of my favourite episodes is when they are all in Jen's grandmother's house, i gues, and she says that you know that you are in love with someone when you can spend all night watching him/her to sleep. And than you see Peacy watching Joey slepping.
That's at Joey's house actually when they're being fake B&B guests ;)
Such a perfect believable couple and they made it look real. The scene where Joey runs to wharf to tell Pacey she loves him. The series could have ended there and I would be fine. Although drunk Joey in season 4 early on was really great! Joey could be so good in the teasing role.
Omg I love this couple soooo much!!! Thank u msmojo
Loved these two. I always thought Dawson was her soulmate, but this pairing took me by surprise and I then decided Pacey & Joey were meant to be endgame. 😬❤️😊
Quite frankly my favorite moment was the dock scene at the beginning of season 3 when she’s crying and he hugs her. It’s just the sweetest moment and that’s before they even liked each other.
One of my favorites is where Joey are drunk in s3 and stressed about collage and she reveals she was willing to stay in Capeside if it meant for them the stay together where he sweet told her that that was a bad idea since he wasn't going to be in Capreside but wherever she was.
It gave me that feeling that this was very real bc Dawson compared this situation to Paris and while he was selfish (he claimed that himself) enough to let her stay, Pacey was ready to let her liv out her dream and sacrifice himself bc he knew it wouldn't feel right or at home without her. (And he knew if she stayed she would somewhere in her heart where sad over it and he loved her too much for letting that happen)
The story of the girl who fell in love with the sea creature from the deep. ❤
Idc what anyone says, Pacey and Joey were a true love match. At the end of the day, and despite everything that may have happened, Pacey was the better man for her. Once they fell in love, that was it. Neither of them were meant to be with another for the long haul. Nor in their hearts did they want to be. They both challenged each other and motivated each other to push themselves past their limits and fears. They ended up being the best thing that ever happened to each other. "True love" lived on through Jacey! ⛵❤
I love there banter back and forth. I love them
The hero does get the girl. Pacey is my hero of the series
That dance teacher outing them is so uncomfortable and hilarious at the same time hahaha
I love Pacey and Joey. I don't get them putting their plot driven "Promicide" break up on the list though (WTF?) They rushed them breaking up and turning Pacey into a douchebag that episode to have Dawson and Joey kiss at the end of the season. If they had to do that, they should of put their moments in "Separation Anxiety" instead, a better and more realistic episode focusing on their break up. My favorite moments with them is "I remember everything," Pacey saying "ten" before kissing Joey (that whole scene is so hot, until Gwen interrupts argh!) Joey kissing Pacey for the first time, their make out in "The Longest Day," and when Joey lost her virginity to Pacey.
bsbgirl85 yeah, I agree. Their break up was a painful scene for all of us, Joey and Pacey shippers, and they made Pacey completely OOC just to put Dawson kissing Joey at the end of that season. All the other moments in the list are very right, but no their break up. They should've put the scene in S3 of Pacey watching Joey sleep.
I agree, putting Pacey dumping Joey in this list makes no sense. I agree about the scene of him watching her sleep was a glaring omission here, along with him buying her the wall.
Thank you so much I said this exact same thing. And people were trying to fight me but if you watch the series and especially if you saw it at the time when it was airing or even when they were airing the reruns it was really clear that they put that in there so that Dawson and Joey could kiss at the end of the season and mollify people who wanted them together. But it wasn’t a true moment in their relationship because it didn’t make any sense. Pacey was so out of character.
bsbgirl85 that is a fantastic list!
MsInterestedParty agreed! At that point in the show, it was obvious that Pacey had a real and pure love for Joey. So for him to yell at her and break up in the middle of prom felt unecessary. By then the Dawson & Joey storyline wasn't working but they forced it anyway
Im a DC fan for life! Back in the day I loved Dawson but I didn't like him and Joey together. I loved Joey and Pacey together and just made sense for the story line for them to be together at the end!
And the fact Katie and Josh dated in real life the 1st 2 seasons made for such great chemistry on the show
I have been waiting for this video since I've started watching msmojo and watchmojo. Jacey is my all time favourite couple love love them could watch more top moments from them all the time
jaceylfe Noel me too! I was a little over excited when I saw this added the other day! I'm like FINALLY! After years I've spent watching watchmojo/msmojo 😂 #loser
It was always Pacey and Joey... always. I rooted for them always. They are in my OTP list! Watching them do their dance S3 each week was sooooooo frustrating.
Am I the only one who didn’t like how Dawson treated Joey like property he owned and he could just hop from girl to girl keeping her on hold like a clothing item in a garment store🙄Also what the hell was the point of Eddie. I didn’t understand that relationship one bit. But I genuinely loved how pacey always spoke highly of Joey.
Oh my goodness this is the best thing in the whole world thank you so much for putting this up!!!!! Pacey and Joey for life!!❤💜❤
For me, Pacey was the hero of Dawson' s Creek. Team Pacey forever!!!!!! And I love Pacey & Joey!!!!!!! ❤💖😍
Memoriess!! Always been on their team, they were perfect for each other and they really deserved to end up together ;-)
I loved them together. And i was sad that they broke up in real life. One of the best shows. One of my top fav. Memories.....i miss old television
My forever loves!!! #TeamPacey for life!!
I personally like their first time scene more than their "happy ending". Joey knew he loved Pacey and while Pacey was mostly the one to go out there (in terms of their relationship) the fact that it was initiated by Joey meant a lot. I also love the one when he says he is gonna count to ten and then kissed her. And I don't get how their break up is in this list, it's so painful.
Forever Pacey & Joey ❤❤❤
what are you talking about MsMojo? The hero did get the girl lol. Pacey Witter is the hero
I am rewatching Dawson’s creek!! Love this tv show ❤️ Pacey is wonderful guy
They were adorable together
I don't think it's fair to say Pacey wasn't a hero. Dawson and he both loved Joey in their own ways. I am Team Dawson but I can respect the ship was more friendship between Joey and Dawson. Whereas Pacey and Joey was always passionate from the beginning.
This makes me wanna go back and watch the series again. I freaking love these 2 together! It seemed like they had more fun than her and dawson as a couple. #dawsonscreek #joeyandpaceyforever #truelovewinsout
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I think Dawson made several UA-cam accounts to dislike this video! 😂😅😂😂
That's what YOU think. There are a lot of Dawson and Joey fans who don't like Pacey and Joey. And so, they are the ones who disliked video. And I am one of them.
Lmao for real
Well... James Van Der Beek was really happy Joey and Pacey ended up together. He said in their reunion show that he thought that was the right decision and more realistic.
When they were reading to each other in hammocks on the boat ❤️⛵️📚
I'm glad Joey had her time with both boys as both relationships were special. There's this soulmate aspect with Dawson but Pacey was the love of her life. I'm thrilled she ended up with Pacey! I began getting pissed at Dawson not "seeing" Joey towards the end of the 1st season and when that episode came along where they flirted at her with Pacey, I began rooting for them to be together. I actually never expected for it to happen in future seasons as it did but I was hooping and hollering with delight!!
I’m rewatching the show again now and it pains me to see them apart because I know they’ll end up together again!!
Loved these two together. Best TV couple definitely❤️
"I remember everything" NAILED IT!
I’ve rewatched season 4 like 5 times. It’s the best Pacey and Joey season
One of the best couples in TV history!
"You got to learn how to read between the banter" should of made the list
Best tv show couple EVER!!!!
Joey and Pacey are my favorite couple ever.
I love that he rebuilt her father's restaurant ❤
I was waiting for this, yeeees
This list is everything!!!!!!!! Pace & Joey forever ❤️
buffy & angel and Pacey & Joey were best couples ever and on same night on wb - the new tuesday was my must see tgif.
I missed their spaghetti fight and Pacey watching Joey sleep
What about when Pacey was watching her sleep in the living room with the fire place on?
Dawson: "Your free, do what you want" takes off to Pacey
Pacey: "Your off the hook" tells Pacey (in offscreenville) he's the one
The words both use perfectly describe why Pacey is the better man. Your free represents her being some sort of prisoner. His property. Letting her off the hook simply means he wants her to know that she shouldn't feel troubled by any feelings or decisions she thinks she has to make when it comes to him. He can move on and she can move on too without feeling any sort of guilt or doubt that he's waiting for something or that she should be weighted down by his feelings for her, hence adding that the simple act of loving her is enough for him (he doesn't actually have to be with her).
“I remember everything” tops the happy ending IMO
Facts!
Joey and Pacey for ever!!!❤❤❤❤
I loved them
I've been waiting for this and didn't even know I was waiting for this
The Hero did get the girl......
Edit: how the hell did that prom episode make it in here??? It was such a cop out and total nonsense to appease Dawson & Joey shippers at the time
MsInterestedParty it was memorable.
Miranda ramirez honestly not to me. What you remember about the third and fourth season of Dawson’s creek is not that episode you remember what Pacey whispered to her on the dance floor or the kiss at aunt Gwen’s house or even Dawson dating Gretchen. You don’t remember what was clearly pandering and a completely out of left field turn of events. Just look years later we aren’t talking about their break up we are talking about their relationship. At least that’s how I see it!
I have the whole series on DVD. And watched maybe 4 months ago. And personally I do believe that big break up was a big moment for Pacey and Joey.
Miranda ramirez I mean that’s cool? We are all allowed our own opinions. Also I have been rewatching this series for quite some time, I don’t really think that matters in the context of this discussion. Even if a person didn’t own the dvds and only watched the reruns on the TBS they could still weigh in on what was memorable. Having an opinion is awesome treating it like it’s fact not as so much. Have a good one!
The prom episode doesn't exist so no idea what you're talking about, #7 was Pacey buying Joey a wall, surely...
My favorite couple ever 💜
Quick question though how did the one scene that most P/J fans want to forget end up on the list? But no mention of when Pacey first shows Joey her wall?
and the kiss on the dance floor at Dawson
mother 's wedding? and he watching her sleeping next to the fireplace? it's when he realized he is in love with her.
Pacey watching her sleep by the fireside.
Pacey counting before kiss.
This 2 moment are very romantic.
I love this beautiful couple!!! 🥰🥰🥰
"You bought me a wall?"
Joey and Pacey for life!!!
This was the ultimate couple. Joey and Dawson was off.
Ive watched the show twice now. Just to see Joshua Jackson 😍 Fringe is another show with him and its amazing as well.
More of this please
I’m glad these two ended up together, but at the same time, i wanted Dawson to end up with Gretchen or Jen
Top ten Naley moments next please
He deserved neither one of them.
MsFriendsfan4ever I imagine Jen more than Gretchen. But at the same time, I would've loved to see Jack and Jen end up together. If he wasn't gay of course 😂
Whitney Moreau: I would have loved it if Jack and Jen had ended up together. Unfortunately, it wasn't meant to be. :(
Whitney Moreau Of course if Jack wasn’t gay then he and Jen would be totallly perfect for eachother, but Jen and Dawson had such powerful chemistry, and with Gretchen we saw a different side to Dawson, one that was considered and nice and understanding, the only thing standing in the way of Dawson and Gretchen was the age difference, but give and take a few years and the age difference wouldn’t have mattered.
MsFriendsfan4ever I like Gretchen but at the same time I think the writers tried too hard with them. Like for some reason Dawson just had to date Pacey's sister while Pacey is dating his ex/best friend. It's like they were trying too hard to create conflict. I like her as an actress and I like her character. Her relationship with Dawson was a bit blah to me.
The Promicide episode never made sense to me, when did Joey ever treat Pacey like he was worthless, she was the only one who ever stood up for him.
Basically pacey was saying(out of anger and insecurity) that when he's around Joey, he feels inadequate and like their relationship is destined for failure because of it.
It was such a cop out from the writers, and even if they could justify breaking them up for that reason, having Pacey yell at her and shame her in front of their entire prom just made NO sense, he'd never have done that. Not in public.
@@everythingshiny yeah it was out of character of pacey..he is one of the kindedt soul...forced break up for the story ahead
No, it's Andie. Joey makes Pacey insecure. Because of her lies, because of her hesitations, and because Pacey knew, in his heart, that a part of Joey will always Dawson. At this point, he can't accept that.
@@clauderain312 Andie cheated on Pacey and lied about it.
One of the few shows that actually did the ending right.
The k-Mart ep was the BEST
omg i'm binge watching it now. throwback to high school!!!
Always been #teamPacey!!
Yas!!!!! Jacey forever!! This is what I was waiting for
so...i have never watched dawsons creek but im going to for these two i already ship it lol
I ship for these two. 😍😍
My favorite seances are five and four. Also I love “shoulder to cry on.”