What's the worst is knowing that Joost was 100% willing to solve things by talking to the woman and apologising and seeking a less dramatic solution. But the camerawoman refused this. I smell something fishy with her.
I totally agree. Can't imagine the organisation is this unprofessional. There seem to be other forces involved. It was a dangerous, so expensive choise te invite Israel. There was no transparancy at all and the censorship in the comments on UA-cam was stunning, almost like Russia. For me, Joost should have won. But I also agree the act of Nemo was amazing. Boycot the € ## festival next year. Teach them a lesson!
People of the Netherlands are now saying that Joost Klein deserves to perform the song again on eurovision 2025 to do his act justice. Though I don't know if Joost himself wants it anymore after what they did to his dream, I do think that if the EBU allows this request they can redeem themself a bit. But we Dutch people will never forget this.
The national radio NPO2 was transmitting Europapa from 9 till 10pm on Saturday 💙Joost is such a nice person and this woman showed very unacceptable behaviour #justiceforjoost💙
Thank you so much Paul,, So many statements have been made by countries/artists. Examples on stages -Estonia said “thank you” to the audience instead of thank you -a Spanish dancer had Joost on his stomach (was in green room). - -Ireland said Europapa somewhere when she was on stage. This has been taken out -between songs 4 and 6 the entire audience shouted Europapa (5 was Joost's place). Then Israel stepped up and it indeed turned into booing, Joost was second place int the semifinal so, greets annamrie Netherlands
The EBU could just show us the situation.. i think everyone knows this stinks. I would bet the EBU refused to give the 'tapes' to the police. As a F1 watcher, i thought the FIA was selective with their penaltys.
@demo-critus It does feel like that indeed, I would even say it feels much worse because Joost didn’t even get a chance to compete, due to the staggering incompetence and hypocracy of the EBU.
Why is no one talking about the fact that this happened in Sweden so that you have to deal with Swedish law and culture (and Martin Österdahl is also a Swede). Sweden is ridiculously strict with this kind of thing - look at someone askance and you can be prosecuted for threats or intimidation ("olaga hot" in Swedish). In the Netherlands they would have come up with a rational, harmonious solution; in Italy it would have been laughed off; but now it happened in Sweden and you have a big problem. (However, Joost was not arrested, he may leave the country and the prosecutor is not in any hurry, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a tempest in a Swedish tea cup - which would be a big problem for the EBU maffia and Kim-Jong Österdahl.)
Joost went out to greet his fans after the finals and took pictures with them and talked to them. He also is back in the Netherlands. He was and probably still is very sad but looks to be doing “okay”. The Netherlands are very angry and most ppl have said they don’t want the Netherlands to participate in Eurovision anymore because of what happened (unless something will change). The EBU had no reason to disqualify him, instead they should’ve let him participate and later disqualify if there was proof a crime was committed. Let’s just say we are very angry for Joost. Dutch ppl who had tickets even had to give away their flags at security bc apparently you’re “only allowed to have flags of countries that are participating” so that also didn’t go down very well of course.
Nemo is a fantastic winner but Netherlands should have been in the lineup. Disqualification could have been prevented. Switzerland would most likely won just the same. Not sure if we are still going to be there.
Love your comment Paul! . I think he waits with a reaction not to frustrate the proces. He's really sad about it. There was a lot going on politically, EBU was under pressure. Time will tell
Dont worry :) If the conclusion of the police report is that Joost did not do anything wrong The netherlands (Avro Tross) wil sue euro vision . We lost like 500.000 euro's so we will sue the ebu !!!!
MoroccanOil the sponsor all over the Songfestival: The brand was founded in 2006 by Carmen Tal and her husband, Ofer Tal. The parent company of MoroccanOil is Moroccanoil Inc., based in Israel. Carmen Tal, originally from Israel, founded the brand after experiencing a hair mishap while on vacation in Israel. She encountered a hair treatment made with argan oil, which not only repaired her damaged hair but also transformed it into lustrous and healthy locks. Inspired by this transformative experience, Carmen and her husband partnered with a group of entrepreneurs to create MoroccanOil and bring the benefits of argan oil to a wider audience.
So I just heard that the camera fell and broke, so he must have pushed the camera away. And she most definately didn't hold it correctly either then. It's just a coverup now in my opinion
I think he will feel honored to fullfill his dream in another way when he's asked to perform on other big stages in the world. He is admired by way more people than just those in Europe. Maybe he can change the text of the song a bit somehow to apply it to the whole world and to be able to forget and leave behind what happened during the ESC. Better yet, he will laugh at the organization of this event if he succeeds in conquering the rest of the world with this song. And maybe the Dutch language can make a name for itself this way as well. German already works overseas, so why can't Dutch also work?
Joost has let us know that he is in a good place. He had a wonderful evening, yesterday. The EBU had give him free seat on row 42. Why he was allowed to be there while he is suppose to be threatening someone woth a move, is a bog sign to me. All this, while the EBU said they want to protect and back the woman employee.. 😅
The EBU will regret their actions, if Joost Klein is not Guilty the Netherlands will take legal action and want all their money back till the last penny. Israël is behind all this.
So you guys want a proof about the incident with the camera person, which is totally reasonable, but claiming unproven false claims, this is not a problem for you, right? Ask for proofs or spread BS, whatever is convenient for you.
They must make a complain about this woman. She did not respect the rules they made before the performance. They agreed not to film Joost when he did his performance. But she put the camera under his nose just after his performance in the semi final. And after repeatedly asking not to film, she did not respect the agreement and his wishes. We are robbed from a victory this year. I hope we don't participatie anymore until there is a new management at the EBU. #justiceforjoost
EBU=big & powerful corporation, Joost is just an simple artist from a small European country known to be blunt and frank, and expressive/direct. Eden Golan had so much media training, to be as gracefull as she was with the "Why not?" moment. Joost was not, why should he be, his country is not doing a [bleep], ICC has also had it's lesser popular verdicts towards the actions of Israel, but not the power to do something. USA does, but too little too late, and Bibi even called Joe a [Bleep terror-ist] supporter when he condemned the Ra-fah attack.
@@bertoverweel6588Maybe not all, but francness is in our DNA. Foreigners may call that blunt. We call it: direct or to the point. It expresses honesty: what you see is what you get.
The EBU needs to be sued out of existence. The lie, it's all about the music .. no, it's all about the politics. Joost should have won .. he was got rid of (how much did Israel pay?).
your videos are being deleted because you contradict the EBU in your videos. there was an incident with a CAMERA woman, where are the images? then we can all judge
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What's the worst is knowing that Joost was 100% willing to solve things by talking to the woman and apologising and seeking a less dramatic solution. But the camerawoman refused this. I smell something fishy with her.
Maybe she is Israël women. 😅
I heard that it was Karen peles from the Isreal delegation that was filming she wrote hurricane
But don’t know if it’s true it was her
@@ninakiewiet it is... 🤔
@@aorta538Where you there? It's all rumours, nobody really knows!
I totally agree. Can't imagine the organisation is this unprofessional. There seem to be other forces involved. It was a dangerous, so expensive choise te invite Israel. There was no transparancy at all and the censorship in the comments on UA-cam was stunning, almost like Russia. For me, Joost should have won. But I also agree the act of Nemo was amazing. Boycot the € ## festival next year. Teach them a lesson!
People of the Netherlands are now saying that Joost Klein deserves to perform the song again on eurovision 2025 to do his act justice. Though I don't know if Joost himself wants it anymore after what they did to his dream, I do think that if the EBU allows this request they can redeem themself a bit. But we Dutch people will never forget this.
none of us will forget this, what happened to the "innocent until proven quilty"
If Eurovision doesn’t accept this we won’t be going next year simple as that🇳🇱💙
He will win this war in the end. His song will be very polulair this summer all over Europa(pa)
And lost of succes ....and new stage for the men.,
Thank you so much for your kind and honest comment 🙏 there is no justice in disqualifying Joost…this whole matter stinks…
Thank you for this video.. Thank you for showing what the dream wouldve been like.
❤️
Thnx for this upload and speaking the truth ,we still all verry sad!!
I felt so sorry for him :( PLS STREAM EUROPAPA LET HIM HAVE THE SUCCESS HE DESERVED
....he didn't deserve nothing with that kind of behaviour!..... period!...
nobody can take this from the netherlands ? EBU : GONE
Joost EuroPapa Peoples Champ! 🇪🇺 🕺 🇳🇱
You being on our side is a bit like therapy.
The national radio NPO2 was transmitting Europapa from 9 till 10pm on Saturday 💙Joost is such a nice person and this woman showed very unacceptable behaviour #justiceforjoost💙
Thank you so much Paul,, So many statements have been made by countries/artists. Examples on stages
-Estonia said “thank you” to the audience instead of thank you
-a Spanish dancer had Joost on his stomach (was in green room).
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-Ireland said Europapa somewhere when she was on stage. This has been taken out
-between songs 4 and 6 the entire audience shouted Europapa (5 was Joost's place).
Then Israel stepped up and it indeed turned into booing, Joost was second place int the semifinal so, greets annamrie Netherlands
You say that sweden and croatia did not performe in the final?
@@jeremymusic18dress rehearsal
@@jeremymusic18 dress rehearsal, sorry I am not clear ,I will add
I love your video! I was so sad Saturday for Joost! He deserved to win with all the happiness he gave the world with this song and his performance💙
Thank you .. 🙏
The EBU could just show us the situation.. i think everyone knows this stinks. I would bet the EBU refused to give the 'tapes' to the police.
As a F1 watcher, i thought the FIA was selective with their penaltys.
we immediately said this is worse than the FIA xD
@@DorkieShorty haha, lol!
It feels just like when the Netherlands loses the World Cup (football) final - something many Dutchmen have experienced three times already 😞
@demo-critus It does feel like that indeed, I would even say it feels much worse because Joost didn’t even get a chance to compete, due to the staggering incompetence and hypocracy of the EBU.
Why is no one talking about the fact that this happened in Sweden so that you have to deal with Swedish law and culture (and Martin Österdahl is also a Swede). Sweden is ridiculously strict with this kind of thing - look at someone askance and you can be prosecuted for threats or intimidation ("olaga hot" in Swedish). In the Netherlands they would have come up with a rational, harmonious solution; in Italy it would have been laughed off; but now it happened in Sweden and you have a big problem. (However, Joost was not arrested, he may leave the country and the prosecutor is not in any hurry, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a tempest in a Swedish tea cup - which would be a big problem for the EBU maffia and Kim-Jong Österdahl.)
He already arrived back in the Netherlands yesterday evening
Kim-Jong ..!? 😂😂😂
I was right. The Swedish prosecutor has dropped the case a few months later due to lack of evidence… And still the EBU Maffia won’t apologise.
Thanx 😢
💔
Who is never going to hurt someone....Yes❤
Joost went out to greet his fans after the finals and took pictures with them and talked to them. He also is back in the Netherlands. He was and probably still is very sad but looks to be doing “okay”. The Netherlands are very angry and most ppl have said they don’t want the Netherlands to participate in Eurovision anymore because of what happened (unless something will change). The EBU had no reason to disqualify him, instead they should’ve let him participate and later disqualify if there was proof a crime was committed. Let’s just say we are very angry for Joost. Dutch ppl who had tickets even had to give away their flags at security bc apparently you’re “only allowed to have flags of countries that are participating” so that also didn’t go down very well of course.
Why not let Joost Klein preform and disqualify him after the show when you got all the facts.
Exactly!!! That’s how was supposed to be ❤
your so right!!!!!!!!
Thank you still sad about it
Shame on you ebu
Nemo is a fantastic winner but Netherlands should have been in the lineup. Disqualification could have been prevented. Switzerland would most likely won just the same. Not sure if we are still going to be there.
... be there next year I mean. Perhaps we should skip a year. After 2 days this still gives me headaches. Stupid but true.
#justiceforjoost
Love your comment Paul! . I think he waits with a reaction not to frustrate the proces. He's really sad about it. There was a lot going on politically, EBU was under pressure. Time will tell
Joost Klein ❤
Dont worry :) If the conclusion of the police report is that Joost did not do anything wrong The netherlands (Avro Tross) wil sue euro vision . We lost like 500.000 euro's so we will sue the ebu !!!!
Thank you! #justiceforjoost
I am pretty sure we will see Joost next year. If not as a competitor, than as the main act.
I’m pretty sure Joost will never ever want anything to do anymore with the EBU.
Makes me even more angry.
MoroccanOil the sponsor all over the Songfestival: The brand was founded in 2006 by Carmen Tal and her husband, Ofer Tal. The parent company of MoroccanOil is Moroccanoil Inc., based in Israel. Carmen Tal, originally from Israel, founded the brand after experiencing a hair mishap while on vacation in Israel. She encountered a hair treatment made with argan oil, which not only repaired her damaged hair but also transformed it into lustrous and healthy locks. Inspired by this transformative experience, Carmen and her husband partnered with a group of entrepreneurs to create MoroccanOil and bring the benefits of argan oil to a wider audience.
😂...how sweet 😊
So I just heard that the camera fell and broke, so he must have pushed the camera away. And she most definately didn't hold it correctly either then. It's just a coverup now in my opinion
I think he will feel honored to fullfill his dream in another way when he's asked to perform on other big stages in the world. He is admired by way more people than just those in Europe. Maybe he can change the text of the song a bit somehow to apply it to the whole world and to be able to forget and leave behind what happened during the ESC. Better yet, he will laugh at the organization of this event if he succeeds in conquering the rest of the world with this song. And maybe the Dutch language can make a name for itself this way as well. German already works overseas, so why can't Dutch also work?
Joost has let us know that he is in a good place. He had a wonderful evening, yesterday. The EBU had give him free seat on row 42.
Why he was allowed to be there while he is suppose to be threatening someone woth a move, is a bog sign to me. All this, while the EBU said they want to protect and back the woman employee.. 😅
Wel oplettenJasper! Je bron (Nieuwspaal) is een verzameling met humoristische, doorgaans sarcastische onzinberichten.
@@stefaniestef819 haha, was kennelijk niet wakker 🤣🤣
Switzerland should give the trophy back and start over! it is unacceptable.
Switzerland was the best either way, but Europapa could have been top 5
@@barbarabreunis7788 I would say first place or second.
The EBU will regret their actions, if Joost Klein is not Guilty the Netherlands will take legal action and want all their money back till the last penny. Israël is behind all this.
The Netherlands will not take actions, they are pussy’s✌️🇳🇱
What about the youtube money that EBU took with their channel. If not for them this would be revenue for Joost directly as he's also a UA-camr.
@@buckluny4030 The money the Netherlands payed is taxe money from citizens, the EBU pist of not just Joost Klein but also our country.
@Yt699Dutch every cent payed in this
So you guys want a proof about the incident with the camera person, which is totally reasonable, but claiming unproven false claims, this is not a problem for you, right? Ask for proofs or spread BS, whatever is convenient for you.
4:07 Thank you ! 🫶
They must make a complain about this woman. She did not respect the rules they made before the performance. They agreed not to film Joost when he did his performance. But she put the camera under his nose just after his performance in the semi final. And after repeatedly asking not to film, she did not respect the agreement and his wishes. We are robbed from a victory this year. I hope we don't participatie anymore until there is a new management at the EBU. #justiceforjoost
EBU=big & powerful corporation, Joost is just an simple artist from a small European country known to be blunt and frank, and expressive/direct.
Eden Golan had so much media training, to be as gracefull as she was with the "Why not?" moment. Joost was not, why should he be, his country is not doing a [bleep], ICC has also had it's lesser popular verdicts towards the actions of Israel, but not the power to do something. USA does, but too little too late, and Bibi even called Joe a [Bleep terror-ist] supporter when he condemned the Ra-fah attack.
All Dutch people are frank and direct.
@@bertoverweel6588Maybe not all, but francness is in our DNA. Foreigners may call that blunt. We call it: direct or to the point. It expresses honesty: what you see is what you get.
#freejoost
The EBU needs to be sued out of existence. The lie, it's all about the music .. no, it's all about the politics. Joost should have won .. he was got rid of (how much did Israel pay?).
Where is the so callt victom? Video recordings to prove? Show us what happend? Or are you affraid?
Appreciate the notion but this just makes it hurt even more 😢
indeed, it's very interesting your videos are getting blocked, especially when you're talking about this song.....
your videos are being deleted because you contradict the EBU in your videos. there was an incident with a CAMERA woman, where are the images? then we can all judge
France's song is also blocked worldwide, not sure why
@@DACHBeneluxthe speech he did perhaps
This was the verry best ....but a very sad ....disappointment
I real life😢
EBU did, .......
the good ending
Hallo last century EBU 🙈🤡🤡🤡
Eurovision is gone forever, indeed
Twitter Bird 🐦 on keyboards 🎹 😅
The whole thing feels soo shady..
Suspended!!!🤬
even austria would done better than joost´s mallorca like song. so primitive
he did not follow the rules if he wanted it so badly he should of said nothing and nothing would not have happened
Oh, so you've worked for Harvey?
it was a contest and he knew there were rules
"nothing would not have happened" ?
This was very kind of you🙏💔