I should say that you don't *have* to play all basic mountains. Throwing in some utility lands is optimal, all basics is just funnier (and helps keep the price down for the budget).
This deck probably wouldn't work in commander proper because of 4 player and only one attack per turn. There is a mono black version that uses the commander to tutor for ad nauseam, then do zombie hunt things.
@@aaronscott7467 hmmm maybe you could do something similar deck with Kediss as commander (find a partner of your choosing) and possibly other cards that do similar things to laelia
@ectopicEye knowing this makes it even better that saffron olive heartily chuckled his way through that match. "What's opponent doing over there, idk some alchemy stuff" lmao
I shalk simply play a deck full of 20+ removal/counterspells to make sure this doesn't happen, and - oops! it looks like I've turned yet another commander into a control deck.
Brawl has gotten so worse in the last two years... I used to spend hours every day playing Brawl, now I barely play one hour a week, simply because of how the queue is managed.... as you said, when you can't play a fair game without the broken omniscience or ultimatum bullshit, bringing a janky deck to the queue is for those who enjoy the Defeat pop-up
stuffing your deck full of remova and a few value engines l is by far the strongest deck in brawl, btw. you can shoot down the majority of decks by just removing a couple things. I remember when The Prismatic Bridge was by far the most popular deck in brawl, and it folded 100% of the time if you had a way to remove the bridge.
@@baconthegatewaymeat9131 Started playing it this month with the new meteoric mace and a few nonbasic lands that draw, cycle, scry, seek a nonland and, most importantly, discover (also fetches to find the gate mountain more consistently). Never lost to not finding the combo (but lost a lot to removal and counters)
I've seen this deck 3 times today. Got me the first time. The next two I held removal until after etali's favor was on the battlefield. Havent lost since
if you're playing this on arena, it's probably smart to run that, the gate that lets you seek a nonland card, and maybe even some other non-basics like cavern or plaza of heroes
Where in the world do you find these Brawl players that don't run any removal? If I were to take this deck into the brawl queue I'd never be allowed to have a creature on the field EVER.
@@christopheranderson8311it's is legitimate to be either very aggro/combo or run lots of removal/counters since basically 4 out of 5 commander are kill on sight ones
Upgrades to this: Hidden Volcano as a 6th discover, Fast//Furious and hearth elemental are probably a better 1 card hand than mountain, and they don't mess with the discover. Apart from that, i think lands with abilities and cycling cards with mana value above 5 could help a bit, but not much.
Especially with a high variance (jank, sorry lol) deck like this, I always just go for the win. You give them the opportunity to draw into an answer by waiting. They have it or they don't, you got one shot. One opportunity. Lose yourself! LOL
Love it! Very quick, easy wins if you don't have time to play something more involved for dailies. While I get that the video was going for the draw of "only basic lands", a few fairly budget lands really help out the combo and don't interfere with it at all: *Hidden Volcano (C) - expensive, but discover on a land *Gate to Tumbledown (U) - seeks a nonland card Other lands that have some good use but not quite as direct as the above: *Desert of the Fervent and Forgotten Cave (C) - both have cycling in monored *Forsaken Crossroads (R), The Grey Havens (U) and Zhalfirin Void (U) - ETB scry on a land legal for monored *Geier Reach Santirium (R) - more draw for monored *Plaza of Heroes (R) - protection for Laelia if you're waiting to draw a combo piece *Radiant Fountain (C) - little bit of lifegain while you wait *Sunken Citadel (R) - works well if you end up needing to use Volcano or Tumbledown to get things going The biggest issue with the Tumbledown and Volcano lines is that they both effectively require 5/6 mana in order to seek/discover, meaning you have to survive long enough to pull it off. Not impossible, especially at the tier of brawl that Laelia is in, but will be tricky against some decks.
I've faced this deck eight times today and won every time. Once you know what they're doing you just have to be willing to mulligan a few times yourself to find a single early interactive spell.
I just calculated the odds of hitting at least one of the five cards in your starting hand with a possible Mulligan to one: In 83.54% of the games you start out with at least one of the cards in your hand, so your 75% winrate with one opponent having interaction checks out. Also, if you don't hit any of the cards and Mulligan to one, you have a chance of about 50% to hit one in the next 12 cards.
SETH!! Hahaha I built this deck right after you put out the video and it does surprisingly well and is soooo janky which I love lol. Thanks for adding some fun into the arena 😊
Fortunately, this deck probably can't be super unhealthy for the format - you basically just need to mulligan for early game interaction the instant you see a Laelia and you should be fine 90% of the time
I changed up the lands, added a few more cascade cards and built/bought this deck within an hour of this video. So goofy and fun. Great way to relax after complex commander games. Thanks Seth for the inspiration.
Putting a lot of utility lands in could make it more consistent. Arch of Orazca, Blast Zone, Branch of Vitu-Ghazi, Crawling Barrens, Den of the Bugbear, Dwarven Mine, Faceless Haven (with Snow Basics), Gate to Tumbledown, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Hidden Volcano, Labyrinth of Skophos, Mishra's Foundry, Mobilized District, Mutavault and Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance all slot in without disrupting the discover combo but give extra card draw, attackers, ways to find cards to cast, etc
On mulligan to specific card decks, i made an old stickfingers deck that wanted any reanimation spell. Old stickfingers can always get cultivator colossus, and you can just put a small arbitrary number of fun and probably mana heavy and recursive powerfull cards. The nice thing is that it doesn't need the ginourmous cultivator colossus it produces to survive, since it just ramps 30 lands and redraws your hand. If it's not exiled you can prbably do it again too. It was pretty fun, and when i made it the cheapest reanimate spell in brawl was 5 mana
I think something else thats helping this deck right now is people not understanding the interaction between it and cascade when they just read the card, ecause it says 1 or more on the card they think a cascade spell is only 1 counter bgecause you exile multiple cards at the same time, not realising that every card is a seperate trigger jsut because cascade requires you to check after every card is exiled. some of those opponents probably saw you only had 1 or 2 cards in hand and thought weell no matter what they cast it cant get more than a couple of counters so it will be fine to not leave up removal, you only have to see this interaction once to learn
I know it’s obvious from this side of things, but if your opponent is mulliganing down to 2 or 3 cards shouldn’t that just raise every red flags imaginable?
Ended up playing against this deck today! And can attest to the fact that it loses to any and all interaction. Was playing a self mill deck, cut down won me the game.
I just built this, I feel awful. As someone who just started playing Arena, this feels like an excellent way to just make sure you're hitting your daily's without investing too many wildcards, but damn it feels bad to steamroll people who are just trying to actually play Magic.
I used to play a game called Eternal Card Game (designed by LSV and Patrick Chapin) and the mulligan for that system guaranteed between 2 and 5 lands and spells in each hand. There was a deck at one point that would include the minimum number of spells allowed which would force the shuffler to give you at least 2 really good cards every game. And there was a card that was functionally "Leyline of Lava Axe". So you would just hope to dome them for half of their life in the first turn then finish it off with a red aggro plan. It was never a very competitive deck, but it reminds me a lot of this.
I've been playing this deck as I've been getting back into arena. Even though it is an all or none style deck, I'm currently 8-3 with it. It is hilarious. The mirror match comes down to who goes first and has a discover spell in hand. I'm grinding packs with this deck, it is great
I just tried this deck, my first opponent cast Gyruda turn 3 and milled my etali's favor. I stuck with it and managed to win by discovering into daring discovery and stopping his blocks.
Thanks, I really didn't need people trying to play this without knowing when they are cooked... I've seen a few Laelia recently, and the most recent one mulligan to 1, didn't seem to grasp Overwhelming Splendor was enough to neuter the entire deck, and even wanted to play a few turns with Ethereal Absolution in play as well.
I've been experimenting with a laelia domain control deck for a while and it's quite fun and successful. I run a lot of 4-6 mana board sweeps, some cards to ramp up my lands, some tutors, some deck/hand exile cards, plenty of discover, some plainswalkers, and about 125 lands. Deck is maxed out for arena at 250 cards.
It's crazy I think I mentioned playing the deck a month ago, something about Laelia is hilarious with Discover. I'm glad its gonna spread like wildfire now lmao. Great games!
This deck can also play spells with a mana value of 5 and up. The build I put together after getting memed on about a week ago has a ton of cyclers and cards like Hearth Elemental, Fast//Furious, etc. that technically have a huge MV but can be cast for cheaper that all dig for discover/cascade hits. Hidden Volcano is also a huge one in the manabase!
I saw this deck for the first time earlier tonight and I had looked away when they comboed out and couldn't for the life of me reverse engineer how she had gotten so huge until a couple minutes of looking the board over after losing lol. Immediately went and bought packs until I got a rare wild card so I could make this for myself
Commander does have a lot more cascade/discover cards; but on the flip side, you have three opponents, so the chance of someone having removal is higher, and you can only kill one of them per turn, so even after possibly surprise-killing the first one, Laelia needs to survive a collective three full turns from your opponents.
@@FoxoqNah; all the extra cards exiled by Cascade or Discover get put back on the bottom of the library; they don't stay in exile. It would be a VERY different mechanic in practice if they did.
Just had a fun match with this deck against a Windgrace deck on the draw. Turn one they played Riveteer's Outlook Turn two they played Elvish Reclaimer. Turn three they went "Good Game" and played Stone Rain. Turn four they played Rubble Reading. Turn five they played Windgrace. Turn five I played Laelia. Turn six played Throes of Chaos and they conscede after Etali's Favor hit the board. I love that someone who played land destruction and got off to a fairly reasonable start had to just give up. Of course, right after that match I run into someone who hit me with Cyclonic Rift after a turn 4 Etali's Favor, which the deck can't recover from (no way to trample through).
Built it in paper was able to add several cascade cards which helps with the mulligan simulator. It functions but may be praying for a top deck after some removal. My favorite add is “Let the galaxy burn” from warhammer precon. It really describes playing the deck. You should do it for commander clash
While the odds won't be perfect - its roughly a 31% chance you'd start with at least 1 of the 5 cards in your starting hand before you muligan. Math on a winnable hand gets weirder once you get past the starting hand due to branching conditions, so for simplicity i'll just be sticking to the opening ones. Muligan math also gets weird due to the same basis behind drawing getting weird once you get below 6, so for that same reason i'll just be sticking to the keep 7 and keep 6 for this. With the mull to 6, the odds of seeing at least 1 of the 5 shoot up to 51%
I Been Encountering A Few Laelia Decks And I Have Started To Make Sure I Have Some Type Of Removal/Counter/Can't Attack Card In My Hand When I Go Against Them. Or Disenchant And 1 Blocker.
Vlade Divac such an old reference, he was a great basketball player (one of if not the best around 1997) and from my country too. Won a bunch of medals while playing nationally and for the NBA as well.
I played against someone playing this on brawl when I was doing Etrata, Deadly Fugitive shaenanigans. I won by holding up removal the entire game while etrata hit in for value
My 90+ land deck is Esika, God of the Tree. Except its really a planar bridge deck. The only card in the deck bridge can find is Cultivator Colossus. The remaining non-land slots are Banefire and ways to protect the Colossus and ourselves until we win.
arena was extremely kind to you. I have a codie deck, and always cast it on turn 2 (with dorks), but EVERY opponent has removal to kill it before I can untap on turn 3.
You can maybe trick the hand smoother into giving you better hands by adding a few cards with MV > whatever your highest discover value is. Currently your land percentage is so high that given two hands, one with 6 lands and a spell and one with 7 lands, the smoother will choose the 7 land hand because 100% lands is closer to your deck's composition than 85.7% lands. Also, the red discover cave is a no-brainer that the deck should be playing. Also, also, like your last Laelia meme deck, there may be non-meme applications of this interaction. Laelia will be legal in Modern as of MH3 and may be playable in Rhinos decks there if a baseline okay beater of a 3-drop that becomes roughly a 20/20 when you do your thing is good. She may also be interesting in Rhino decks in Historic (Rhinos will not be playable in Timeless unless they add the good cascade cards), though she creates a risk for every Cascade/Discover card in the format with the exception of Bloodbraid Marauder (or Scalesoul Gnome hitting for less than 3 or triggering Pantlaza with a small butt, highish MV dino, most likely a Faceless Agent or deliberately not taking the discover until the eggs come down off a Palani's Hatcher) missing the Rhinos.
this reminds me of a commander deck I played again with the commanders the war doctor and Ryan Sinclair. the deck will run only land and when ryan exiles to find the nonland that is not there it will put a time counter on the war doctor allowing to kill a player as soon as it attacks.
This deck needs a few of those 4 mana “discard 1 draw two” cards that wizards has printed several functional reprints of. Unexpected windfall or whatever
I should say that you don't *have* to play all basic mountains. Throwing in some utility lands is optimal, all basics is just funnier (and helps keep the price down for the budget).
What is the email I can send a deck list to for commander clash?
Yes, there are plenty of lands that will slightly increase the chance of top-decking your wincon in case you mulled to 1.
It should have the cascade land at least, like, if any utility land, it should be that one
This deck probably wouldn't work in commander proper because of 4 player and only one attack per turn. There is a mono black version that uses the commander to tutor for ad nauseam, then do zombie hunt things.
@@aaronscott7467 hmmm maybe you could do something similar deck with Kediss as commander (find a partner of your choosing) and possibly other cards that do similar things to laelia
I love how a single video can influence the entire brawl meta
I have seen this deck so many times today since watching this video but never before 😂
@@Klingles I only saw it once and I accidentally left up swords so i didnt even know what I avoided until now 😂
I play very little and faced this deck 3 times yesterday, didn't see the video until now lol
I mean to be fair 99% of this deck is standard so its a 1 card craft for most
Yeah, I now just quit the match when I see Laelia. It's not worth it.
Nothing warms my heart more than watching the myth weaver pog player scooping to a creature bigger than theirs
LMAO WELL DESERVED
his name was literally "i win or i report you " :D
I enjoyed it so much that I also went and built the deck and now I'm smashing those poq players.
@ectopicEye knowing this makes it even better that saffron olive heartily chuckled his way through that match. "What's opponent doing over there, idk some alchemy stuff"
lmao
My. Favorite way to beat Poq decks is elfball. Far too many Poq players are light on removal and Marwyn snowballs so much harder than Poq
Love that cascade and discover are continuing to be fair and balanced mechanics
Sometimes you don't have removal, and you die. Welcome to brawl.
or you do have removal, think that going shields down for a prime time isn't going to kill you, then you die. True story.
I shalk simply play a deck full of 20+ removal/counterspells to make sure this doesn't happen, and - oops! it looks like I've turned yet another commander into a control deck.
Brawl has gotten so worse in the last two years... I used to spend hours every day playing Brawl, now I barely play one hour a week, simply because of how the queue is managed.... as you said, when you can't play a fair game without the broken omniscience or ultimatum bullshit, bringing a janky deck to the queue is for those who enjoy the Defeat pop-up
stuffing your deck full of remova and a few value engines l is by far the strongest deck in brawl, btw. you can shoot down the majority of decks by just removing a couple things.
I remember when The Prismatic Bridge was by far the most popular deck in brawl, and it folded 100% of the time if you had a way to remove the bridge.
The first time I got hit with this combo on brawl I was so confused. It happened so fast I didn't get a chance to read the name of the cards lol
"Hopefully our oppenent will play his commander... and his reward for that will be SWIFT AND IMMEDIATE DEATH" I laughed so hard 😂
16:00 "I'm not going to read that Alchemy card... Instead, we're just going to kill our opponent."
This line spoke to my soul
Alchemy was the worst thing that could have happened to magic arena. Standard and Explorer are the only ways I enjoy Arena now.
@@fuzzyturtlez8994 Eh. Poq's a perfectly fair card.
I am very excited to play this in about two months once everyones forgotten about it
Have people forgotten about it yet?
@@baconthegatewaymeat9131 Started playing it this month with the new meteoric mace and a few nonbasic lands that draw, cycle, scry, seek a nonland and, most importantly, discover (also fetches to find the gate mountain more consistently). Never lost to not finding the combo (but lost a lot to removal and counters)
@@baconthegatewaymeat9131 Yeah, they have
I've seen this deck 3 times today. Got me the first time. The next two I held removal until after etali's favor was on the battlefield. Havent lost since
This entire deck is the ultimate, most realised, textbook goddamn definition of "Glass Cannon". I love it.
and how do you make glass? that's right! fire and rocks!
Why wouldn't we play the Red Discover Cave?
if you're playing this on arena, it's probably smart to run that, the gate that lets you seek a nonland card, and maybe even some other non-basics like cavern or plaza of heroes
94 mountains makes for a funny title lol
because we're stupid AF
Chimil, and Caldera Breaker?
Cavern is another good one, can also play some expensive cycling cards.
Hey. That’s my deck. :3
Posted it a few weeks ago on Reddit. And now I regularly run into them. XD I love it. :‘D
“They’re just tacoing aggressively” 😂😂😂😂
Where's that emote from? I've never seen it before.
@@Reelionit was from Zendikar Rising
Hate people who waste time like that, psychotic behavior
@@Stopbeingcringe3 Queuing with a coinflip deck like this Laelia deck also wastes time to the other player.
@@Igor369So what? It’s a game sometimes it happens just scoop and that’s it
I'm glad you explained the deck while showing off the combo.
Loved that editing
Where in the world do you find these Brawl players that don't run any removal? If I were to take this deck into the brawl queue I'd never be allowed to have a creature on the field EVER.
Yup. I think they dont show those matches because they wouldnt be fun to watch.
For real. I love brawl but I hate that every deck is 95% removal spells and a few cards for the theme.
@@christopheranderson8311blame that on the critical mass of combo pieces that snowball and win the game if you don't deal with them quickly.
@@christopheranderson8311it's is legitimate to be either very aggro/combo or run lots of removal/counters since basically 4 out of 5 commander are kill on sight ones
Well, I can't complain since I'm the one running black based brawl Deck 🤷🏻♂️
Time to pick out 94 unique art mountains 😂
If you make this in paper, the Unfinity space mountains are actually pretty cool looking.
Upgrades to this: Hidden Volcano as a 6th discover, Fast//Furious and hearth elemental are probably a better 1 card hand than mountain, and they don't mess with the discover. Apart from that, i think lands with abilities and cycling cards with mana value above 5 could help a bit, but not much.
Finally got my expected Vlade Divac shoutout in a Goldfish video
Especially with a high variance (jank, sorry lol) deck like this, I always just go for the win. You give them the opportunity to draw into an answer by waiting. They have it or they don't, you got one shot. One opportunity. Lose yourself! LOL
Love it! Very quick, easy wins if you don't have time to play something more involved for dailies. While I get that the video was going for the draw of "only basic lands", a few fairly budget lands really help out the combo and don't interfere with it at all:
*Hidden Volcano (C) - expensive, but discover on a land
*Gate to Tumbledown (U) - seeks a nonland card
Other lands that have some good use but not quite as direct as the above:
*Desert of the Fervent and Forgotten Cave (C) - both have cycling in monored
*Forsaken Crossroads (R), The Grey Havens (U) and Zhalfirin Void (U) - ETB scry on a land legal for monored
*Geier Reach Santirium (R) - more draw for monored
*Plaza of Heroes (R) - protection for Laelia if you're waiting to draw a combo piece
*Radiant Fountain (C) - little bit of lifegain while you wait
*Sunken Citadel (R) - works well if you end up needing to use Volcano or Tumbledown to get things going
The biggest issue with the Tumbledown and Volcano lines is that they both effectively require 5/6 mana in order to seek/discover, meaning you have to survive long enough to pull it off. Not impossible, especially at the tier of brawl that Laelia is in, but will be tricky against some decks.
This would be an AMAZING two headed giant deck. This one wins and the other one just 100% supports it
I've been playing Brawl today and have seen this deck so many times with so many players spamming GG. The goldfish fanbase might be a bit toxic
I've faced this deck eight times today and won every time. Once you know what they're doing you just have to be willing to mulligan a few times yourself to find a single early interactive spell.
Yeah, it's actually very easy to beat if you are expecting it.
I just calculated the odds of hitting at least one of the five cards in your starting hand with a possible Mulligan to one:
In 83.54% of the games you start out with at least one of the cards in your hand, so your 75% winrate with one opponent having interaction checks out.
Also, if you don't hit any of the cards and Mulligan to one, you have a chance of about 50% to hit one in the next 12 cards.
This made me laugh. I really needed it my day is horrible.
Hoping your day gets better!
If you cast Throes of Chaos, all the exiled cards go back in the deck, so Laelia can be almost a 200/00 (I just did this & got her to 175/175).
SETH!! Hahaha I built this deck right after you put out the video and it does surprisingly well and is soooo janky which I love lol. Thanks for adding some fun into the arena 😊
The stack clearing sounds so much like the frederator logo, I love it
"Slimes are sweet, but you know what's sweeter?" That tiny chuckle was absolutely mint.
Vlade Divac catchin strays on a random budget magic video haha. Not something I was expecting in 2024. Don't tell Crim!
Fortunately, this deck probably can't be super unhealthy for the format - you basically just need to mulligan for early game interaction the instant you see a Laelia and you should be fine 90% of the time
Literally lost to this 20 minutes ago, now I know what I need to build
Turn 3 attack can actually cost you the game if you exile Etali's Favor since you have no way to play it.
I changed up the lands, added a few more cascade cards and built/bought this deck within an hour of this video. So goofy and fun. Great way to relax after complex commander games. Thanks Seth for the inspiration.
Seems like a great deck to have in the toolbox for when you go on a losing streak and need some free wins for a pick me up
This perfectly captures why I find commander and brawl unappealing. Glad for you folks who enjoy them.
Putting a lot of utility lands in could make it more consistent. Arch of Orazca, Blast Zone, Branch of Vitu-Ghazi, Crawling Barrens, Den of the Bugbear, Dwarven Mine, Faceless Haven (with Snow Basics), Gate to Tumbledown, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Hidden Volcano, Labyrinth of Skophos, Mishra's Foundry, Mobilized District, Mutavault and Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance all slot in without disrupting the discover combo but give extra card draw, attackers, ways to find cards to cast, etc
On mulligan to specific card decks, i made an old stickfingers deck that wanted any reanimation spell. Old stickfingers can always get cultivator colossus, and you can just put a small arbitrary number of fun and probably mana heavy and recursive powerfull cards. The nice thing is that it doesn't need the ginourmous cultivator colossus it produces to survive, since it just ramps 30 lands and redraws your hand. If it's not exiled you can prbably do it again too. It was pretty fun, and when i made it the cheapest reanimate spell in brawl was 5 mana
I think something else thats helping this deck right now is people not understanding the interaction between it and cascade when they just read the card, ecause it says 1 or more on the card they think a cascade spell is only 1 counter bgecause you exile multiple cards at the same time, not realising that every card is a seperate trigger jsut because cascade requires you to check after every card is exiled.
some of those opponents probably saw you only had 1 or 2 cards in hand and thought weell no matter what they cast it cant get more than a couple of counters so it will be fine to not leave up removal, you only have to see this interaction once to learn
Now I want you to do a Zombie Hunt in 2024 video!
I know it’s obvious from this side of things, but if your opponent is mulliganing down to 2 or 3 cards shouldn’t that just raise every red flags imaginable?
So this is a budget War Doctor deck gotcha, was wondering why I saw people mulligan aggressively with this commander.
99% of games Seth loses are because he says "I'm afraid to go for it" and loses specifically because he didn't.
Ended up playing against this deck today! And can attest to the fact that it loses to any and all interaction. Was playing a self mill deck, cut down won me the game.
I'm usually a fan of scooping early if I know I'm dead but I would absolutely stick around to see this deck go off. So hilarious! Good vid.
I just built this, I feel awful. As someone who just started playing Arena, this feels like an excellent way to just make sure you're hitting your daily's without investing too many wildcards, but damn it feels bad to steamroll people who are just trying to actually play Magic.
I used to play a game called Eternal Card Game (designed by LSV and Patrick Chapin) and the mulligan for that system guaranteed between 2 and 5 lands and spells in each hand. There was a deck at one point that would include the minimum number of spells allowed which would force the shuffler to give you at least 2 really good cards every game. And there was a card that was functionally "Leyline of Lava Axe". So you would just hope to dome them for half of their life in the first turn then finish it off with a red aggro plan. It was never a very competitive deck, but it reminds me a lot of this.
I've been playing this deck as I've been getting back into arena. Even though it is an all or none style deck, I'm currently 8-3 with it. It is hilarious. The mirror match comes down to who goes first and has a discover spell in hand. I'm grinding packs with this deck, it is great
I just tried this deck, my first opponent cast Gyruda turn 3 and milled my etali's favor. I stuck with it and managed to win by discovering into daring discovery and stopping his blocks.
Thanks, I really didn't need people trying to play this without knowing when they are cooked... I've seen a few Laelia recently, and the most recent one mulligan to 1, didn't seem to grasp Overwhelming Splendor was enough to neuter the entire deck, and even wanted to play a few turns with Ethereal Absolution in play as well.
I've been running this for a few weeks now and it still feels super sweet when you pull it off
I've been experimenting with a laelia domain control deck for a while and it's quite fun and successful. I run a lot of 4-6 mana board sweeps, some cards to ramp up my lands, some tutors, some deck/hand exile cards, plenty of discover, some plainswalkers, and about 125 lands. Deck is maxed out for arena at 250 cards.
It's crazy I think I mentioned playing the deck a month ago, something about Laelia is hilarious with Discover. I'm glad its gonna spread like wildfire now lmao. Great games!
Might build this in paper. Seems pretty budget.
This deck can also play spells with a mana value of 5 and up. The build I put together after getting memed on about a week ago has a ton of cyclers and cards like Hearth Elemental, Fast//Furious, etc. that technically have a huge MV but can be cast for cheaper that all dig for discover/cascade hits. Hidden Volcano is also a huge one in the manabase!
There are some fun utility lands that help with decks like this like sozakan, mishras foundry, and especially the red discover land
Seeing the rapid counter accumulation with the fast sound effect made me laugh like a fool every single time.
Lol, try this in historic
Deck
3 Etali's Favor (LCI) 149
32 Mountain (AFR) 276
4 Trumpeting Carnosaur (LCI) 171
3 Geological Appraiser (LCI) 150
3 Daring Discovery (LCI) 142
3 Throes of Chaos (MH1) 150
4 Laelia, the Blade Reforged (C21) 53
3 Shock (MKM) 144
2 Curator of Sun's Creation (LCI) 141
3 Lightning Strike (DMU) 137
I saw this deck for the first time earlier tonight and I had looked away when they comboed out and couldn't for the life of me reverse engineer how she had gotten so huge until a couple minutes of looking the board over after losing lol. Immediately went and bought packs until I got a rare wild card so I could make this for myself
"But what if someone has removal in commander?"
A bold assumption people run removal in commander as well
This is a great way to remove two players in commander. One opponent, and you.
I love how it sounds like a machine gun when it goes off.
Commander does have a lot more cascade/discover cards; but on the flip side, you have three opponents, so the chance of someone having removal is higher, and you can only kill one of them per turn, so even after possibly surprise-killing the first one, Laelia needs to survive a collective three full turns from your opponents.
You would just die on your next draw step.
@@FoxoqNah; all the extra cards exiled by Cascade or Discover get put back on the bottom of the library; they don't stay in exile. It would be a VERY different mechanic in practice if they did.
this is just a better version of the old Ashling meme commander deck lol
Welp, thanks for showing me the deck I will be playing against for the next few weeks
Just had a fun match with this deck against a Windgrace deck on the draw.
Turn one they played Riveteer's Outlook
Turn two they played Elvish Reclaimer.
Turn three they went "Good Game" and played Stone Rain.
Turn four they played Rubble Reading.
Turn five they played Windgrace.
Turn five I played Laelia.
Turn six played Throes of Chaos and they conscede after Etali's Favor hit the board.
I love that someone who played land destruction and got off to a fairly reasonable start had to just give up.
Of course, right after that match I run into someone who hit me with Cyclonic Rift after a turn 4 Etali's Favor, which the deck can't recover from (no way to trample through).
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So this is why I’ve been spammed nonstop by this deck in the queue lol
would the discover lands work in this? the red one surely goes in...i think?
Cut lands to 60 and you got it. You dont need 95 trample. 45 trample is enough
Built it in paper was able to add several cascade cards which helps with the mulligan simulator. It functions but may be praying for a top deck after some removal. My favorite add is “Let the galaxy burn” from warhammer precon. It really describes playing the deck. You should do it for commander clash
While the odds won't be perfect - its roughly a 31% chance you'd start with at least 1 of the 5 cards in your starting hand before you muligan. Math on a winnable hand gets weirder once you get past the starting hand due to branching conditions, so for simplicity i'll just be sticking to the opening ones.
Muligan math also gets weird due to the same basis behind drawing getting weird once you get below 6, so for that same reason i'll just be sticking to the keep 7 and keep 6 for this.
With the mull to 6, the odds of seeing at least 1 of the 5 shoot up to 51%
I Been Encountering A Few Laelia Decks And I Have Started To Make Sure I Have Some Type Of Removal/Counter/Can't Attack Card In My Hand When I Go Against Them. Or Disenchant And 1 Blocker.
Both times I've come across this deck I had removal for Laelia before it popped off. Very funny to see them concede once their combo doesn't work.
this still catches people off guard btw. extremely funny
11:37 you should ask Crim If he remembers. Especially his tenure as the GM of kings
Today we're teaching Brawl Zoomers about removal.
Vlade Divac such an old reference, he was a great basketball player (one of if not the best around 1997) and from my country too. Won a bunch of medals while playing nationally and for the NBA as well.
I played against someone playing this on brawl when I was doing Etrata, Deadly Fugitive shaenanigans.
I won by holding up removal the entire game while etrata hit in for value
Yay love the meme decks!
Did this suddenly become famous? I've been running this for about 2 weeks now...
My 90+ land deck is Esika, God of the Tree. Except its really a planar bridge deck. The only card in the deck bridge can find is Cultivator Colossus. The remaining non-land slots are Banefire and ways to protect the Colossus and ourselves until we win.
"better to be lucky than to be good" the deck
Man I envy these matchups. Whenever I play historic brawl, I get nothing but Ragavan and Rusko.
arena was extremely kind to you. I have a codie deck, and always cast it on turn 2 (with dorks), but EVERY opponent has removal to kill it before I can untap on turn 3.
After making this deck and going to test it, very first opponent had the exact same one.
Oh I faced this deck yesterday. I turned Laelia into a 1/1 skeleton at flash speed before she attacked. I didn't realize it would be this nasty.
I've been playing this for a while and it's great fun
You can maybe trick the hand smoother into giving you better hands by adding a few cards with MV > whatever your highest discover value is. Currently your land percentage is so high that given two hands, one with 6 lands and a spell and one with 7 lands, the smoother will choose the 7 land hand because 100% lands is closer to your deck's composition than 85.7% lands. Also, the red discover cave is a no-brainer that the deck should be playing.
Also, also, like your last Laelia meme deck, there may be non-meme applications of this interaction. Laelia will be legal in Modern as of MH3 and may be playable in Rhinos decks there if a baseline okay beater of a 3-drop that becomes roughly a 20/20 when you do your thing is good. She may also be interesting in Rhino decks in Historic (Rhinos will not be playable in Timeless unless they add the good cascade cards), though she creates a risk for every Cascade/Discover card in the format with the exception of Bloodbraid Marauder (or Scalesoul Gnome hitting for less than 3 or triggering Pantlaza with a small butt, highish MV dino, most likely a Faceless Agent or deliberately not taking the discover until the eggs come down off a Palani's Hatcher) missing the Rhinos.
Oh great, I cant wait to run into this deck for the next week lol
I regret not playing this with only lands during the cascade event XD
Had a guy molly whap me with this deck. Had to try it out. So much fun.
Absolutely remember Vlade Divac. What a random (but welcome) callback.
this reminds me of a commander deck I played again with the commanders the war doctor and Ryan Sinclair. the deck will run only land and when ryan exiles to find the nonland that is not there it will put a time counter on the war doctor allowing to kill a player as soon as it attacks.
Came for the magic. Stayed for the Vlade Divac talk.
I've been doing this since Caves of Ixalan came out. Im glad that the deck got this publicity, but I'm scared to log back on
This may be the most entertaining jank deck I have ever seen
This deck needs a few of those 4 mana “discard 1 draw two” cards that wizards has printed several functional reprints of. Unexpected windfall or whatever
11:10 Seth managing to throw away a game even with the 94 mountains deck.
These type of decks optimize the fun out of the game. Maybe it will fade away by itself do to being so fragile, tho.
This was so silly. Thanks for the matches!