This Marshall Britannia 4nhp Portable is Trev's first ever steam engine experience! - LMM drives 29
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Hello everyone,
You may have guessed by now, but Lawrie is quite a big fan of old machines, especially of steam engines. The other members of LMM, not so much.
So when the the team were offered the chance to come film with a Portable, Lawrie jumped on the opportunity, but when it came to his attention that Trev has never even been near a steam engine, he vowed to correct the situation.
So just what will Trev think of his first experience with a steam engine, and join Lawrie operating live steam for the first time in months.
A massive thank you to the owner and his son for inviting us down!
A video featuring:
Lawrie - Presenter, excited to be around steam!
Trev - Co Presenter, and cameraman, somewhat confused by steam.
A video edited by Lawrie
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Trev like: Now i've cooked the bacon, what do i do?
Laurie like: As fireman, you do it again. this ones mine.
You've got it
The lawrie goes loco vids are proffesional and interesting but these are comedy a really good balance keep it all up I'm laughing like mad
Pleased to hear it!
@@lmm I am guessing Portable engines can be fired on fire wood or steam coal
Hello @@lmm
Please, someone buy Trev a belt, or a longer T-shirt
That we shall
I think the belt was swallowed into the gaping chasm
I was going to say the same thing myself, nearly made me bring up my dinner!
You could park a bike in that crack.🤔🤭
Please give us a bumcrack alert in future please.
I thought it was an LMM on bikes as Trev became a place to put the front wheel.
Massive props to the owner for choosing to restore it as close as possible to an original spec he could have very quickly decided to put an oil or gas burner and run it off that if he wanted but instead they stuck with firewood which is very lovely.
If I could I'd love to have a modernised steam engine built from scratch with a steam generator instead of a boiler (like the Doble and White Steam cars) so you get the same crazy power, and functionally it'd be identical while getting to make steam in under 20min.
we kept it wood as all we would do with the engine is power a saw bench so there is always leftover wood to burn
Wood is always cheap and easy to get hold of, makes running your engine significantly cheaper!
@@lmm Even compared to LPG/propane? Just asking because I think that'd be cheaper where I live the big bottles used for houses are pretty cheap here not to mention Gas Mains.
Jesus trev put your crack away 😂
We're buying him a belt!
As someone that works on everything from live steam models to full-sized locomotives, I find this content very enjoyable. That being said I have a vertical stationary steam engine that could have powered a cement mixer.
Oh really? That's pretty good!
excellent video with a piece of history and a dose of humour. My Dad would have loved your videos and You Tube. Sadly he's been gone many a year. He was a train enthusiast. Spent hours at Snowhill station as a kid (1920's) and often ate eggs from the shovel with the fireman and driver. I just watched one of your model railway videos. Dad had a super layout with 2 joining garden sheds. He had Albert Hall, Winston Churchill as well. as well. Carry on making your excellent videos and keeping steam alive and model engineering. As a kid myself I used to go with him to steam shows. Woodcote, and a spectacular steam fair at (I think) White Waltham in 1963 odd. Cheers. D. Now in South Africa, aged 72......
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video and brought back some happy memories!
Lawrie and Trev, thanks for sharing the video. A very nice portable engine there , the owner has taken proper care of it . The engine looks brand new. The sound of a steam engine ticking over is a special music all of its own. Charles M
You're most welcome, lovely thing isn't it.
I have my steam ticket and regularly work with traction engines, and I still love watching the way the cylinders work, getting an injector singing just right and the smell of steam and oil. Great vid!
Thank you, there is nothing like a living, breathing, steam engine!
I love things of this nature. But, it is also very enjoyable to watch videos of this nature as well. It's like watching a great comedy team. Well done gentlemen. Well done.
Thank you very much - glad you enjoyed it!
So Lawrie is the enthusiast, and Trev represents everybody else...
No, Trev enjoyed it and found it a curiousity. Everyone else wouldn't give it the time of day.
A wonderful looking Portable
Isn't it pretty!
Former farm kid here really appreciated that remark about farm laborers! Rushing leading to breaking things is so true. Being the elder child I ended up having most of the field work dumped on me when I was 11-12. I ran equipment for more hours than my father or brother combined in those years but my break-down rate was far lower because I took my time while they rushed. In the end, I got more done with my time going slightly slower because of all the downtime that avoided.
I remember Steamtown USA doing a boilerplate fabrication to repair a locomotive once. They had nothing other than the worn-out one in front of them so the work involved constructing a stand to support sections of the existing plate, clamping the new metal atop it, heating it with a torch and using large wooden mallets to pound it into shape against the old.
Exactly, you have to treat things with care!
Sometimes you have to use the old as a template for new!
I guess you could say that Trev had a CRACKing good time ;) Anyway, thanks for showing us this beautiful engine! :)
Well played 😂
Brilliant video as a engine man my self it’s so nice to see a video that uses the correct terminology but in simple terms lovely engine brilliant video
The novelty of when they show what it is behind is an actual cement mixer 😂
Cooking a hotdog with 240volts with forks, some one has been watching big Clive
It's a different way of cooking
You could probably cook one in that ass crack...😂😂😂
@Vuk Djordjevic watch the video
A very lovely machine and living history too. However, the visual highlight of the video for me was Trev's spectacular bum crack when loading timber into the smoke box 😄 Possibly award winning I think. A multi dimensional video for sure. You have to take him for a ride on a traction engine, I think it would win him over. Cheers 👍
I think you're right, going for a run might make things more interesting
Beautiful piece of motion, beauty within itself.... yep I could watch that and fuel it up all day .. just love the engineering...
It's just enchanting to watch!
that's a beautiful portable! I grew up with ugly ones in America. wish I could find one like that.
We did build some wonderfully pretty machines.
Sweet really nice!! Glad you guys are well and back on the air!!
Absolutely love this channel.
I'm glad covid didn't stop you from uploading!
Keep up the good work!
(Also you've inspired me to go and volunteer on my local railway called Kirklees Light Railway.
I have my induction next week!)
Oh fantastic - I'm so pleased to hear that, hope you enjoy volunteering. I've been speaking to the railway, so maybe I'll see you there one day
U da man Craig spot on hornby needs to remember the roots
Nice little informative film, thank you
Love the lmm drives intro
Thank you!
hey Lawrie great video as always i would love to see you take the footplate of a traction engine I have a big passion for this kinda things since I was born and raised in a town called Camborne in Cornwall where Richard Trevithick was born and he created the first steam locomotive keep up the great work :)
We have some traction engines lined up to appear on the channel in the future!
Glad you enjoyed it
@@lmm glad to hear that I'm definitely looking forward to that you guy's never fail to make me smile my first video was the ww1 simplex and have watched all your content since
great video , funny but accurate and informative at the same time , well done
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Shout out to Bigclivedotcom with the 240V hot dogs 😂
Amazing idea
cooking sausages with forks and electricity ? that sounds like bigclive XD
It's a different way to cook!
Just cant understand people like Trev, I could spend all day running/working on steam engines like this but working on cars and other modern stuff? Forget it.
I am very mysterious. Seriously though it's just horses for courses, enjoy what you enjoy. There's plenty of people who are into steam engines and I appreciate it, it's just personally not for me. (Trev)
A great demo. I did not know that Marshall made the Britannia engine. I have had access to two of these in the past. I have a 7.5 gauge loco as a hobby ini Aus. 👍👍
Oh what's your Loco?
Would be perfect with an old electric generator on it and a light bulb or something like that. But I also enjoyed the hypnotic moves of it. In Denmark in the Hjerl Hede museum they have on working actually and it's driving a saw mill. Very impressing to see how big tree logs are cutted into planks.
The owner too has a vintage saw mill for using with this!
The hilarious thing is not long after you mentioned pepper pig a pepper pig ad came on 😂😂
That's brilliant!
@Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels by the way I have a similar problem explaining steam to my fiancé. Can't get it through steam engines are human and are the most exquisite things on earth with the BEST soundtrack
Looking forward to seeing the first episode of cooking with Trev.
😂 😂 The hit UA-cam sensation
I hope you remembered to take that phone out of the firebox before shoving the wood in and lighting it ;)
Edit: I see you remembered yourself.
Love the video. You make a good duo on camera.
Thank you!
What a gorgeous little engine! I never 'got on' with a Marshall regulator - preferred the 2-handled Burrell set up.
it did have a handle for a regulator but we changed it to a lever
I really enjoyed the regulator on this, feels nice to use
There are various locomotive/traction engine/steamboat start up videos on UA-cam. This is the first one I have seen that shows explicitly, verifying the water level in the boiler before starting the fire. If you can do a video with the engine doing a bit of work, that would be great.
It's an important part of it!
part of the firebox check you missed, make sure your mobile phone isn't left inside before you light the fire.
I think you should next visit a bus museum and drive a bus, i can recommend the Wythall transport museum outside of Birmingham
I know of a chap who did that. Wondered why the fire was burning with a green tinge before the horror seeped in.
We're in talks with doing some buses!
@@lmm they also have very small steam trains at the Wythall transport museum. Might be seeing you on the weekend at the Apedale Railway
i can think of a practical use for this useful portable boiler.. use the 100psi of superheated steam to unblock drains with steam using a jetting hose.. and power a cement mixer off the drive pulley with a belt (so trev the labourer can finally have his cement) could also use steam heat to keep tarmac hot and cook the crew's lunch and boil up for brews.
You could do that yes, though you've still got the time delay of getting it ready
Love, Trev’s humor!
But I’m with Trev on this: a steam engine needs to do something. It should have a purpose to be satisfying. (Being from the Appalachian mountains I kept thinking, how this would be the basis for a good still!)
The best part was the Owners Son.
Stole the show
Yes it is a cement mixer ... provided you make that implement and attach it to this powerhead but also sawmill ,water pump ,and many more opportunities
It could indeed power it!
I love it!
Great program, thanks!!
Pleased to hear you enjoyed it!
What a nice machine
Lovely isn't it!
It's Trevor from Thomas and Friends!
Not quite, Trevor is based on a traction engine.
This being a portable is similar, but a very different machine!
I see
Love the video. Doing more traction engine stuff would be great!
We've got some more lined up that we'd like to do!
@@lmm excellent good sir! I live in canada and have a traction engine myself. I have a couple videos up of friends engines as well. I find the British engines neat and interesting. Cheers!
Oh that's very cool, I know nothing of Canadian steam, what's your engine?
@@lmm i own a 1910 22hp American abell . Has American in the name but was built in Toronto Ontario. I am currently building it now. In pieces so I haven't taken any videos of it. The videos I do have on my channel are of friends engines.
Ah, a Marshall.
My grandfather worked there.
Lawrie , need to come to the U.S. in the month of august ( every year ) to the tri state engine show in Portland Indiana. You would be in steam engine heaven LOL. ck it out on the internet ENJOY !!!!!
You need to put a counterbalance on that flywheel the counteract the crankshaft it has no counterbalance that's why that things Rockin so crazy you can make a box out of steel then you put steel shot or lead balls inside the Box pack it tightly weld it up you have to put it on the right spot of a flywheel it definitely needs some kind of counterbalance peace out have a great day
It's lasted a hundred years without, I don't think it needs it now.
Under load, a portable tends not to rock *as much*, however, a counterweight on the flywheel would tear the mechanism to pieces, especially when a load is applied. The builders (and restorers) know what they're doing, and there is a reason that no flywheel counterweight has been applied.
@@thomaskissell5269 I was just wondering why it was vibrating so much it just did not look normal like it was out of balance now I know why because it has no load I didn't realized that's what would happen if you didn't have a belt on the pulley nothing would just about Shake itself to death I know more about steam locomotives and I do steam stationary or portable engines thank you for the clarification and the reason why it was vibrating out of balance so much
Cool machine
It really is!
Here in the Rio de la Plata ,Uruguay, we use to make "churrascos" or "chuletas"(grilled beef or steaks) over the fire boxes of steam tractors and locos.
Oh that sounds fantastic!
Always appreciate a BigClive reference!
Glad you got it!
Perhaps time to take Trev on a Mamod engine race
Now that sounds more my style! - Trev
You must be showing me a cement mixer. Hilarious 😂
Good ol' Trev!
I’ve been a long follower of Gun Jesus, I’m glad to know we also have a Steam Jesus
May your days be steamy and your tubes never leak my son
Trev is fucking gold!
He's unfamiliar with steam, that's for sure
I don't know why, but watching this episode really makes me want to see a Lawrie Goes a Little Loco on a live steam engine. Like one of those small rideable 184 mm or 381 mm live steam locomotives. Heck, maybe even doing a Lawrie Goes Loco on a live steam Gauge 1 locomotive.
Don't ask how a full sized steam tractor made me think of the rideable live steam engines. It just somehow clicked in my head.
Bongo in a Top Hat if you look in some of the shots you can see a 7 1/4 inch gauge line so there might be a possibility for the future
We've got stuff in the pipeline!
Would love cooking with trev to be a thing maybe not on an active volcano but with unusual heat sources yes
We can investigate this
Great video as always keep up the great work
From Erika
Thank you!
This would absolutely be me and my friend Caleb; me fascinated and giddy as a schoolboy, him utterly baffled and bored out of his mind.
This was me growing up 😂
Just brilliant!
Thank you!
Trev looks like he's at a rave that only he can hear.
Dad dancing is my passion (Trev)
Gotta love steampunk machinery.
Steam punk is a genre, this is heritage.
@@lmm Ah, of course. My bad.
Who the fuck lights a fire in a steam engine with a cigarette lighter? Lmao, those union jokes though. This made my day!
Most of us do. That's pretty much the standard way of lighting up.
Glad you enjoyed the banter.
@@lmm I use a barbeque lighter with a flexible nozzle. I makes life easier and makes for less burned fingers.
0:10 is that a ferguson I see hiding in the background
Yeap, it's what the owners son bought the firewood up with!
@@lmm nice to see one is such good condition
Don't let Trev take it apart!
The one with the wrong lights?
So it makes pizza with cement?
No no, cement from pizza.
I love the new intro well done
Thank you very much
Surely reminds me of the late Fred Dibnah and his steam engines.
Thank you
hello i plan to build the machine
to scale do you know where i can find some drawings if only of the boiler thanks in advance
I'm afraid I don't
Marshall's were also known very well for the Marshall S-type Road roller, you should introduce Trev to one of those, he might be more impressed with it.
I do want to get him out in something that moves
@@lmm I would say bring him to have a ride on our Marshall s-type, but it is unfortunately in bits at the moment having the firebox replaced 😥
@@williamhurley2427 something to do in the future perhaps?
more please
That we can do!
Do we get a new series on Trev cooks?
Maybe as a Patreon exclusive 😂
I'd like to start by saying that I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos, and this one especially so. I do however want to point out that stuffing the firebox full of wood and setting it alight is NOT recommended as best practice for an old boiler, especially small ones such as these portables. Recognizing that this unit looks in excellent shape, at the end of the day, it's still ~100 year old iron and rivets. In the future, I would strongly suggest the use of a warming fire to start; that is a small fire which will raise the temperature of the fire box and internals to about 100 deg f over the course of an hour or so. This allows for slow, gentle expansion of the stays, sheets, etc. Once everything is nice and warm, then put the fuel to her and bring up pressure. Also, I may have missed it, and if so, ignore this, but it looks as though you opened the throttle for the first time with the cylinder drains shut... if that is the case, BAD ENGINEER!!!!!!
John Penner The engine had already been run as it had been sitting for over a year before the steaming so We wanted to make sure that the engine was running fine before we found it and the funny books that is how you steam that particular start of engine as the length of the boiler and fire box with the amount of water that was in the engine wouldn’t have made much difference with the expansion and contraction of metal and for a 100 year old engine the boiler and fire box is actually in very good condition as the only thin parts of the boiler were built welded up during the restoration.
@@William-209 That engine does look in top form, no question! As someone very active in this myself, I'm a firm believer in doing everything we can to preserve these engines. Just to be clear, the purpose of the warming fire isn't to warm the water, rather it's get the fire-side stays, tube ends, etc. warmed up and expanding gently.. This is where the greatest stresses on the boiler occur and anything that you can do to minimize them is a good thing. Out of curiosity is UK practice to swedge the fire-side end of the tubes and roll in ferrules, or simply to roll them in 'steel to steel'?
@@johnpenner3957 the tubes are just roles in and the boiler is so small you don't nead to have a warming fire
You need to remember it's also wood, that has a much lower thermic energy than coal.
I had laid a good fire, Trev just filled the firebox door.
Cracking job on the video 😂
Thank you!
I think you need a series called Steam Daze, to cover all steam-powered stuff. 😎
That's a good idea!
@@lmm Pleased you agree! I think it makes good sense! I will be a big fan, if you do! 😁😎
Dieci are a good machine the only thing let's them down is the main hydraulic lift cylinder having the damper in side the tube can cause problems when there's a good few hours on them
Oh really?
At 1:19 is that a cement mixer in rge backround
Lawrie this looks like a traction engine without the tender is it going to be a traction engine.
No, it's an entirely different thing to a traction engine.
Hey Trev. Next time you should bring your own car!🚗 😂
He actually drove 😂
bigclive is one of them that cook food with 240v
That's the one
its been 2 years, whens the next Cooking With Trev
A while away I'm afraid!
Its basically a small Lancashire boiler on wheels.
Bit more complex
cooking with trev. nows thats a thought
The new hit series!
I appreciate trevs Prodigy song reference
Man of great taste is our Trev
You really need to go and try driving my friend's BL turntable ladder.
Yes I do!
Here in Pennsylvania we have several steam tractor festivals during the year, and I have never seen a farm steam engine with that round of a fire box, or one with such a long smokestack. Then again CASE and Advance engines are massive in size compared to this one.
Yes, but traction engines are bigger machines.
I don't know if Case did portables ever?
@@lmm Sure they did. There's one in my hometown brought out twice a year for the local farm traction show for threshing demos. A quick search came up with a video of another one granted it looks to be of the same size as the one in your vid. ua-cam.com/video/1_-phXPAI1M/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RossBendixen
I'm disappointed you didn't cook a pizza ;) Good work and great valence of funny and intersting
Pizza is possible, particularly the little mini ones!
Funny looking pizza oven/cement mixer trev
Very odd
I'd love to see Trev go on a traction engine or steam roller
you never know what might happen
We hope to make that happen
0/10 not a cement mixer
Edit: for real tho this video was really entertaining!
yea was dissapointing
I mean... I'm sure I can review a cement mixer 😂
@@lmm that would be truly wonderful
@@lmm or hook this up to a drum, and then it is a cement mixer?
@@lmm It would have to be an old one to be more fitting
Do you need a boiler ticket to operate stationary boilers on private land?
Aidyn Gough not in England only it there is public around
for the last time trev, its not a pizza oven, or a cement mixer, or a cement mixer pizza oven, it a STEAM GENERATOR FOR GODSAKE
10:45 , im legit dying of laughter
WAIT DID THEY JUST COOK BACON IN THE FIRE BOX
18:55 - 19:10 IM DYING, IM DYING, IM GOING, I SEE THE LIGHT
Glad you enjoyed it!
I spotted a large dangerously big crack a 5:37
Worrying isn't it
Trevor aka old school thomas the tank engine I grew up watching
I don't think there was anything in the video that resembled that character.
@@lmm dang it,wrong character. I meant trevor. My apologies
Lawrie: it’s a steam engine
Trev: so it mixes cement
Me: (sighs) really
Trev: Pepa pig says to wash your hands
Me: Thomas says to learn all about your machines
Nails in a hotdog attched to a deadmans cord was mentioned to me way back in highscool by an alumni of that school... back then had to be over 70yrs old ... used to hook directly into citys powerplant as a student to cook some meat. told me only took a few seconds also mentioned really dangerous and stupid... whatever power they were using 100yrs ago
That's one way to cook.
i wonder what if would be like if Lawrie was ever to drive Flying Scotsman
Pretty awesome!
@@lmmand I’m only imagining next year when there might be a lawrie goes loco on Talyllyn when it returns to steam
@@TheSudrianTerrier653 it's in the pipeline
@@lmm I’m just gonna say I LOVE the great eastern railway blue Talyllyn is supposed to be in ^^
Next time try a Wiles Cooker❗️😉
That looks amazing!
Nice restoration. But looking at the fire, you need more wood. Should have pressure in less than 90 minutes not 3 hours +. You would not get any work done in a day taking that long to get into operation.
You could force an engine into steam, then you risk causing damage to the locomotive.
This is the first steaming this has had since Lockdown, so very much a case of taking it gently