I never thought about this but now I want to draw in my big sketchbook to get those marks I've been missing. Im self taught so most of the time everything is new information for me. Thank you for this video!
Of course! Some of the simplest things we tend to overlook or forget. That's a great idea, I'm gonna do the same Time to break out the big sketchbooks!
Anything smaller than an A3 sized paper for drawing would terrify me when i was learning to draw. I thought myself to draw smaller and eventually felt comfortable with an A7 sized paper. I did all that with traditional media. The cool thing is, the old muscle memories and techniques from that actually helped the transitioning phase to digital media. And i almost never really need to adjust my strokes or redo any on a digital illustration. I think its important to always find a way to keep those muscle memories and techniques in practice. Cause you never know when you might need it and how it might help to overcome situations where re-wiring needs to happen for an illustration or commission 🥰
That's a beautiful way of putting it You never know how you might use a skill you learn later in life. In this case, all of it helps you become a stronger artist!
After moving from traditional to digital drawing big always been a hurdle to me. When I draw something let's just say it is a fanart, the amount of times I erase the whole thing and pull my hair out of frustration has been countless. I don't have that problem while drawing on paper because you will realise the second you take a step back and look on the paper and that's not the same case when I draw all zoomed in digitally 😂. Your videos are fantastic man, KEEP IT UP ❤.
Totally agree about “drawing big” This is my experience so far and note to all reading- I am not a pro artist, I’m learning: - I am learning figure drawing and found out via feedback from my instructor that I could not get certain shapes and forms right coz I was sketching and shading on A4. This also made me use my wrist more and my work looks cramped and messy - digital art- I am still struggling. I have a decco Xp pen graphic tablet. Great for photobashing and drawing landscapes. Figure drawing, curve shape drawing- I fail. I tried out a 16 inch screen display (Innovator from XP pen- it was great but I have 24 inch monitors. This was causing issues moving across screens and still forced me to “draw small”, use my wrist and fingers instead of my arm/shoulder to make nice smooth lines I changed the innovator for a 22 inch monitor due to my budget limit. It was Black Friday week and I went direct to XP pen as it was cheaper than Amazon. Much better but I now know that when my art gets better, I will buy a 24 inch monitor. That’s many years in future 🤣🤣 Lessons learned on digital- do proper research. It’s expensive but also think about workspace and work value and feel. I will never buy small drawing screen tablet ever. From traditional point, I draw on A3 minimum. Cheap. Then I laugh at myself when I search for control Z in the paper 🤣🤣.
Dang, you've gone through so much experimentation with tablets! 😲 I'm happy you commented so people can see how much of a difference this really makes. Artists honestly need like a "tablet show" where they can try tablets of all different kinds/brands/sizes and really see the difference between them. It's hard to "try out" a tablet since they're so expensive you basically have to gamble with your future😭 And omg the iPad got me used to tapping with two fingers to undo -- I would do it on my own sketchbook too 😳😳
@@ZephyerArt yup. I wish I could walk into an art store and try out different drawing screens of varied size. There are channels on YT with proper in-depth testing and they can help loads. Wacom I hear are great but are the most expensive alongside Apple IPad-Pro compared to XP pen, Veikk and Huion and some Android large screen tablet computers.
I used to draw so smaller that it was only comprehensible to me. Now I’m trying to fix that habit though, it’s a slow process but I’m getting there little by little.
I'm trying to imagine your drawing process, that must've been quite difficult to draw so tiny! Happy to hear your on the journey to dawing bigger, we can definitely accomplish that togther 😁
I'd say, after experimenting with a few more grips, the standard grip that we usually use for writing and stuff(it's what I use mostly cause it's been that way my entire life), encourages finger movement more, while other, fancier grips help you draw from your wrist. maybe because they kinda lock your fingers in place and doesn't give them as much freedom as the standard grip? Idk. I'm just trying them out, so maybe it's because I'm still not used to them yet. But I think drawing with different grips might help develop the muscle memory for bigger movements.
hmm grips are probably more personal preference, but I have heard that smaller pencils can be more of a strain on your tendons (so your hand will hurt more) and it's better to have a wider/thicker pencil. Other grips might encourage you to draw more with your wrist but that's more of a concious decision you have to make regardless of the grip you use. I have seen some rather interesting grips from other artists lol but like I said, personal preference there mostly, maybe they chose it for the exact reason you're describing
@@ZephyerArtI also noticed that different grips make different strokes from different angles easier. so ideally if you could get used to changing your grip constantly, you might have do better. I just don't know if that's practical. I mean, I thought that I had to get used to using different stokes from the same standard grip instead of rotating my canvas, just because it's hard to do, and being able to do it would make me better. I mean, yeah, sure it might, but that's an unnecessary step that I could do without. After all, no harm in taking an easier path if it works instead of wasting time to get good at something that basically achieves the same result. It's kinda wasting time, in a way.
Practicing large gesture drawing on a huge sketchpad in between digital drawing sessions can be helpful to combat this drawing too small problem if getting a big ole display tablet isnt an option. At the very least youre practicing the very useful muscle memory in your elbow and shoulders as well.
I had always wanted to draw on a bigger canvas like Kim Jung gi, or other show artists. Recently became a teacher, and tried doing a freestyle drawing on a whiteboard using a marker, 5 minutes after I was able to put down a human figure I started feeling pain in my arms😂, it was hard, not the scaling(moving to bigger canvas), but the use of the whole arm in mid air. I’m kinda more used to it now.
lol that's so awesome! I remember hearing how Bridgman drew massive drawings (which they converted to his artbooks) using a long yardstick and somehow still had amazing drawings You must have such a command over the knowledge of your subjects
@@DreamingTabitha lol OMG I tried to draw chibi heads big, just the other day, and THAT was so hard. The proportions were so much harder to control. I honestly I'm much more in awe from people who draw really big now.
a little thing you may have heard before that should have triggered this "warning" in your brain is to draw from the elbow and shoulders where you can, to prevent injuries down the line, if you find that uncomfortable BECAUSE you draw on a digital tablet (non-display), that should be a giveaway that something is already wrong!
so true! Thankfully, I haven't had much pain in my hands from drawing but I've heard of coutless artists getting arthritis and not being able to draw or having to wear a brace. Those constant small movements can speed up that kind of pain. I know I've gotten it before from longer gaming sessions with the keyboard or controller so I should've known the same could happen here. Gotta protect your hands and arms!
i still tend to draw small with my display tablet and ive had it for years now. i draw bigger than i did on the pen tablet, but you can def see very slightly on my display one i tend to stick to one size/area lol. should prob work on that lol
one of the things i hated about a small non display tablet was doing lineart. Lineart is my favourite thing to draw and doing big swipes without being able to coordinate it with what i saw on the sketch was frustrating, as i had to undo like 30 times for each big line that i wanted to draw. the movement is too fast for me to be able to process how the line goes without seeing exactly as i draw it
I miss that a lot too! I used to do tons of figure drawing workshops on those 18x24 pads with the boards and making those big sweeping lines was so much fun. Lineart is definitely less fun if it's always more constricted. You're making me wonder if this is why we undo so much lol our body is just screaming to make bigger lines and movements
@ZephyerArt i just got a display tablet yesterday and even tho i didnt get to draw much with it yet i've been using the undo a lot less, i definitely recommend it
lol 😅 I'm sorry jack, it definitely sucks at first --- feels super awkward, but you'll get used to it like anything else we have to learn. And you'll be even better at drawing when you do 😁
@@ZephyerArt Yeah, the worst thing is, I wasn't even using a digital tablet. I was just sketching on a really small notebook. It's cheap, but works well for practice. Tried drawing a big face on a whole page and... it didn't look good. I need to get a bigger sketchbook and get some practice in.
@@jackfelldown1if you want to go traditional, get he big drawing board with the 18x24 paper, usually used for figure drawing. You’ll have TONS of space ☺️
The display tablet isn't the problem. You can still use your arm for this. Even as you pointed out, you can overcome the not looking at the drawing surface to see the drawing. Many professionals use a big tablet, but not all use a display one. Be careful with such statements. I'll say it again, it's not the tablet. Regarding the scale, no. You're not drawing a portrait 3 times smaller because you have a tablet 3 times smaller unless you don't zoom in at all. Even if you get a medium or small display tablet, you're zooming in, etc. 😂
The portrait was an example, even if you zoom in the size discrepancy doesn’t change. A line drawn on your tablet will show up larger on your screen. Obviously there will be exceptions to the rule, there’s no absolutes, but professionals mostly use display tablets. The studios themselves provide them and independent artists typically choose them for their career.
Sorry dude but I disagree. A drawing tablet without a screen is better ergonomically for your whole body and you should be drawing digitally and traditionally to get the most from your learning. Saying one way is bad without knowing the full extent of the issues isn’t wise. I can’t use my cintiq because of a forearm injury from excessive drawing. Keeping my arm cramped at an upward angle and hunching over a screen is not better for you. Trust this old man haha
lol I trust your premise but I reject your conclusion. A bad posture can certainly lead to injury, but you don't have to hunch over a screen to draw. You can achieve ergonomically convenient positions with screen tablets and sketchbooks/drawing pads. Ergonomics really don't matter here, as you can assume a comfortable position no matter the type of drawing you do, and it wasn't a part of my justification for switching to display tablets. Also, you don't have to draw traditionally and digitally to get the most out of learning, the two are closely related that there is virtually no difference, the only exception being the discrepency I metioned over sizes. Painting vs digital painting is where there are more substantial differences and require unique skillsets of their own but overlap in many ways as well. I'm sorry to hear about your injury.
I never thought about this but now I want to draw in my big sketchbook to get those marks I've been missing. Im self taught so most of the time everything is new information for me. Thank you for this video!
Of course! Some of the simplest things we tend to overlook or forget. That's a great idea, I'm gonna do the same Time to break out the big sketchbooks!
Anything smaller than an A3 sized paper for drawing would terrify me when i was learning to draw. I thought myself to draw smaller and eventually felt comfortable with an A7 sized paper.
I did all that with traditional media. The cool thing is, the old muscle memories and techniques from that actually helped the transitioning phase to digital media. And i almost never really need to adjust my strokes or redo any on a digital illustration.
I think its important to always find a way to keep those muscle memories and techniques in practice. Cause you never know when you might need it and how it might help to overcome situations where re-wiring needs to happen for an illustration or commission 🥰
That's a beautiful way of putting it You never know how you might use a skill you learn later in life. In this case, all of it helps you become a stronger artist!
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After moving from traditional to digital drawing big always been a hurdle to me. When I draw something let's just say it is a fanart, the amount of times I erase the whole thing and pull my hair out of frustration has been countless. I don't have that problem while drawing on paper because you will realise the second you take a step back and look on the paper and that's not the same case when I draw all zoomed in digitally 😂. Your videos are fantastic man, KEEP IT UP ❤.
Thank you Akhil! Yea I imagine working from sketchbook to display tablet is a lot less jarring. I'll report back once I get my hands on one!
Totally agree about “drawing big”
This is my experience so far and note to all reading- I am not a pro artist, I’m learning:
- I am learning figure drawing and found out via feedback from my instructor that I could not get certain shapes and forms right coz I was sketching and shading on A4. This also made me use my wrist more and my work looks cramped and messy
- digital art- I am still struggling. I have a decco Xp pen graphic tablet. Great for photobashing and drawing landscapes. Figure drawing, curve shape drawing- I fail.
I tried out a 16 inch screen display (Innovator from XP pen- it was great but I have 24 inch monitors. This was causing issues moving across screens and still forced me to “draw small”, use my wrist and fingers instead of my arm/shoulder to make nice smooth lines
I changed the innovator for a 22 inch monitor due to my budget limit. It was Black Friday week and I went direct to XP pen as it was cheaper than Amazon.
Much better but I now know that when my art gets better, I will buy a 24 inch monitor. That’s many years in future 🤣🤣
Lessons learned on digital- do proper research. It’s expensive but also think about workspace and work value and feel. I will never buy small drawing screen tablet ever.
From traditional point, I draw on A3 minimum. Cheap. Then I laugh at myself when I search for control Z in the paper 🤣🤣.
Dang, you've gone through so much experimentation with tablets! 😲
I'm happy you commented so people can see how much of a difference this really makes. Artists honestly need like a "tablet show" where they can try tablets of all different kinds/brands/sizes and really see the difference between them. It's hard to "try out" a tablet since they're so expensive you basically have to gamble with your future😭
And omg the iPad got me used to tapping with two fingers to undo -- I would do it on my own sketchbook too 😳😳
@@ZephyerArt yup. I wish I could walk into an art store and try out different drawing screens of varied size. There are channels on YT with proper in-depth testing and they can help loads. Wacom I hear are great but are the most expensive alongside Apple IPad-Pro compared to XP pen, Veikk and Huion and some Android large screen tablet computers.
@@blackhoundrise8431 yea I’m trying to decide what to get myself now and Wacom looks the best but it’s the most expensive too 😭
I used to draw so smaller that it was only comprehensible to me. Now I’m trying to fix that habit though, it’s a slow process but I’m getting there little by little.
I'm trying to imagine your drawing process, that must've been quite difficult to draw so tiny! Happy to hear your on the journey to dawing bigger, we can definitely accomplish that togther 😁
@@ZephyerArt ayee, thanks.
the editing is great on this video! thanks for the art tips
Thank you Oranbrie! I was really proud of the intro
I'd say, after experimenting with a few more grips, the standard grip that we usually use for writing and stuff(it's what I use mostly cause it's been that way my entire life), encourages finger movement more, while other, fancier grips help you draw from your wrist. maybe because they kinda lock your fingers in place and doesn't give them as much freedom as the standard grip? Idk. I'm just trying them out, so maybe it's because I'm still not used to them yet. But I think drawing with different grips might help develop the muscle memory for bigger movements.
hmm grips are probably more personal preference, but I have heard that smaller pencils can be more of a strain on your tendons (so your hand will hurt more) and it's better to have a wider/thicker pencil. Other grips might encourage you to draw more with your wrist but that's more of a concious decision you have to make regardless of the grip you use. I have seen some rather interesting grips from other artists lol but like I said, personal preference there mostly, maybe they chose it for the exact reason you're describing
@@ZephyerArtI also noticed that different grips make different strokes from different angles easier. so ideally if you could get used to changing your grip constantly, you might have do better. I just don't know if that's practical.
I mean, I thought that I had to get used to using different stokes from the same standard grip instead of rotating my canvas, just because it's hard to do, and being able to do it would make me better. I mean, yeah, sure it might, but that's an unnecessary step that I could do without. After all, no harm in taking an easier path if it works instead of wasting time to get good at something that basically achieves the same result. It's kinda wasting time, in a way.
Practicing large gesture drawing on a huge sketchpad in between digital drawing sessions can be helpful to combat this drawing too small problem if getting a big ole display tablet isnt an option. At the very least youre practicing the very useful muscle memory in your elbow and shoulders as well.
Absolutely! I definitely want to break out my drawing pad again and draw really big.😁 That's great advice!
I had always wanted to draw on a bigger canvas like Kim Jung gi, or other show artists. Recently became a teacher, and tried doing a freestyle drawing on a whiteboard using a marker, 5 minutes after I was able to put down a human figure I started feeling pain in my arms😂, it was hard, not the scaling(moving to bigger canvas), but the use of the whole arm in mid air. I’m kinda more used to it now.
lol that's so awesome! I remember hearing how Bridgman drew massive drawings (which they converted to his artbooks) using a long yardstick and somehow still had amazing drawings You must have such a command over the knowledge of your subjects
I draw rather large characters regularly but I never comprehended the benefits of it! Thanks💎
Oh, that's impressive! I still find it a bit hard to draw big characters but I'm getting there 😁
@@ZephyerArt I typically draw chibis so that big head is unavoidable 😅
@@DreamingTabitha lol OMG I tried to draw chibi heads big, just the other day, and THAT was so hard. The proportions were so much harder to control. I honestly I'm much more in awe from people who draw really big now.
So underrated!!
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a little thing you may have heard before that should have triggered this "warning" in your brain is to draw from the elbow and shoulders where you can,
to prevent injuries down the line, if you find that uncomfortable BECAUSE you draw on a digital tablet (non-display), that should be a giveaway that something is already wrong!
so true! Thankfully, I haven't had much pain in my hands from drawing but I've heard of coutless artists getting arthritis and not being able to draw or having to wear a brace. Those constant small movements can speed up that kind of pain. I know I've gotten it before from longer gaming sessions with the keyboard or controller so I should've known the same could happen here. Gotta protect your hands and arms!
i still tend to draw small with my display tablet and ive had it for years now. i draw bigger than i did on the pen tablet, but you can def see very slightly on my display one i tend to stick to one size/area lol. should prob work on that lol
lol I've been doing the same for years as well! At least we know now
I want to draw poster and I need to occupated the space but I can’t draw bigger 😭😭🤧☠️
one of the things i hated about a small non display tablet was doing lineart. Lineart is my favourite thing to draw and doing big swipes without being able to coordinate it with what i saw on the sketch was frustrating, as i had to undo like 30 times for each big line that i wanted to draw. the movement is too fast for me to be able to process how the line goes without seeing exactly as i draw it
I miss that a lot too! I used to do tons of figure drawing workshops on those 18x24 pads with the boards and making those big sweeping lines was so much fun. Lineart is definitely less fun if it's always more constricted. You're making me wonder if this is why we undo so much lol our body is just screaming to make bigger lines and movements
@ZephyerArt i just got a display tablet yesterday and even tho i didnt get to draw much with it yet i've been using the undo a lot less, i definitely recommend it
@@leblonk5428Oh man, you're getting me excited to try it out! I can't wait! Good luck with your new display tablet
@@ZephyerArt wishing you have fun using it, it's definitely worth the buy
Not glad to say this, but I found out I'm not smart and this was a shock to me. Tried drawing bigger, and it kinda sucked.
lol 😅 I'm sorry jack, it definitely sucks at first --- feels super awkward, but you'll get used to it like anything else we have to learn. And you'll be even better at drawing when you do 😁
@@ZephyerArt Yeah, the worst thing is, I wasn't even using a digital tablet. I was just sketching on a really small notebook. It's cheap, but works well for practice. Tried drawing a big face on a whole page and... it didn't look good. I need to get a bigger sketchbook and get some practice in.
@@jackfelldown1if you want to go traditional, get he big drawing board with the 18x24 paper, usually used for figure drawing. You’ll have TONS of space ☺️
The display tablet isn't the problem. You can still use your arm for this.
Even as you pointed out, you can overcome the not looking at the drawing surface to see the drawing.
Many professionals use a big tablet, but not all use a display one. Be careful with such statements.
I'll say it again, it's not the tablet.
Regarding the scale, no. You're not drawing a portrait 3 times smaller because you have a tablet 3 times smaller unless you don't zoom in at all. Even if you get a medium or small display tablet, you're zooming in, etc. 😂
The portrait was an example, even if you zoom in the size discrepancy doesn’t change. A line drawn on your tablet will show up larger on your screen.
Obviously there will be exceptions to the rule, there’s no absolutes, but professionals mostly use display tablets. The studios themselves provide them and independent artists typically choose them for their career.
Sorry dude but I disagree. A drawing tablet without a screen is better ergonomically for your whole body and you should be drawing digitally and traditionally to get the most from your learning. Saying one way is bad without knowing the full extent of the issues isn’t wise. I can’t use my cintiq because of a forearm injury from excessive drawing. Keeping my arm cramped at an upward angle and hunching over a screen is not better for you. Trust this old man haha
lol I trust your premise but I reject your conclusion. A bad posture can certainly lead to injury, but you don't have to hunch over a screen to draw. You can achieve ergonomically convenient positions with screen tablets and sketchbooks/drawing pads. Ergonomics really don't matter here, as you can assume a comfortable position no matter the type of drawing you do, and it wasn't a part of my justification for switching to display tablets.
Also, you don't have to draw traditionally and digitally to get the most out of learning, the two are closely related that there is virtually no difference, the only exception being the discrepency I metioned over sizes. Painting vs digital painting is where there are more substantial differences and require unique skillsets of their own but overlap in many ways as well.
I'm sorry to hear about your injury.