Smashing video ,,,, glad you have examples of this type of engine still remaining over there as we do in the UK. many thanks for sharing ,,,, ( as im one of those steam nerds)
Running a steam engine on a motor will cause dammage to the cylinders and other parts even if you oil them regularly this beautiful engine is going to suffer irreparable dammage
It is impressive how silent Steam Engines were, and how many decades they lasted and ran in old ships or water pump stations or whatever. Try this with a modern engine, I guess that whole engine block needs to be completely replaced every 2 years or so :D
Julia Shenandoah most of it is the size - the large container-ship engines, two stroke diesels running on fuel oil, will run almost-continuously for decades on end. Even smaller engines like locomotive diesels will run for quite long periods between rebuilds. Modern practice is mainly that we tend to use small electric motors where we need them, because they're pretty much just as efficient in small sizes as in big sizes. And then we can use multiple small ones, because that's cheaper and easier to maintain than one big one. And the only thing that still has to be Big is the electricity generating plants, which are mostly big boilers heated by whatever you burn, or by a nuclear pile, followed by steam turbines. So basically the modern world still runs on steam, it just goes through an electric phase in between, and we moved from reciprocating steam engines to turbine engines.
This is not a "walking" beam. Walking beams have a longitudinal movement to avoid using (or pre-dating) James Watt's parallelogram linkage at the cylinder, walking beams did not have a fixed central column but instead had a pair of vertical links either side of the beam, pivoted at the ground as well as the centre of the beam, this allowed the beam to follow the straight line motion of the piston rod and due to the vertical links rocking back and forth looked (with a little imagination) as though it was walking. rotative beam engines such as this use Watt's parallelogram to do the same job. So your engine is a beautiful rotative beam engine.
Thanks for stopping by! Insurance, maintenance, interest, etc. all have conspired to end the era of steam. I'm just thankful it wasn't melted for scrap.
I saw it steam powered back in the 1980sand was enthralled with the woolf compound and the fact that it was actually running the only other place I've seen beam engines was at the Ford museum and they aren't as impressive as this engine
Lovely, but where's the steam? Agree with the other posts, just driving it on an electric motor for hours will just wear it out. It does not need the original boilers, a small modern package boiler tucked around back somewhere will do the job just grand. We need steam! 🤣🤣
Hi at my friends anglo-Canadian, 100H.P. 15 rpm,for timming the engine at this era mechanics not use a timming light,at 15 rpm the guy use a calendar,slow who said.
I talked to the guide about that on a recent visit- that turning the engine over without steam or compressed air can cause cylinder damage. He said they pour oil into the cylinders quite regularly to guard against that. All the same, it just isn't the same experience without real steam. Even if the steam came from a modern gas fired package boiler to keep the operating costs and crew needs to a minimum, the engine would still be running as a steam engine and moving by itself.
$ Funding, plain and simple. If you never grew up with it, then it's not relevant... so no contributors. There will probably be a phone app to simulate someday...
Yeah I can understand the money that would be involved in restoring the original steam boilers would be a problem. Its just a great bonus when its powered by steam. There is one not far from myself in England called papplewick pumping station and its powered by steam from some old Lancashire boilers.
Not even compressed air. An electric motor has a rubber tire up against the flywheel, and it is turned using that. Of course the engine still breathes a bit as it runs. All four of the original 1850s boilers are long gone, and the 2 boilers installed in the 1880s are also long gone. I would be happy enough just seeing it operate using steam from a modern package boiler situated in a shed out back, that way they could keep the original boilerhouse open to the public as it presently is. Or maybe for special events, have local steam enthusiasts bring a traction engine or portable boiler onto the grounds and plumb that in to provide the engine that isn't hooked to the electric with actual steam so it can run for real. This would be possible, and wouldn't be as big of a burden to the museum as installing a working boiler would be. I traveled from the US to Hamilton specifically to see this museum. Even without a steam supply, I was not dissapointed at all by what I found.
We built some great contrivances at one point. Such an amazing engine.
Smashing video ,,,, glad you have examples of this type of engine still remaining over there as we do in the UK. many thanks for sharing ,,,, ( as im one of those steam nerds)
Running a steam engine on a motor will cause dammage to the cylinders and other parts even if you oil them regularly this beautiful engine is going to suffer irreparable dammage
If you're a steam nerd, you'll enjoy the visit!
It's great.
It would be better to see it run by steam
It is impressive how silent Steam Engines were, and how many decades they lasted and ran in old ships or water pump stations or whatever. Try this with a modern engine, I guess that whole engine block needs to be completely replaced every 2 years or so :D
Julia Shenandoah most of it is the size - the large container-ship engines, two stroke diesels running on fuel oil, will run almost-continuously for decades on end. Even smaller engines like locomotive diesels will run for quite long periods between rebuilds.
Modern practice is mainly that we tend to use small electric motors where we need them, because they're pretty much just as efficient in small sizes as in big sizes. And then we can use multiple small ones, because that's cheaper and easier to maintain than one big one.
And the only thing that still has to be Big is the electricity generating plants, which are mostly big boilers heated by whatever you burn, or by a nuclear pile, followed by steam turbines. So basically the modern world still runs on steam, it just goes through an electric phase in between, and we moved from reciprocating steam engines to turbine engines.
I had no idea this was here....road trip to Hamilton!!
Go check it out!
This is not a "walking" beam. Walking beams have a longitudinal movement to avoid using (or pre-dating) James Watt's parallelogram linkage at the cylinder, walking beams did not have a fixed central column but instead had a pair of vertical links either side of the beam, pivoted at the ground as well as the centre of the beam, this allowed the beam to follow the straight line motion of the piston rod and due to the vertical links rocking back and forth looked (with a little imagination) as though it was walking. rotative beam engines such as this use Watt's parallelogram to do the same job. So your engine is a beautiful rotative beam engine.
Thanks, I will update the title if UA-cam lets me.
so sad that it is no longer run by steam and access is limited to a short tour
Thanks for stopping by! Insurance, maintenance, interest, etc. all have conspired to end the era of steam. I'm just thankful it wasn't melted for scrap.
I saw it steam powered back in the 1980sand was enthralled with the woolf compound and the fact that it was actually running the only other place I've seen beam engines was at the Ford museum and they aren't as impressive as this engine
Yeahh, I saw it as a kid in the 1980s running under steam and will never forget the experience. It's a rather sterile experience now.
Lovely, but where's the steam? Agree with the other posts, just driving it on an electric motor for hours will just wear it out. It does not need the original boilers, a small modern package boiler tucked around back somewhere will do the job just grand. We need steam! 🤣🤣
This would be a great film location for a steam punk themed movie.
It's used quite often for the Toronto Steam Punk crowd. Cheers!
It isn't often I can say "I've been there!" In a UA-cam video comments section... about 25+ years ago. Never saw it operate though 😒
Time to visit it again then!
Rockwood Joe Yes! On a day when it is operating, possibly...
Roughly 35,000 lbft of torque to make 100hp @15 rpm.
Really?
Yes, really.
Hi at my friends anglo-Canadian, 100H.P. 15 rpm,for timming the engine at this era
mechanics not use a timming light,at 15 rpm the guy use a calendar,slow who said.
Running the engines with an electric motor is very destructive to them.
There are probably no future intentions of ever running it under steam again. The museum already operates under financial duress.
I talked to the guide about that on a recent visit- that turning the engine over without steam or compressed air can cause cylinder damage. He said they pour oil into the cylinders quite regularly to guard against that.
All the same, it just isn't the same experience without real steam. Even if the steam came from a modern gas fired package boiler to keep the operating costs and crew needs to a minimum, the engine would still be running as a steam engine and moving by itself.
Sounds like its driven by compressed air, damn shame :(
$ Funding, plain and simple. If you never grew up with it, then it's not relevant... so no contributors. There will probably be a phone app to simulate someday...
Yeah I can understand the money that would be involved in restoring the original steam boilers would be a problem. Its just a great bonus when its powered by steam. There is one not far from myself in England called papplewick pumping station and its powered by steam from some old Lancashire boilers.
Not even compressed air. An electric motor has a rubber tire up against the flywheel, and it is turned using that. Of course the engine still breathes a bit as it runs.
All four of the original 1850s boilers are long gone, and the 2 boilers installed in the 1880s are also long gone. I would be happy enough just seeing it operate using steam from a modern package boiler situated in a shed out back, that way they could keep the original boilerhouse open to the public as it presently is.
Or maybe for special events, have local steam enthusiasts bring a traction engine or portable boiler onto the grounds and plumb that in to provide the engine that isn't hooked to the electric with actual steam so it can run for real. This would be possible, and wouldn't be as big of a burden to the museum as installing a working boiler would be.
I traveled from the US to Hamilton specifically to see this museum. Even without a steam supply, I was not dissapointed at all by what I found.
@@JintySteam1 i live in papplewick!
No a far greater horror has befallen this engine an electric motor drives it