@@marchorowitz5516 you’re absolutely right. After the coach is gone, that’s when we start hearing what a disaster he was the entire time behind the scenes
Im a Canes fan so this is bittersweet for me. Obviously i like it when Fsu loses but i understand and have felt this type of loss. But seeing Fsu and Miami struggle with lesser teams is just sad! I wanna see our teams have good years and matter again.
As a Gators fan, I miss the good old days when Florida, Florida State, and Miami were dominating their respective conferences, and all three were Top 10.
Likewise. I've been rooting for Miami too. College football is so much better when we both beat the breaks off everyone else and have a dogfight for the state and national title.
As a 41 Year Seminole Fan the whole issue is very simple just as it has been for the past 4 seasons........Its called "Basics" FSU players on both side of the Ball are Failing to do "Basic" techniques of football...Tackling, Blocking and are Failing to Execute plays.
Wake forest is going to crush us badly! Team moral is broken. It’s a road game at that, and wake plays extremely hard every week. My goodness I didn’t think this could get worse but yikes!!
Gators fan here. Not to gloat because I watch you guys every week. I love all the warchant lineup, everyone is first class. I'll just say I love my Gators and love college football. And college football is great when FSU is great. Rooting for the noles to make that comeback
I agree. I'm a die hard Gator went through the dumps of 4-8 but I grew up up on the Glory of college football in the state of Florida. We love to trash each other but it should be a rivalry of respect (if you grew up in it) and not hate.
@@josephm3615 this wasn’t on JT or KZ though. Norvell and his staff lost this game. Maybe some of it is all the penalties and dropped passes, but this wasn’t a QB problem. This is a coaching and execution problem. As a UCF fan I have watched KZ up close and he is a baller - but you have to have the cast around him and the coaching staff to get it done.
We don’t have the cast so he doesn’t fit this team. We’re a running team and he doesn’t help with that and as a passer he’s not head and shoulders above Jordan Travis
This is pathetic coaching I see 2 or 3 wins max. How many seasons b4 they fire Norvell because if Taggart lost like this fans would be threatening his life. Taggart n Jimbo are laughing at us... SMDH
@@goober3393 Yeah Taggart laughing cause he was the scapegoat and all was supposed to be great since we getting all these "great recruits" now. Atleast he getting smashed by power houses like UF.
Corey is spot on with his analysis and criticism and shows the frustration shared by so many. Thanks for your coverage and being the voice of so many fans. God help our Seminoles!!!!
Off top. You guys were right. “Non” FSU fan here (not a hater btw) I’m a Bama fan since birth (1986). Just had to see reactions on this FCS loss after frankly a wonderful game last week. How does this happen? Whew. How? Anyhow. We need you guys back to the top. Truly am a cheerleader to see FSU rise up once again.
You guys are saving Norvells ass!!!! This coaching staff looks like trash. This is the low of all lows. This is not a FSU football problem, this is a FSU athletic department program. Not giving a National champion coach like Jimbo what we wanted to say at FSU was the first and the biggest problem for FSU. Everything after that will be a downhill fall and a up hill battle.
@@Supergoat76 I'm full aware of what people are saying TODAY, but many NOLES fans were happy with a LOST to ND even though Norvell put us in bad positions. Going for a 4th and 3yrds with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter on your own 30yrd line.(SHM) Was that not a bad call? Than to ice your own kicker at FSU of all place!!! I'm fully aware of what people are saying TODAY, but this staff looks no better than in did last year. This staff looks no better than the previous coaching staff also. FSU has an athletic department program concerning football is the point I'm making. Norvell and his staff are not cut out for the level FSU once was. I'm sad to watch this shit show.
For the most part I agree. I don't think Norvell should have been hired, just like Taggert should not have been hired. I don't fault the play calling last week against notre dame. Neville did not ice the kicker. He challenged a call that put the kicker 10 yards closer to the end zone. Any coach would and should do that. 4th down in their own territory....jimbo did that practically every other game, and usually worked. But because it is norville and not jimbo....i guess we can't have any of that.
ND squeeks by FSU last week...JSU gets beat 31-0 last week....ND lucky to beat Toledo 32-29, GA crushes UAB 56-7, FSU loses to JSU 20-17....that says it all. FSU is under coached, no recievers, no QBs, and our best athletes are our RBs and we refuse to shove the ba down a l'esser opponents throat because we want to spread out instead of play action. We block better running...also im sick of Defenders stepping over the opponent after every tackle, acting like they are tangled up. Its bush league begging for attention. They'd do well to play smarter and make play once in awhile
Nah nah 🤣 just last week most of you got on here and acted like Milton was the second coming of Jesus. And yall crowned Norvell a great coach as if he has done anything at FSU. Well he did, he loss to a FCS school. An embarrassment of riches. This is sad. This HC and his hand picked staff he brought in should be fired.
Ol shifty eyed Corey always brings the goods! I sincerely appreciate you fellas bringing us all this immediate content every week! Too bad our team sucks. Luckily, Warchant is rock ass solid!
@@kennethwilkins7493 Willie is over at FAU sending that program into the toilet like he did the previous 3 programs. Let's put some of this on Norvell.
If somebody wants to say Willie deserves some blame....i can't fault them completely. A lot of those bums on that field were recruited by Willie. Not saying I agree with that thought process....but they are not wrong.
@@kennethwilkins7493 you must be awfully young if you think this is the worst loss in school history. I go back aways so I am used to this heart break.
@@kennethwilkins7493 countless Miami games back in 80s and 90s. The 87 and 91 Miami games stood out the most. The 99 and 01 national championships. 97 gaytors game. All losses. I could go on.
Guys listen, I am a UCF fan and have adopted FSU this season because of KZ. You guys have a baller, but Norvell and the staff along with poor execution by defense and receivers is doing this to you. KZ needs to have a cast that will help him get it done in order to win. Those guys need to step it up with NOT dropping passes. Coaching needs to make a damn decision on who is QB. I’ve watched KZ play and he will you to win, but the team and coaching HAVE to do their part.
I told y'all that Notre Dame is overrated, and that our performance last week, was not a good barometer for this team. Notre Dame should have lost to Toledo today; point blank. Jacksonville State lost to UAB last week , 31 to 0, with 154 yards of total offense. UAB got beat by Georgia 56-7, with 174 yards of total offense !!! What does it all mean? Simple, we suck, and we'll be lucky to go .500 this season.
So who will Nole fans blame this year? The AD for "hiring" Jimbo for leaving a mess? Taggart for being a "fraud" The players for not being disciplined Or Coach "Nutvell" finally?
@@Unpopularopinion2024 last year?? My fault i thought we were talking about this year. You know...this year...where the coach got to get in spring ball and full practice slate. Fans in the stands and recruiting.. sure, after last night he gets thrown on the hot seat because his players obviously did not want to be there. And the offense was asleep. It all falls on the coach.
THEN YOU LET THE OTHER TEAM PLANT THEIR FLAG IN THE SEMINOLE EMBLEM IF I HAD PADS ON I WOULD OF RAN AND KNOCKED HIM ON HIS REAR LOOKS LIKE THIS TEAM HAS SOME REAL ISSUES UNREAL CONGRATULATIONS NOLES YOU LET JSU MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE FOOLS ON ESPN HIGHLIGHT PLAYS FROM SATURDAY SICK
I'm Going To Wrk on Monday n Talk and Yell Loud All day..When My Hurricanes lost to FIU I Was Sick n They ( FSU FANS) BERATED ME BAD! PAYBACK IS A BITCH!!! 😂 THIS IS DAMN NEAR A HBCU TEAM....( Less Talented) This Made My Weekend...THANKS JSU
I told people I wanted to see how they would come out to play after the way that they played against ND. Just like last year when we beat NC and we didn't win another game after that
Had a fan at work that was hyped about ND, I agreed. I loved the effort but we lost and this week will tell a lot. Have to come out and dominate JSU, team the teams your suppose to beat and leave no question.
They did Taggart dirty this is the result. Said it last week the qb was trash. Feel good stories don't equal wins. Why kid gloves with this guy? You guys blasted Willie quick.
As a FSU fan this one hurts, Helton dropped a TD in the first. They took this as a practice and look at the results. Bad decisions within this game, especially on the defensive side of the ball. We need some proven coaches, not these hype man that speak great......Embarrassing
As a die hard NOLES fan since 1990, these past 5 years have been super difficult. Last night's game was a complete embarrassment. Last night was embarrassing. I will ALWAYS be a NOLE win, lose, or tie but we need to get better !!! I hope that our football team most especially the coaches do a better job next week. ONE LOVE from Beautiful Pensacola!!!! Go NOLES!!!
Them bone head coaching staff was terrible last week. We giving credit to them for being close to a win last week. Norvell coached at Memphis. This is not the coaching staff that will take us anywhere.
Lifelong FSU fan ... Never thought I would say this ... Send em all home including the coaches. If this is as good as we can do, mat as well forfeit the rest of the games. We can't possibly be more embarrassed than what we were subjected to last night. Ca not catch, can not defend a pass but can sure give the refs a work out. No
Not gloating or picking a fight, but this was Florida a few years ago. We lost at home to a FCS team we had no business losing to. I can only say that these tough games and season will pass.
This one hurts. I’m concerned about the mentality and drive of the team. The loss to ND and now this one! I hope the guys can pick themselves up and be ready for Wake. Win or lose I’ll be chanting and chopping! GO NOLES!!!
What can you say other than embarrassing! This will cost FSU in recruiting! Play calls have to change. Undisciplined play on the field has to change. At home loss like this will destroy recruiting! It’s killed everything this staff has tried to build. Umass may be an interesting game if they show up like this. Norvell needs to be looking for new coordinators and now! Getting fans in that stadium won’t even happen playing like this.
Honestly, i'm not gonna question the decision to get rid of Willie. I think it was the right move. BUT ANSWER ME THIS. Jimbos teams, they quit. The Houston loss in 2015 Oregon loss in 2014 and the louisville blowout in 2016. Then willie came along, alot of the same players and his team quit. Here's what baffles me. After all the transfers and new faces etc. How is this team with a coach that should be instilling his culture why do they look just as bad. We're 4 years into this 3 coaches and the same result. There has to be a common denominator here
@@kennethwilkins7493 not my point. Willie Taggart wasn't gonna get it done here. I've never believed in Norvell from the day he walked onto campus. All im saying is 3 coaches high turnover of players and they still do shit they did in 2016. I mean jesus 5 years of giving up with 3 different coaches?? Maybe these coaches are being held back somehow. It just more seems like a athletic department issue than a coach or player issue.
You guys summed up my feelings exactly. We need to start winning and winning big. It’s taggart speak all over again. “We will get better” while never improving.
And continue to coach and play like this. Watch some of the recruits start to decommit. Probably just helped those not commited with their choice by taking FSU off their list.
Our defensive backs coach doesn't know what to do against the Hail Mary?? He should resign immediately. And the targeting call that one should be off the team
Watching this now on April 21, 2024 and it’s unbelievable how far they’ve come since this horrendous loss. So glad they are finally back where they should be as a football program.
@@Supergoat76 lost to FCS school at home let that sink in man. Keeps putting the commercial feel good scam Milton out there. Has not won a game he has been a part of yet. Norvell on a role. And the goons at Warchant still making excuses in the videos.
Poor coaching. Almost feel like they didn’t put the players in a position to win. Not to take away from the fact the players just didn’t play FSU football. So much wrong with this game.
As a JSU grad and lifelong fan, I can tell you what FSU was thinking. They were thinking “okay, we have an easy week with this little college. We are going to pay them to come down and be a live scrimmage for us and then we can focus on what matters.” That just happens for us FCS schools. Honestly, it was a great game. I don’t think FSU has anything to be ashamed of. Sometimes you win and sometimes you don’t. That is why we play the game.
Great analysis, Gentlemen. Without necessarily meaning to, your accurate rendition of the multiple examples of coaching buffoonery that occurred in this game is a painful indictment of Norvell and the coaching staff. We expected so much more from these coaches. I am legitimately concerned that this may be as disastrous a hire as Taggart's was, albeit for different reasons. Taggart failed to have players ready to play. Norvell and his staff are repeatedly failing to make good coaching decisions/moves. A crushing defeat.
There are no excuses for this game. The coaches called a horrible game. The players played a horrible game. The refs called horrible penalties. The ACC network should be shut down. The commercials were horrible. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dillingham is who everyone should be fuming about. Anytime you throw a fade on 4th down, that shows you have no faith in your own playcalling and are just hoping your guy gets the ball. Corbin and Ward are by far the best players on offense and should be getting 10-20 touches each. Toafili is a good change up but he's good for 5-10 touches max. The line is far better at run blocking and it builds their confidence. Milton can be a good game manager, but he hasn't shown he can carry the team. The wr's are not good at all. Everyone w/ eyes saw that we got back into the game vs ND by running the ball. Why are we trying cute little gadget plays when we don't have a comfortable lead? Stick to the basics, especially against such an inferior team. Defense had zero help for the O, but did well until that last play. I don't think Fuller should be getting so much heat, but Dillingham can go today and Norvell should def be on the hot seat. If the recruits go, then he should too. I thought the embarrassment was over. Had such high hopes for this team.
If a head coach in football doesn't actually call plays on defense or offense then is the bad play calling on the head coach or the person/persons calling those plays? Like Nick Saban doesn't call plays he has an offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator for that. And how many times does that happen before the offensive and/or defensive coordinators are fired and new ones are brought in? And how times of that happening do you fire a head coach? That's the question. Because this defensive secondary was gashed by Notre Dame for 366yds and Jacksonville St had 242yds. Thats over 600yds in 2 games. The offensive play calling isn't much better. The direct snaps, bad 4th down play calls, not running Corbin and Ward more early on and consistently, poor reading of jsu's coverages, the throws, the dropped passes, and so much more. Just abandoning using Travis at all. It was a complete failure on both sides.
Norvell may not call the plays but he allows it. The difference with saban is he takes his coaches to task after a bad play call not after a whole game full
I think it's more not preparing the team. There way more athelitic etc. They just don't know what ot when to do things. Like catching the ball, reading blitzes.o doubt there even practicing.
As a Miami I’m loving it. I remember some fsu fan giving me hell when we lost to FIU. Well whoever you are what do you have to say now? Congrats because this is now worst than losing to FIU.
@Ali Khan sure but at least we didn’t lose tonight. App St is the best G5 has to offer. They would have beaten y’all. Y’all lost to an FCS team. That’s what D3 ball?
This offense will never be more than below average. It is a single read passing attack. That makes it easy on the QB, when that read is open. If its not, now the QB is scrambling around and looking for an open receiver. The other big element to the offense is the read option game, which is eliminated by having a non mobile QB. Defensively, what a mess. FSU has some talent on defense, but the DC is a joke.
Non fsu fan here watching for fun. 🐊🐊🐊 In all seriousness, Taggert was on the hot seat at this point. There were articles talking about him being fired. Where are the Norvell articles?
@@tallflguy were broke as shit we can't fire anyone stuck with this pos🤣 we gotta ride this pony the fact you can't admit WT was fucking trash is racism in itself.
@@BelieveInMe1986 You are right about the program being broke, but you defending Norvell proves my point. Hard truth, WT is a better coach than Norvell and it’s sad that you can’t see that. This clown is 3-8, and will be 3-9 after wake forest. It’s also sad that a big part of the fan base won’t call for his job because he is the right color and has a southern accent. Shameful.
@@tallflguy no way in hell is WT a better coach then anybody under him every single game we had multiple illegal formation penalties, could get the right amount of men on the field, once we could line up correctly we couldn't even run the play because no one knew it. Wt was trash and didn't need to be here Mike Norvell is turning out to be trash and doesn't need to be here. At the end of the day black/white they both fucking suck
Defense should’ve never even been in that situation in the first place. The offensive game plan was atrocious and the playcalling was a perfect example of “playing with your food”. Utter embarrassment by Norvell and company. A lot of his flaws were exposed tonight. The fact that Deloach is out the first half against Wake next week is the cherry on top.
Corey Clark is the only good thing about FSU football currently.
You're probably right
I like all of them - AH, Ira, Jeff, Gene, etc.
I'm just stuck on 17pts at home to a fcs team
I agree 👍
Exactly!!
That should never happen.
Yes, and the week after putting up 38 on a "top 10 team"
Treat him the same way you would Willie ! This is unacceptable
All they did trash the coach
What fire MN? FSU is broke, WT took all the loot.
This is revisionist history. They were never tough on Willie either. They sucked up to him just as much or perhaps more.
@@marchorowitz5516 you’re absolutely right. After the coach is gone, that’s when we start hearing what a disaster he was the entire time behind the scenes
@@kristophstjames4143 So is Norvel,he sucks,Nice guy though but not a good coach
Im a Canes fan so this is bittersweet for me. Obviously i like it when Fsu loses but i understand and have felt this type of loss. But seeing Fsu and Miami struggle with lesser teams is just sad! I wanna see our teams have good years and matter again.
It's sad because Miami and fsu were once mighty Powerhouses growing up watching it's hard to believe these programs hit rock bottom
I miss they days where both were top 10 schools. And every game we played against each other were dog fights.
As a Gators fan, I miss the good old days when Florida, Florida State, and Miami were dominating their respective conferences, and all three were Top 10.
Same. I hate Miami and Florida, but those were the best games and was so much fun when we were all good
Likewise. I've been rooting for Miami too. College football is so much better when we both beat the breaks off everyone else and have a dogfight for the state and national title.
Two weeks in a row dumb defense call in critical situation, last week 3 and 17, this week base defense with 6 sec left
Facts
@@henrywashington5038 a you from ft Lauderdale
As a 41 Year Seminole Fan the whole issue is very simple just as it has been for the past 4 seasons........Its called "Basics" FSU players on both side of the Ball are Failing to do "Basic" techniques of football...Tackling, Blocking and are Failing to Execute plays.
That’s on the coaching
Penalties!!!!!!!!!!
Wake forest is going to crush us badly! Team moral is broken. It’s a road game at that, and wake plays extremely hard every week. My goodness I didn’t think this could get worse but yikes!!
Mike Norvell better wake up and get his head out of his ass fast
Gators fan here. Not to gloat because I watch you guys every week. I love all the warchant lineup, everyone is first class. I'll just say I love my Gators and love college football. And college football is great when FSU is great. Rooting for the noles to make that comeback
Felt the same with the 4-8ers. The first couple of years are fun but football is better for the whole state when the big 3 are contenders
I agree. I'm a die hard Gator went through the dumps of 4-8 but I grew up up on the Glory of college football in the state of Florida. We love to trash each other but it should be a rivalry of respect (if you grew up in it) and not hate.
@sberry55 Die hard FSU fan and my beef ain’t with the gators. It’s Miami
@sberry55 nah it used to be but UF fans aren’t that bad it really just do be UM
Norvell is still winless when McKenzie Milton is involved. Incredible.
I leave team if I was JT if that scab starts next week. After being the starter of the team that lost to FCS school at home.
@@josephm3615 this wasn’t on JT or KZ though. Norvell and his staff lost this game. Maybe some of it is all the penalties and dropped passes, but this wasn’t a QB problem. This is a coaching and execution problem. As a UCF fan I have watched KZ up close and he is a baller - but you have to have the cast around him and the coaching staff to get it done.
We don’t have the cast so he doesn’t fit this team. We’re a running team and he doesn’t help with that and as a passer he’s not head and shoulders above Jordan Travis
@@pmc9593 I disagree. You have the cast but mistakes and coaching have to be cleaned up. You guys are FSU for crying out loud.
@@pmc9593 I think KZ is better passer because he can make decisions faster.
This loss made me physically sick. I never thought I'd see the day FSU would lose to a FCS team.
A loss like this was inevitable.
@@jls5480 no, it wasn't. It happened, yes, but nice 20/20 hindsight comment.
Atleast we didn't have to play duke and lose to them. What is it, 22-0 vs duke. They had some teams that could have beat us had we played.
Wakeup and Jeff Cameron should be pretty interesting this week.
This is pathetic coaching I see 2 or 3 wins max. How many seasons b4 they fire Norvell because if Taggart lost like this fans would be threatening his life. Taggart n Jimbo are laughing at us... SMDH
I doubt Taggart laughing he sucked too
Who are you guys beating? Umass? maybe. Brace yourself for a winless season. It is great to be a Florida gator 🐊.
@@antonioorellana504 Umass,Syracuse, NC state possible miracle wins
@@goober3393 Yeah Taggart laughing cause he was the scapegoat and all was supposed to be great since we getting all these "great recruits" now. Atleast he getting smashed by power houses like UF.
Norvell good he sleeping well with full job security
Im here in 2023 after we've won 16 in a row and just beat miami for 3 yrs in a row. Currently ranked #4 in nation
Year two and the secondary still looks confused.
Corey is spot on with his analysis and criticism and shows the frustration shared by so many. Thanks for your coverage and being the voice of so many fans. God help our Seminoles!!!!
Off top.
You guys were right. “Non” FSU fan here (not a hater btw) I’m a Bama fan since birth (1986).
Just had to see reactions on this FCS loss after frankly a wonderful game last week. How does this happen? Whew. How? Anyhow. We need you guys back to the top. Truly am a cheerleader to see FSU rise up once again.
Hello no. STFU. Let FSU rot and burn
Nah. They’re good for the sport. This loss was unacceptable. Frankly… coaching did it (based solely on the last 4 minutes alone)
@@coreyatkins2162 Naw. The sport of CFB is already so damn good. Doesn't need FSU to be relevant one bit.
Thanks for the sentiments bro. Ask this other guy when was UFs Undeafeated NC? I’ll wait 😂
You guys are saving Norvells ass!!!! This coaching staff looks like trash. This is the low of all lows. This is not a FSU football problem, this is a FSU athletic department program. Not giving a National champion coach like Jimbo what we wanted to say at FSU was the first and the biggest problem for FSU. Everything after that will be a downhill fall and a up hill battle.
Who is saving Norvell ass?? Everybody is destroying him. Maybe you should read the newspaper or scroll down these comments.
@@Supergoat76 I'm full aware of what people are saying TODAY, but many NOLES fans were happy with a LOST to ND even though Norvell put us in bad positions. Going for a 4th and 3yrds with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter on your own 30yrd line.(SHM) Was that not a bad call? Than to ice your own kicker at FSU of all place!!! I'm fully aware of what people are saying TODAY, but this staff looks no better than in did last year. This staff looks no better than the previous coaching staff also. FSU has an athletic department program concerning football is the point I'm making. Norvell and his staff are not cut out for the level FSU once was. I'm sad to watch this shit show.
For the most part I agree. I don't think Norvell should have been hired, just like Taggert should not have been hired. I don't fault the play calling last week against notre dame. Neville did not ice the kicker. He challenged a call that put the kicker 10 yards closer to the end zone. Any coach would and should do that. 4th down in their own territory....jimbo did that practically every other game, and usually worked. But because it is norville and not jimbo....i guess we can't have any of that.
ND squeeks by FSU last week...JSU gets beat 31-0 last week....ND lucky to beat Toledo 32-29, GA crushes UAB 56-7, FSU loses to JSU 20-17....that says it all. FSU is under coached, no recievers, no QBs, and our best athletes are our RBs and we refuse to shove the ba down a l'esser opponents throat because we want to spread out instead of play action. We block better running...also im sick of Defenders stepping over the opponent after every tackle, acting like they are tangled up. Its bush league begging for attention. They'd do well to play smarter and make play once in awhile
Nah nah 🤣 just last week most of you got on here and acted like Milton was the second coming of Jesus. And yall crowned Norvell a great coach as if he has done anything at FSU. Well he did, he loss to a FCS school. An embarrassment of riches. This is sad. This HC and his hand picked staff he brought in should be fired.
Exactly
Preach
And 3 yrs later this HC and his staff should be fired.
Ol shifty eyed Corey always brings the goods! I sincerely appreciate you fellas bringing us all this immediate content every week! Too bad our team sucks. Luckily, Warchant is rock ass solid!
Nobody talking about Kenny Dillingham poor play calling having two QBs was ridiculous a lot of blame goes on him and fuller as well it’s sad
It was for one series. 3 minutes max. What about the rest of the game.
Call a spade a spade.. Norvell is worse than Taggart. Prove me wrong.
Way worst than taggert
Now you know they can't prove that, he proved that last year but they had "THE EXCUSE " but they're going to just say to save face
@z a i r e w o r l d if you're not a fan what the heck you're doing here you got lost looking for weed
And these frauds will defend norvell. If
The skin color was reversed Taggart would still be here I bet. Frauds = warchant staff
Randy needs to take over the defense
Thank you
A division 2 school planted a flag on FSU’s fifty and the coach still has a job
I just came to see what excuses yall have for Norvell.The last coach was trash.....AND SO IS THIS ONE
Yep they got exposed for sure. Making excuses for sure. Done with Warchant. Or is it whitechant
@@kennethwilkins7493 Willie is over at FAU sending that program into the toilet like he did the previous 3 programs. Let's put some of this on Norvell.
If somebody wants to say Willie deserves some blame....i can't fault them completely. A lot of those bums on that field were recruited by Willie. Not saying I agree with that thought process....but they are not wrong.
@@kennethwilkins7493 you must be awfully young if you think this is the worst loss in school history. I go back aways so I am used to this heart break.
@@kennethwilkins7493 countless Miami games back in 80s and 90s. The 87 and 91 Miami games stood out the most. The 99 and 01 national championships. 97 gaytors game. All losses. I could go on.
Guys listen, I am a UCF fan and have adopted FSU this season because of KZ. You guys have a baller, but Norvell and the staff along with poor execution by defense and receivers is doing this to you. KZ needs to have a cast that will help him get it done in order to win. Those guys need to step it up with NOT dropping passes. Coaching needs to make a damn decision on who is QB. I’ve watched KZ play and he will you to win, but the team and coaching HAVE to do their part.
We have come a long way Nole fans
Coaching really fucked this up
I haven't even pressed play I just hope they don't try to excuse this L
Didn't really try to excuse but they down played the hell out of it
They didn't treat this guy like they did Taggart. The truth always comes out
There ain’t no love fest for Mike Norvell. He is no different than your boy Willie. Both are inadequate for the job.
@@kennethwilkins7493 exactly
I told y'all that Notre Dame is overrated, and that our performance last week, was not a good barometer for this team. Notre Dame should have lost to Toledo today; point blank. Jacksonville State lost to UAB last week , 31 to 0, with 154 yards of total offense. UAB got beat by Georgia 56-7, with 174 yards of total offense !!! What does it all mean? Simple, we suck, and we'll be lucky to go .500 this season.
LIONEL YOU NAILED IT TOLEDO ALMOST DID IN SOUTH BEND
We wouldn't beat UMass 0-12 this year with all the transfer's
Luckily the entire ACC sucks so you might have a decent record
Thank you Cory (and Ira). I couldn't fall asleep without your wisdom.
Who's getting fired? Fuller or Norvell?
Fuller first and then Norvell if this looks just as bad after that.
It needs to happen now. And Randy Shannon runs the defense going forward.
I would fire them both...than rehire them.... just so I could fire them again.
Fire both their asses
So who will Nole fans blame this year?
The AD for "hiring"
Jimbo for leaving a mess?
Taggart for being a "fraud"
The players for not being disciplined
Or Coach "Nutvell" finally?
What do you mean " finally" ?? Coach has been her 10 games. But he is getting the blame. Who else do you want to blame? The fans,??
Norvell should RESIGN
@@Supergoat76 What!? last year us "fans" was laying the blame on the players and Taggart?
@@jls5480 no "Fired"!!
@@Unpopularopinion2024 last year?? My fault i thought we were talking about this year. You know...this year...where the coach got to get in spring ball and full practice slate. Fans in the stands and recruiting.. sure, after last night he gets thrown on the hot seat because his players obviously did not want to be there. And the offense was asleep. It all falls on the coach.
"There's something brewing in Tallahassee" 🤣🤣🤣
These are the same guys who said FSU was showing improvement
Last week, literally everyone was saying that.
Of course, this is low IQ entertainment
They did "show improvement" last week. This week they showed bad coaching decisions, average (at best) talent, and a lack of discipline.
@@williamlewis3977 Toledo forced ND to bench a qb who looked like a All American against FSU
"All time display of buffoonery." Lol
THEN YOU LET THE OTHER TEAM PLANT THEIR FLAG IN THE SEMINOLE EMBLEM IF I HAD PADS ON I WOULD OF RAN AND KNOCKED HIM ON HIS REAR LOOKS LIKE THIS TEAM HAS SOME REAL ISSUES UNREAL CONGRATULATIONS NOLES YOU LET JSU MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE FOOLS ON ESPN HIGHLIGHT PLAYS FROM SATURDAY SICK
This was a fun trip down memory lane 😂
I'm Going To Wrk on Monday n Talk and Yell Loud All day..When My Hurricanes lost to FIU I Was Sick n They ( FSU FANS) BERATED ME BAD! PAYBACK IS A BITCH!!! 😂 THIS IS DAMN NEAR A HBCU TEAM....( Less Talented) This Made My Weekend...THANKS JSU
And fsu still managed to beat Miami...
I told people I wanted to see how they would come out to play after the way that they played against ND. Just like last year when we beat NC and we didn't win another game after that
ND is not good. Overrated
I get your point, but we actually won our last game against duke
Had a fan at work that was hyped about ND, I agreed. I loved the effort but we lost and this week will tell a lot. Have to come out and dominate JSU, team the teams your suppose to beat and leave no question.
Fuller doesn’t understand down and distance . It’s time to turn it over to Randy Shannon
They did Taggart dirty this is the result. Said it last week the qb was trash. Feel good stories don't equal wins. Why kid gloves with this guy? You guys blasted Willie quick.
You know why
I can't watch this team no more! I'm depressed asf right now. Smh.
As a FSU fan this one hurts, Helton dropped a TD in the first. They took this as a practice and look at the results. Bad decisions within this game, especially on the defensive side of the ball. We need some proven coaches, not these hype man that speak great......Embarrassing
As a die hard NOLES fan since 1990, these past 5 years have been super difficult. Last night's game was a complete embarrassment. Last night was embarrassing. I will ALWAYS be a NOLE win, lose, or tie but we need to get better !!! I hope that our football team most especially the coaches do a better job next week. ONE LOVE from Beautiful Pensacola!!!! Go NOLES!!!
Damn. I had to laugh my ass too about this kind of loss. Only way to get over the redicilous nature of this insane ending.
Worst loss ever for us. He better get his shit together or go coach at FAU. Hindsight is 20/20 we should have given Jimbo whatever he wanted.
FAU WON LAST NIGHT
Them bone head coaching staff was terrible last week. We giving credit to them for being close to a win last week. Norvell coached at Memphis. This is not the coaching staff that will take us anywhere.
Norvell is definitely moving to the hot seat.
Total embarrassment. Coaching staff is clueless
Can't get ACC NETWORK. Does anybody know if it is on the radio? What station on FM? It use to be 100.9 but not now.
I had to come back and watch this to reflect how far this program has come since then.
Return the old logo! The new one has been a curse!
They shouldn't have never caved in and changed it we soon will be petitioning to get it back
corey needs to get hired as a time management coach.
The new and improved "Choke at Doak"
Offensive and defensive coordinators gotta go! Corbin needs to be a 30 attempt back, and wide receivers need to catch the dang ball!
Happy anniversary!
Mike Norvell should have been fired after the game. You are the CEO of the program and these losses are on him.
Lifelong FSU fan ... Never thought I would say this ... Send em all home including the coaches. If this is as good as we can do, mat as well forfeit the rest of the games. We can't possibly be more embarrassed than what we were subjected to last night. Ca not catch, can not defend a pass but can sure give the refs a work out. No
Not gloating or picking a fight, but this was Florida a few years ago. We lost at home to a FCS team we had no business losing to. I can only say that these tough games and season will pass.
This one hurts. I’m concerned about the mentality and drive of the team. The loss to ND and now this one! I hope the guys can pick themselves up and be ready for Wake. Win or lose I’ll be chanting and chopping! GO NOLES!!!
What can you say other than embarrassing! This will cost FSU in recruiting!
Play calls have to change. Undisciplined play on the field has to change.
At home loss like this will destroy recruiting! It’s killed everything this staff has tried to build.
Umass may be an interesting game if they show up like this.
Norvell needs to be looking for new coordinators and now!
Getting fans in that stadium won’t even happen playing like this.
I’m just gonna keep saying this: Losing might just be our style now.
Honestly, i'm not gonna question the decision to get rid of Willie. I think it was the right move. BUT ANSWER ME THIS. Jimbos teams, they quit. The Houston loss in 2015 Oregon loss in 2014 and the louisville blowout in 2016. Then willie came along, alot of the same players and his team quit. Here's what baffles me. After all the transfers and new faces etc. How is this team with a coach that should be instilling his culture why do they look just as bad. We're 4 years into this 3 coaches and the same result. There has to be a common denominator here
@@kennethwilkins7493 not my point. Willie Taggart wasn't gonna get it done here. I've never believed in Norvell from the day he walked onto campus. All im saying is 3 coaches high turnover of players and they still do shit they did in 2016. I mean jesus 5 years of giving up with 3 different coaches?? Maybe these coaches are being held back somehow. It just more seems like a athletic department issue than a coach or player issue.
You guys summed up my feelings exactly. We need to start winning and winning big. It’s taggart speak all over again. “We will get better” while never improving.
Last game was shit too Notre Dame is trash
Our offense at least was exciting
Yet undefeated. ☘️🤔Hmmm
And continue to coach and play like this. Watch some of the recruits start to decommit. Probably just helped those not commited with their choice by taking FSU off their list.
Our defensive backs coach doesn't know what to do against the Hail Mary?? He should resign immediately. And the targeting call that one should be off the team
It's the coach. Or does that only apply with Willie.
@@josephm3615 yes it's the coach heads should roll
Haven't checked in here since the big Boise State loss. FSU fans were beside themselves over that loss. I'm guessing they're suicidal now.
0-3 ready?
Alan Karajic response to “no offense you kick for JSU”. Well I’m the kicker on the only team to be an FCS team to beat the Noles.
Watching this now on April 21, 2024 and it’s unbelievable how far they’ve come since this horrendous loss. So glad they are finally back where they should be as a football program.
Norvell is 3-8 as the FSU HC....chew on that.
Look at the comment i put up in here. I want someone to ponder that and I would love an answer
Still getting treated better than Willie. Truth always comes out.
@@josephm3615 Willie got 30 million. And treated with kid gloves.
@@Supergoat76 lost to FCS school at home let that sink in man. Keeps putting the commercial feel good scam Milton out there. Has not won a game he has been a part of yet.
Norvell on a role. And the goons at Warchant still making excuses in the videos.
@@josephm3615 | So so true. I totally agree with ya.
Exactly Corey everything you said
Fuller gotta go
So what beast receivers have we has since Dugans was hired?
Boys if only you could’ve seen where we’d be now. @Warchant let my man Corey know he had a great transformation from then to now
love the honesty you both give. ton of info and great critique
Poor coaching. Almost feel like they didn’t put the players in a position to win. Not to take away from the fact the players just didn’t play FSU football. So much wrong with this game.
Thumbs up for the great attitude and a shout out to the non-FSU fans here, of which I am one.
As a JSU grad and lifelong fan, I can tell you what FSU was thinking. They were thinking “okay, we have an easy week with this little college. We are going to pay them to come down and be a live scrimmage for us and then we can focus on what matters.” That just happens for us FCS schools.
Honestly, it was a great game. I don’t think FSU has anything to be ashamed of. Sometimes you win and sometimes you don’t. That is why we play the game.
I'm a Tennessee fan and misery loves company. Welcome FSU!!!!!🤣
One thing I'll say about FSU is that they have a VERY interesting football team. People love watching em! 😂😄
We don’t have a starting qb Milton isn’t it either
Great analysis, Gentlemen. Without necessarily meaning to, your accurate rendition of the multiple examples of coaching buffoonery that occurred in this game is a painful indictment of Norvell and the coaching staff. We expected so much more from these coaches. I am legitimately concerned that this may be as disastrous a hire as Taggart's was, albeit for different reasons. Taggart failed to have players ready to play. Norvell and his staff are repeatedly failing to make good coaching decisions/moves. A crushing defeat.
And I thought our loss to Illinois was embarrassing.
Trash>willie taggart> mike norvell
There are no excuses for this game. The coaches called a horrible game. The players played a horrible game. The refs called horrible penalties. The ACC network should be shut down. The commercials were horrible. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now maybe you boobs will understand why Jimbo bolted asap
He knew FSU was a cess pool
@@noshotnova2432 no cause he was a crybaby and control freak
Dillingham is who everyone should be fuming about. Anytime you throw a fade on 4th down, that shows you have no faith in your own playcalling and are just hoping your guy gets the ball. Corbin and Ward are by far the best players on offense and should be getting 10-20 touches each. Toafili is a good change up but he's good for 5-10 touches max. The line is far better at run blocking and it builds their confidence. Milton can be a good game manager, but he hasn't shown he can carry the team. The wr's are not good at all. Everyone w/ eyes saw that we got back into the game vs ND by running the ball. Why are we trying cute little gadget plays when we don't have a comfortable lead? Stick to the basics, especially against such an inferior team.
Defense had zero help for the O, but did well until that last play. I don't think Fuller should be getting so much heat, but Dillingham can go today and Norvell should def be on the hot seat. If the recruits go, then he should too. I thought the embarrassment was over. Had such high hopes for this team.
Well said!
Please throw that damn wildcat out the damn window
And fucking burn it
This is the greatest video I have ever seen. Hey how much money do they still owe the other guy?
If a head coach in football doesn't actually call plays on defense or offense then is the bad play calling on the head coach or the person/persons calling those plays?
Like Nick Saban doesn't call plays he has an offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator for that. And how many times does that happen before the offensive and/or defensive coordinators are fired and new ones are brought in?
And how times of that happening do you fire a head coach?
That's the question. Because this defensive secondary was gashed by Notre Dame for 366yds and Jacksonville St had 242yds. Thats over 600yds in 2 games.
The offensive play calling isn't much better. The direct snaps, bad 4th down play calls, not running Corbin and Ward more early on and consistently, poor reading of jsu's coverages, the throws, the dropped passes, and so much more. Just abandoning using Travis at all. It was a complete failure on both sides.
Norvell may not call the plays but he allows it. The difference with saban is he takes his coaches to task after a bad play call not after a whole game full
I think it's more not preparing the team. There way more athelitic etc. They just don't know what ot when to do things. Like catching the ball, reading blitzes.o doubt there even practicing.
@@lavaughnfla518 but all that's on coaching and the way they claim this coaching staff is so detailed oriented this shouldn't be a problem
We gone beat tf out norvell if he loses to wake. This loss is UNACCEPTABLE
Absolutely right, even though we won, it felt like a loss. So yes, I'm here to cheer up.
Go Canes! []_[] !!!!!
As a Miami I’m loving it. I remember some fsu fan giving me hell when we lost to FIU. Well whoever you are what do you have to say now? Congrats because this is now worst than losing to FIU.
Got some Canes over here!
go touch grass, Eddie, the Seminoles have real estate in your head booooooooo
@@manateeman6458 your noles suck bro
@Ali Khan sure but at least we didn’t lose tonight. App St is the best G5 has to offer. They would have beaten y’all. Y’all lost to an FCS team. That’s what D3 ball?
@Nick Shut up man; they won, and we lost. This shit is called REALITY!!!
This offense will never be more than below average. It is a single read passing attack. That makes it easy on the QB, when that read is open. If its not, now the QB is scrambling around and looking for an open receiver. The other big element to the offense is the read option game, which is eliminated by having a non mobile QB. Defensively, what a mess. FSU has some talent on defense, but the DC is a joke.
Jacksonville State lost to UAB 31-0 last week. let that sink in. Norvell "not" the answer. maybe 3-9 or 2-10
3-99
Odell should b the dc. Immediately we need change
Hire Deon Sanders!!!
Cornrows
Non fsu fan here watching for fun. 🐊🐊🐊
In all seriousness, Taggert was on the hot seat at this point. There were articles talking about him being fired. Where are the Norvell articles?
Exactly
Racism, that’s your answer.
@@tallflguy were broke as shit we can't fire anyone stuck with this pos🤣 we gotta ride this pony the fact you can't admit WT was fucking trash is racism in itself.
@@BelieveInMe1986 You are right about the program being broke, but you defending Norvell proves my point. Hard truth, WT is a better coach than Norvell and it’s sad that you can’t see that. This clown is 3-8, and will be 3-9 after wake forest. It’s also sad that a big part of the fan base won’t call for his job because he is the right color and has a southern accent. Shameful.
@@tallflguy no way in hell is WT a better coach then anybody under him every single game we had multiple illegal formation penalties, could get the right amount of men on the field, once we could line up correctly we couldn't even run the play because no one knew it.
Wt was trash and didn't need to be here Mike Norvell is turning out to be trash and doesn't need to be here.
At the end of the day black/white they both fucking suck
awful coaches awful players simple as that.
Defense should’ve never even been in that situation in the first place. The offensive game plan was atrocious and the playcalling was a perfect example of “playing with your food”.
Utter embarrassment by Norvell and company. A lot of his flaws were exposed tonight. The fact that Deloach is out the first half against Wake next week is the cherry on top.
He seems too candy ass and soft he better get some fire in his belly fast or he will be boxing up his stuff