SIEGE REWARDS ARE BUFFED! | Raid: Shadow Legends
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- One of the worst aspects of Siege was that the rewards were just plain terrible. The motivation to push through many of the challenges with co-ordinating your clan was ruined by lean rewards you get including years likely for Lamasu. Well, Plarium before the first siege have responded and we have revised rewards and the changes are - significant. Lets take a look!
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This is why there is a content creator program and why it is so very vital.
Rubbing the salt into the wound
@@KingKarlos1234 seriously! #LetSaphIn
so raid can have players do the work for them, and they pay them in their ingame currency LOL plariums a joke, gambling company, I guess we can't expect anything but pure profit driven
It is really nice to see that Plarium was willing to listen to feedback and make corrections/improvements right away. The biggest problem though, is that this is just arena with extra steps. It is incredibly uninspired and lazy. There are NO new mechanics and all we get is a new gearset again without expanding our max gear capacity. *yay*
There's a first for everything
Yeah, I agree with the arena with extra steps. However, imagine they introduced a big new content piece with completely new and unknown mechanics. The hardcore players would be super happy, but a lot of the more casual players would be like "OMG that's such a big time sink, I already have no time to keep up with all the new champions that are released all the time, I quit playing". So therefore, I kinda understand why they give us something that is very similar to what we already know, instead of driving away a part of the players by introducing something completely new....
I'm a clan deputy, organising this is a *lot* of work. And with the best will in the world, its like herding cats. As a somewhat casual clan (tier 2), I think interest in this will fall off rapidly without some better means of getting everyone onto the same page with what to do. Even trying to use discord, its a bit of a clusterduck :D But fair play to Plarium for upping the rewards, maybe enough to keep people trying it.
Hellhades: "5-star mythical is probably worse than 6-star legendary"
Here's a comparison for gloves with C.dam main stat and Atk% target substat.
5* mythical: 65% C.dam with 24-36% Atk (average 30%)
6* rare: 80% C.dam with 15-21% Atk (average 18%)
6* epic: 80% C.dam with 20-28% Atk (average 24%)
6* legendary: 80% C.dam with 25-35% Atk (average 30%)
Personally I think 6-star rare is better than 5* mythical. With the rare it gets 2 substats and rolls only twice. You'll double roll into the one you want 1 out of 4 times. The comparison here is with a 5* mythical that's a complete godroll. Red stat and all 4 rolls into the desired stat. Those odds are miniscule, and the 6-star rare has a 15% C.dam headstart from the main stat. You'd have to roll up that mythical to level 16 to find out if it even beats a rare that only has to roll up to level 8.
Thanks for figuring out it would take 40 years to get!! This is a great change
I think it's an almost guarantee that the champion will be power crept by the time you get it. Like you said a year is a long time in raid and I imagine there will be new champs released that are going to be better and easier to get. It was nice to see a quick reaction too this problem from plarium, that was a smart move on there part
Am i the only one that hates that I need to win a battle to get the chest? My clan is tier 6 and most of them are over seas, and as an early late game player I woke up to all the teams gone except the few they couldnt beat at all, and my defenses wiped in 1 go. Do I just not get rewards now, even though I used all 3 attacks and made the enemy waste a tean or 2 on me?
cant you fight the mana orb tower thing? or does that not count?
@@sunnydlite-t8b it says mana tower doesnt count in the chest description unfortunately
yeah that’s pretty terrible design honestly
This system is impossible to manage as a clan leader
First artifact I got was a flat atk gauntlet, reworked it and got flat atk again lmao classic raid rng
Do you know, or can you find out, if gear on defense champions is “set and locked” at the end of prep phase?
Trying to understand if you can safely gear swap for attack teams, soul cross, sintranos etc.
Or even more sinister… can you swap out gear sets mid siege to throw off attackers (add/remove stone skin for example)
I sent in a support ticket regarding "FEEDBACK" on the new game mode:
Basically mentioned that once you use the three tickets the game mode is over.
Made the suggestion that attack tickets should regenerate every few hours like Clan Boss. That will allow the game mode to last longer than two minutes.
Hope draws aren't common else that win rate will tank so hard - for both clans, it's theoretically possible for casual clans to take years if they end up having a lot of draws because matchmaking does Its job resulting in less outright domination - which translates as a loss for both clans in case of draw.
great job plarium listening to feedback and adjusting. It takes a level a humility but in the end shows a care for your customers. Hope it's a sign of better interactions.
Now that we are a day into siege I can say I am surprisingly happy with it. The reward improvements are great. The coordination toll is high, but I think that with a relatively stable clan the coordination will decrease with time. Had the rewards not been buffed I would have certainly been on the other side of the fence. I could be biased because we are currently crushing our opponent, and maybe this mode is no fun if you are losing or hard gated by an enemy defense. We had 1 clan member with more than 10 Defense wins.
Its good to see that they are listening, now they just need to sort out the matchmaking, we are an active clan but very low spend/free to play, highest power any of our players have is about 7m, then its six more of us above 5m. We are up against a clan with 28 members above 8m and then two smaller guy, lots of them up around 20m power so we cant do much at all, barely been able to kill anything so wont even get to the first chest as an alliance.
Fights need to be even to be fun, this was just a complete waste of time for us and depending on how much it cost to repair towers we might not even be able to repair them all before next battle as most members wont earn any florins at all this time around :/
Yep yep, I agree, thank you to Plarium for listening
I've pulled my first two ferals and one is Flat Def gauntlet, but with Spd and Acc. The other is shield with C.Rate and C.Dmg. The rewards will make sense to many mid-tier clans, so, good job, Plarium.
I think that the clan leader should be able to move teams around. I'm a clan leader and there are weaker players that just don't care about the chat and they occupied couple of spots in the stronghold. I should be able to remove those teams as a clan leader.
The increased rewards are nice, but this feels like a game mode you play for a bit of fun and not for the rewards. Figuring out different teams to use in the mana shrine rebattles was fun, as my top champs were quickly ineligible. But the rewards are just a nice addition and not really a driving force behind my clan's participation.
The matchmaking is a complete joke this round. Clans fighting others with 200% power, 300% ranking points and 200% activity. Just awful work, but we should have expected it as Plarium sticks hard to their motto: "Better than nothing, but not by much!". So disappointing.
3 arena battles and any lose is waste of scroll without ability to try a different team - each champion can be used 2x so I should have used my best team 2x and then try to do something with leftovers from 3x3
The Arena aura not working is something most people are not aware of
Kudos to Plarium for making the rewards more worthwhile! It's better, but still not enough in my opinion. And here's the thing. Nobody in my clan did anything in the prep phase because the rewards simply did not make it even remotely enticing. Now they have improved the rewards when it is too late to do any prep. And that doesn't even cover the fact that the relevant info for "what to do" during prep was sketchy at best. Plarium did the right thing, but too late for it to matter for the first siege. The aforementioned, plus the fact that the game tools for managing a siege are non-existent make this a huge fail for Plarium.
Did you see the new abysmal deck of fate event.
Way to ruin the event imo. It had exact same points per energy as for champ training with the rng.
Way to ruin the titan event. And there is too many cards too.
There is no way I am gonna get a 5 star mithrala due to this
I think they made this change because of your video. Thanks for what you do
I think the rewards are pretty good, now they just need more tools to help manage the Siege system itself
Alright, this is what I don't get about you, they give us unacceptably bs rewards and you rightfully call them out. They double the insultingly low rewards and you are glowing. The rewards are still crap. Took you until the end of the video to aknowledge people are not going to be able to use this set because the rewards are so low. Movement in the right direction should be applauded as long as you let them know they still have a lot of work to do to make this a viable mode. Letting them know it isn't close to enough is vital. Also, you are looking at the top 2% of the playerbase and thinking it is the average player. Average player is in tier 1.
There is also the issue of losing clans not getting anything. They literally could have copied the win/loss ratio for rewards that clash of clans instituted TEN YEARS AGO when they realized that losing clans should get something. Copy better run games shouldn't be that difficult especially when you are copying changes that were made a decade ago.
Our clan is still doing whatever we want, since everyone is pretty casual and still at mid game
Can we not see what palarium is doing? First they release completely dogshit rewards knowing people and CCs will freakout. A week later they increase the rewards to just bad and then all the CCs pat themselves on the back and tell palarium great job for responding to players. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Its the same thing they did with hydra clash chests.
They must be to busy working on the future fateless flop to notice they are being swindled.
Good stuff!
You keep focusing on Tier 5 & 6 clans. I would argue that the vast majority of clans and players are in Tier 1 & 2.
well said sir
when you lose all battles do you get anything when your clan wins?
it could happen to weaker players
edit: the average player is in tier 1 when it is like cvc
cvc brackets are (for active clans i think): 90% tier 1
2% each tier 2, 3 ,4, 5, 6
Important point: It is like 90% players are in Tier 1
I like it, but i would love to see “replay” so if a clan member lose i can see if the enemy had stoneskin
Tier 6 rewards are top notch. I was pleasantly surprised this morning
Removal of the 5* was a strong move
I did not get the reward chest, but I used all my attacks and took 3 different points.
Mode is super buggy for me. I went in to defeat one of the defense towers next to the stronghold. It was showing one defense team. I beat it and it was still showing that defense team there. Took about 3 mintutes before I went back and it showed another team to be defeated. In the meantime when I selected battle again it just crashed. It crashed the first time too. Both those were on my phone before getting on my computer.
I also went up against a team that I thought might have a fast armanz. I went in with Ankora lead and he had ukko lead. His armanz was faster than mine. His ukko had temporal chains one star. I speed boosted with arbiter. My Armanz should have been faster than his. Nope. His armanz went in and a1ed my armanz. Then my ankora went before my aramanz. Armanz and ankora were in stoneskin. My armanz is 304 speed. My ankora is 269 speed. I'm pretty damn sure that my turn meter was pushed back by probably temporal chains AND evil eye despite stoneskin.
The champion fragments being tied to wins will hurt a lot of players, loser who loses by an inch or by a mile - both getting nothing doesn't seem fair. It just encourages toxic competition and spending to win at all cost as losing gives nothing. Not the best way go about in a community event. Loser chest should have atleast 25% value compared to winners, if they have crossed a certain threshold for their tier - like taking down n defences etc or something concise. Seems like I have to join one of the big clan clusters with discord and everything, end of being in a casual chill clan - should clan events be only for the biggest hard core clans is a question worth asking.
Horrible matchmaking. We were completely destroyed after 3h while we couldn't get past their first 3 teams at all. We bring 300k teams to their 700k teams. Awesome, such cool new feature.
I'm probably not like most, where I hate pvp in this game. I dont bother with live arena because it takes forever, I cant just hit auto pick and go auto and put the phone down to do something. I hate TTA, and Classic arena is only tolerable because of the 1 champ defense angels. After playing through a couple scrolls, this mode seems just like classic arena, but with the frustration of TTA. Like someone can set up a defense, but they could just have such a strong team, nobody can crack it in your clan. Like my best arena team is around 260k, and our siege enemy has multiple 600k+ defenses. Side Note: Gear needs to be upped to 2000 pieces, energy cap needs to change for all of the expansions while still being stuck at 130.
1 yeahear, were u from?
I'm sure this was planned just for good PR, games do these things all the time, it's easy to do and you look like you hear the community. Not against it, just lets not praise to them too much, they know exactly what they are doing.
There is no need for this to be twos weeks apart this should be a twice a week event there is nothing difficult about setting defensive slots and this is ridiculous that it’s two weeks apart
siege mode is bugged as hell. keeps crashing peoples games & using tokens & such things! Typical Plarium, utter bollox.
85% of the clans are tier 1, which means the average player is tier 1
Rewards are much better, unfortunately the mode still sucks. The fact that you have to win a battle to get the rewards is awful. Make it to where you just have to place a defense and attack or something like that. We are facing an enemy clan where our lower level players have zero chance at beating anyone. The matchmaking is also garbage as expected. Facing a clan with twice our player power.
NOW I am interested due to the rewards. However, it still seems very obtuse to engage in this content given the systems within the game as is.
now the rewards from the previous rewards path should be the loser bracket rewards
You still have to take the Stronghold right? If so there is no way my clan can ever get the champion. If we don't get a bad match up with a small clan that just has more people than us we can win CvC, because I or one other person can often whale. However, that isn't an option and we are too small with too few active players for Siege to be a thing. And I'm not about to drop my clan just for a mode. Especially one I don't even like the premise of.
"Communication in this game is not great". LOL my dude, come on, tell it how it is. It's nonexistent. CC's completely ignored the fact that probably 90% of the clans out there won't have a discord and have any way to coordinate anything, just a huge oversight by Plarium and the CC's honestly. Shoulda been the main point of contention, but no one said nada. Out of touch unfortunately, which, in the end, will be the downfall of the game eventually.
finaly ... ffs dose 5 star gear drops on this END game content is out of reality from Devs... thanks to all who fight this, to make 6 star gear drops!!!
Hh attack in tiers saving whales til last
Not buffed, fixed
thanks for the call out that ingame chat is impossible to coordinate. like how can they have billion $ revenue and not have direct messaging atleast. scam company
what u tend to forget sir is we do give valuable feedback over and over to plaruim yet this feedback from the community falls on deaf ears most times from plaruim side hence at times its all the poor communication from plaruim side hence why we as a community got so liitle trust in plaruim, they had to increase the rewards no doubt about it so no good job or pat on the head from me to plaruim why they did not give better rewards from the beginining is beyond me did they think we wont notice? why always try to give us minum rewards for maximum effort...