ERRATA / NOTES Sorry guys, I was a bit under the weather this week, which is why my voice is hoarse and a bit higher pitched than normal. Also, I forgot to put keys on the charts, so they’re as follows: CINEBENCH R23: Dark Blue = Multithreaded, Light Blue = Single GEEKBENCH 6 CPU: Dark Blue = Multithreaded, Light Blue = Single GEEKBENCH 6 GPU: Dark Blue = OpenCL, Light Blue = Vulkan TIME SPY & FIRE STRIKE: Overall Score DAVINCI RESOLVE & BLENDER: Time (hours:mins:secs)
hey, the 6900HX is unlocked, and can be overclocked via AMD's official tool, Ryzen Master. Have you tried that tool out instead of the usual Universal x86 Tuning Utility yet?
I'm not surprised! Get yer self an Alka-Seltzer and put the beers back in the fridge, you're back at work now haha. Hope you had a good break off and cheers for the content up to now. Cheers 🍻
This channel provides such good content, that even though I will never look at this for purchase, i'll more than likely end up watching this more than once. Brilliant.
I bought the GMKtec mini pc about 6 months ago. Specs are exactly the same except it has a 6800h instead of a 6900 cpu. I was shocked how well it played games, it even managed cyber punk. It's also on amazon for only 350. It's by far the best priced mini pc I have seen .
I got a SER6 PRO with the 7735HS and it's almost the same rig. I see it's not longer listed for sale on Amazon. It lives in my toolbox hutch at work for all the online and HTML service manuals. Handles it in the cold and the heat mounted to the back of a monitor stuck in a metal box more or less. Did drill holes in a side to extend the wireless antennas to the top of my box. Now if I need to my wireless ear buds work to just outside the shop door.
Hello, what has been the experience so far with Beelink? I have seen negative comments that it lasts up to 6 months or a year and it breaks down. Thank you in advance for your response.
14:52 probably a limitation of the power supply. Increase amperage and re-run, I had a similar issue with an N305 box from Beelink. They sent a paltry 3a power supply when it ideally needs 5a. I’m guessing that’s a 6-7a and should be about 10a
I come from the days when people were Seriously arguing 30fps was enough . I played most games on 30-ish fps, not by choice but because that's what my rig could do without potato quality graphics. And I had a blast playing them. It wasn't nearly the most fluid or natural experience, but such were the times for people without wads of cash. I always resented reviewers who could not only afford high-end gear for the price of my barely medium build (in my region) but would actively badmouth anything below that on their market. Hell it was even worse when they didn't even acknowledge my build as entry level as the years went on and I could still play those games just fine. It was a breath of fresh air to see a reviewer showing older gear. And now that I can afford to have a good rig I get to have the joy of seeing a mini-PC destroy my old rig in anything but GPU and even then only because of power limitations. To get acceptable framerates all around in modern games and then the reviewer complains about 75fps being too low for their preference (on that game). My monitor caps at 59fps. Getting a new one is a major expense. I get it, I really do, hell, I have a system very similar to their main one, with an inferior GPU. But damn if it doesn't feel bad.
Does the Intel solutions fare better in transitions and editing than these AMD APUs? I know you said the export time was worse, but what about regular play, transitions, effects etc? Outside of potential throttling of course.
Slightly worse in regular playback, but not horribly so. Effects and transitions are just as bad. though tbf I'm probably being a bit over critical. With the right workflow and some proxies, I'm sure you can make any of these work well.
Hello, what has been the experience so far with Beelink? I have seen negative comments that it lasts up to 6 months or a year and it breaks down. Thank you in advance for your response.
It's called "Midnight Racer", by Backing Track. The file name is "The Doc Will See You Now", which I guess must have been the original name. It took me a long time to realise they'd changed it, hence why some people who know it from my content call it by the Old Name.
Well, now I would like to see a comparison between an HEDT system from more than decade ago and a mini pc. (Something like the original Titan and X79 etc)
Yeah, I was thinking about something like "2023 mini PC vs. 2013 gaming PC" last year, but I missed the moment - and a 2014 high end gaming PC is going to annihilate even a 7940HS. I'm probably going to do a PC vs. Mini PC comparison at some point, though.
These processors are good workhorses but the people that want to game would do better with something with the 780m graphics. I like Beelink stuff - well-made and reliable - but I wish you didn't need a discount code to make them worthwhile
6900HX/7935HX is still a decent chip, though being first gen, the DDR5 memory controller is a bit lacking, the best i can get out of it is about 6600, where as i can get 8000 out of Zen4(others apparently able to get over 10,000), this is also partially do to 6900/7x35 being on 7nm+++ as opposed to Zen4 being 5nm+
There is not any malware found on my SER6, but the issue with installation of e.g. LibreOffice ending in error 2503 plus the fact that on my SER6 the virtual RAM was disabled by the pre-installed Windows 11 Pro build convinced me that it is best practice always to re-install the OS from scratch. I had ordered the even cheaper version with 16 GB RAM and the lack of enabled VRAM was noticed quite sooner than later. These pre-installed builds cannot be trusted. On the positive side, the installed Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB SSD with PCIe 4.0 was very fast and I saw over 5000 MB/s in the CrystalDiskMark for reading sequential and over 4000 MB/s with sequential writes. It is very good that Beelink is using Crucial RAM and SSDs. Plus fan noise is not an issue if surfing the internet or when typing e-mail replies.
Hello, what has been the experience so far with Beelink? I have seen negative comments that it lasts up to 6 months or a year and it breaks down. Thank you in advance for your response.
I wonder when will there be Intel Ultra SOC, especially the one with full iGPU config. Heard the CPU performance is meh, but a huge jump in terms of integrated graphics performance. Besides, AMD integrated graphics definitely need some spanking just like Intel did on CPU performance.
It's still slower than the 780M, with more cores, consuming more power and having all the driver issues of Arc. That being said it's a huge jump over UHD graphics as it can actually run triple A games even if not very well.
Not too bad. There have also been a few 5000 series mini PC's in recent months too. I don't mind plastic as long as the cooling is sufficient, or the larger footprint. But the fact that it is an older generation, I would expect more competitive pricing, so I think that the voucher pricing needs to be the standard in order for this to likely have wider appeal. Add the closing comments regarding the 7000 series option and it does seem rather less desirable.
What is your point at 3:07 saying "boring old easily replaceable barrel jack"? Is that supposed to be a bad thing? So you prefer a priprietory connection over an easily replaceable connection? SMH
Ryzen 8000 APU's so far seem like duds. The Zen 3+ stuff is still pretty fast, and the 7000 series stuff seems pretty good, but the 8000 APU's are probably worth skipping as the long-awaited Strix Point, Strix Halo APU's that are supposed to be upcoming in the next year. That is to say, the Ryzen 6000 or 7000 series APU's are actually quite good value and they are coming down in price.
I'm about 90% certain that isn't "6th" gen Ryzen. It's 3rd gen, 4000 series wasn't a generation, it was 2rd gen ( Zen 2 ) released with a different name because it was made a different year. Which also made all of the mobile series chips lag behind 1 "series". Both Ryzen 5000 series desktop and Ryzen 6000 mobile are Zen 3 (3rd gen Ryzen)
There is a difference between Ryzen a series and Zen a microarchitecture. This isn’t Zen 3, but Zen 3+ which does have micro architectural enhancements over the original Zen 3.
ERRATA / NOTES
Sorry guys, I was a bit under the weather this week, which is why my voice is hoarse and a bit higher pitched than normal.
Also, I forgot to put keys on the charts, so they’re as follows:
CINEBENCH R23: Dark Blue = Multithreaded, Light Blue = Single
GEEKBENCH 6 CPU: Dark Blue = Multithreaded, Light Blue = Single
GEEKBENCH 6 GPU: Dark Blue = OpenCL, Light Blue = Vulkan
TIME SPY & FIRE STRIKE: Overall Score
DAVINCI RESOLVE & BLENDER: Time (hours:mins:secs)
hey, the 6900HX is unlocked, and can be overclocked via AMD's official tool, Ryzen Master. Have you tried that tool out instead of the usual Universal x86 Tuning Utility yet?
I'm not surprised! Get yer self an Alka-Seltzer and put the beers back in the fridge, you're back at work now haha. Hope you had a good break off and cheers for the content up to now.
Cheers 🍻
@@marknewellmusic*Puts the beer back in the fridge.
* Pulls out a hidden flask
I don’t even need a PC. Built one in June. But there’s something about these videos that’s comforting lol
I love this weird niche stuff, I have a somewhat high end rig but I am fascinated by this stuff.
So glad UA-cam recommended your channel. Has been an absolute goldmine
if your seeing this you're not first.
(but still thx for supporting this underrated youtuber)
I IDENTIFY as being first, therefore I am !!! I dare you to argue with me, I identify as having rainbow coloured hair !!!
@@Haywood-Jablomiei read this in dalek voice
Ok...Are you his wife?
@@emerald39 im just a huge supporter
@@emerald39 I identify as his other wife . Please use the correct pronouns while praising my stunning bravery.
I love mini pc's. I have a mini's forum UM790, for such a small form factor, it's a beast.
Comes at a cost though.
This channel provides such good content, that even though I will never look at this for purchase, i'll more than likely end up watching this more than once. Brilliant.
Your channel deserves at least 10-20x the amount of subscribers it has
Love your videos, don't take it negatively but i fall asleep to your videos, it's something else. ❤
I want to thank you for your time doing all the benchmarks :), helped me a lot while building my computer
i recommended this thing to a friend who isn't very PC savvy, and it kicks major butt! and hey, now i don't have to become free PC tech support :D
i don't know what is it with mini computers but god i like them so much lol
Bro, Awesome reviews. Loves the details of temps, FPS, PWR etc..
I am addicted to this channel and I don't even own a PC anymore.
From what I remember the 6900HX has basically a 1:1 performance footprint with the 5700X, for 20W less
Is that good? I’m looking into getting this.
@@ImTrans-Former Yes, the 5700X is decent desktop processor
I bought the GMKtec mini pc about 6 months ago. Specs are exactly the same except it has a 6800h instead of a 6900 cpu. I was shocked how well it played games, it even managed cyber punk. It's also on amazon for only 350. It's by far the best priced mini pc I have seen .
I got a SER6 PRO with the 7735HS and it's almost the same rig. I see it's not longer listed for sale on Amazon. It lives in my toolbox hutch at work for all the online and HTML service manuals. Handles it in the cold and the heat mounted to the back of a monitor stuck in a metal box more or less. Did drill holes in a side to extend the wireless antennas to the top of my box. Now if I need to my wireless ear buds work to just outside the shop door.
Hello, what has been the experience so far with Beelink? I have seen negative comments that it lasts up to 6 months or a year and it breaks down. Thank you in advance for your response.
@@christianguillenchica9561 Been solid for 13 or 14 months in the shop. I've left on and running 24/7.
14:52 probably a limitation of the power supply. Increase amperage and re-run, I had a similar issue with an N305 box from Beelink. They sent a paltry 3a power supply when it ideally needs 5a. I’m guessing that’s a 6-7a and should be about 10a
I come from the days when people were Seriously arguing 30fps was enough .
I played most games on 30-ish fps, not by choice but because that's what my rig could do without potato quality graphics. And I had a blast playing them. It wasn't nearly the most fluid or natural experience, but such were the times for people without wads of cash.
I always resented reviewers who could not only afford high-end gear for the price of my barely medium build (in my region) but would actively badmouth anything below that on their market. Hell it was even worse when they didn't even acknowledge my build as entry level as the years went on and I could still play those games just fine.
It was a breath of fresh air to see a reviewer showing older gear.
And now that I can afford to have a good rig I get to have the joy of seeing a mini-PC destroy my old rig in anything but GPU and even then only because of power limitations.
To get acceptable framerates all around in modern games and then the reviewer complains about 75fps being too low for their preference (on that game). My monitor caps at 59fps. Getting a new one is a major expense.
I get it, I really do, hell, I have a system very similar to their main one, with an inferior GPU. But damn if it doesn't feel bad.
can you do older windows xp and vista pc parts video and maybe a pc build? Really cool video production btw!
Thanks! I am a fan of Phil's Computer Lab and LGR, but they haven't convinced me to time warp back to the 2000s yet.
@@IcebergTech Okay. Good luck for future vids.
Does the Intel solutions fare better in transitions and editing than these AMD APUs? I know you said the export time was worse, but what about regular play, transitions, effects etc? Outside of potential throttling of course.
Slightly worse in regular playback, but not horribly so. Effects and transitions are just as bad. though tbf I'm probably being a bit over critical. With the right workflow and some proxies, I'm sure you can make any of these work well.
@@IcebergTech Thank you.
Loves the MSI afterburner info.
I just got one for $500. Will be a good holdover for a couple years until the hardware sea change we’re about to experience.
Hello, what has been the experience so far with Beelink? I have seen negative comments that it lasts up to 6 months or a year and it breaks down. Thank you in advance for your response.
That Bateman intro bro!
Whoa. Nice pic dude
@@moralreality7328 Same to you friend... if you know, you know ;-)
Hey IceBerg!
I saw you reviewed both 5700xt and 5700x before, any plans on bringing them together?
Sorry, I've sold them both 😞
Does anyone know the name of the track playing during the benchmarking sections? I love the energy it gives to the videos.
Check the video description, usually a track(s) from Backing Track.
"The doc will see you now"
It's called "Midnight Racer", by Backing Track. The file name is "The Doc Will See You Now", which I guess must have been the original name. It took me a long time to realise they'd changed it, hence why some people who know it from my content call it by the Old Name.
@@IcebergTech ah so that's why it disappeared from spotify
its confirmed ice berg is a mini pc fan boy
Any plans for re-review the Alienware alpha v1/v2
Good question, I haven't thought about those PCs for a while. I'll throw it into the ideas pile!
Well, now I would like to see a comparison between an HEDT system from more than decade ago and a mini pc. (Something like the original Titan and X79 etc)
Yeah, I was thinking about something like "2023 mini PC vs. 2013 gaming PC" last year, but I missed the moment - and a 2014 high end gaming PC is going to annihilate even a 7940HS. I'm probably going to do a PC vs. Mini PC comparison at some point, though.
Please describe New! (but also old) PC smell when unboxing!
Olá eu posso colocar uma placa de vídeo externa na usb4 ?
These processors are good workhorses but the people that want to game would do better with something with the 780m graphics. I like Beelink stuff - well-made and reliable - but I wish you didn't need a discount code to make them worthwhile
Thank you
6900HX/7935HX is still a decent chip, though being first gen, the DDR5 memory controller is a bit lacking, the best i can get out of it is about 6600, where as i can get 8000 out of Zen4(others apparently able to get over 10,000), this is also partially do to 6900/7x35 being on 7nm+++ as opposed to Zen4 being 5nm+
There is not any malware found on my SER6, but the issue with installation of e.g. LibreOffice ending in error 2503 plus the fact that on my SER6 the virtual RAM was disabled by the pre-installed Windows 11 Pro build convinced me that it is best practice always to re-install the OS from scratch.
I had ordered the even cheaper version with 16 GB RAM and the lack of enabled VRAM was noticed quite sooner than later. These pre-installed builds cannot be trusted.
On the positive side, the installed Crucial P3 Plus 500 GB SSD with PCIe 4.0 was very fast and I saw over 5000 MB/s in the CrystalDiskMark for reading sequential and over 4000 MB/s with sequential writes. It is very good that Beelink is using Crucial RAM and SSDs. Plus fan noise is not an issue if surfing the internet or when typing e-mail replies.
Hello, what has been the experience so far with Beelink? I have seen negative comments that it lasts up to 6 months or a year and it breaks down. Thank you in advance for your response.
How is it going after all this time of use? (If you used it)
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I wonder when will there be Intel Ultra SOC, especially the one with full iGPU config. Heard the CPU performance is meh, but a huge jump in terms of integrated graphics performance. Besides, AMD integrated graphics definitely need some spanking just like Intel did on CPU performance.
It's still slower than the 780M, with more cores, consuming more power and having all the driver issues of Arc. That being said it's a huge jump over UHD graphics as it can actually run triple A games even if not very well.
I'd love to get one of those for a server
1:20 "Nice"
hot
Not too bad. There have also been a few 5000 series mini PC's in recent months too.
I don't mind plastic as long as the cooling is sufficient, or the larger footprint.
But the fact that it is an older generation, I would expect more competitive pricing, so I think that the voucher pricing needs to be the standard in order for this to likely have wider appeal.
Add the closing comments regarding the 7000 series option and it does seem rather less desirable.
so odd , people just dont reset or reinstall windows no matter what... I do it even on my Asus and other hardware.
didn't I watch this already?
I buy same cpu 6900hx from AliExpress
And i buy it 330 US dollars
The cinebench r23 mc 13050 sc 1450
Can you review it ?!
What is your point at 3:07 saying "boring old easily replaceable barrel jack"? Is that supposed to be a bad thing? So you prefer a priprietory connection over an easily replaceable connection? SMH
Ryzen 8000 APU's so far seem like duds. The Zen 3+ stuff is still pretty fast, and the 7000 series stuff seems pretty good, but the 8000 APU's are probably worth skipping as the long-awaited Strix Point, Strix Halo APU's that are supposed to be upcoming in the next year. That is to say, the Ryzen 6000 or 7000 series APU's are actually quite good value and they are coming down in price.
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OMG you killed Jack 😿
I'm about 90% certain that isn't "6th" gen Ryzen. It's 3rd gen, 4000 series wasn't a generation, it was 2rd gen ( Zen 2 ) released with a different name because it was made a different year. Which also made all of the mobile series chips lag behind 1 "series". Both Ryzen 5000 series desktop and Ryzen 6000 mobile are Zen 3 (3rd gen Ryzen)
There is a difference between Ryzen a series and Zen a microarchitecture. This isn’t Zen 3, but Zen 3+ which does have micro architectural enhancements over the original Zen 3.
714 🙌
Lemme guess, it's got some USB, some ethernet, some ram, and some storage running on an apu. UNIQUE
It's almost like it's a standard?
These things are still awful for gamers.