When Woelfl came to Vienna in 1795, he was immediately recognized as a Mozart student due to the clarity of his attack and his brilliant walking technique.
Een heel speels piano partij heeft dit concert. Niet gemakkelijk om in te studeren!!! Wel heel mooi! Ook op de Nederlandse zenders weer totaal onbekend.
when listening to a fresh piece of music i'm careful not to judge by some preconceived standards or comparisons with other composers - i just listen to the piece and judge it on its own merits - much fairer and more enjoyable that way...
Curious what unrealistic picture the upper classes had of military matters( or agraric matters, cfr. the Seasons by Haydn) ca. 1800.The positive vibe of this "military" concerto is irresistible. Apart from this sociological comment, Wolffl was a great composer who knew exactly what his strong points were, highlighted them and avoided his weak ones. Not being exactly a pianist I can see this score is devilishly difficult. Those broken octaves kept on for dozens of bars...
A Beautiful tender and delicate work !!! Funny how it is that Beethoven (Mozart) often gets the credit for the "pure classical sound" when he himself arrived on the scene during a the period of time within the classical era when its "sound" had already been well defined and developed by very many others.
Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven perfected and brought what others did before them to a superior level. Works like these by Woelffl are pleasant, well written and worthy to be heard but lack the creativity. In piano literature the give away is usually the treatment of the left hand. Most classical composers the left hand is mechanical, just accompaniment. NOT with Beethoven, Haydn and Mozart. With Beethoven on the contrary. You need superior skills as a pianist to handle his left hand parts.
@@bartjebartmansI think you were supposed to embellish or improvise the left hand parts. But Beethoven wanted his music played exactly as written so he wrote the "improvisations" down.
A tough (and amusing) assessment, Bob, but I can't argue! But I think he knew what the public wanted - something easily accessible on a first and only hearing. There is more originality in many a Czerny study and his more remote modulations tend not to work convincingly. But he was known and popular in his day and it is always interesting to hear examples of vanished repertoire, so thanks to Bartje for uploading this.
On IMSLP there is an explanation of the date used in this video: Date of composition 1799 from cpo recording. Apparently composed before piano concerto no.1 op.20 (estimated to have been composed after 1801.) British Library at St. Pancras has a score of the work estimated to date from ca.1806. Am not sure of that date however.
Bravo! Well composed and well played.
When Woelfl came to Vienna in 1795, he was immediately recognized as a Mozart student due to the clarity of his attack and his brilliant walking technique.
briljante wandelaars techniek? Zoiets heb ik nog nooit gehoord.......
@@bartjebartmans hahaha...toch iemand die leest ;-)
What A brilliant composer you are, Mr Joseph Wolfl!
Een heel speels piano partij heeft dit concert. Niet gemakkelijk om in te studeren!!! Wel heel mooi! Ook op de Nederlandse zenders weer totaal onbekend.
great orchestra ! germany has superb radio broadcasting companies regional orchestras and this recording is no exception superb
Sure. Singing and playing a musical instrument is part of basic education in Germany.
wonderful concert! he had to love Mozart's music
No doubt about. The 1st movement is a constant reminder of one of the marches of Figaro's Wedding.
A great way to end Sunday evening, listening to this music before Complin, then going to bed.
unjustifiably forgotten
Mozart and early Beethoven come to mind, which is hardly surprising I guess...
0:00 - 1st movement - Allegro
12:53 - 2nd movement - Andante
16:16 - 3rd movement - Finale: Allegro
Excellent masterpiece !
En France on ne connait que les grands classiques,alors que dans l'Europe ces compositeurs sont reconnus,bravo!!!!!!
when listening to a fresh piece of music i'm careful not to judge by some preconceived standards or comparisons with other composers - i just listen to the piece and judge it on its own merits - much fairer and more enjoyable that way...
Wonderful!
I thought this was very nice and inventive, and in very good taste!
Curious what unrealistic picture the upper classes had of military matters( or agraric matters, cfr. the Seasons by Haydn) ca. 1800.The positive vibe of this "military" concerto is irresistible. Apart from this sociological comment, Wolffl was a great composer who knew exactly what his strong points were, highlighted them and avoided his weak ones. Not being exactly a pianist I can see this score is devilishly difficult. Those broken octaves kept on for dozens of bars...
A Beautiful tender and delicate work !!!
Funny how it is that Beethoven (Mozart) often gets the credit for the "pure classical sound" when he himself arrived on the scene during a the period of time within the classical era when its "sound" had already been well defined and developed by very many others.
Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven perfected and brought what others did before them to a superior level. Works like these by Woelffl are pleasant, well written and worthy to be heard but lack the creativity. In piano literature the give away is usually the treatment of the left hand. Most classical composers the left hand is mechanical, just accompaniment. NOT with Beethoven, Haydn and Mozart. With Beethoven on the contrary. You need superior skills as a pianist to handle his left hand parts.
@@bartjebartmans
Beethoven can barley even be considered classical in style. He's more romantic than anything.
@@Whatismusic123 You need to relax.
@@bartjebartmansI think you were supposed to embellish or improvise the left hand parts. But Beethoven wanted his music played exactly as written so he wrote the "improvisations" down.
Very thanks!!! Amazing and rare music!
Many of these composers could write whole movements in their heads.
This is so simpleminded, he could have composed it in someone else's head.
A tough (and amusing) assessment, Bob, but I can't argue! But I think he knew what the public wanted - something easily accessible on a first and only hearing. There is more originality in many a Czerny study and his more remote modulations tend not to work convincingly. But he was known and popular in his day and it is always interesting to hear examples of vanished repertoire, so thanks to Bartje for uploading this.
BRAVO
Excellent work with the brilliant performance :D
Love reading the score . I. don't think my fingers could handle the rapid fire octaves anymore , particularly in the left hand !!
Possibly the most Mozart-esque composition I’ve heard by someone other than W A Mozart himself.
a genius opus! very underrated
I like anything with the words 'grand' and 'military' in the title. In fact, 'imperial' is a mother great one.
Around the 11 minute mark it sounded like there were 2 individual pianos playing.
Wolflie!
5:03
11:03
18:45
Some error? 1799 for this #5 and his #3 written in 1807?
Beethoven wrote his 3rd in 1800 and this sounds like it borrowed a ton from it.
On IMSLP there is an explanation of the date used in this video: Date of composition 1799 from cpo recording. Apparently composed before piano concerto no.1 op.20 (estimated to have been composed after 1801.)
British Library at St. Pancras has a score of the work estimated to date from ca.1806. Am not sure of that date however.
A thirteenth? That's more than being very tall, that's a problem
8:02