@@tempest8600Followed by immediate rollback after massive crybaby protests, followed by stealth nerfs (Sorrow does a great job showing you how ridiculously many of these are, for any kind of weapon). Dice at its best.
Suppressors are still useful, ppl don't react as fast when getting flanked/shot at by suppressors, they still have their use tbh even when getting spotted on mini map.
Especially on conquest when you are doing the team's work assaulting points while the dumbasses camp-defend some already-lost location. Nothing more satisfying than a Blasco sneaking into stuff and mowing down 10 ppl with motion detector and a muffled PBX (or PP29 if you wanna be completely invisible).
Hey Enders thanks for the video. Just wanted to add to this: The Standard Issue drummag comes only with 2 drums. One with the weapon and a spare one. Meaning you're stuck with 102 bullets (counting on in the chamber of course) and slower reloads. I'd suggest the 40 round extended mags. A 40 round mag comes with the gun and 3 extra ones. Plus faster reloads.
its getting to the point where i know what enders is going to say about each new weapon. no supressor, fill out magazines, run arcom if u want more accuracy. i knew this was going to be the setup as soon as i unlocked all attatchments. maybe i have seen to many enders videos?
@@PharaoahMonkyour embarrassing for dissing someone who’s grinding to get attachments. Post your statistics on here so i can clown on you or shut your mouth and stop bullying ppl. Idk who tf you think you are. That mode is there for a reason. Lots of ppl use it to unlock attachments quicker. Thats why it was created. Get over yourself. It’s a video game clown. Normal ppl play to have fun.
The long barrel is literally never worth using except for maybe on snipers. It's a dps loss in every situation and leading your target isn't difficult.
@jj_withers_away it doesn't increase damage, doesn't even help falloff. It only increases velocity, at the cost of rof. Not worth on basically any weapon.
Thanks for the shoutout! Great video, and I would be highly interested in what you think the best guns are recoil handling wise, maybe I missed a good one?
High power ammo is also garbage on the ak5c. It lowers the rate of fire and ttk so badly. Standard and cqc ammo are the only worth it options. However, the extended mag for standard only give you 9 more rounds (with what looks like a 45-50 round mag) and makes the reload longer. Not worth it.
Really weird stuff running the in game Network Monitor on Haven yesterday. Various weapons dealing 180-250 damage with one shot. Periods where up to 50% of client hits were not registering on the server. Once I died because 5 different players hit me with one shot all within 20ms. Killed several times by DM7 as if it was fully automatic 4 hits within 30ish ms and perceived as a one shot. Then there was the guy who killed me with 5 rounds with the SCZ when I was crouched behind a boulder just outside the spawn and he was in a building in the middle of the map. There is a glitch (on other maps as well) where you can see through a wall if you are right next to it and turn a certain way. There were also a ton more hackusations then has been typical in BF2042. Blowouts and spawn trappings are common even matches very rare. The Little bird is a total pain in the ass and if your team doesn't have a competent pilot, oh well.
267 ms TTK is slow for an SMG. The Scorpion is quite pedestrian actually. It’s basically an MP9 with worse accuracy but more range. Dice broke from tradition making the new guns average this time.
Sorrow has also said that the testing they've done on the STNR and MGL laser sights has shown no evidence that it reduces recoil in any way Edit: there's a note in the underbarrel attachments section about it
Am i misreading this 4:07 ? HP amo has better ttk at 30-75 meters SE amo 30-49 meters - 334 ms, HP - still 312 ms SE amo 50-99 meters - 401 ms, HP 50-74 - 390 ms
@@novo.sorrow I'm not sure I agree. Having a 4 BTK range within 5m or so was one of the things that made weapons like the AEK in BF3 so broken because it meant that slower weapons had no means of meaningfully competing with faster ones regardless of the situation. BFV also had a similar problem where the bad gun mechanics meant that higher RPM weapons were just almost always better because they were more consistent and more lethal at closer ranges, and the gunplay in that game was basically only designed for ~20m engagements unless you were using an SAR, SLR, or some kind of bolt-action/bipoded weapon. Lower RPM weapons need to be able to compete with higher RPM weapons at close range in some capacity, otherwise you'd be punished for doing anything other than camping with them at long range.
Tried so hard to enjoy this game and for the last few months I have been enjoying it but this recoil change is just so shit. Why? What's the point so late in the games life cycle?
The gun is super op, makes it impossible to use anything but meta weapons this season, I wish it was like BF4 where every gun was unique and still killed the same
Maybe they should Just buff all other weapons instead of nerfing this one because it feels awesome, especially me being a player who doesn't like to change fields of view and stuff for the advantages. I enjoy playing the game with appealing and natural visuals. So the accuracy should never be balanced around people who use fields of view in my opinion. And yes i know this wapon is meta, but does this also mean it doesnt feel awesome? this wapon feels really really good.
@@EndersFPS Wrapped Suppressor really doesn't have any downsides at ranges where SMGs are going to be used the most. You're getting all the benefits of suppression at the expense of reduced muzzle velocity, which.. really doesn't matter in 2042 for most guns. If it was BF1, BFV, or especially BF4 there would be a stronger argument for the Wrapped Suppressor having significant downsides (BF4 in particular had very high bullet drop and very low muzzle velocity, at least compared to the other Frostbite-era games. it's why most of the guns in that game felt bad to use at longer distances unless you were using the Heavy Barrel, besides their less consistent bullet spread compared to BF1's weapons). The only way I could see the Wrapped Suppressor having meaningful downsides on SMGs in 2042 is if they're bugged and have hidden stat modifiers they aren't supposed to that negatively affect a weapon's performance beyond the reduced muzzle velocity.
Vertical recoil typically doesn't matter in 2042, so if you're going to use an attachment to reduce recoil it's better to go for reduced horizontal recoil. The Compensator is worse in that regard, since it splits the difference at the expense of the weapon's spread, whereas the barrel that reduces HREC just increases VREC, which only means that you have to pull down a bit harder while firing.
I haven’t played 2042 in about 6 months, holy crap is this game a turd. What happened to the player base. I’m not great but damn. 3 players in one of my squads combined for 9 kills and 73 deaths. Enders you where right, this new map is an absolute shit show on breakthrough.
they need calibre damage, the damage is dogshit and makes the game horrible, its not even fun, its more of a damn e-sport which is well, yeah just money farming gamers for shit content and battle passes.
okokokokok some guy telling me what to use.... BUT THIS GUY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SCOPE ON THE WEAPON....... :)))))) BF 1 / 5 enjoyer :) Naaah dude... stopped the vid and made this comment and now reporting it :) WTF...
Im so fking sick of SMG's being better than AR's in every way in every Battlefield game. Why the fk there are AR's when they're basically useless or worse versions of SMG's lmao. Braindead design
ARs have always been better, and after the update they still are. HS multiplier 1.9>1.55. On the new map SMGs do have an advantage with all the house-to-house fighting, I’ll give you that.
@@zzznardszzz4715 while pp29 still has great dmg at 50+ meters...well. Even with HS bonus SMG can be deadly af from 0 to 40 meters. And you dont actually shot much further on many maps. Only if you walking slow and not in a hurry to an obj Plus their recoil and spraynpray ability...DICE just hate every other weapon. Same as Activision.
The New King...... until dice nerfs it into the ground 😂
Sad but True 😅
Emergency nerf coming in 10 months
@@tempest8600Followed by immediate rollback after massive crybaby protests, followed by stealth nerfs (Sorrow does a great job showing you how ridiculously many of these are, for any kind of weapon). Dice at its best.
Suppressors are still useful, ppl don't react as fast when getting flanked/shot at by suppressors, they still have their use tbh even when getting spotted on mini map.
Especially on conquest when you are doing the team's work assaulting points while the dumbasses camp-defend some already-lost location. Nothing more satisfying than a Blasco sneaking into stuff and mowing down 10 ppl with motion detector and a muffled PBX (or PP29 if you wanna be completely invisible).
Hey Enders thanks for the video. Just wanted to add to this:
The Standard Issue drummag comes only with 2 drums. One with the weapon and a spare one.
Meaning you're stuck with 102 bullets (counting on in the chamber of course) and slower reloads. I'd suggest the 40 round extended mags.
A 40 round mag comes with the gun and 3 extra ones. Plus faster reloads.
You can just put the extended mags in your weapon wheel and swap to them when the drum ammo runs out. That's what i do. Best of both!
Yeah 👍 good point, I actually play with Angel when 50mag and 40mag when assault class.
its getting to the point where i know what enders is going to say about each new weapon. no supressor, fill out magazines, run arcom if u want more accuracy. i knew this was going to be the setup as soon as i unlocked all attatchments. maybe i have seen to many enders videos?
Looks like I'm grinding this gun on bots tonight to get all the attachments👍
Cultured af
That’s what I did shit is good
@@PharaoahMonk I only do bots to get all the attachments because 360 kills takes some time in real matches.
@@PharaoahMonkyour embarrassing for dissing someone who’s grinding to get attachments. Post your statistics on here so i can clown on you or shut your mouth and stop bullying ppl. Idk who tf you think you are. That mode is there for a reason. Lots of ppl use it to unlock attachments quicker. Thats why it was created. Get over yourself. It’s a video game clown. Normal ppl play to have fun.
@@Gotnoname25i wouldn’t even respond to that troll. He is trash at the game anyway i guarantee it. Good ppl dont talk ish like that to other players.
Bro as someone who bought the game just a couple of days ago and just started getting into it this spreadsheet is super useful, tysm
They do this every time they release new weapon. Overpowerd to get people buy battlepass and then they nerf the weapon.
Something is not right, I've noticed that grenades are all throwing higher than normal and it's making it hard to throw them accurately.
Don't sleep on the long barrel. It with the hybrid and burst firing is pretty good for dropping long range targets.
The long barrel is literally never worth using except for maybe on snipers. It's a dps loss in every situation and leading your target isn't difficult.
Never use the long barrel, ever. Lol
If it increased damage range and velocity, then maybe, but it's pretty terrible.
@jj_withers_away it doesn't increase damage, doesn't even help falloff. It only increases velocity, at the cost of rof. Not worth on basically any weapon.
@@brodofraggins yeah that's what I was saying.
Thanks for the shoutout! Great video, and I would be highly interested in what you think the best guns are recoil handling wise, maybe I missed a good one?
High power ammo is also garbage on the ak5c. It lowers the rate of fire and ttk so badly. Standard and cqc ammo are the only worth it options. However, the extended mag for standard only give you 9 more rounds (with what looks like a 45-50 round mag) and makes the reload longer. Not worth it.
Really weird stuff running the in game Network Monitor on Haven yesterday. Various weapons dealing 180-250 damage with one shot. Periods where up to 50% of client hits were not registering on the server. Once I died because 5 different players hit me with one shot all within 20ms. Killed several times by DM7 as if it was fully automatic 4 hits within 30ish ms and perceived as a one shot. Then there was the guy who killed me with 5 rounds with the SCZ when I was crouched behind a boulder just outside the spawn and he was in a building in the middle of the map. There is a glitch (on other maps as well) where you can see through a wall if you are right next to it and turn a certain way. There were also a ton more hackusations then has been typical in BF2042. Blowouts and spawn trappings are common even matches very rare. The Little bird is a total pain in the ass and if your team doesn't have a competent pilot, oh well.
Enders... just like you predicted before S7 release😅
267 ms TTK is slow for an SMG. The Scorpion is quite pedestrian actually. It’s basically an MP9 with worse accuracy but more range. Dice broke from tradition making the new guns average this time.
Pbx and the ac9 are still my favorite smgs.
Of course enders predicted this weapon being OP
Bro’s spreadsheet is very impressive
Playtesting Exists. DICE: What is playtesting never heard about that.
The SCZ-3 is basically an AR pretending to be an SMG.
Sorrow has also said that the testing they've done on the STNR and MGL laser sights has shown no evidence that it reduces recoil in any way
Edit: there's a note in the underbarrel attachments section about it
Could it be Due to the Recoil Bug??
@@ÀngryŊoodle no, I don't think so. That note was added quite a while ago now
@@snivelsIndeed, I asked one of the weapon Devs for clarification, maybe I will get an answer as to what they actually do in the code.
@@novo.sorrow Thanks Sorrow, and thank you for all the work you do in the community
i think it means less hip fire recoil
Being spotted all the time for you is just feeding the beast
Sometimes running around with a silenced weapon is fun, if you're the the best player on the server it makes no difference 💀
Try that with the AK 5C, that thing actually has decent subsonic ammo, unlike the SCZ-3
The AC 42 isn’t as bad as I originally thought. Burst fire is less effective. Still solid though
The AC9 is a great substitute until you unlock the new uber smg
Am i misreading this 4:07 ? HP amo has better ttk at 30-75 meters
SE amo 30-49 meters - 334 ms, HP - still 312 ms
SE amo 50-99 meters - 401 ms, HP 50-74 - 390 ms
No, you read that right!
No 4 shot kill for a SMGs seems kinda rough.
It definitely wouldn't hurt giving it a 4 BTK range 0 - 5 or 10m
@@novo.sorrow I'm not sure I agree. Having a 4 BTK range within 5m or so was one of the things that made weapons like the AEK in BF3 so broken because it meant that slower weapons had no means of meaningfully competing with faster ones regardless of the situation. BFV also had a similar problem where the bad gun mechanics meant that higher RPM weapons were just almost always better because they were more consistent and more lethal at closer ranges, and the gunplay in that game was basically only designed for ~20m engagements unless you were using an SAR, SLR, or some kind of bolt-action/bipoded weapon. Lower RPM weapons need to be able to compete with higher RPM weapons at close range in some capacity, otherwise you'd be punished for doing anything other than camping with them at long range.
What is the player background card you use? Looks like a black bird streaking down to strike. Looks badass
Tried so hard to enjoy this game and for the last few months I have been enjoying it but this recoil change is just so shit. Why? What's the point so late in the games life cycle?
I am not playing the new map .... Tried it a few times on breakthrough but nope.
I know that Battlefield 2042 has a lot patches and balance that Battlefield 5 and Battlefield 1 as well
The gun is super op, makes it impossible to use anything but meta weapons this season, I wish it was like BF4 where every gun was unique and still killed the same
Extreme hyperbole 😂
Factually wrong lol
I guess you never used the AEK in bf4.
What gun did he say was better than this in the smg category?
I would like a video on the LWG grip vs other grips.
I had the new guns since the start, but I am busy using up my xp bonus
Ah here we go again, same situation every season, every "fix" update.
What's the difference between the 40 standard extended ammo and the 50 standard drum?
Hey can you do a video on the Gvt 45-70 Lever action? Is the recent buff worth using it now?
Is “Enders” a reference to Minecraft?
Godspeed Steve! You got this
Maybe they should Just buff all other weapons instead of nerfing this one because it feels awesome, especially me being a player who doesn't like to change fields of view and stuff for the advantages. I enjoy playing the game with appealing and natural visuals. So the accuracy should never be balanced around people who use fields of view in my opinion. And yes i know this wapon is meta, but does this also mean it doesnt feel awesome? this wapon feels really really good.
Why use standard barrel? Wrapped suppressor has no downside.
Wrapped suppressor absolutely has downsides lol
@@EndersFPS Wrapped Suppressor really doesn't have any downsides at ranges where SMGs are going to be used the most. You're getting all the benefits of suppression at the expense of reduced muzzle velocity, which.. really doesn't matter in 2042 for most guns. If it was BF1, BFV, or especially BF4 there would be a stronger argument for the Wrapped Suppressor having significant downsides (BF4 in particular had very high bullet drop and very low muzzle velocity, at least compared to the other Frostbite-era games. it's why most of the guns in that game felt bad to use at longer distances unless you were using the Heavy Barrel, besides their less consistent bullet spread compared to BF1's weapons). The only way I could see the Wrapped Suppressor having meaningful downsides on SMGs in 2042 is if they're bugged and have hidden stat modifiers they aren't supposed to that negatively affect a weapon's performance beyond the reduced muzzle velocity.
2042 just restarts the download when finished in ea app.. anyone else encountered this before?
Am i trash or is the ak24 not as good as some seasons in the past? (Havent played consistently for a year)
Damn i would like to know how long it realy takes to build a map like that. 90% copy past assets.
The AM40 still my fav to use even after the recoil patch
They nerfed it?
@@HueyFreeman. no they add visual recoil to all gun
Why not use a compensator seeing that it gives more stability while firing? Or is the vertical muzzle break better? I’m on series x
Vertical recoil typically doesn't matter in 2042, so if you're going to use an attachment to reduce recoil it's better to go for reduced horizontal recoil. The Compensator is worse in that regard, since it splits the difference at the expense of the weapon's spread, whereas the barrel that reduces HREC just increases VREC, which only means that you have to pull down a bit harder while firing.
Good Vid again, Enders!
Which Nvidia driver are you running on?
Just a new laser pointer, like every season.
Another great video!
I haven’t played 2042 in about 6 months, holy crap is this game a turd. What happened to the player base. I’m not great but damn. 3 players in one of my squads combined for 9 kills and 73 deaths. Enders you where right, this new map is an absolute shit show on breakthrough.
The superior to the PP-29
Scorpion wasn't something outstanding in BF4 and it remains the same now.
Great video!
Does anyone know why gunships were removed from breakthrough?
Do an M-tar setup next :)
Great gun sure... but if every one of you plays it ill be happy to find your perfect counter. Please, everyone play the same build!!
Ay yes another extremely op battle pass gun
High fire rate weapon with tons of bullets in a mag with little recoil. Tell me something new lol.
use extend on the gun, u only have 2 mag on drum, gross
Im not using it right it just doesn’t feel that op to me. 😂😂 i love it, but it’s definitely not the best.
I have not got that far yet 😆 but I want it 😅
Sure as hell didn’t make the AK5C good, thing stinks
The game was already broke, why you people are so determined for those responsible to not go broke is beyond me.
no shot im early to a video! sheesh
Decaf.
And you’re gona ruin it and they will nerf it
sorrow 🐐
mähhh
Need Battle Pass -_-
It’s good not broken
they need calibre damage, the damage is dogshit and makes the game horrible, its not even fun, its more of a damn e-sport which is well, yeah just money farming gamers for shit content and battle passes.
okokokokok
some guy telling me what to use....
BUT THIS GUY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SCOPE ON THE WEAPON....... :)))))) BF 1 / 5 enjoyer :)
Naaah dude... stopped the vid and made this comment and now reporting it :) WTF...
??????????
You're a troll right?
🎈
Im so fking sick of SMG's being better than AR's in every way in every Battlefield game. Why the fk there are AR's when they're basically useless or worse versions of SMG's lmao. Braindead design
ARs have always been better, and after the update they still are. HS multiplier 1.9>1.55. On the new map SMGs do have an advantage with all the house-to-house fighting, I’ll give you that.
@@zzznardszzz4715 while pp29 still has great dmg at 50+ meters...well. Even with HS bonus SMG can be deadly af from 0 to 40 meters. And you dont actually shot much further on many maps. Only if you walking slow and not in a hurry to an obj
Plus their recoil and spraynpray ability...DICE just hate every other weapon. Same as Activision.