Got a 2023 Silverado Crew cab 2.7 Liter with 18,000 miles on it. I bought it new and love it. No problems with it so far. I would buy it again. I am getting a 21-mpg fuel economy average . I don't baby it either. The truck delivers everything I need it to do.
I have A 2023 Silverado Regular Cab Long box and I am lucky to get 16-17 mpg on regular 87 octane. I am about to join the class action lawsuit. This is the worst truck I have ever owned. The brakes on most of these trucks is also that new all electric assist POS and it has been an unreliable cow for me too. This lemon just stalled on a busy road for me tonight and would not re-start and came back to the dealer on a tow truck.
I've got one. It hauls the mail and has run great for 2 years. BTW it doesn't have lifters. It's an overhead cam. They're called followers since you know, they don't lift since they're being pushed down.
I don’t know, man, I kind of have to disagree with a lot of this. Coming from a Silverado with the 5.3L/6sp in it to a Canyon At4 with the 2.7L/8sp, The canyon drives so much better. It’s not even comparable. I know it’s technically a smaller truck, but it only weighs 500 pounds less than the full size. With 30 K on the canyon, my overall average MPG is just under 20, and I do not baby this truck at all. the Silverado with a small lift, 1” taller tires was lucky to get 15. If you’re an aggressive driver, the eight speed actually does what you want it to do, unlike most automatic transmissions. I absolutely hated the six speed in the Silverado. The combination of the 2.7L/8sp in manual mode is just an absolute blast on the back roads, it’s like driving a go kart. I would never go back to a small V8 after having this turbo, but I completely understand why the boomers don’t like it.
I went from a 2014 4.3 6 speed to the 2024 2.7 upgraded 8 speed. Both trucks are single cab 6.6 bed. The 6 speed was rough as hell since day one. The 8 speed is nice and smooth so far.fuel mileage is similar between the two trucks. The 2.7 has a lot more power obviously.
@@sknight13602higher than 87 octane fuel is completely unnecessary in this engine, and running 91 octane will not improve performance nor keep the engine cleaner.
I have a 2020 2.7L, and honestly I love it. No issues up to 75k miles (I know that seems like a new engine at this point), outside of a little oil burn but not surprising with a turbo. My 8-speed seems smooth, but I am doing all the recommended maintenance. I love how responsive this engine is and prefer it over the last couple of trucks I've had. Only downfall is prior to 2021 they are only rated to tow 6600lbs, which for me is fine, but I feel like it takes a lot of people who want a truck out of that market. The 2020's take regular gas, and I get 19/20-23 mpg.
Power has a cost. 300HP is going to drink a certain amount of gas no matter the cylinder count. People need to stop thinking 4 cylinders is automatically fuel efficient. Lifetime average in my case was 18.7 miles per gallon so not far off on 87 regular. I had the 2021 version of this engine and just replaced the truck because of (surprise) collapsed lifter issue. Decided after dealing with 8-speed transmission issues since Day 1 I wasn’t willing to start down a road with the fuel management stuff anymore. Had to replace lifter bank and both camshafts. Sold it back to the dealer and got a 6.6L gas. Old school pushrod V8 with no cylinder deactivation no active fuel management and no start stop garbage.
@@billjones373 , Why I waited to buy a 2022. Didnt want that AFM crapola or that 8 speed trans. GM needs to do better in ensuring better reliabilty & costly repairs why buyers look at Honda & Toyota for alternatives!
@@harrymiller8538 Well now they're saying the 10 speeds are having issues, another issue with GM's are the fuel pump modules a tow truck company down here in Texas was talking about how many they have to tow back to dealerships. Now i don't know if i want to go with the 2.7 or 5.3 i'm assuming dfm can be deactivated on the new ones right??
@larrytanton5787 , The new ones after 2021 dont have that crap. It didnt work on the 80s with the V-8-6-4 in the caddys then and with the computer gizmos today still dont work. Trans were 3 speed with overdrive. Sad GM or any of the companies wont make a reliable truck nowadays like the 90s were. That 5.7 was a darn good powertrain along with their trans then! Why so many are still on the roads..
@@harrymiller8538 I hear ya i had a 68 camaro 327 with turbo 400 tranny ya could not tear that tranny up they were installed in heavy duty pickups and were tough but i will say fuel injection has been the best thing that came along over carbs and points in distributors that would burn and need replaced.
I'm gonna be honest with you guys.....in 2018, I bought a 2018 hyundai elantra se, base model, even has a manual transmission. I have 152k on it, and I spent it has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Did spark plugs 2x, front brakes 2x, a right wheel bearing at 98k, a left wheel bearing 145k. Other than maintenance items, this car has been amazing. I would buy another Hyundai in a second.. I will say, now that I have 152k on it, I have to add 1 quart of oil every 1,500 miles... but it's been awesome. I also take amazing care of it.. anyway. Just sharing
I have 55k on my 23. The dealer changed out the fluid for the mobile synthetic upgrade under warranty. I think this guy is just taking stuff off the website and not firsthand experience. I’m averaging about 19 1/2 total around town is more like 23/24 in four-wheel-drive extended cab 6 1/2 bed truck highway is about the same as the 5.3 a little better than the 5.3 in the trail boss probably because of the tires.
I had one and the thing I loved the most about it was the low end torque. Drives like a diesel and it was great. I had a 4.8 and 5.3, I preferred the 2.7 over both V8’s because of how it drives. Traded to a gas 2500 for better hauling capability but wouldn’t hesitate to get the 2.7 again in a half ton.
M - The zero-cylinder mode in GM's Dynamic Fuel Management (DFM) system is an advanced feature that allows the engine to temporarily shut off all cylinders, essentially idling without combustion to maximize fuel efficiency. Unlike Active Fuel Management (AFM), which only switches between V8 and V4 modes, DFM can deactivate any combination of cylinders, including all eight, in real time based on driving conditions. This zero-cylinder mode occurs during deceleration or coasting, where the throttle is closed, and the transmission is in gear, allowing the vehicle to maintain momentum without using fuel. The engine’s valves remain closed, and fuel injection is completely cut off, reducing pumping losses and drag. This enhances fuel economy by minimizing unnecessary fuel consumption, especially during highway cruising or stop-and-go traffic.
Bought a 2019 2.7 brand new and has been a good engine with plenty of power, at 90,000 miles now with zero engine problems… The 8L90 on the other hand…. I’m on number 2…
Concering AFM on this engine, do you know if there are electronic modules available to defeat this? I use one on my 5.3 V8, with excellent results. I’m thinking about downsizing to a GMC Canyon with this 4 cylinder L3B motor, but probably won’t take the chance if I can’t defeat and turn OFF the AFM.
Its an OHC engine- it doesnt have lifter like the OHV V8s have. Now the sliding cam setup- jury is still out on that but then this engine has been around for over 5 years now and I have not heard of any issues in higher mileage trucks. Have you?
I chuckled at the lifter failure comment in this video as well dude doesn't know anything about this engine just a V8 guy who's mad about the 4 banger.
I have 2000 Silverado 5.3 with 275,000 miles and the engine/sensors all original and I wouldn’t trade it for the world (use it for hunting now days), if the new 5.3 were just a higher compression more refined versions of the gen 3 then hands down i would get one of those when I get another new pickup, but I have been considering one of these new 2.7s, just waiting to see about reliability on things like trans, turbo, injection system and rod bearings. I believe a turbo 2.7 can perform a lot like a 5.3 but there’s always a compromise. Having the same or more torque going through half as many rod bearings could be an issue depending on tuning and bearing size. I know ram ran into with the eco diesel, they were putting out so much low rpm torque the rod bearings were being hammered out, they changed the tuning to keep rpm’s higher and then the complaint was that the edge in mileage over a V8 was partially lost. As far as mileage gain in these 2.7s over an older 5.3 I really don’t understand why people use that as a main justification it can be a nice bonus though. I just did some rough math and at $2.80 a gallon a person only saves $3,500 in 100,000 miles driving a pickup that gets 20 mpg over a one that gets 16mpg. Offset that by increased licensing and insurance of a new pickup (if your getting rid of an older pickup) than it’s moot point over driving and older one
I have a '22 Silverado 2.7T. Gas mileage depends on the driver. I get 21.5 country driving 24 on trips. My daughter gets 19/23, my son somehow gets 23.3/26 and the MPG computer is not far off. A small displacement engine with turbo is more sensitive to terrain or hard driving. A lot of the turbo reliability issues are of engines not engineered from a clean sheet (fingers crossed). The 5.3 and 6.2 are having massive failures. I'll take the 2.7.
I towed a 6000 lbs camper all through the hot, high altitude of the Colorado Rocky’s. Constantly pushing this engine as hard as I could. Never overheated and pulled great. However I could see carbon build up for sure.
WARNING im a GM enthusiast and this will be long winded...My dad just bought a 2024 Chevy Colorado with the 2.7. he has had 5 Colorados (a 2005 sold with 300k+, a 2011 sold at 140k, a 2016 sold at 135k, and a 2020 sold at 80k)and has had good luck with them for the most part. He had zero problems with the first three trucks. Until his 2019 w/ the v6 and 8 speed started having torque converter issues. I warned him that the 8 speed was failure prone and the 2.7 was an unproven and problematic engine, but he didnt care and bought the 24' anyway. The biggest takeaway I can assess about the 2.7 is that GM is being forced to develop an engine for the future of their mid size and half ton trucks. These regulations will get so stringent that eventually the only engine option will be a 4 cyl. Unless some common sense deregulation is done, this is a sure way for vehicle reliability to take an even more significant hit.
@@jason_l5pMy 2023 Silverado routinely gets 19K in the city and 24K on the highway. It has 26K miles so far. I agree about the government CAFE standards. I hope the next administration loosens those up. Especially for heavy duty vehicles.
I have the 2021 version and my truck has been at the dealer for 3 weeks for a lifter problem. Ive seen comments on here that say that these engines dont have lifter? I took it in for a ticking sound that was coming from the top of the engine. I took it in and two days later they told that it was a lifter problem.
My 22 Silverado crew cab 4x4 with the L3B gets 18 city 23 hwy I average 13mpg towing my travel trailer. My 2018 Silverado 2x4 with the 6 speed transmission gets 15 city 23 hwy and 13 towing the same trailer. I think people are complaining because they expect the 4 to get better highway mpg but given the two trucks I have the 4 is at least 20 percent more efficient than the v8. Especially with all the extra drag from the 4s 4x4 power train and larger cab.
2023,with 16000, best mileage 26.7 several times,tracked the first 11000 miles or so averaged 22.3 overall, set the cruise at 60/61 motor turns about 1400 rpm and gets 25mpg all day this motor has no problem getting out and passing when needed,never seen it drop to 2 cylinders, had a 5.3 best mpg 20 plus,time will tell but as of now very happy owner.
From what I read that the 2.7L CT4 accelerates from 0-60 in 4.4-4.8 seconds, if that is true yeah I think that the efficiency is where it is supposed to be.
Every day I drive a 2024 Chevy Colorado with this Engine for work and have put 17,000 on the Truck. The Average MPG reads 22. I would say there is definitely something wonky about the Transmission. Also it already threw a check engine light at 45 miles...hahaha lol Evap...
😂the 10 speed is the problematic one with the recently recalled transmission. The updated 8 is the better option. All the reviews from actual 2.7 owners are mostly positive. For the record you (reviewer) don’t have to apologize as it’s obvious you don’t have your facts straight.
I never said this engine was terrible - it just has a few shortcomings to it which lead me to get the 5.3L - because yes I actually own one of these things and have driven plenty with the 2.7 too
My 2020 Silverado 2.7L, is at 67k now. When I was changing the motor oil. It has a motor-oil leak from somewhere, between the motor and transmission. It's about 5 inches above the pan-oil, but I haven't seen any videos on this issue. I will hate to bring down the transmission just to see with more clarity where is coming from.
The engine was over built around the turbo instead of the other way around to be more reliable. Its the only GM engine to pass the million mile torture test. It was specifically built for the redesigned mid size trucks. It did so well in testing they put in the full size which gave GM 2 years to work out any issues. Considering how many are on the road now, any issues are minimal at this point.
I'm curious what the bottom end of this engine looks like after 80k miles andbsome towing. There's gotta be a lot of stress on the bearings at load and low RPM pulling a trailer.
My 2005 GMC Sierra 4x4 , gets 15 city and 19 mpg highway. Its got 187k miles. Bought it used, sweet truck. Soo tell me why this 2.7 is worth over $40k and get 1 or 2 mpg more!!???
Because money is worth much less than it used to be? In case you haven't noticed, these insane high prices for marginally better things is the new norm.
@@ravenovatechnologies6554 - I saw a video of a GM engineer talking about the 2.7. Engine built for a turbo -rather than tacked on later- electric water pump so you don't need to let it run to cool, etc. Torque curve is awesome. It all makes sense on paper. Problem is, most people driving a pickup aren't towing anything and want simplicity and longevity. You can still get a v-8, but still seems like the 2.7 is a one size fits all solution basically. For most people it's a lot of complexity and cost for little benefit. I wonder if there should be some product distinction between trucks that'll tow and haul things, and trucks that never will. I dunno, but yeah marginally better things for high cost that will be expensive to maintain in time is scary.
My work truck is a 21 Silverado with the turbo 4 and it's right at 48k miles. It's throwing a misfire on cylinder 2 code had a shop verify it's not misfiring. Only happens when sudden excelerating and then back off the throttle. It's also developed what I would call a lifter tick at low idle but ifl bump the rpm up very slightly it goes away. The sound is quite annoying. Was thinking about getting a Canyon but if that issue is going to show up it has me thinking twice.
He mentions the Ford Eco boost engines. I have seen all kinds of videos on the problems with these. I suspect this will be the same, most not lasting more than 100,000 miles without major problems. This kind crap is why I see quite a few old Ford Rangers and other older trucks driving around still. As rust is not an issue in Texas, where I live, people keep these old trucks. They are more reliable and less expensive to fix than modern trucks.
If you keep the oil changes done about 3-5 thousand miles and use good oil and filters you can get it to the mileage but i see turbos going bad just like all GM turbos and lots of people will not get the oil changes done on time because they want to save 100 to 150 dollars a year and cost them thousands but that is what keeps me working so, just dont blame me for being lazy on maintaining it.
I change the oil in my 2023 every 4K miles. For me that is every 3 months. I’m OK with that. I had a Ford F-150 with a 3.7L NA 6 cylinder before and did the same with it. It never even had a check engine light until 180K miles and then it was just an O2 sensor.
GM should have stuck with the V6. The 2.7 would be better and is better in the Colorado. Having it in the Silverado makes the 5.3 V8 redundant and the 6.2 the common option. 😊 Personal I dont care. Government has ruin trucks anyways. 😊
Ok this may not be apples to apples as I ordered a new 2024 Colorado 2WD and I get 23.5 mpg around town and 26 mpg highway so around 24.4 combine. All I could find on lots were 4WD and don't see a reason to buy one as I don't do off road and with tracking control no issues in snow either.
Cams are noted to be bad, had 8 fail in last month. 5k oil changes and oil samples sent in.had 3 that failed at 25 to 40k. Transmissions are garbage as well.
What type of cam failure? Are the failures related to the sliding collar mechanism or is there lobe damage from failed rocker arms/followers, or is it something else? Are the transmissions failing or just having shift quality issues?
@@bullitthead7853 I've seen mostly cam lobe failure. Tranny's torque converters and 2nd and 3rd gear are failing. Now they switched to f150 and im curious how the wet kevlar belt that rides in the oil pan is going to hold up. If a person wants to turn wrenches now is a good time.
A f m between the v8 and 2.7 work totally different the 2.7 uses a variable dual overhead cam that moves....the v8 doesn't... Hence the reason it does not fail or have the failure rate of the larger engine
Brand of fuel makes a difference i know my 99 with 5.3 at 186,000 miles runs poorly on Murphy gas but great on Exxon it has been the best out of all brands i have tried, dunno what the issue is but shows lean mixture on one bank i'd say intake gasket but runs as smooth as did when bought it new.
D - All depends on how well they are maintained. This goes with any vehicle on the road and, unfortunately, a TON of people don't take care of their vehicles like they should.
In my opinion engines are way better than they use to be, but the drivers ain’t, not maintaining oil changes and filters, not warming up the engine and every pull out is full throttle IHRA run. My advice for most people get the 2 boat anchors GM offers or offered, the 5.3 or 4.3 they are slow but they’ll handle a lot of abuse.
No they are not better, they have higher complexity and higher expense when repairs are needed. Plenty of cases of failures when people had documentation maintenance was being done and still had failures. You can keep drinking the Kool-Aid though:P
P - From an innovation standpoint, sure. But from a reliability standpoint, they aren't even close. As far as driver's not maintaining engines properly, we also agree!
@@crusher0427 What is sad the 5.3l was once one of the best engines ever made, but when they started tinkering with it adding AFM and other adds they ruined it. I have a 2003 GMC runs fine and 20 years old. It will need a new engine in the near future has a lot of miles, but its cheaper for me to put a new engine and transmission in it than buying a new Truck which is what I am going to do. I am NOT going to invest 60-100k bucks on a truck that will depreciate faster than grease lightning. I would rather invest that money into things that grow in value like property.
Premium fuel not only can give you the maximum operating efficiency from the engine, but it can prevent engine knocking which can destroy engines, another thing is that Premium fuel have specific additive package that helps to keep injectors healthier and ven the highpressure fuel pump. So don't be cheap on gasoline. Another tip is change your oil every 5,000 miles or every 6 months, if you think that is expensive try to learn how to change it yourself if possible, is true that motor oil is better than ever, but new engines require a good quality and clean oil to avoid problems.
I watched an interview with the Chief Engineer of the 2.7 and when asked about using premium fuel he said it would be a waste of money because the engine was designed to run on regular.
Not true. I’ve had both. The 5.3 and the 2.7. I get 1.5 to 2 miles per gallon better in the 2.7 than the 5.3. Not a significant difference but when gas is 4.35 a gallon in California it adds up.
I have a 2022 Sierra with 5.3 V8, without Fuel management, I am getting 19-21 mpg at 65 on highway distances of 65 miles. My 2019 Silverado with 5.3 with fuel management system that kicked down to four cylinders only got 2 miles more per gallon
The city fuel economy is dismal. But the highway and backroad is fantastic. I think they use the turbos way too much when you're starting from a stop. I get 2-3 mpg while accelerating no matter how fast or slow I come up to speed. I average 21.6 mpg after 13,000 miles. Highway trips are routinely 25+ mpg. I also don't think premium gas makes a discernable difference in fuel economy. In a naturally aspirated 5.7 hemi engine in at best got 1 mpg more running premium. In my maverick with the 2.0L I actually got 1 mpg worse with premium. With the GM 2.7 it made no discernable difference, like .2-.4 mpg depending on the tank.
My 2024 Canyon get's 19.3 combined @ 6,000' AMSL. Cheap gas or "mid-grade" can't tell the difference... That said, a 4 banger in a full size PU? Really, someone thought that was a good idea...Mary Who?
@@johnlittle6711 John, I traided my 2022 1500 Ram, regular cab, short box with the 3.6 V6 for the Canyon, cuz...It doesn't look like Stalantis / Ram will be among the living much longer. Regular cab, short box Sierra is a rare thing these days, a proper gentleman's truck, enjoy.
Can't see a 4 cylinder with a turbo charger being able to be sustained in the long run. Especially when the truck will be pulling & hauling stuff. I will always gravitate to either V-8s.
@@harrymiller8538 I completely understand. I'm very happy with the performance but I'm still skeptical about the longevity so I purchased a 120K/120mo extended warranty. If the V8 AFM/DFM wasn't killing those engines I would have likely gone that route.
If we go by what everyone says on these vehicle videos, we would just walk everywhere. One says they’re junk and the next says it is the best they’ve ever had. “Gm has this as a problem, Ford has that as an issue or Ram has a problem with the other. Then some guys say go Toyota and others say no way. lol whatever.
I have owned 5.3 V8 6/spd and 2023 2.7T and love the better fuel economy/torque/better gearing of 8spd. My fuel economy on 87 octane has been better all around than the 5.3. In highway and in town much more efficient
It's sad how Hyundai could figure out direct injection, and GM is still just starting at grassroots levels, and making the customer pay for their mistakes and poor design.
I have a 2021 2.7 turbo with 70000 miles was getting 19.7 mpg now 16.7 mpg seam to have a skip at 70mph no check engine light changed the plugs any suggestions
N - The drop in fuel economy and the skip at 70 mph in your 2021 2.7L Turbo, even after changing the spark plugs, could point to issues with the ignition system, fuel delivery, or airflow sensors. Since there's no Check Engine Light, start by inspecting the ignition coils for wear or intermittent failure, as a weak coil can cause subtle misfires. Check the fuel injectors and ensure the fuel system pressure is within spec, as clogged injectors or a weak fuel pump can lead to reduced efficiency. Additionally, clean the MAF (Mass Airflow) sensor and inspect for vacuum leaks, as improper airflow readings can affect engine performance and fuel economy. If the issue persists, consider having the ECU scanned for stored misfire or fuel trim data to narrow down the root cause. Keep us updated!
The old flathead was the way to go, but I’ll be honest I’m a steam engine man myself😂🤣😂🤣 I’m 62 and I remember in the late 60’s and early 70’s no one would touch a vehicle with 80k on it cause they were shat.
@ I ran into a guy about 8 or 10 yrs ago that had a brand new ford raptor and it had a 4 cylinder and I was shocked. He claimed it pulled like a V8 ! But I’m wondering, just how long? I’m of the belief that there is no replacement for displacement, especially when it comes to longevity. But I’m sorry, it’s morally wrong to put a 4 banger in a rapture lol
4 banger has lower gearing and u know the fuel mileage would be worse if had same gearing as the trucks with the 5.3's then would have less pulling power.
LOL dude you posted this a day ago and are still saying the 8 speed is worse than the 10 speed? Umm you live under a rock and not seen the recall for the 10 speed that the valve body is failing on and locking up the rear wheels on these trucks? I have no jerky shifts or any issue with my 8 speed 2.7 i get almost 20MPG unless I'm towing then it's back to V8 territory this whole video just seems like a hit piece to me.
Also, there is a recall on it that will get fixed for free...doesn't change the fact that the 10spd is a lot smoother, people like it more, and the 8-speed is more prone to failure outside of warranty that isn't covered by a recall. The trans causing the rear wheels to lock up isn't catastrophic transmission failure, it literally just requires a software update...not a hardware issue like the 8-speeds have.
Got a 2023 Silverado Crew cab 2.7 Liter with 18,000 miles on it. I bought it new and love it. No problems with it so far. I would buy it again. I am getting a 21-mpg fuel economy average . I don't baby it either. The truck delivers everything I need it to do.
A - Thanks for taking the time to share your first-hand experience!
I have A 2023 Silverado Regular Cab Long box and I am lucky to get 16-17 mpg on regular 87 octane. I am about to join the class action lawsuit. This is the worst truck I have ever owned. The brakes on most of these trucks is also that new all electric assist POS and it has been an unreliable cow for me too. This lemon just stalled on a busy road for me tonight and would not re-start and came back to the dealer on a tow truck.
N - Sorry to hear this.. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Same as F150 2.7
I had the 2.8 diesel and it was great. Only had the def heater and nox sensors replaced but other than that just a timing belt and brakes.
I've got one. It hauls the mail and has run great for 2 years. BTW it doesn't have lifters. It's an overhead cam. They're called followers since you know, they don't lift since they're being pushed down.
W - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. We've addressed this many times in the comments, lifters was a mix up of words.
I’m on my 2nd 2.7L and have had nothing but great results with it. To each his own, I guess
A - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
How many miles on it?
Sounds ironic if you're on your second one. Who paid you? Second one? ALREADY?
@tmo2798 U must not be too bright or just a hater. 2020 Sierra now a 2024 Canyon
@@alkatmerc5156 4 years later you bought another pickup? 'U' must be a trust-fundee.
I don’t know, man, I kind of have to disagree with a lot of this. Coming from a Silverado with the 5.3L/6sp in it to a Canyon At4 with the 2.7L/8sp, The canyon drives so much better. It’s not even comparable. I know it’s technically a smaller truck, but it only weighs 500 pounds less than the full size. With 30 K on the canyon, my overall average MPG is just under 20, and I do not baby this truck at all. the Silverado with a small lift, 1” taller tires was lucky to get 15. If you’re an aggressive driver, the eight speed actually does what you want it to do, unlike most automatic transmissions. I absolutely hated the six speed in the Silverado. The combination of the 2.7L/8sp in manual mode is just an absolute blast on the back roads, it’s like driving a go kart. I would never go back to a small V8 after having this turbo, but I completely understand why the boomers don’t like it.
I went from a 2014 4.3 6 speed to the 2024 2.7 upgraded 8 speed. Both trucks are single cab 6.6 bed. The 6 speed was rough as hell since day one. The 8 speed is nice and smooth so far.fuel mileage is similar between the two trucks. The 2.7 has a lot more power obviously.
B - Everyone is held to their own opinion. We appreciate you taking the time to share your experience!
@@youarerightboss I towed a lot with the Silverado, haven’t towed anything with the Canyon yet.
Easily get 26-30mpg with my 2.7l in my 2021 silverado. It's got a turbo you really should keep 91 or higher to keep it clean
@@sknight13602higher than 87 octane fuel is completely unnecessary in this engine, and running 91 octane will not improve performance nor keep the engine cleaner.
I have a 2020 2.7L, and honestly I love it. No issues up to 75k miles (I know that seems like a new engine at this point), outside of a little oil burn but not surprising with a turbo. My 8-speed seems smooth, but I am doing all the recommended maintenance. I love how responsive this engine is and prefer it over the last couple of trucks I've had. Only downfall is prior to 2021 they are only rated to tow 6600lbs, which for me is fine, but I feel like it takes a lot of people who want a truck out of that market. The 2020's take regular gas, and I get 19/20-23 mpg.
B - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! All really depends on maintenance.
next 25,000 miles gonna be expensive
Power has a cost. 300HP is going to drink a certain amount of gas no matter the cylinder count. People need to stop thinking 4 cylinders is automatically fuel efficient. Lifetime average in my case was 18.7 miles per gallon so not far off on 87 regular.
I had the 2021 version of this engine and just replaced the truck because of (surprise) collapsed lifter issue. Decided after dealing with 8-speed transmission issues since Day 1 I wasn’t willing to start down a road with the fuel management stuff anymore. Had to replace lifter bank and both camshafts.
Sold it back to the dealer and got a 6.6L gas. Old school pushrod V8 with no cylinder deactivation no active fuel management and no start stop garbage.
B - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Sounds like you went with a better one!
@@billjones373 , Why I waited to buy a 2022. Didnt want that AFM crapola or that 8 speed trans. GM needs to do better in ensuring better reliabilty & costly repairs why buyers look at Honda & Toyota for alternatives!
@@harrymiller8538 Well now they're saying the 10 speeds are having issues, another issue with GM's are the fuel pump modules a tow truck company down here in Texas was talking about how many they have to tow back to dealerships. Now i don't know if i want to go with the 2.7 or 5.3 i'm assuming dfm can be deactivated on the new ones right??
@larrytanton5787 , The new ones after 2021 dont have that crap. It didnt work on the 80s with the V-8-6-4 in the caddys then and with the computer gizmos today still dont work. Trans were 3 speed with overdrive. Sad GM or any of the companies wont make a reliable truck nowadays like the 90s were. That 5.7 was a darn good powertrain along with their trans then! Why so many are still on the roads..
@@harrymiller8538 I hear ya i had a 68 camaro 327 with turbo 400 tranny ya could not tear that tranny up they were installed in heavy duty pickups and were tough but i will say fuel injection has been the best thing that came along over carbs and points in distributors that would burn and need replaced.
Gm is so proud of this engine, they've given it a 100,000 mile warranty.
S - Lol, well said.
That makes sense if they have data to prove its reliability otherwise its suicide
Good one
I'm gonna be honest with you guys.....in 2018, I bought a 2018 hyundai elantra se, base model, even has a manual transmission. I have 152k on it, and I spent it has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Did spark plugs 2x, front brakes 2x, a right wheel bearing at 98k, a left wheel bearing 145k. Other than maintenance items, this car has been amazing. I would buy another Hyundai in a second.. I will say, now that I have 152k on it, I have to add 1 quart of oil every 1,500 miles... but it's been awesome. I also take amazing care of it.. anyway. Just sharing
J - Thanks for sharing!
I have the 2025 2.7L, I love the way it drives. Not understanding the jerky transmission comment, haven't experienced that.
C - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! How many miles do you have on it?
I have 55k on my 23.
The dealer changed out the fluid for the mobile synthetic upgrade under warranty.
I think this guy is just taking stuff off the website and not firsthand experience. I’m averaging about 19 1/2 total around town is more like 23/24 in four-wheel-drive extended cab 6 1/2 bed truck highway is about the same as the 5.3 a little better than the 5.3 in the trail boss probably because of the tires.
Oh, look another video where people that do not own the vehicle or the engine add their comments about it being junk.
You want me to post a video of my 2023 Silverado? This video sums up pretty well why I went with the 5.3L over the 2.7L.
Exactly mine has been great at 55k
Especially when they’re not using the lifters for the AFM system
I love my 2.7L. I’d buy again
M - Thanks for sharing your experience!
Me too. My 2023 has 26K miles. I get between 19 and 20 mpg in the city and 24 to 25 mpg on the highway.
@Hapalong put 200000 on it and say that. Hopefully you will
I had one and the thing I loved the most about it was the low end torque. Drives like a diesel and it was great. I had a 4.8 and 5.3, I preferred the 2.7 over both V8’s because of how it drives. Traded to a gas 2500 for better hauling capability but wouldn’t hesitate to get the 2.7 again in a half ton.
X - Thanks for taking the time to share your first-hand experience!
I’ve got a 2019 with 55,000 miles. No issues and I love mine. Will buy another one.
T - Thanks for taking the time to share your first-hand experience!
Have it in my 24 ZR2 Colorado and love it.
T - Nice! Keep us updated!
Can you expound on the zero-cylinder mode you mentioned?
M - The zero-cylinder mode in GM's Dynamic Fuel Management (DFM) system is an advanced feature that allows the engine to temporarily shut off all cylinders, essentially idling without combustion to maximize fuel efficiency. Unlike Active Fuel Management (AFM), which only switches between V8 and V4 modes, DFM can deactivate any combination of cylinders, including all eight, in real time based on driving conditions. This zero-cylinder mode occurs during deceleration or coasting, where the throttle is closed, and the transmission is in gear, allowing the vehicle to maintain momentum without using fuel. The engine’s valves remain closed, and fuel injection is completely cut off, reducing pumping losses and drag. This enhances fuel economy by minimizing unnecessary fuel consumption, especially during highway cruising or stop-and-go traffic.
Bought a 2019 2.7 brand new and has been a good engine with plenty of power, at 90,000 miles now with zero engine problems…
The 8L90 on the other hand…. I’m on number 2…
B - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
Will keep buying V8 trucks as long as I can.
R - Not a bad idea.
Concering AFM on this engine, do you know if there are electronic modules available to defeat this? I use one on my 5.3 V8, with excellent results. I’m thinking about downsizing to a GMC Canyon with this 4 cylinder L3B motor, but probably won’t take the chance if I can’t defeat and turn OFF the AFM.
J - There isn't a disabler yet, but it is certainly being worked on!
My 2024 GMC Canyon AT4 has the 2.7 and it delivers what it needs deliver and then some.
T - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
Its an OHC engine- it doesnt have lifter like the OHV V8s have.
Now the sliding cam setup- jury is still out on that but then this engine has been around for over 5 years now and I have not heard of any issues in higher mileage trucks. Have you?
These engines do have occasional rocker arm failures. There is a bulletin for it
My brother in law is coming onto 160k on his. Aside from a few recalls and a fuel injector replacement he’s had no problems.
@@coryw.9086that's the highest mileage on a 2.7 TM I've heard of them.
Yeah, drives a lot. Work’s oilfield and does quite a bit of hotshot stuff.
I chuckled at the lifter failure comment in this video as well dude doesn't know anything about this engine just a V8 guy who's mad about the 4 banger.
I have 2000 Silverado 5.3 with 275,000 miles and the engine/sensors all original and I wouldn’t trade it for the world (use it for hunting now days), if the new 5.3 were just a higher compression more refined versions of the gen 3 then hands down i would get one of those when I get another new pickup, but I have been considering one of these new 2.7s, just waiting to see about reliability on things like trans, turbo, injection system and rod bearings. I believe a turbo 2.7 can perform a lot like a 5.3 but there’s always a compromise. Having the same or more torque going through half as many rod bearings could be an issue depending on tuning and bearing size. I know ram ran into with the eco diesel, they were putting out so much low rpm torque the rod bearings were being hammered out, they changed the tuning to keep rpm’s higher and then the complaint was that the edge in mileage over a V8 was partially lost. As far as mileage gain in these 2.7s over an older 5.3 I really don’t understand why people use that as a main justification it can be a nice bonus though. I just did some rough math and at $2.80 a gallon a person only saves $3,500 in 100,000 miles driving a pickup that gets 20 mpg over a one that gets 16mpg. Offset that by increased licensing and insurance of a new pickup (if your getting rid of an older pickup) than it’s moot point over driving and older one
F - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! This is very insightful.
I have a '22 Silverado 2.7T. Gas mileage depends on the driver. I get 21.5 country driving 24 on trips. My daughter gets 19/23, my son somehow gets 23.3/26 and the MPG computer is not far off. A small displacement engine with turbo is more sensitive to terrain or hard driving. A lot of the turbo reliability issues are of engines not engineered from a clean sheet (fingers crossed). The 5.3 and 6.2 are having massive failures. I'll take the 2.7.
H - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
Do the colorado trucks have any issues? The ones with the 2.7 turbomax engine.
J - Honestly, too new to tell. There are a few folks that have them in the comments, check those out.
I towed a 6000 lbs camper all through the hot, high altitude of the Colorado Rocky’s. Constantly pushing this engine as hard as I could. Never overheated and pulled great. However I could see carbon build up for sure.
H - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
It is my understanding that AFM on the 2.7 is controlled by the overhead camshafts. It does not have traditional rocker arms per say?
C - Correct.
Hence no lifter issues.
Many are just grandfathering this engine into lifter issues because it’s a GMC product
WARNING im a GM enthusiast and this will be long winded...My dad just bought a 2024 Chevy Colorado with the 2.7. he has had 5 Colorados (a 2005 sold with 300k+, a 2011 sold at 140k, a 2016 sold at 135k, and a 2020 sold at 80k)and has had good luck with them for the most part. He had zero problems with the first three trucks. Until his 2019 w/ the v6 and 8 speed started having torque converter issues. I warned him that the 8 speed was failure prone and the 2.7 was an unproven and problematic engine, but he didnt care and bought the 24' anyway. The biggest takeaway I can assess about the 2.7 is that GM is being forced to develop an engine for the future of their mid size and half ton trucks. These regulations will get so stringent that eventually the only engine option will be a 4 cyl. Unless some common sense deregulation is done, this is a sure way for vehicle reliability to take an even more significant hit.
J - Thanks for taking the time to share his experience and these insights!
did your father already had any issues with his new colorado?
@ we’re about a month in and no. But time will tell
@@thelonglastexpert no issues. But it get worse gas mileage than the 2019 with the v6
@@jason_l5pMy 2023 Silverado routinely gets 19K in the city and 24K on the highway. It has 26K miles so far.
I agree about the government CAFE standards. I hope the next administration loosens those up. Especially for heavy duty vehicles.
I have the 2021 version and my truck has been at the dealer for 3 weeks for a lifter problem. Ive seen comments on here that say that these engines dont have lifter? I took it in for a ticking sound that was coming from the top of the engine. I took it in and two days later they told that it was a lifter problem.
P - Sorry to hear this... However thank you for sharing your experience!
My 22 Silverado crew cab 4x4 with the L3B gets 18 city 23 hwy I average 13mpg towing my travel trailer. My 2018 Silverado 2x4 with the 6 speed transmission gets 15 city 23 hwy and 13 towing the same trailer. I think people are complaining because they expect the 4 to get better highway mpg but given the two trucks I have the 4 is at least 20 percent more efficient than the v8. Especially with all the extra drag from the 4s 4x4 power train and larger cab.
K - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.
2023,with 16000, best mileage 26.7 several times,tracked the first 11000 miles or so averaged 22.3 overall, set the cruise at 60/61 motor turns about 1400 rpm and gets 25mpg all day this motor has no problem getting out and passing when needed,never seen it drop to 2 cylinders, had a 5.3 best mpg 20 plus,time will tell but as of now very happy owner.
Great to hear you are getting good mileage!
From what I read that the 2.7L CT4 accelerates from 0-60 in 4.4-4.8 seconds, if that is true yeah I think that the efficiency is where it is supposed to be.
R - Thanks for sharing!
Every day I drive a 2024 Chevy Colorado with this Engine for work and have put 17,000 on the Truck. The Average MPG reads 22. I would say there is definitely something wonky about the Transmission. Also it already threw a check engine light at 45 miles...hahaha lol Evap...
J - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.
what happened with transmission did you fix it?
😂the 10 speed is the problematic one with the recently recalled transmission. The updated 8 is the better option. All the reviews from actual 2.7 owners are mostly positive. For the record you (reviewer) don’t have to apologize as it’s obvious you don’t have your facts straight.
Exactly the 10 speeds are locking up real wheels due to a valve body failure been all over the news yet this guy says get the 10 over the 8 LOL.
I never said this engine was terrible - it just has a few shortcomings to it which lead me to get the 5.3L - because yes I actually own one of these things and have driven plenty with the 2.7 too
@@chris6743 Is that 10 speed problem with the newest trucks?
Surprisingly the 2.7 turbo max is doing better than their V8s right now
D - Thanks for sharing!
My 2020 Silverado 2.7L, is at 67k now. When I was changing the motor oil. It has a motor-oil leak from somewhere, between the motor and transmission. It's about 5 inches above the pan-oil, but I haven't seen any videos on this issue. I will hate to bring down the transmission just to see with more clarity where is coming from.
J - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
The 6 speed is a turd, it will grenade at or just above 100,000 miles. Great info.
W - Thanks for the feedback! Hope it helped.
Ur wild the 6l is a great trans. It’d the 8speed that’s trash
That they will do regardless of proper fluid changes.
D - Everyone is held to their own opinion.
The engine was over built around the turbo instead of the other way around to be more reliable.
Its the only GM engine to pass the million mile torture test.
It was specifically built for the redesigned mid size trucks. It did so well in testing they put in the full size which gave GM 2 years to work out any issues.
Considering how many are on the road now, any issues are minimal at this point.
D - Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I'm curious what the bottom end of this engine looks like after 80k miles andbsome towing. There's gotta be a lot of stress on the bearings at load and low RPM pulling a trailer.
U - We would agree!
My 2005 GMC Sierra 4x4 , gets 15 city and 19 mpg highway. Its got 187k miles. Bought it used, sweet truck. Soo tell me why this 2.7 is worth over $40k and get 1 or 2 mpg more!!???
It doesn’t make sense in anyway shape or form
It makes sense to the government bureaucrats setting CAFE standards, which dictates most of what the car companies do.
R - You tell us haha
Because money is worth much less than it used to be? In case you haven't noticed, these insane high prices for marginally better things is the new norm.
@@ravenovatechnologies6554 - I saw a video of a GM engineer talking about the 2.7. Engine built for a turbo -rather than tacked on later- electric water pump so you don't need to let it run to cool, etc. Torque curve is awesome. It all makes sense on paper. Problem is, most people driving a pickup aren't towing anything and want simplicity and longevity. You can still get a v-8, but still seems like the 2.7 is a one size fits all solution basically. For most people it's a lot of complexity and cost for little benefit. I wonder if there should be some product distinction between trucks that'll tow and haul things, and trucks that never will. I dunno, but yeah marginally better things for high cost that will be expensive to maintain in time is scary.
My work truck is a 21 Silverado
with the turbo 4 and it's right at 48k
miles. It's throwing a misfire on
cylinder 2 code had a shop verify it's
not misfiring. Only happens when
sudden excelerating and then back
off the throttle. It's also developed
what I would call a lifter tick at low
idle but ifl bump the rpm up very
slightly it goes away. The sound is
quite annoying. Was thinking about
getting a Canyon but if that issue is
going to show up it has me thinking
twice.
Same here but mine says cylinder 1
L - Sorry to hear this.. However, thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Keep us updated.
Might have carbon build up on your valves, maybe try a de-carb procedure.
He mentions the Ford Eco boost engines. I have seen all kinds of videos on the problems with these. I suspect this will be the same, most not lasting more than 100,000 miles without major problems. This kind crap is why I see quite a few old Ford Rangers and other older trucks driving around still. As rust is not an issue in Texas, where I live, people keep these old trucks. They are more reliable and less expensive to fix than modern trucks.
J - We will see!
I'll stick to V-8, and N.A. V-6 engines. less complication, and better longevity
N - Not a bad shout.
If you keep the oil changes done about 3-5 thousand miles and use good oil and filters you can get it to the mileage but i see turbos going bad just like all GM turbos and lots of people will not get the oil changes done on time because they want to save 100 to 150 dollars a year and cost them thousands but that is what keeps me working so, just dont blame me for being lazy on maintaining it.
M - Well said! Couldn't agree more.
I change the oil in my 2023 every 4K miles. For me that is every 3 months. I’m OK with that. I had a Ford F-150 with a 3.7L NA 6 cylinder before and did the same with it. It never even had a check engine light until 180K miles and then it was just an O2 sensor.
GM should have stuck with the V6. The 2.7 would be better and is better in the Colorado. Having it in the Silverado makes the 5.3 V8 redundant and the 6.2 the common option. 😊
Personal I dont care. Government has ruin trucks anyways. 😊
H - They certainly don't build them like they used to.
For reliability and affordability, we need to go back to 90hp flathead 4cylinders, better engineering all around to go to your grave in!
C - They certainly don't make them like they used to!
Ok this may not be apples to apples as I ordered a new 2024 Colorado 2WD and I get 23.5 mpg around town and 26 mpg highway so around 24.4 combine. All I could find on lots were 4WD and don't see a reason to buy one as I don't do off road and with tracking control no issues in snow either.
D - Nice! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
It doesn’t have lifters!!!! Bb
That’s what he said. He references the AFM and lifter problems on the 6 and 8.
Also doesn't have a timing belt. Has a chain.
M - Yes, we misspoke. Because we kept going back and forth with the V8.
Cams are noted to be bad, had 8 fail in last month. 5k oil changes and oil samples sent in.had 3 that failed at 25 to 40k. Transmissions are garbage as well.
T - Sorry to hear.. However, thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
What type of cam failure? Are the failures related to the sliding collar mechanism or is there lobe damage from failed rocker arms/followers, or is it something else? Are the transmissions failing or just having shift quality issues?
@@bullitthead7853 I've seen mostly cam lobe failure. Tranny's torque converters and 2nd and 3rd gear are failing. Now they switched to f150 and im curious how the wet kevlar belt that rides in the oil pan is going to hold up. If a person wants to turn wrenches now is a good time.
A f m between the v8 and 2.7 work totally different the 2.7 uses a variable dual overhead cam that moves....the v8 doesn't... Hence the reason it does not fail or have the failure rate of the larger engine
K - Correct. Thanks for sharing.
A 4 Cylinder in a full size pickup up? 😂😂😂 good only for hauling bread 😂😂😂
B - Lol
And not a lot of that
I use 87 top tier gas as recommended by the GM engineer of the engine and I get over 19 combined MPG on my 2024 2.7 Silverado.
M - Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to share!
Same here. The top tier gas should reduce carbon buildup but I wouldn’t be surprised if my engine needs it cleaned at 80K miles.
2023 Colorado here with 15,000 miles and I'm getting 22.7 all around city highway. Just keep your oil clean and run top tier fuel. Regular gas.
P - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
Brand of fuel makes a difference i know my 99 with 5.3 at 186,000 miles runs poorly on Murphy gas but great on Exxon it has been the best out of all brands i have tried, dunno what the issue is but shows lean mixture on one bank i'd say intake gasket but runs as smooth as did when bought it new.
Is there anything owners can do to mitigate the carbon buildup issues?
Fuel additives.
T - Catch cans are the best bet.
There's 500,000+ of the 2.7L engines out there with excellent reliability.
D - All depends on how well they are maintained. This goes with any vehicle on the road and, unfortunately, a TON of people don't take care of their vehicles like they should.
In my opinion engines are way better than they use to be, but the drivers ain’t, not maintaining oil changes and filters, not warming up the engine and every pull out is full throttle IHRA run. My advice for most people get the 2 boat anchors GM offers or offered, the 5.3 or 4.3 they are slow but they’ll handle a lot of abuse.
No they are not better, they have higher complexity and higher expense when repairs are needed. Plenty of cases of failures when people had documentation maintenance was being done and still had failures. You can keep drinking the Kool-Aid though:P
My 2021 Sierra 1500 blew its lifters at 5,000 miles. It was the 5.3 engine. Garbage...
P - From an innovation standpoint, sure. But from a reliability standpoint, they aren't even close. As far as driver's not maintaining engines properly, we also agree!
@@crusher0427 What is sad the 5.3l was once one of the best engines ever made, but when they started tinkering with it adding AFM and other adds they ruined it. I have a 2003 GMC runs fine and 20 years old. It will need a new engine in the near future has a lot of miles, but its cheaper for me to put a new engine and transmission in it than buying a new Truck which is what I am going to do. I am NOT going to invest 60-100k bucks on a truck that will depreciate faster than grease lightning. I would rather invest that money into things that grow in value like property.
J - Well said.
Hi, i have the 2025 silverado 1500 custom 2.7 turbomax and was wondering if anyone else heard a whining sound when driving.
B - Sorry to hear this.
Only the turbo whining as I’m roasting the tires
Is it DI, or port injection? I'm betting DI and that's why it's such poor mpg.
In order for me to consider a four cylinder, I would EXPECT 25 mpg.
The 5.3 V8 gets around 23-25 on the freeway, but this tiny 4 cylinder can't do that, funny enough.
@@Deleteguest Exactly!
S - Direct injection.
Premium fuel not only can give you the maximum operating efficiency from the engine, but it can prevent engine knocking which can destroy engines, another thing is that Premium fuel have specific additive package that helps to keep injectors healthier and ven the highpressure fuel pump. So don't be cheap on gasoline. Another tip is change your oil every 5,000 miles or every 6 months, if you think that is expensive try to learn how to change it yourself if possible, is true that motor oil is better than ever, but new engines require a good quality and clean oil to avoid problems.
R - All of this is well said. Thanks for taking the time to share this!
I watched an interview with the Chief Engineer of the 2.7 and when asked about using premium fuel he said it would be a waste of money because the engine was designed to run on regular.
You need to do some more research on this matter😂
I change my oil every 4K miles and only use the oil recommended.
Thanks for the truth
D - We try to provide facts and stats for others to draw their own conclusions. Thanks for the feedback.
Not true. I’ve had both. The 5.3 and the 2.7. I get 1.5 to 2 miles per gallon better in the 2.7 than the 5.3. Not a significant difference but when gas is 4.35 a gallon in California it adds up.
T - Thanks for taking the time to share your first-hand experience.
2023 2.7 4x4 mpg I average 21.7 to 24 slow and easy with 87 Octane
B - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
I have a 2022 Sierra with 5.3 V8, without Fuel management, I am getting 19-21 mpg at 65 on highway distances of 65 miles. My 2019 Silverado with 5.3 with fuel management system that kicked down to four cylinders only got 2 miles more per gallon
Our 23 with the 5.3 doesn't do too hot but we do a lot of idling and pretty much all city driving with what we use it for
The city fuel economy is dismal. But the highway and backroad is fantastic. I think they use the turbos way too much when you're starting from a stop. I get 2-3 mpg while accelerating no matter how fast or slow I come up to speed. I average 21.6 mpg after 13,000 miles. Highway trips are routinely 25+ mpg.
I also don't think premium gas makes a discernable difference in fuel economy. In a naturally aspirated 5.7 hemi engine in at best got 1 mpg more running premium. In my maverick with the 2.0L I actually got 1 mpg worse with premium. With the GM 2.7 it made no discernable difference, like .2-.4 mpg depending on the tank.
P - Thanks for taking the time to share your first-hand experience!
cheaper to dump a can of B12 in with every fill up it gives better fuel mileage :) Plus keep the fuel system clean.
My 2024 Canyon get's 19.3 combined @ 6,000' AMSL. Cheap gas or "mid-grade" can't tell the difference... That said, a 4 banger in a full size PU? Really, someone thought that was a good idea...Mary Who?
M - Couldn't agree more..
I have the turbomax in a sierra 1500. Goes great. Then Again probably weighs less than your little canyon. Single cab short bed.
That's pathetic, I get my 18 mi a gallon in my 5.3 2002 Silverado with a 4-in lift.
@@johnlittle6711 John, I traided my 2022 1500 Ram, regular cab, short box with the 3.6 V6 for the Canyon, cuz...It doesn't look like Stalantis / Ram will be among the living much longer. Regular cab, short box Sierra is a rare thing these days, a proper gentleman's truck, enjoy.
Can't see a 4 cylinder with a turbo charger being able to be sustained in the long run. Especially when the truck will be pulling & hauling stuff. I will always gravitate to either V-8s.
H - Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But V8 isn't a bad idea..
It passed the million mile torture test. No V8 GM has ever made has done that.
I only haul my 5K lb boat occasionally so it seemed like a good option for me. It hauls it with ease.
@@toddl1962 , Good for you. Like one poster said we all have our opinions & a turbo charged gas engine isnt in my future eva!
@@harrymiller8538 I completely understand. I'm very happy with the performance but I'm still skeptical about the longevity so I purchased a 120K/120mo extended warranty. If the V8 AFM/DFM wasn't killing those engines I would have likely gone that route.
The 2.7 engine is a overhead cam engine, doesn't have lifters like the V8 engines
D - We've addressed that we misspoke multiple times in the comments below :) We got confused with the 5.3's.
If we go by what everyone says on these vehicle videos, we would just walk everywhere. One says they’re junk and the next says it is the best they’ve ever had. “Gm has this as a problem, Ford has that as an issue or Ram has a problem with the other. Then some guys say go Toyota and others say no way. lol whatever.
C - The whole point of these comments is to provide an open forum for anyone to provide their opinion.
@@8020Media I had no idea
Turbo 4 in 5500 lb truck with fly apart by 80k mi
G - Thanks for sharing your experience! How's it working out?
I have owned 5.3 V8 6/spd and 2023 2.7T and love the better fuel economy/torque/better gearing of 8spd. My fuel economy on 87 octane has been better all around than the 5.3. In highway and in town much more efficient
R - Interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience!
That fuel economy is hardly better than my 2019 5.0 V8 in a crewcab F150 with a campershell.
M - True..
is 85 octane a real thing? I've swapped out tanks of 87 and 93, no change in fuel mileage. If I back off of 75+ mileage goes up significantly.
B - Yep, it's not very common. But can be found only in certain states.
I just had my 2.7 engine to fell on me and my Silverado and I don't even have 8,000 mi on it.
J - Sorry to hear this... Do you happen to know what happened?
I disagree with most of this. I have a 2.7 and the 8 speed tranny is smooth as butter. BTW 2.7L is big for a 4 cylinder. I get it you like V8’s.
R - Everyone is held to their own opinion. Thanks for sharing your experience.
If someone bought a truck with this engine that failed what can they swap it with? 5.3?
S - It would be very likely that it would still be under warranty.
It's sad how Hyundai could figure out direct injection, and GM is still just starting at grassroots levels, and making the customer pay for their mistakes and poor design.
F - It is very interesting.
I have a 2021 2.7 turbo with 70000 miles was getting 19.7 mpg now 16.7 mpg seam to have a skip at 70mph no check engine light changed the plugs any suggestions
N - The drop in fuel economy and the skip at 70 mph in your 2021 2.7L Turbo, even after changing the spark plugs, could point to issues with the ignition system, fuel delivery, or airflow sensors. Since there's no Check Engine Light, start by inspecting the ignition coils for wear or intermittent failure, as a weak coil can cause subtle misfires. Check the fuel injectors and ensure the fuel system pressure is within spec, as clogged injectors or a weak fuel pump can lead to reduced efficiency. Additionally, clean the MAF (Mass Airflow) sensor and inspect for vacuum leaks, as improper airflow readings can affect engine performance and fuel economy. If the issue persists, consider having the ECU scanned for stored misfire or fuel trim data to narrow down the root cause. Keep us updated!
Why would GM put AFM on a 4 banger? It should be getting near 4 cylinder economy off boost when cruising.
J - Agreed..
cylinder deactivation on a 4 banger? Wtf?
B - Right?!
In a 1/2 ton i will not have any 4 cylinder. It has to work its ass off to move it. A v8. Justs puts alone and thus better mpg and last longer 😊
A - We agree.. Unless you don't plan on towing!
That is why it's geared lower if had same gearing as the trucks with the 5.3 it could not pull jacksquat lol
These new motors are nothing but a headache just give me an old-time V-8 beats the hell out of this shit
Blame the government
And v8’s are headache free😂
The old flathead was the way to go, but I’ll be honest I’m a steam engine man myself😂🤣😂🤣 I’m 62 and I remember in the late 60’s and early 70’s no one would touch a vehicle with 80k on it cause they were shat.
L - They certainly don't make them like they used to...
2.7 Liter in a truck?? The Briggs and Stratton on my riding mower is bigger. Noooo Thanks!! What a joke!!
D - They can be good. Look at the EcoBoosts.
@ I ran into a guy about 8 or 10 yrs ago that had a brand new ford raptor and it had a 4 cylinder and I was shocked. He claimed it pulled like a V8 ! But I’m wondering, just how long? I’m of the belief that there is no replacement for displacement, especially when it comes to longevity. But I’m sorry, it’s morally wrong to put a 4 banger in a rapture lol
D - Everyone has their own opinions and experiences.
4 or 6 is fine for cars. I’ll never own a truck with a weak ass engine. I’ll stick with the v-8 or Duramax
D - Thanks for sharing.
It’s an I4 not V4
J - Thanks for the insight.
5.3 DOES get way better milage. So why the 4 banger ??
LFOD !
T - It is quite confusing.
4 banger has lower gearing and u know the fuel mileage would be worse if had same gearing as the trucks with the 5.3's then would have less pulling power.
That boost works on all engines or only 5.3?
L - We have a vehicle fitment chart on our website: boostafmdisabler.com/products/boost-afm-dfm-disabler
LOL dude you posted this a day ago and are still saying the 8 speed is worse than the 10 speed? Umm you live under a rock and not seen the recall for the 10 speed that the valve body is failing on and locking up the rear wheels on these trucks? I have no jerky shifts or any issue with my 8 speed 2.7 i get almost 20MPG unless I'm towing then it's back to V8 territory this whole video just seems like a hit piece to me.
Oh I totally forgot the 8-speed has had zero issues and people love it so much...
Also, there is a recall on it that will get fixed for free...doesn't change the fact that the 10spd is a lot smoother, people like it more, and the 8-speed is more prone to failure outside of warranty that isn't covered by a recall. The trans causing the rear wheels to lock up isn't catastrophic transmission failure, it literally just requires a software update...not a hardware issue like the 8-speeds have.
Expensive overpriced junk.
M - We agree it may be overpriced, but we don't think it is junk..
If you buy a truck kthinking about fuel economy you are in the wrong market .
Reliability and how long it will last is more important for me fuel is cheaper here in Texas.
R - We see where you're coming from, but a lot of people still do.
Exactly
Enough info for me to not want one
Or can’t afford one?
@johnlittle6711 sure can't
I own a 24 GMC Sierra with this engine most of what this guy said is completely false.
@chris6743 interesting
Is it? We’d love to hear what was false!
You forgot to mention it’s a oil burner
J - Thanks for the insight.
Poor GM engineers
G - True..
They all have their problems, and for the record the TurboMax with the updated 8 speed is probably the most problem free choices.
Poor engineering by gm
The main issue is the Fed and Regulations.
@@johnlittle6711 updated in the 2024 or 2025's?
Octane doesn't affect fuel economy per many years of tech report study
M - Okay