Locate and Eliminate bicycle noise: clicks, clunks, rubbing, creaking
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2020
- 00:38 Clicking while coasting but NOT while pedaling
02:00 Clicking while coasting AND pedaling
02:26 Rubbing noise
04:04 Creaking sounds: seatpost/saddle/pedals/cleats/bottom bracket
Half the battle in eliminating bike clicks, bike clunks, bike creaking and rubbing is finding out where it's coming from. It takes time and patience and I usually suggest starting with some of the easier repairs first. If that doesn't solve it, move on to another component. We'll link to our playlist on bike noise at the end of the video. Lets continue our observations.
1. Clicking or clunking while coasting but NOT while pedaling
The only thing turning while coasting but not while pedaling in your freehub The freehub is made up of pawls that engage the spines of the freehub as you pedal. But when coasting, the pawls are pushed down to allow the wheel to turn independent of the pedal and chain movement (i.e. coasting). Clucking or clicking when coasting but not pedaling may indicate that dirt or grime is preventing the pawls from being pushed down when coasting or there may be internal damage to the freehub. We suggest taking your bike to your local bike mechanic to overhaul the freehub and eliminate the noise.
2. Clicking while pedaling: See our video in the upper right. Also consider problems with pedal bearings. And check your cleats for wear, especially Look style cleats.
3. Clicking while coasting AND pedaling
a. Look for embedded particles in your tires such as glass or small stones which will click against the road pavement
b. Also check the bikes brake pads for embedded particles which may intermittent be clicking against the wheel rim
c. If you have a magnetic sensor attached to a spoke, check it is not hitting the odometer pickup
d. Make sure the wheel quick release is closed and tight
e. A loose spoke may sometimes give a pinging sound as the wheel rotates
4. Rubbing sound as the wheel rotates coasting AND pedaling
a. Check that the wheel is properly installed and centered between the brake pads. The rim brakes themselves may need to be centered (CARD)
b. Carefully look over the tire for defects that may be causing the tire to bulge and hit the brake pad as the wheel rotates. If so, replace the tire immediately or you may have a sudden blow out and flat.
c. If you have disc brake noise, make sure the disc is not bent and is centered between the brake pads. If the disc is aligned properly between the pads but you still here an intermittent rubbing sound, clean the disc with some rubbing alcohol to remove any grit or grime that may be the culprit.
5. Creaking
a. Creaking seatpost: Remove and clean to seatpost and seatpost clamp. Clean and apply Fiber Grip (prevents slippage even if you're not dealing with carbon fiber).
b. Creaking saddle: Remove and clean. Apply grease or Fiber Grip to the saddle rails. Make sure the saddle clamp is tight (torque to specs, don't over tighten or the bolt(s) may break while cycling.
c. Check the pedal are tight. You can also remove the pedals, grease the pedal spindles and re-tighten the pedals.
d. Worn pedal, worn cleats or old bicycle shoes can creak (the latter due to some flex that occurs in the hard shoe sole over time).
e. Finally, you may need to overhaul your bike's bottom bracket. GCN has an excellent review on how to do this. The link is in the upper right. It may involve just removing, cleaning, and re-greasing the bottom bracket. But some bikes, even fairly new will have a creaking bottom bracket. Using plumbers' tape, anti-seize, or other methods will decrease BB movement, flex and noise.
Remember that all bike noise can represent a mechanical problem and should be investigated. Much can be prevented by good maintenance of components and replacement of worn parts. - Спорт
Seeing genuine people like you repairing bikes is an inspiration!
Thank you. Also visit our UA-cam home site at:
ua-cam.com/users/MrTony10speed
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
man, your channel is from ANOTHER PLANET! Thank you for all your tips!
Bicycle noise is one of the most difficult things to track down. Glad this was helpful. Regards, Tony
Your videos are always very useful and thorough. I’m in month 4 of trying to diagnose a clunking/creaking sound. To date, I’ve replace the pressfit BB (via LBS), regreased the carbon seatpost (fiber grease) and the QRs (fiber grease) and cleaned, regreased the hubs. The noise doesn’t tend to show up until 20-30 miles into a ride most rides but once it occurs it is steady throughout the ride. Never occurs when coasting, only when pedaling and more when pushing (quad) than pulling (hamstring). I can take my shoes out of the clips and it will still occur with pressure. The noise occurs multiple times (2-3) in a revolution and always sounds like it is coming from the rear (although I realize noise can be difficult to pinpoint on carbon frames). The noise tends to sound more like a clank or clunk than a creak or ping. I’ve changed the rear wheel out with another and it stopped. I can also dismount, hold the rear brake (rim brake) on and put hand pressure on the crank and the exact creak occurs once at the engagement point. Wheels are Vision Metron 40s, groupset is SRAM. Noise can occur in both large and small chainring and seems somewhat worse in the easier (larger) gears than the harder (smaller) gears.
Solved my pedal creak problem. Thanks for the video, straight to the point.
You're Welcome. Also visit our UA-cam home site at:
ua-cam.com/users/MrTony10speed
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
Your video really helped me eliminate my bikes noise problem
Tell us more about the problem so we can educate our viewers? Thanks and regards, Tony
Thanks for the video! You have opened the door to my problems, Thanks!
You're Welcome. Also visit our UA-cam home site at:
ua-cam.com/users/MrTony10speed
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
thanks tony, very helpful and useful video!!
my bike just started making some odd noises recently so this can help!
Let us know what the problem was and it you were able to fix it. Regards, Tony
Great video
Thank you. Also visit our UA-cam home site at:
ua-cam.com/users/MrTony10speed
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
Thank you, you've been helpful.
Hope to bring you additional concise videos. Regards, Tony
Great video thank you
Glad it was of help. Regards, Tony
Imaginative video thanks
My practical knowledge over years of bicycle repair. Thanks, Tony
Thank you
My pleasure. Regards, Tony
@Tony Marchand Found it! It is loose spoke. My wife set on the bike slowly moving like inch per sec, and the loose spoke were rubbing over the other making sound. Very, very hard to say for inexperience, and here it is in your video 2:20 to 2:25. Thank you for the guidelines through this diagnostics.
That happens. I and our views appreciate the feed back. You'll need the spoke tightened, the other spokes checked and the wheel trued to assure that the wheel functions properly and won't give you a problem out on the road. Unless you have experience truing wheels, it's best done by your local bike shop. Thanks again for the feedback and safe cycling, Tony
Thanks very much
Your welcome. Regards, Tony
I had a noise that only clicked 2 times per complete full cycle, on riding uphill or first few cranks starting out from a complete stop; HARD to find on the stand with no stress!
I just bought for my brother, a practically new bike from someone that never found time to ride it. I knew it was not a tired bottom bracket or anything serious of course; I found it was a loose nut on the back wheel; looks like it never got assembled right; there's only 300 miles on this bike, and it has a loose wheel nut? Not tightened to spec from the bike shop or factory. It was only on the left side away from the gears; was quite loose, without much play in it however; but not even finger tight.. 3/4 inch nut, or mm equiv.
The loud click was from the loose nut and the lock washer caught between nut and main washer. Wheel did not come off when riding; but I'm amazed original owner did not see that, before selling it to me. It made all the difference to fix one thing at a time; test ride it, and I could tell instantly I had my culprit!
Had to re-align the back caliper too; glad I just purchased a rotor alignment shoe that fits over the rotor when adjusting; worked like a charm; I find them difficult to adjust properly otherwise. It was definitely out of alignment once the wheel was on tight; it would not spin for long when on a stand, without realignment, and when I loosened the caliper, took it out of the equation; all was well... nice to have a bike stand, can't recommend it enough; if you like bikes, get a stand.
Great job Sir! My only complaint is I wish you had a graspable handrail on your stairs. Hehe UA-camr complaining... finding small errors...
Keep the bikers riding! Great tutorial!
I do. You just can't see it behind the white back drop. Thanks for the compliment. Regards, Tony
Thanks for the tips, I love watching your videos! I have an interesting problem in that I hear a clicking from the bottom bracket area, but only when the chain is on the largest chainring gear, and only when I pedal hard with my left foot. It doesn't matter whether I'm sat or stood, but when I push down hard on the left pedal with my left foot I hear the click. I don't hear anything when pushing hard on the right foot. I'm starting to think the pressure of me pushing down is causing the pedals to pivot slightly which is causing the right pedal to catch on something - but I can't see any evidence of scrapes or catches. I'm kinda stuck!
Before you take apart the bottom bracket:
1. Check for wear on your shoe cleat or surface of the pedal.
2. Check the pedal - see:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
3. Could also be the bearings in the left pedal. You'd need to borrow a pedal to try a different one out.
4. Finally, you can overhaul the bottom bracket. This is something your bike shop can do for you (although I still feel it has something to do with the pedal).
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
Hi Tony, here's one for your playlist: spoke tension (or lack of). While riding I was hearing a metallic clanking sound from the rear. At first I thought the rear mech was hitting the spokes. I took the bike to my lbs who immediately spotted the problem- the spoke tension needed tightening. Problem solved.
Nice find and very helpful to our viewers. Regards and safe cycling, Tony
Thank you very much, I have some noise in my rear wheel and it has band brake Karasava. Now I am greesing bearings and let's see what we got...
Is the noise while pedaling, coasting or both? What kind of noise is it? Let us know if greasing the bearings does the trick? Tony
@@tony10speed I put the wheel back and it is the same. I only did not take the freewheel off the wheel and grease. Also, the cracking sound disapear when I lean forward to steer bar. I can't think of anythig else but the freewheel itsef.
@@tony10speed Both it is like chirp and chuckle at every wheel turn and only when I ride. No noise when I get off the bike and spin the wheel. No noise in the bottom bracket either. Wheel bearing are greased.
@@tony10speed Found it! It is loose spoke. My wife set on the bike slowly moving like inch per sec, and the loose spoke were rubbing over the other making sound. Very, very hard to say for inexperience, and here it is in your video 2:20 to 2:25. Thank you for the guidelines through this diagnostics.
Thanks Tony for such great information..
I experience creaking sound and unable to locate the source.. it is coming either from the bottom bracket.. but it creaking only comes after i have done like 2 miles and the sound intensifies post that.. it still comes when i am not pedaling which makes me wonder if it from the bottom bracket or from the front wheel
Creaking or noise when pedaling and coasting suggest 2 possibilities. The only things turning when coasting are the wheels and freehub (not the bottom bracket).
1. Wheel bearings: The bearings and/or cones of one or both wheels may be worn and may need replacement.
2. The freehub may need service or may be broken.
Your local bike shop can help you with these.
One more note: Be sure it's not the saddle or seat post. Easy to check - does the creaking stop if you stand while on an uphill. And be sure it's not the handlebars. Does the creaking become less if you let up your hold on the handlebars?
Let me have some feedback since both our viewers and I learn through the feedback. Regards and safe cycling, Tony
On each crank (360) of front while peddling, the rear spocket is very slightly delayed, causing a sound in the back. You can feel a clunk on each revolution of your peddles when the rear sprocket catches up to the forward peddling. The rear wheel doesnt wobble just delay then sound when it catches up.
The parts that that could be a fault are known as the pawls and the ratchet inside the freehub. Slipping can happen for a number of reasons, including worn ratchet, worn pawls, weak springs, or excessive accumulation of grease & grime within the freehub.
Depending on the hub you have, a repair consists of either cleaning, rebuilding or replacing the freehub. Some freehubs are rebuildable, others are not and must be replaced as a unit. That said, it's often possible to extend the life of a non-rebuildable freehub by flushing out the old grease & gunk and regreasing.
The mechanic at your local bike shop can almost certainly take care of this for you. If you're more of the do-it-yourself type, www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/freehub-service has step-by-step instructions for several different freehub types.
This video may be of interest to you in explaining how a freehub works:
ua-cam.com/video/TMWmnv6o9Zc/v-deo.html
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
This was great...thank you. I'm left with one small rubbing sound only during one part of the back wheel revolution and it only happens when I pedal. If I coast, you don't hear it. Ideas?
That's a tough one. Does it happen in either chainring or in specific cogs? Could it be coming from worn pedals or shoe cleans? Check your cleats and pedals for wear. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
Is the back of your bike shoe rubbing on the crank or frame?
Also check your bottom bracket:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
Tony, I have a squawker! It's a titanium road bicycle which creaks and squawks while pedaling, and originally the noises would begin a few miles into a ride and be almost incessant the rest of the way. It is not present when coasting, but the noise will happen when standing. The shop swapped the bottom bracket (threaded external bearing type) but that didn't cure the noise. Now for the mysterious part: after washing the bicycle, it was quiet for several weeks of riding but the creak has returned. It is now present as soon as the ride begins, and is heard with even very light pedal efforts. A subsequent bike wash had no effect.
Other info: Chainring bolts, pedals, cassette, rear d/r hanger, both q/rs are tight. Noise is present in any chainring/cog combo. Different shoes have no effect. No frame cracks are visible. Any tips or suggestions are appreciated! It's loud and it's embarrassing.
Thanks for all the info. I've been thinking about your problem all day when out cycling. I really think it's the bottom bracket. On some bikes there is some give between the threads of the bottom bracket and the threads of the frame. This occurred on one of my older steel bikes with a threaded bottom bracket. What I did was to apply some plumbers tape (Teflon tape) around the threads of the bottom bracket and then tightened the bottom bracket cups tightly. That got rid of the noise.
Also see:
ua-cam.com/video/Z8fMGvtc1mg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GCNTech
Let me know how you make out. Tony
Tony, thank you! Today's experiment was removing the seatpost to clean and regrease it, along with the seat tube clamping area. That resulted in a quiet ride, but I won't call it a success just yet. What put me off from doing this earlier was how it creaked even if I stood while pedaling. Sneaky devils, these creaks!
Had a clicking that only happened under power. Didn't matter what gear or speed. Changed bb, greased bb, glued bb, to no help. I was getting ready to replace the bb again and put the allen wrench, that I was using to remove the peddle, in the thru axle for safe keeping. I grabbed the allen wrench to use again and it moved, Turns out the axle thru bolt was loose. Tightened it up and not one click since.
Nice find and good info for our viewers. Thanks and safe cycling, Tony
If the wheel is not put correctly, it may rub against the disc brake pads (or rim pads). I always check the wheel and its alignment whenever I remove and replace the wheel.
Excellent. Hope other viewers do the same. Thanks and regards, Tony
Im getting a clicking in the front end intermittently. It is when I go into a road dip or come off a sidewalk grade. It happens while coasting. I took the bars and fork apart and greased and torqued it down all the way. I am at a loss. This is a new bike. Carbon fiber bars and a rock shock suspension stem.
My guess is that it's coming from the suspension stem "bottoming out" when you ride over a grade or road dip. I'm not sure how to adjust the stem which are relatively new to cycling. Some have "elastomers" of various types to absorb more shock. Others, you can set the "preload." I don't have experience with the rock shock suspension stem so you'll need to check with your local bike shop. Let me know how you make out so we all can learn. Thanks, Tony
Hey Tony, great videos! I have a mountain bike (Specialized Hardrock). It has a thunking sound at every pedal revolution. I was convinced it was a centre mounted kickstand hitting the pedal. The kickstand came off and I still hear the noise. When I spin move the pedals with the tires off the ground I can't hear anything. It seems to only be when weight is applied. Any ideas? It has a sound like a kickstand hitting metal pedals.
A clunking under load may have several causes. I'll list them in order of probability:
Bottom bracket is the most common. See: ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Less likely but possible is a loose headset. More likely to be intermittent and more pronounced when climbing. See: ua-cam.com/video/N0Zagtnyhys/v-deo.html
Finally pedal problems (including loose bearings), less likely to produce clunking sounds. See:ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
Also make sure the wheel are inserted properly. My bet is the bottom bracket. You may want to have your local bike shop take a look. There are many different types of bottom brackets, some requiring special tools. Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
your channel is great! I have a question tho, there is this sound coming from the front of my bike that I can't quite identify, it happens when I ride my bike, while pedaling and while coasting, but if I turn the wheels while I am off the bike it makes no sound, so I assume it has something to do with the weight of my body being on it.
What kind of noise: creaking, clicking, rubbing, pinging or thud like sound? Is it worse when pulling on the handle bars going up hill and less when you ease up on the handlebars on the flats? Listen closely as you ride to try and get an idea as to whether it could be coming from the bottom bracket or front wheel. Let me know and we'll go from there. Tony
@@tony10speed thank you for the swift reply! I kept watching your tutorials and kept trying things last night and I actually managed to find the noise culprit, it was a couple of loose spokes. Problems of riding a 29'er lol. Thank you very much, your tutorial was the only one that pointed out it might be the spokes, it was driving me insane for sure.
@@queweamiraitantofeoculiao5826 Good work. Patience pays off. Thanks for the feedback. Regards, Tony
Thanks for you awsome video. I've a problem of some random ping sound every time i ride when bike. It only happens when i pedals and it only happens once in a while (2-3 times over a 2 hour ride). Its very loud that my friends riding with me can hear it clearly. I am on the heavy side at 110kg. I changed bike from between aluminum bike to a carbon one from Merida and Giant both are within 3 months old bike. I tried replacing pedal already but the sound still occurs. Do you think you can give me some pointer?
Check your spokes for tightness by plucking them like a guitar. A very low sound indicates a loose spoke which can cause pinging, especially under tension when you pedal hard. See: forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/13068835/quot-pinging-quot-rear-spokes
The other problem to consider are the bottom bracket bearings with inferior sealing, especially under load. Finally, some carbon fiber bikes have some flex causing occasional noise (but not usually a pinging sound). If it's not the spokes, I'd return to the dealer to check out the bottom bracket as well as the wheels themselves. I wish I can be of more help but it's hard to solve intermittent noise problems, especially over the internet.
Let me know how you make out so I and our viewers can learn also. Regards, Tony
Hi tony can i ask you about clicking sound on my bike that comes only when i pedal hard both in the small or big chainring, very obvious when it comes to climbing and when just started riding
Does it occur in all cogs? Is the click once per pedal revolution or more often?
I have a clunk noise while pedaling from the back and each time it does 'clunk' it like freezes for a second, even when I don't shift gears. The gears were replaced some time back.
Stretched chain and worn cog can cause slippage and noise. See:
ua-cam.com/video/FzyRCcjRuu0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/g5uqTNmikro/v-deo.html
Several other possibilities:
Bottom Bracket. See: ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Freehub: See: ua-cam.com/video/TMWmnv6o9Zc/v-deo.html
If it's coming from the rear, my guess is the freehub or freehub bearings. You would need your local bike shop to look at the freehub for cracks, brakes or other problems such as bearing wear.
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
I'm hearing a clunk sound possibly from the crank on every wheel cycl.. only when I'm standing and pedalling, I can't seem to find the cause.
Do you mean every time you push down on the pedal or every wheel cycle which is about every 3 pedal strokes?
I have clicking while riding and coasting which does not happen when I have it on a bike rack. I have to be riding the bike to get the clicking
Clicking (not creaking or knocking) while pedaling AND coasting indicates something to do with the turning of the wheels as opposed to the handlebars, seat of bottom bracket. You may or may not hear the clicking on a bike stand where the bike is not under the added weight of the rider. Here are some keys to look for starting with the easiest:
1. Check that an odometer magnet is not hitting the pickup on the fork.
2. Remove each wheel and lightly grease the quick release skewers. Replace the wheels and tighten the skewers making sure the wheel is properly aligned.
3. Pluck the spokes looking for a loose spoke.
4. Finally, the clicking may be coming from worn bearings in one of the wheels or from the freehub. If you have another set of wheels, you can narrow it down to the wheels or freehub. Investigation and overhaul of these items are best suited for your local bike shop.
Let me know how things work out so we too can learn by your experience. Regards, Tony
I have a problem of feeling a clunk in my pedal stroke every few revolutions. I've replaced the bottom bracket and its exactly the same. When I put the bike on the stand and use my hand to turn the crank as hard as I can, it all appears ok and no clunk can be felt. As soon as I ride, the clunk can be felt through the pedal stroke again. Strangely, I've noticed it under average load on the flat, but under heavy load or stood up climbing, it disappears. Any advice would be appreciated because it's driving me insane. thanks
What you describe has happen to me when I'm fatigued and not keeping a steady cadence.
Maybe this discussion will help:
www.roadbikereview.com/threads/rear-wheel-clunking-noise.252239/
Other less likely causes include worn shoe cleats, pedal bearing, loose pedal or pedals that need removal, cleaning, lubrication of the pedal spindle and re-tightening. You may not notice the sound under load such as climbing.
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
The most common cause of clicking on my bike is from the wheel magnet hitting the odometer pickup on my fork. How can I keep the pickup from moving?
The pickup is usually held on by zip ties. Take a piece of electrical tape and place it vertically on the inside of the fork across the zip ties and press firmly in place. You won't see it on the inside of the fork, it will not interfere with the pickup and will hold that pickup in place for many months if not a year. Regards, Tony
theres a loud concerning clunk on my bike, doesnt happen often but happens at least once a ride, its a loud clunk, its like shifting to a high gear, it happens mid pedaling, starting to pedal and when coasting, could that be the effect of rough roads?
also, my steerer has this clicking, ive checked its not my cables hitting the frame, however it does sound like the frame is colliding with another metal
Several possibilities but I'd first check out the headset as in the video below:
ua-cam.com/video/N0Zagtnyhys/v-deo.html
Check this first then we can talk about other possibilities such as freehub and handlebar noise.
I have a 29 se bike big flyer and when I'm in a wheelie and i go back down it makes this loud noise and i don't know what it is
Make sure the front wheel fastened in properly and is secure.
If you have front shocks, you are probable bottom out and the shocks need to be adjusted.
Most of the SE Big Flyers don't have shocks and the "clunk" as you come down may be coming from the headset. Take a look at our video on headsets:
ua-cam.com/video/N0Zagtnyhys/v-deo.html
Another possibility is the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
Hi Tony! I have a clicking sound that only occurs when I pedal hard, like when I do uphills or upon starting, would really appreciate it if you’ll reply, thanks!
Clicking sounds are always difficult to pin point. I've had clicking coming from the handlebar clamp as I grab them hard going up hill. The noise was present only when grabbing the bars firmly but was quiet on the flats. See:
ua-cam.com/video/8Sv_cBBDu6Q/v-deo.html
Other times I've had clicking coming from the pedal and bottom bracket under load. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Finally, it could be the bearings of the bottom bracket or the bottom bracket may need an overhaul. I'm sorry I can't be more specific but these noise problems are difficult to manage and require persistence to locate. Regards, Tony
My bike has a weird clunk only when I start pedaling. it happens once or twice and then goes away, even when I am pedaling hard on slopes it doesn't happen. it's only when I start, I thought it was the chain but now that you mention the pedal it could be that the pedal is losened and resting in oneñpositio and when I start moving it it moves to another position and doesn't come back until I stop pedaling hard again.
This is a tough one to answer. Some things to consider:
1. Your pedaling action: Could it be that when you start up your in a relatively low gear and the clunk is occurring as you first bring you foot up and over the 12 o'clock position? This has occasionally happened to me as I fatigue, am in a relatively low gear, and I notice some foot hesitating as I bring it up and around when I pedal.
2. Wheel freehub problem: Some freehubs may clunk as they first engage the splines in the hub due to dirt or lack of grease. As you get going, things quiet down.
Listen to the clunking an try to get an idea of where it's coming from. See if you can reproduce the sound if you stop pedaling and coast, then start pedaling again. There's no easy answer here. If it's the freehub, you'll eventually hear sounds at other times. Keep me up to date as you explore this problem so we can all learn. Regards, Tony
@@tony10speed it is a single speed. And I think it happens only when I engage the right pedal. I will use it tomorrow and report back. Thanks for the quick answer
@@tony10speed I finally solved it, it was a slightly bent chain ring. I didn't want to bend it back to its original position because it was quite heavy steel crankset so I replaced it. Now the bike doesn't make any noise.
Hi tony i was wondering you could help when ride my biycle after riding for 2 mine everytime i pedal the front wheel sound likes chirping and when i stop the pedaling it stops the noise do u have any solution?
If the noise only occurs when pedaling but not cycling, it would indicate a drivetrain issue. These include worn pedals/cleats, worn chain/cassette or chainring, or bottom bracket problem. Bike noise can be hard to locate since noise can travel along the frame to appear to come from other parts of the bike (not necessarily from the front wheel). Tackle the easy thing first. Check the cleats and pedals for wear.
Visually check your cleats and pedals for wear and replace if needed.
Check the chain for wear as well as the cassette and chainrings:
ua-cam.com/video/FzyRCcjRuu0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/g5uqTNmikro/v-deo.html
Re-grease the pedals:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
Finally, check the bottom bracket:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
The chirping noise sounds usually are related to a worn chain but it also could be a bottom bracket issue. If the above doesn't help, have your local bike store take a look and consider having the bottom bracket overhauled.
Let me know how you make out and if any of the above videos help. Regards, Tony
Hi i have a squeaky noise while I am pedalling and coasting. It is coming from my back tire
The only things turning when coasting (and pedaling) are your rear wheel and freehub.
1. If you have a squeak or squeal that occurs while you are pedaling or coasting, it is usually a caliper alignment issue or a bent rotor that is causing your brake pads to rub as you ride. Pick up the back of the bike and spin the back wheel. If the wheel does not spin freely and comes to a stop, you have a brake rub issue! Even if the wheel doesn't stop, try removing the wheel and reinstalling. As you spin the back wheel, make sure it does not rub the brake pads or the disc rotor is centered and not rubbing against the disc pads. If it does, the wheel may be out of alignment, the rim brakes may need to be adjusted, the disc rotor may be bent or need to be re-centered between the disc brake pads.
2. Place a light coat of grease on the rear wheel skewer and re-insert the skewer. Take a ride.
3. The grease in the rear wheel bearings may have "dried up" or been washed out and the hub may need to be overhauled.
4. Finally, but less likely, the freehub may need to be overhauled and greased.
The last two problems may require the help of your local bike shop. Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
i got clicking problems, you know those gears on the pulleys, the chain keeps on skipping from the middle of the gear to the side. got any solutions?
I assume you are talking about the teeth on the pulley wheels. If so, they may be worn or broken. Take a look at the following video:
ua-cam.com/video/Nwt7VBPSIEk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
Hello sir!
I get a noise near the front suspension somewhat like metal noise any idea how to fix?
Here is a nice review of mountain bike noise that may help you narrow down the problem:
ua-cam.com/video/BcpMbHldm1k/v-deo.html
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
I have a sporadic clunk noise, ussually after cornering
Sporadic noise is difficult to locate. Check that your pedal are tight. Bottom bracket is the most likely culprit. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Also check the headset:
ua-cam.com/video/N0Zagtnyhys/v-deo.html
Most other problems cause clicks and creaking. If the above are not the problem, keep listening carefully to see where the noise may be coming from. These problems definitely take time and patience to sort out. Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
I've got a clicking noise that I can't figure out. I can't recreate the sound when it's in the stand which makes it difficult to try and locate as it only happens when I'm riding. There's a clicking noise that happens when I shift weight from side to side, happens most when I'm in the drops. Any ideas? I removed the faceplate on the stem cleaned, greased the screws and fiber gripped and it's still happening. Next I'll try the seat post I think.
Try the seatpost:
ua-cam.com/video/AjddeJ2m4ss/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Several questions:
1. Do you have carbon handlebars? If so, is there flex in the handlebars if you stand and push down on one side while holding the other. If so, you may have an internal crack in the bars.
2. Double check the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Finding the source of clicking sounds requires real detective work. The sound isn't always coming from where you think. Good luck and let me have some feedback so we all can learn.
Regards, Tony
My MTB bike has creaking on the shock absorber when it's bumpy or I push down up and down, I hate that noise.
There are a number of different types of suspension shock absorbers. Less expensive ones work of springs and air compression and others have an oil lubricant. Here are some references (that may or may not apply to your type of fork):
ua-cam.com/video/_FsYV9Q03uc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=JedMTB
ua-cam.com/video/lurIojlxzGc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheLostCo.
ua-cam.com/video/eE2jG9dBObk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BikeHub
You can consult the internet for your specific fork to see what the manufacturer suggests in terms of cleaning and lubrication. Or you can take it down to your local bike store. I wish I can be more specific, but the variation in suspension forks is so great it precludes a precise solution without actually seeing the fork itself.
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
Hi Johnny
I have a intermittent clicking or clunk on my bicycle say every full revolution and it sounds like its coming from the cassette and happens only under load, say peddling on a flat or up hill, although disappear when peddling down hill. Could it be from a bad or damage on the cassette.
Finding the source to the noise can be a challenge in that the sound is not always what you think. Listen carefully to your bike. Start with some of the easier things first.
1. Make sure the back wheel is installed properly and there is no wobble in the cassette. See:
ua-cam.com/video/XdShMsbFNPg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
3.Check for wear on your shoe cleat or surface of the pedal.
4. Check the pedal - see:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
5. Could also be the bearings in the pedal. You'd need to borrow a pedal to try a different one out.
4. Then consider the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
It is possible that the bottom bracket needs to be overhauled. This is something your bike shop can help. Finally you can consider the freehub although this is not a typical freehub presentation.
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
My wife and I are new to cycling. Her new bike makes a clicking noise in the rear wheel when weight is put on the bike, but not when spinning freely. The rear wheel also has a slight wobble. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Are you sure it's from the rear wheel (can sometimes be hard to determine). The wheel should not wobble. Wonder if the wheel has a loose spoke or needs to be trued. Can not rule out loose pedals or noise from the bottom bracket. Definitely would take it back to the shop where you bought it and complain!
Why I have creaking sound when I pedal on the bottom bot pedals sounds like that I think it is because of the gear can you teach me how to fix ut
Creaking sounds can drive one crazy. Check the wear of your shoe cleats and surface of the pedals. They may arise from the pedals. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
Or the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Finally, it may be arising in the bottom bracket itself (from the bearings, cups or other sources) requiring your local bike store to have a look.
Start with the easier things first as you try to narrow down the cause. Good luck and regards, Tony
Hi! You help me please? I have an oscillating sound and i saw my chain vibrating when i use 36-11, campi zonda wheel, shimano 105 groupset, what could be the problem?
Does this occur when coasting and pedaling (or just one or the other) and in all cogs and chainrings or just certain ones?
@@tony10speed hi friend, while pedaling and everytime the crank is at 15 hours, its like a buzz, chain is not rubbing, but it oscillates like a guitar string
@@Kichologico Is the rear tire installed properly? Check that the tire is not rubbing the frame or chainstay which can give a vibrating or buzzing sound. Check that the crank is not rubbing against the rear tire with each pedal stroke or against the back of your shoe. Does the outer plate of the front derailleur clear the large chain ring by 2-3 mm and is the front derailleur aligned with the large chainring and frame (not at a slight angle either way). Place the bike on a stand and take a close look at the teeth on the front chainring as you turn the crank. Does the chain seem to jump at the 15 hour position. Is there a bent or broken tooth on the chainring at this position.
Finally consider:
You may have a loose or creaking pedal, loose chainring bolts, loose crank fixing bolt, or loose bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
and
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Do you have disc brakes? You may hear a vibrating sound if they are not properly "bedded-in." See:
cyclingtips.com/2018/03/road-disc-brake-bed-in-process-end-vibrating-noise/
This is a tough one to solve over the internet. You may have to check with your local bike shop if the above don't help. Let me know if any of the above help.
Regards and safe cycling, Tony
I have a clicking sound when I’m pedalling but only when I stand up and put a lot of force on my pedals. I feel like it is coming from where my pedals connect to the frame of the bike. Any ideas? It would be a lot of help
Sometimes bicycle noise (clicking, creaking, etc.) only occurs under load (such as standing). The clicking you mention can be hard to track down. First check for wear of your shoe cleats and pedal surfaces. Then start with the pedals themselves. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Then consider the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Let me know how you progress. Tony
I am getting loud noise from discbtakes on fatbike what can k do
Here are two videos that may help.
ua-cam.com/video/sMk-AiuyfYk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GlobalMountainBikeNetwork
and
ua-cam.com/video/i0KB7VeriNM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RJTheBikeGuy
Regards, Tony
I have a sound while pedalling its like whistling or something how fo i fix it
Try your best to pin point the sound. Is the noise directly under you (pedal or bottom bracket), from the rear (pulley wheels or derailleur), from the front (brakes, headset, bar clamp)? This is not an easy job but should be tried before any repairs.
Check your bike shoe cleats for wear. Worn cleats can make odd sounds.
Is the noise from the pedals or bottom bracket area or toward the rear where it may be the pulley wheels. I first try and put a drop of light lubricant on the area where the bearing meets the plastic of the pully wheel (just a very tiny bit on each side of each pulley wheel). See:
ua-cam.com/video/GZYcJcWiF2U/v-deo.html
Other possibilities in include the pedals themselves. Try removing and re-lubricating. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
Last possibility is the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Again, pin pointing the area of noise is a major challenge. Go slow and do the easiest things first. Regards, Tony
I dont know why my back wheel doing noises i mean its like spoke doing noise during riding or putting preasure on back wheel using weight on it and moving it idk how to fix it ?
Does this occur while just pedaling or just coasting or both? Does it occur each wheel rotation or pedal rotation? What does the noise sound like?
@@tony10speed both, and occur while pedaling and rotation while its on the rode. sound like spoke doing noise like moving or beeing too loose or somethink like that kinda metall sound
@@cliptsix A loose spoke may sometimes give a pinging sound as the wheel rotates. Check the spokes by plucking them like a guitar and listen for a low pitch signifying a loose spoke. I assume you've check the other items in #4 of the description. Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
I have very loud clicking when I pedal uphill. It feels like the bike might break
A clunking sound when the pedals are under pressure such as in a climb may indicate a pedal problem or a bottom bracket problem. Here are two videos to consider:
Pedals (more likely to give creaking then a clunk unless the bearings are worn or the pedals are loose): ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html
Bottom Bracket (more likely): ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
Also possible but less likely is a loose headset. See: ua-cam.com/video/N0Zagtnyhys/v-deo.html
Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
I need help , when i ride my bike fast and peddle really hard and fast it makes a noise and den its ver hard to peddle , it didnt happen before it start happening yesterday after i fell
Sounds like the chain jams when you are pedaling hard. You could have damaged the rear derailleur when you fell. You need your local bike shop to have a look. Not something I can fix over the internet. Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
@@tony10speed how much do u think they are going to take , how much money
@@aliastard7531 Depends on the problem.
Your bike may be suffering from "chain suck" see RJs video:
ua-cam.com/video/NklSnn7f298/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RJTheBikeGuy
The most annoying noise for me is disc rub, owing to either a bent rotor or, worse, a rotor that is not aligned perfectly with the calliper for whatever reason. Sometimes it is a sticking piston, but that is fairly easy to rectify.
Park Tools makes a nice devise for straightening disc rotors. Of course, alignment is necessary. I have a question for our viewers. In terms of maintenance, do you prefer disc brakes or rim brakes? Regards, Tony
@@tony10speed I do have that Park Tool: DT-2. It is very useful, but, even with that aid, I dislike truing rotors.
With reference to your question, I think hydraulic disc brakes offer less maintenance when they are functioning well. You can leave them alone to self-adjust, until the pads need to be replaced - then you might have to go through the rigmarole of centring the calipers again.
I actually prefer the manual adjustment on mechanical disc calipers, wherein you use an allen key or small screwdriver to move the pads closer to the rotor. It means slightly more maintenance, but is much easier to avoid disc rub. Performance-wise though, I find mechanical ones to be poor.
I had a wheelset has a clicking sounds and its loud sorry for bad english
Have you checked out our video:
ua-cam.com/video/0_qZmXNS8PQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Is the clicking while pedaling only, while coasting only, or both? Is the clicking every pedal stroke, every 3 revolutions or more? Some rear wheel freehubs are quiet when pedaling but have a load constant clicking when coasting. This is just the nature of the hub. Let me have some feedback to to the questions above. Regards, Tony
Hello sir, my bike make a clunk sound when my rear tire passes from a big bump or a big speed breaker. Can you please tell what is making that sound
Make sure the wheel is seated properly in the drop outs. Also add a tiny bit of grease to the quick release skewers and lock firmly in place. However, the sound may be coming from the head set or bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/N0Zagtnyhys/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
and
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html
These are the places to start and we'll go from here. Let me know. Regards, Tony
@@tony10speed thanks but my back tire doesn't have a quick release should I grease the bolts of the back tire and how much I should tight the crank bolts
@@guitar-ism2193 First check the headset as in the video. The bolts on the bottom bracket should be firmly tightened and not loose. You can remove the through axle, grease lightly and tighten firmly. See if any of these work in the order I mention.
@@tony10speed thank you very much sir to help. I finally found what was making that sound. Actually the chain is little loose and when any uneven road comes the chain vibrates and hits the frame rod which goes back from the crank set to the free wheel. My bicycle is a MTB and is 21 speed. Can I shorten the chain length and will shortening the chain length affect the gears or gear shifting? Can you please tell a solution for this problem.
@@guitar-ism2193 "Chain slap" (i.e. the chain hitting the chain stay) is common with mountain bikes (especially when in the smaller chainrings and smaller cassette cogs) as you bounce down the trail. I would not recommend shortening the chain unless I was able to see the bike. Here are some videos that may be of value:
ua-cam.com/video/saW9VoyDMh8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Kyle%26April-RideMTB
or
ua-cam.com/video/XIkTBuuzKOU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MTBtips
or
ua-cam.com/video/C_6-vqtVqXk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MTBLifestyle
Regards, Tony
I'm not sure if my problem is the pedal creak but when I'm pedalling (I think this only happens when I push my feet down) I hear some sort of locking noise (when you lock your door or something, not sure how to explain) from both my pedals. They seem to physically move my feet a very tiny bit when it happens. It's concerning me as it's a brand new bike I bought today. Not sure if it's because I crashed kinda hard when I was riding it as it was my first time in like 4 years because the crash also caused the chains to move away from the middle if you know what I mean (fixed thanks to my dad). Please help me out if you get my problem, thanks!
Could be a bent rear derailleur hanger as a result to the crash. See:
ua-cam.com/video/qHK6jQizIdc/v-deo.html
Also check that you didn't damage the front derailleur (if your bike has one) that the chain is not rubbing on one of the derailleur plates. See:
ua-cam.com/video/mSIK0I4TDNg/v-deo.html
Finally, it may be the bottom bracket and you may have to return to the shop where you bought it and let them have a look.
Let me know how you make out, Tony
@@tony10speed I believe it's worth mentioning that the sounds only happen like every 3-4 minutes while pedalling. No, there was so damage. It is a geared bike and I forgot that I was supposed to keep pedalling when shifting gears so I may give that a try to fix the problem. My dad says it may be either because it's a new, geared bike and to just give it some time to get 'soft' or simply because I sometimes may not keep an equal balance on both my feet while pedalling. What do you think?
@@weirdzane2212 The sound is not because it's a new bike or equal balance on both feet. These are tough problems to solve with no easy answers. Is there something different about your pedal stroke or gearing when you hear the sound? Keep listening to pin point the sound over the next few weeks and get back to me if there's anything new to report.
@@tony10speed So when the sounds happened, they sounded a lot like when you shift gears. I gave shifting gears while pedalling a go and I never really heard the sounds but that was only yesterday, I may try today to see if the sounds persist. However, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be like this but when I shift gears you're supposed to hear like a sound right? The sound I hear is like, pretty loud or I dont know it may be because my bike is pretty big.
@@weirdzane2212 If the noise persists, you may need a bike shop to index the shifting (adjust the rear derailleur) which is a relatively easy job for the bike mechanic (although a bit more difficult for you).
I get it when climbing or putting power down.
What ever is causing the noise requires more force then just seated and cycling. This is not unusual and finding the source take time and patience. First: Does this happen in both the large or small chainrings (unless the bike is a 1x, i.e., single front chainring)? Do you hear the clicking no matter which cog your in? If it's only in specific chainring or specific cogs, let me know because our approach will be different. If so (noise regardless of which chainring or which cog you're in), then start with some of the easier things first.
1. Check your cleats and pedal surfaces for wear.
2. Check your chainring(s) for wear. See:
ua-cam.com/video/sXdrOQpr-Zg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
3. Next check the pedals themselves. See:
ua-cam.com/video/xn0bokygJ9c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
It is possible that the bearings in the pedals (if you've had these pedals for years) may be shot. Do you have another set of pedals to try or can borrow?
4. If the above are not the problem, it's probably coming from the bottom bracket. See:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
It is possible that the BB needs to be overhauled. The cups may be loose or the bearings replaced. See:
ua-cam.com/video/Z8fMGvtc1mg/v-deo.html
and
ua-cam.com/video/ow-iRD_dHs8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ozcycle
Anyway, this would be my approach. You may want to take it to your local bike shop to try some new pedals or overhaul the bottom bracket. Let me know how you make out. Regards, Tony
Why does this happen to the freehub?
Dirt, over greasing during overhaul, or just wear and breakage of internal parts of the hub. Luckily, not often but annoying when it occurs. Regards, Tony
My bike makes noise only when I pedal, I have tracked the noise to be in the rear reallieur
Does the noise occur in the large or small chain ring? Does it occur in certain cogs of the cassette in association with certain chain rings? What is the nature of the noise (rubbing, grinding, clicking)?
@@tony10speed it happens mostly on middle ring and big ring, when it’s on the small ring and on the big cog on the cassette it dosent rub, but from what I saw it the chain rubs against the front derailleur cage, i tried adjusting the limiting screws but it didn’t work at all
@@tony10speed also when I’m on the smallest ring and biggest cog on the cassette it also makes noise but in the back of the bike, I just got my first mtb and it’s really frustrating
@@Itz_Akariii Take a look at these videos:
ua-cam.com/video/9fRoWMwHy7c/v-deo.html
and especially:
ua-cam.com/video/ZNG7g83lI-s/v-deo.html
If all else fails, have your local bike shop take a look. Let me know how you make out.
@@tony10speed thanks for the help 🙏🏻🙏🏻😃
My bike makes a "tak tak tak" noise. Don't know how to classify it. But I'm unable to locate the problem as well.
Is this while pedaling or coasting or both? Is in for both chainrings and all cassette cogs or just certain ones? Does it occur many times per pedal stroke or just 1 or 3 times?
@@tony10speed Occurs while pedaling. 1 to max 3 per rotation. And it occurs for both the chainring and casette .
@@k26295 Have you seen our video:
ua-cam.com/video/0_qZmXNS8PQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Maybe this will have some answers. Regards, Tony
@@tony10speed I've seen this video. But the sound doesn't exactly match. It's more of a knocking sound than a clicking one.
@@k26295 Sounds more like a bottom bracket problem. Here's another video to consider:
ua-cam.com/video/InW64uutftM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TonyMarchand
Why would worn shoes creak?
Bicycle shoes have a very firm sole to protect the metatarsal and surrounding tissues from injury. It allow spreading ot the force of the pedal across the whole underside of the foot. When they wear with the age and use of the shoe, slight flexion occurs causing creaking. It also may result in some foot pain under the metatarsal, toes or sole of the foot.
Can pedal hard creaking comes from loose spoke?
Possibly, but no in my experience. Usually you hear a "pinging" like sound. Most creaking is related to pedals and bottom brackets under load. Also from handlebar clamps that may need cleaning and some Fiber Grip. Tony
@@tony10speed thank you Tony for replying. That’s what I thought too! I even bring to the bike shop for the mechanic to have a look! They regrease the bb, took out the crank and screw the bolt to torque, grease the pedal. When press down hard on the pedal on both side there’s the creaking sound. The other mechanic try to diagnose and say when holding the rear wheel spoke, the creaking sounds gone. I have to bring it next week again to try and diagnose it as they are not free.
@@JWKEL88 You might check that the wheel skewers - are lightly lubricated before reinserting and make sure the skewers are tight. The problem still may be the bottom bracket. Some just seem to creak on some bikes due to some flex in the frame or slight deformity which develops in the BB cones. Here's an interesting solution you can suggest to your bike store mechanics:
ua-cam.com/video/ow-iRD_dHs8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ozcycle
I wish I can be of more help. Let me know how you make out. Tony
@@tony10speed thank you so much! I will update you again next week and I will suggest to the mechanic. Hopefully it can be fixed as it’s been so irritating with every pedal creaking 😞
@@JWKEL88 One last item to check: the bushings in the pedals. Are the pedal old? Can you borrow another set from the bike store and try them out to see if it's the internal bearings of the pedals?
Tony
Hi sir
My bicycle getting progressive clicking sounds while peddling only while riding
What might be the cause
It’s brand new. I took it to the shop mechanic can’t detect any problem
But still the sound is there
I can send the video of the problem if you need it
I would need to know when the clicking is occurring and how many time per pedal stroke? In which chainring (or both) and in what specific cassette cogs (or multiple cogs)? Is your bike carbon fiber?
It obviously does not click on the bike stand since the shop couldn't find any problems but only under pressure when you're out on the road. Let me know the above so I can suggest so ideas. Regards, Tony
Hi thank you for your reply.
Occurs in 2 nd chain ring mostly also feable sound in 3rd
Occurs with each pedal stroke both side
Bike is aluminum frame
@@waheebkappil3982 If you're talking about 2nd and 3rd chain ring (not cassette cog), you must have a triple front chain ring setup. Am I correct in that? If so, I'll send you some good Park Tool references on how to setup your front derailleur that hopefully will correct the problem. If you are referring to the 2nd and 3rd cog of your cassette, I still need to know it's in the big chain ring, small chain ring or both. Tony
You are right.it having a triple front chain rings.
And not identified any problem with cassette
@@waheebkappil3982 Take a look at the video from Calvin Jones of Park Tools who will show you all the ins and outs of adjusting the front derailleur:
ua-cam.com/video/ZNG7g83lI-s/v-deo.html
Regards, Tony
Very marchandized contnent
Thanks. I like to thorough but not to lengthy. Feel free to comment if your bike experience noise and I'll get back to you. Regards, Tony