MAN UNITED Are The WORST They've EVER Been! RELEGATION is a REAL Possibility!

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  • @joebrindley4570
    @joebrindley4570 18 днів тому +47

    I'm 68 years old. I've followed United since 1961! I remember the lean years, the 74 relegation and the strong comeback to get back into the league; witnessed the glory of the Sir Fergie years; the legends we had playing for us. This squad is the worst I've ever seen in United kits. They are a bunch of clowns sulking and not even able to perform basic football. I"m ashamed of them. The club is done. The only way we will ever come back is if the Glazers see there is no profit and sell the entire clown show. INEOS are only patsies for Glazers and Rat just wanted part of the club for his vanity. He kept us from sellling to Qatar who could have rebuilt the team within a year and cleared the debt. The Man United coffin is being laid into its grave and the only thing left is the dirt to cover us

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 18 днів тому +7

      Joe, this is the single best comment I have read on UTD and express my own thoughts precisely. Cheers 🍻

    • @charliecampbell197
      @charliecampbell197 18 днів тому

      Relegation did not bury us last time.
      But it may be the cleansing agent we need to get rid of these instagram pansies.

    • @MrGts92
      @MrGts92 18 днів тому +2

      Yeah cool story bro. Cry about Qatar on top. 😂😂😂

    • @BrianPeterSimpson
      @BrianPeterSimpson 18 днів тому +3

      Totally agree I'm 74 never seen such a shambles the Glazer's have ruined this great club.
      And Ineos have jumped in bed with them I wanted a total sale.
      These players are still from Marineo and Oli rubbish poor ETH and now Amerin.
      Bruno is not fit to be a captain had no left back since the start of last season.
      So why did they Regulon back home crazy Ineos are a disgrace

    • @skanderkroumi865
      @skanderkroumi865 18 днів тому +4

      The only solution we have is to get relegated that will force ineos and the to sell the club new owners clear the debt terminate these players contracts build new team renovate old

  • @malcolm1170
    @malcolm1170 18 днів тому +20

    We have a GK that cannot command his box, a captain with poor leadership skills and we think we are going to get us back to the top. Ruben I believe will get us back but as ralf said major surgery is needed. Mainoo cannot play in this system, Bruno I am sad to say is not good enough, and Onana is worse then DDG.

  • @brahambarnett5901
    @brahambarnett5901 18 днів тому +26

    Im not convinced Ineos will back Amorin in the long term. The Rat wasted no time in sacking Ashworth when he realised it wasn't working. Amorim hasn't got years, he's got months. He could be gone by the end of the season

    • @ari55a
      @ari55a 18 днів тому

      Need to go back to 433 counter attacking moments. Ran out of money to build new team in Amorim system. We are a cup team and just battle out for Europa spot

    • @lifeinlife24
      @lifeinlife24 18 днів тому +1

      AMORIM OUT!!!

    • @MySpike64
      @MySpike64 18 днів тому +2

      Stop employing European managers just because everyone else does. Our best years were under no nonsense Scottish bosses. I know that everyone will say the game has changed, but surely we've tried enough overseas managers to see that it isn't working.

    • @davidellinsworth3299
      @davidellinsworth3299 18 днів тому +2

      ​@@MySpike64nothing to do with them being from overseas. It's got nothing to do with the managers whatsoever.

    • @MySpike64
      @MySpike64 18 днів тому

      @davidellinsworth3299 so all of the clubs that were once struggling and have now turned things around ; this has nothing to do with the managers they have signed?

  • @Mattyattitude51
    @Mattyattitude51 18 днів тому +30

    If you buy average players and stick with average players you will be average its simple🤷‍♂️

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому +3

      ETH didn't even buy average players. Most of the £616m was spent on below par players. I am convinced he was trying to sink the club on purpose.

    • @MrGts92
      @MrGts92 18 днів тому

      ​@@almac9203managers doesn't buy players. Managers have zero control over money and wages. Even with players it's part of a veto system. Funny how people still don't know that 😂😂😂

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому +1

      @@MrGts92 total BS. Managers shouldn't be in charge of transfers but ETH was in charge. He identified the targets and directed the CEO to bring him the players. He was aware of the budget and was involved in choosing how the limited budget was spent. ETH also had a veto written into his contract and had to approve every single transfer. Manchester United is a dysfunctional club and ETH was unfortunately given way too much power and he wasted that money. Since Ineos has arrived they have implemented a proper management structure but prior to that ETH was pretty much given control over transfers and Arnold and Murtaugh let him run the football operation because they were clueless.

    • @MrGts92
      @MrGts92 18 днів тому

      @almac9203 total bs, from another clueless fan. ETH just had veto just like the others did, and Judge et al used a lot to dismiss targets. And ultimately they controlled the money spent. It doesn't matter if ETH 'knew the budget', he doesn't control the money spent or wages. If your kid convinces you to spend money on a toy that turns out to be rubbish, YOU are still to blame for spending the money since YOU control the finances. This is the case with Judge and Glazers. All managers want their players, but they don't control how much is spent.
      Put it this way, if Judge was a better negotiator and spent £200m on the same players, are you honestly giving ETH a pat on the head for spending less than rivals? 😂😂😂

    • @colinmarshall3842
      @colinmarshall3842 16 днів тому

      ​@almac9203 When these players were first signed, most United fans were happy with the purchases 🤷.
      Just look at the predictions at the beginning of the season and you'll see how many fans thought a top 4 finish was nailed on 🤷

  • @markmaloney4949
    @markmaloney4949 18 днів тому +16

    I can easily see this team finishing bottom 5 now. Not at all unrealistic to see us battling with Van Nistelrooy to avoid the last relegation place this season.

    • @THEremiXFACTOR
      @THEremiXFACTOR 17 днів тому +2

      Oh my god, I can see it coming. It'll be Ruud Vs Amorin and Ruud will win. More humiliation.

  • @jaysenjohn304
    @jaysenjohn304 17 днів тому +6

    If United get relegated. It would be a good opportunity to get rid of the Glazers.

    • @Standard_Jay
      @Standard_Jay 17 днів тому +1

      The club would literally go bankrupt as they would be unable to service it's debt

  • @JohnD-qn6st
    @JohnD-qn6st 18 днів тому +12

    This team deserves to go down ! They don’t have the mental or physical strength to survive a relegation fight

    • @hobnoblegend6646
      @hobnoblegend6646 17 днів тому +1

      I can almost guarantee you they won’t have the fight to play in the Championship, either. Everyone who comes to United seem to down tools

  • @TheGoodLad89
    @TheGoodLad89 18 днів тому +3

    Ugarte sub was a but surprising but realistically, the ref was that card happy, Amorim was likely trying to avoid a second red card, at 1 nil.

  • @patricknondo5130
    @patricknondo5130 18 днів тому +30

    Ten hags fault, he bought most of those players

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому +2

      Exactly. I can't believe some people are trying to say it isn't his fault because the players suck which ignores the fact he brought in these players for £616m!

    • @Rico-yp5zx
      @Rico-yp5zx 18 днів тому +4

      Utd have been bad for years. This is just the crescendo.

    • @fromthestretfordend7110
      @fromthestretfordend7110 18 днів тому +1

      So let’s pretend all of his signings are bad and we are in this position because of them. Martinez Ugarte Hojlund Mazraoui De Ligt all play every week when they are available. Should we get rid of them too? Are they the problem? Without them would be in a better place?

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому

      @@fromthestretfordend7110 £616m was spent by ETH. His transfers were horrendous.

    • @MrGts92
      @MrGts92 18 днів тому +3

      Managers don't spend money at Utd.😂

  • @satjinder
    @satjinder 18 днів тому +15

    I was at the match Adam and we didn’t look like scoring. More worryingly we didn’t show any fight. We are in relegation form because we concede stupid goals, don’t create chances and therefore don’t score goals. I really don’t know where Amorim goes for here

    • @ForeverUnitedTV
      @ForeverUnitedTV  18 днів тому +5

      awful mate - safe travels

    • @barryreeve6105
      @barryreeve6105 18 днів тому +3

      ​@@ForeverUnitedTV You said Amorim would be our saviour. Clearly no matter who manages united can't save this team you banged on about removing ten hag. You should of been talking players not manager.

    • @jaydalypt2706
      @jaydalypt2706 18 днів тому +3

      As I said on the show. We got beaten by a team of athletes two games running.

    • @jaydalypt2706
      @jaydalypt2706 18 днів тому +1

      Thanks for your honest and concise analysis.

  • @philhoole5026
    @philhoole5026 18 днів тому +13

    For the longest time it seemed like a striker was first priority. It's to the point now where I haven't got a clue what the priority is. There are so many holes to fill and no money. I watched football when United were too good to go down in 73' and the same with Forest side in the 80's. Both of these sides were better than what we have now. I worry for Amorim in trying to rebuild this team. Only wins will buy him time but who can we beat???

    • @jakebudden6704
      @jakebudden6704 18 днів тому

      Left footed player - Robinson from Fulham
      Attacking player good on the ball - Cunha
      Goalscoring striker - Gyorkeres or Oshimen or if not Mbeumo

    • @philhoole5026
      @philhoole5026 18 днів тому +2

      @jakebudden6704 that's all dependent on selling players. That's another worry! Who is crazy enough to buy any of these players from us?

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому

      ​@@jakebudden6704why didn't ETH address those issues with the £616m he spent?

    • @modernista6056
      @modernista6056 17 днів тому

      ​@@jakebudden6704so you think you're spending 200m in January?🤡🤣 Wolves ain't selling cuhna, they're fighting relegation, so that's 80m minimum, Fulham lad another 50, yeah dream on. Why would any of those players want to join a sinking ship? People throw out stupid unrealistic names like it's so simple, not happening, GET REAL 🤡🤣

  • @jonathangault3335
    @jonathangault3335 18 днів тому +10

    100% ITS THE PLAYERS

  • @philiprobinson9015
    @philiprobinson9015 18 днів тому +11

    Yes Adam. This is the worst United team in my lifetime. I remember the last time we got relegated. This feels the same. I'm off to the bookies and put a bet on it tomorrow. Very, very depressing

    • @gray100
      @gray100 18 днів тому

      So you're gonna cash in on our demise?!?! 😳🤪🤣

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 18 днів тому +1

      ​@gray100 Might aswell get something out of it. It's hardly going to effect what happens on the pitch.

    • @gray100
      @gray100 18 днів тому

      @cameronjones8641 shocking responce. Happy as long as you gain from it! Despicable "fan".

    • @hobnoblegend6646
      @hobnoblegend6646 17 днів тому

      And I doubt you’d get cracking odds on them coming back up 😂

  • @DirectorOfFootball
    @DirectorOfFootball 18 днів тому +6

    Amorim has learnt a lesson that most Bruno fans have refused to believe or are unable to comprehend.
    Both Ralf and later in his reign also ETH knew, that when united faced a team that is well organised and possess a highly technical midfield, Bruno needed to be moved out of the midfield and placed somewhere he could cope and do less damage. The two above managers usually picked RW or false nine.
    Amorim has now learnt this valuable lesson and if he wishes to persist with Bruno or his clause won’t allow him to be benched, must address.
    The issue Amorim has is unlike other formations, there’s no wing position to hide Bruno in such situations and taking off the Striker to play literally 3 CAM’s plus a double pivot would be insane.
    So the question for Amorim will be:
    When facing a team that is well organised and possess a highly technical midfield.. Where do you play Bruno ???

  • @kerimfuad3319
    @kerimfuad3319 17 днів тому +2

    A manager who won’t budge and plays 3 at the back regardless is not a top manager

  • @Standard_Jay
    @Standard_Jay 18 днів тому +16

    Ten Hag and INEOS have set any recovery back years. The more I think about it from a business perspective I cant understand why INEOS came in as all I see are huge liabilities both on and off the pitch. Won't be long until they come under protest.

    • @Thebean2022
      @Thebean2022 18 днів тому

      It’s gotten worse since ten hag has left ffs. Ten hag is clearly not the problem.

    • @dreddykrugernew
      @dreddykrugernew 18 днів тому +1

      Ill enlighten you as to why Ineos makes no sense, Ineos are coming in to buy the club supposedly, so why would they want to make it a success if that ultimately means they would pay more for it. Its like you buying a house that needs renovating and instead of buying the house and doing the renovating yourself you renovate it first so the seller can charge you more money for a house that youve paid to renovate.

    • @goodraking730
      @goodraking730 18 днів тому

      @@dreddykrugernewthey aren’t keeping United if they get relegated. Someone else will buy it

    • @thesaint5619
      @thesaint5619 18 днів тому

      Ineos fraud​@@dreddykrugernew

    • @ari55a
      @ari55a 18 днів тому +1

      Glazers would rather see the fans burn the club to the ground than sell before new super league is sorted out. Won’t have new ownership until glazers on death bed.

  • @nialloneill5097
    @nialloneill5097 18 днів тому +4

    A relegation battle has been coming for some time...I noted some yrs ago when you took the moments away from the team...we were a team positioned between 13th and 18th...and now the moments are not happening, we see the scale of the job. If they don't sign him at least 3 good players, and if Amorim does not tweak his tactics...we will be in a relegation fight

  • @GarethHaynes-nu2lu
    @GarethHaynes-nu2lu 17 днів тому +3

    Why are United fans protesting about ticket prices by buying tickets to the Liverpool game and then protesting?

  • @Lucky-to7ly
    @Lucky-to7ly 18 днів тому +7

    Massive respect to those who can still stomache watching this garbage i turned telly over once bruno got sent off. Honestly dont see man utd ever being a power house for atleast another decade. Too much crap to sort out. Was good while it lasted.

  • @rossoconnor1769
    @rossoconnor1769 17 днів тому +3

    Recruitment is the issue. Clearing the squad is essential

  • @chrisloynes7796
    @chrisloynes7796 18 днів тому +8

    Jay you’re right to start with the Captain ! I have 11 out including him ! Antony, Malacia, Mount, Shaw, Zirkzee, Casimero, Onana, Rashford, Erikson, Fernandes, Garnacho.
    We sign…. Olmo, Osimen, Edersen, Raphina and 3/4 development players.

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому

      It is disturbing that 7 of the players you want removed were ETH signings. ETH was like a double agent trying to ruin the club. Ralphina whom you want was actually scouted by the club 3 years ago but ETH insisted we get Antony instead!

    • @jonwilliams3664
      @jonwilliams3664 18 днів тому

      Hojlund? Dire

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому

      @@jonwilliams3664 I don't think anyone called Hojlund dire however he was another poor ETH transfer. He cost £65m excluding add-ons for a guy that scored 9 goals in Serie A. At the time I recommend Matteo Retegui and Santiago Gimernez for a combined fee of under £30m. Matteo Retegui has scored 12 league goals in 17 games this season plus 2 UCL goals playing for Hojlund's old Italian club. Santiago Gimernez is a 20 goal season striker. Santiago Gimernez had a release clause of just £16m and Matteo Retegui was sold for £11m. I could also name alternatives to Mason Mount and other trash ETH signings. The only success story from the £616m ETH spent was Mazoroui. ETH also forced the club to sell Alvaro Fernandez and Kovar. Onana and Bayindar together cost nearly £60m and both are probably worse than Kovar who was earning £7k per week.

  • @hobnoblegend6646
    @hobnoblegend6646 17 днів тому +1

    The mental thing is, if these tarts go down can you honestly see them being able to hack it in the championship? That league’s brutal, Bruno would never be off the floor.

  • @keithhancox2420
    @keithhancox2420 17 днів тому +2

    What are you talking about mate? it was LITERALLY YOUR VERY LAST match vlog that you suggested this team could get in the top 4.
    What's happened?

  • @mmsmith1525
    @mmsmith1525 18 днів тому +10

    I'll never forget what Bruno did on March 5th, 2023 when he asked deluded ETH to take him off when Liverpool was 6nil up. This Bruno guy is a curse to the club and i can't see how someone can even rate him as a player.

    • @fromthestretfordend7110
      @fromthestretfordend7110 18 днів тому +2

      Just because Gary Neville said that Bruno wanted to be subbed off doesn’t mean that’s a fact.

    • @yourethra
      @yourethra 18 днів тому

      Lies

    • @lyndaryder1410
      @lyndaryder1410 17 днів тому

      He NEVER asked to be taken off never!

  • @Kenny-f3p
    @Kenny-f3p 18 днів тому +6

    We don't have the fight in us for a relegation battle,,teams below us fancy there chances and have been down this road before,,we are going down

  • @alanbrooks7195
    @alanbrooks7195 18 днів тому +3

    Your goalie is causing you to loose games…he’s not saving important shots..when the games in the balance …start from the back and work forward .onnana first to go..everyone who has a ounce of football knowledge knows the keeper apart from a centre forward that scores is the second most important position .

  • @craigomc1
    @craigomc1 18 днів тому +3

    We haven’t won back to back games all season! Absolutely appalling mason mount hasn’t completed 90 minutes in 3 years wtf are we

    • @modernista6056
      @modernista6056 17 днів тому

      Shite , does that answer the question? You're absolutely shite and years away from being seriously involved in title chases, LEVELS behind the top 4, night and day difference in quality, not 1 utd player gets anywhere near the team at any of the regular top clubs, NONE, that is ushited problem, no players would get a game for current top 3, that after all the money spent is embarrassing 😂

  • @heyo21345
    @heyo21345 17 днів тому +2

    WE HAVE 2 MIDFIELDERS WITH NO LEGS ON +300K P/W

  • @TheGoodLad89
    @TheGoodLad89 18 днів тому +2

    Honestly, no fan ever wants to see their Club in a relegation battle but if it was a guarantee to get rid of the Glazers and clear the Deadwood once and for all, I'd feckin dance to the Championship, with a bottle of Champagne. Maybe scorched earth, is what this Club seriously needs.

  • @Gr8VngnzN4esAngr
    @Gr8VngnzN4esAngr 17 днів тому +2

    Amad can talk to other clubs for a free transfer in a few days. His agent will be negotiating double what Utd are offering right now.

  • @Sterayb
    @Sterayb 18 днів тому +2

    Keepers who play in Italy are always weak the Italian league don't pressure the keepers like we do in English football

  • @johndirom8999
    @johndirom8999 17 днів тому +1

    Marcin Bulka of OGC Nice (Ineos own this team). 6' 6" giant of a keeper; Polish international; commanding; good hands, great shot stopper; not too bad with his feet; gets down well to low shots; decent at penalties. Would cost £20MILLION. I would have him in this team toot sweet.

  • @barbarahollingworth3744
    @barbarahollingworth3744 18 днів тому +10

    I lived through relegation in the 70s but times were different then. Now it is all about money but R A inherited these players .
    We cannot give up Adam and changing managers is not the answer. I will always be a Red in good times and bad

    • @ep9421
      @ep9421 18 днів тому

      Slot inherited his full squad from Klopp,
      So what's the problem

    • @TopGun-y4p
      @TopGun-y4p 18 днів тому +6

      ​@@ep9421Liverpools squad is complete. that is why they're challenging. Slot had it easy. Don't compare that to this below average squad that Rubin has inherited

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому

      ​@@TopGun-y4pyeah but ETH spent £616m which is probably twice as much as Liverpool spent.

    • @willlloyd9480
      @willlloyd9480 18 днів тому

      Van nistelrooy was getting a tune out of them

    • @gray100
      @gray100 18 днів тому +1

      💯 mate! 👍✌️ @@TopGun-y4p

  • @kymsheba
    @kymsheba 18 днів тому +12

    i told you all at end of last season that if we started this season with Erik Ten Hag still in charge still that we would be fighting relegation and you all laughed at me well not so funny now is it, i have been proven right again and you all just now realizing this now.

    • @DJOkocha
      @DJOkocha 18 днів тому +2

      Should have fired ten h after cup final and got Ruben in before pre season to spend the 200 m that ten h got and then Ruben would have had summer to get them playing his way

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 18 днів тому +1

      ​@@DJOkochahindsight is a wonderful thing but the fanbase wanted ETH to not only stay but be given a contract extension. Just thinking about the £616m he spent makes me angry. ETH was like a double agent trying to ruin this club.

    • @JamesMIrby
      @JamesMIrby 18 днів тому

      Unfortunately they are all slow learners.

    • @gray100
      @gray100 18 днів тому +1

      Yeah well goldfish had nearly 2m followers convinced he should stay. You think itd weren't aware of that support for 10H?

    • @hpol3603
      @hpol3603 18 днів тому

      Same… 🤦‍♂️

  • @sisulart
    @sisulart 18 днів тому +2

    The players already look to me like they've given up, gone in the head. Wolves are relegation contenders but they completely outplayed us, up next in the PL we have Newcastle and Liverpool. Then Arsenal in the FA Cup. This could get a lot, lot worse.

  • @PIanetAstro
    @PIanetAstro 17 днів тому +1

    Ten hag should have been given the season. Amorim should have been brought in the summer with a window and a pre season. Expecting him to turn it around with a new system mid season was never gonna work. These players are poor but they are definitely better than what theyre showing in this new system. Even Mazroui is going backwards

  • @ColinnClarke1303
    @ColinnClarke1303 18 днів тому +3

    I've had enough. It may take relegation to get rid of both Ineos and the Glazers. I hope it happens. I'm tired of these over paid puppets milking this club along with these owners who live only for the money. Clear them all out. Rebuild the club and like the phoenix we could rise from the ashes. These players don't have the bottle

    • @ColinnClarke1303
      @ColinnClarke1303 18 днів тому +1

      Let me stress I have been through relegation with United before and those players cared more than these wasters do. But I am not blaming Ten Hag, this is squarely on the shoulders of the Glazers and their poor running of the club from top to bottom.

  • @stevekent3991
    @stevekent3991 18 днів тому +2

    Adam, why would you think Man United would make top four this season under Ruben? Ruben made it clear after a couple of games there would be a storm. Fan expectation is OTT.

  • @therealjoeyfishcake
    @therealjoeyfishcake 18 днів тому +9

    We where never beating wolves today

  • @goonerrooney4809
    @goonerrooney4809 18 днів тому +4

    In my opinion ten hagg is a better manager then amorim, made the best of the players and was trying to build a future with young signings, slot was invested into ten hagg, should have kept him , 3 at the back does not work , amorim shud play 4at the back until he gets the players he wants and who can play in that system,poor management from amorim, seems like he wants the sack, as he wants to move back to Portugal, the weather is to much much for him to take 😂,

    • @Time4utube
      @Time4utube 17 днів тому +1

      Almiron made them worse their bad enough already

  • @lloydbligh5601
    @lloydbligh5601 18 днів тому +4

    You can’t talk about getting rid of all the players then expect the team to have a positive mind set. Wait till the transfer window begins before talking about it. The fan base has to take most of the blame for these rumours about players leaving.

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 18 днів тому +1

      I have not seen one fan kick a ball or give a team talk. Apparently it's their fault though😂😂😂. Are you just being silly for fun?

    • @lloydbligh5601
      @lloydbligh5601 18 днів тому

      @ . Search within your self for the truth.

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 17 днів тому

      @lloydbligh5601 OK Confucius, calm down the trite proverbs, eh? I don't need to search in myself. Every club is similar and fans all over the world show emotion in various levels. It's why we pay the money and invest our time. Some clubs have higher expectations, be they right or wrong and within those expectations is revealed their passion and anger at times. Is a discussion on youtube gonna make Rashford train harder? If you are the second highest paid squad in England and one of the top 5 in Europe, that comes with a certain level of expectation. That's a fact whether you like it or not.

    • @joshuaking4483
      @joshuaking4483 17 днів тому

      Your the reason the clubs like this tbf delusional takes toxic to the core ​@lloydbligh5601

  • @rebel1052k
    @rebel1052k 17 днів тому +1

    To all my fellow United fans, look after your mental health as much as you can. I admit I let the team get the better of me at times but if you need a break, go for a walk, a run, anything just to let off some steam. We will pull through, one day. All the best guys, we're in this together, let's try not to turn on each other. UTFR.

  • @Wobb71
    @Wobb71 18 днів тому +4

    If we carry on like this we will finish the season with 44 points

    • @DuderinoDeux
      @DuderinoDeux 18 днів тому +1

      36 will suffice for safety, maybe 32 if City go down

  • @MasterF3
    @MasterF3 18 днів тому +3

    The next 3 games are Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal. Do you think Amorim is in trouble if we lose all 3?
    I don't get the point of bringing him in if he doesn't get a transfer window and a preseason.

    • @davidellinsworth3299
      @davidellinsworth3299 18 днів тому +1

      His job won't be in trouble..... that would be utterly ridiculous

  • @edwardreid1967
    @edwardreid1967 18 днів тому +2

    Amorim took Ugarte off not cuz scared of red card . He took him off so other players could play together for practice cuz he knew Ugarte was out for Newcastle , that’s why

  • @spencerhealy6059
    @spencerhealy6059 18 днів тому +2

    Ten haag spent £630m for mediocre players. And you probably need 6-8 more players to get in the top half.

  • @jet125
    @jet125 18 днів тому +5

    Dalot only passes
    Backwards

  • @scotttelford9023
    @scotttelford9023 16 днів тому +1

    Dude wtf, how can you trash talk your own team like that? Yeah they’re not very good right now but come on. Real fans watch their lads through the good and the bad.

  • @johnrider5701
    @johnrider5701 18 днів тому +2

    United are beyond saving.

  • @stevekent3991
    @stevekent3991 18 днів тому +2

    What’s wrong with being in a relegation fight? It’s not the end of the world. At least in the Championship we might be be able to score some goals and be entertained.

  • @eamonnbarrett7995
    @eamonnbarrett7995 18 днів тому +18

    I haven't felt this down since, 2005, when we had miller, kleiberson, dejmba jemba, we were so lucky to have the greatest manager ever there at that time.

    • @jaydalypt2706
      @jaydalypt2706 18 днів тому +5

      I would agree with that statement. Fergie went on with "no value in the market BS" subsequently backed the Glazers

    • @eamonnbarrett7995
      @eamonnbarrett7995 18 днів тому +3

      @@jaydalypt2706 Absolutely, his biggest mistake, over horses of all things not football.

    • @therealjoeyfishcake
      @therealjoeyfishcake 18 днів тому +3

      They would prob get in this team now. So so bad 🤦‍♂️

    • @chriscooper2060
      @chriscooper2060 18 днів тому +1

      Sure we won the league that season aswell

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 18 днів тому

      @@jaydalypt2706 They wouldn't spend, then wouldn't spend on the right players...but prepared to spend too much on crap...now we are paying for these yrs of insanity and mediocrity...incited by Glazeromics and their greed and indolence, and incompetence and arrogance

  • @abdulrahmanfarid7141
    @abdulrahmanfarid7141 17 днів тому +2

    Get rid of Bruno MU should be fine.He is more of a freestyle midfielder than a team player.

  • @JLK8
    @JLK8 18 днів тому +22

    These players are incapable of playing football mate… Ralf said it years ago “open heart surgery”

    • @straightgarb
      @straightgarb 18 днів тому +4

      Agreed.. the only positive is that the team played better without Bruno, and with 10 men.

    • @icam6726
      @icam6726 18 днів тому +2

      To think I got ridiculed for saying at start of the season that we would be lucky to finish in top half of the table... most of these players are simply not good enough!!

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 18 днів тому

      Heart Transplant now...urgently needed...for the heart has almost given up

    • @fromthestretfordend7110
      @fromthestretfordend7110 18 днів тому +1

      Many players left and came in since Ralf. Without new owners there won’t be any big changes in a positive way.

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 18 днів тому +2

      @@fromthestretfordend7110 It's true...we are rotting from the head...

  • @Exostars77-A
    @Exostars77-A 17 днів тому +1

    Lose to Newcastle and Liverpool, and then “yes” United go into a relegation 6-pointer with Southampton in mid-January. Then United face Brighton and Fulham. Hmm… a lot can change. But on current form United you wouldn’t back United against either Brighton or Fulham.

  • @BrianPeterSimpson
    @BrianPeterSimpson 18 днів тому +1

    We can't play out because we haven't had a left wing back since 2023 early season when Shaw got injured in the wolves game early season.
    Regulon got sent back why is beyond me.
    And stil haven't got one and that's down to Ineos they as much to blame as the Glazer's.
    We need a full sale to get this sorted out.

  • @gooch2006
    @gooch2006 18 днів тому

    Great to see big J!
    Will be tuning in to this channel from now on!

  • @gooch2006
    @gooch2006 18 днів тому +2

    22 points. 5 ahead of Everton with Liverpool
    , Arsenal up next. Utd really are in a relegation battle..

  • @ItsmeSasuke-o7c
    @ItsmeSasuke-o7c 18 днів тому +3

    Relegation will be glorious. Adam still thinks top 4 is possible.

  • @WelshRed1977
    @WelshRed1977 18 днів тому +5

    If we don’t dramatically improve we will find It hard to get any decent players to come to this club.

    • @jaydalypt2706
      @jaydalypt2706 18 днів тому +2

      Excellent point. Difficult to sell a rebuild to top class players.

    • @WelshRed1977
      @WelshRed1977 18 днів тому +3

      @@jaydalypt2706at this present moment in time I do really fear for this club,years and years of poor structure is finally beginning to take its toll.

    • @JamesMIrby
      @JamesMIrby 18 днів тому

      Oh they will come don't you worry 1 bit about that. Show them the £s and they will come.

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 18 днів тому

      That time has passed. We are in our death spiral.

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 18 днів тому

      ​@JamesMIrby We don't have any and we are at our FFP limit. Don't kid yourself that we still have financial power.

  • @edwardreid1967
    @edwardreid1967 18 днів тому +2

    We have to sell Bruno in Jan and get a proper playmaker in . He simply doesn’t ever control games plus Ugarte is the obvious choice for captain

  • @merasmussen82
    @merasmussen82 18 днів тому +1

    You read out a superchat after the Bournemouth game, a guy saying we'd be in a relegation fight - you dismissed it out of hand.

  • @DeeDeeDanone
    @DeeDeeDanone 18 днів тому +9

    A minimum of 4 top class players must arrive in January and hit the ground running.

    • @diddlysquat88
      @diddlysquat88 18 днів тому +7

      That's 200+ million, never gonna happen mate

    • @nevillewhite5559
      @nevillewhite5559 18 днів тому +1

      Will be great to see anyone running ☹️

    • @ItsmeSasuke-o7c
      @ItsmeSasuke-o7c 18 днів тому +3

      That like giving gourmet steak to a pack of pigs.

    • @jaydalypt2706
      @jaydalypt2706 18 днів тому

      I can see us signing two players in January and selling two

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 18 днів тому +2

      Absolutely...a time for courage in the window...sell and buy...and then on the pitch...Amor Time

  • @edwardreid1967
    @edwardreid1967 18 днів тому +2

    No way cunha will come to UTD why lower his standards ?

  • @eddieseow8347
    @eddieseow8347 18 днів тому +2

    WE MUST SURVIVE RELEGATION

  • @keithrigby2645
    @keithrigby2645 17 днів тому +2

    We have a better goalie on loan than Onana. He's worse than Barthez was and that was dogshit

    • @stevecockneyamass
      @stevecockneyamass 15 днів тому +1

      Yeah our goalie on loan is Ely Harrissin brilliant 👏

  • @andrewjohnson8003
    @andrewjohnson8003 18 днів тому +2

    Give some youth players a chance. As soon as Antony come on I knew we were in trouble. Not just him Bruno , dalot , onana . Not relegation but desperate situation

    • @stevecockneyamass
      @stevecockneyamass 15 днів тому +2

      Totally agree bring on the youth Harry Amass is as good as a fit Luke Shaw plus we have so much class in our youth 👏

  • @MySpike64
    @MySpike64 18 днів тому +1

    I was looking at the all time top scorers for Utd, and one thing becomes obvious . Only two of our recent squad are within the top 90; Rashford and Fernandez. Rashford the only one in the top twenty, and that's only because of the number of games he's played.
    I think that we need to buy another goal keeper in the window as Onana needs to be sent a message. In my opinion the only thing that could have turned this team around is a bully of a manager. A manager that would get stuck into the layabouts and and sort out the problems. A great tactical manager is all good, but tactics are no use if the players couldn't care less.

  • @michaelwatson7223
    @michaelwatson7223 18 днів тому +2

    We have no goal scorer, so already up against it

  • @Abrarronga5
    @Abrarronga5 18 днів тому +19

    He was saying with Chest out that AMORIM will make united finish top four 😂😂

  • @5amH45lam
    @5amH45lam 18 днів тому +3

    It's not the fault of the manager. It's not even the fault of the players, really. The players are just not up to it. But they didn't recruit themselves.
    It's the management - the ownership. Although the issues manifest as poor football - because that's the end product - the quality of football is just a symptom of a way bigger problem.
    Ancelotti wouldn't fare any better at United with this current set-up. Amorim, if anything, is the least culpable person involved.

    • @DJOkocha
      @DJOkocha 18 днів тому

      Good point and the squad in general is a product of a decade of bankers running the football and transfer business side of the club but basically the club died in 05 as we know it when those corporate Yankee monkeys took over

  • @agilanpillay2930
    @agilanpillay2930 17 днів тому +1

    The question is who do you keep and not who do you sell. Stop over rating players. Mainoo can't even last a full game. Good players have 30 good games and 8 okay games in a season not the other wsy round.

  • @stevebrice2279
    @stevebrice2279 17 днів тому +1

    If they get relegated don’t think for one minute they will bounce out of that. They will be stuck there for a long time.

  • @Djsonley
    @Djsonley 17 днів тому +1

    The Premier League screwed us by allowing the Glazer's to put us "legally" into debt and are now destroying our club actively by putting breaks on our spending due to the same debt they allowed.

    • @modernista6056
      @modernista6056 17 днів тому

      Spending isn't limited by the debt it's limited by revenue, income. Debt has nothing to do with the limits it's a percentage of the revenue generated and that percentage includes wages, if anything is blocking spending its the wages, utd can still spend more than almost anyone else though so stop blaming outside sources, rules are same for everyone. Utd have 3/4 players who earn more than Salah who earns way more than everyone else at Liverpool, deserved. Utd problem is wages

  • @Leafy53
    @Leafy53 18 днів тому +3

    Never thought I would say this but we need to do a Chelsea. This team needs pulled apart, no one should feel safe at this club. If you cant make an impact in 2 yrs, your out the door!! simple, this club was built on standards and as a fan from 8yrs old (34yrs) we should not forget that. The only players who are safe for another 2 years are Amad, Masaroui, Deligt, Ugarte, Yoro, Hojlund. The rest are done and need moved on. Bring in the youngsters, at least they play for the badge.
    Taking my 10 yr. old son over in March to his first game at Old Trafford (Arsenal) and now I'm dreading taking him to watch that crap!!

    • @JoseEaglesky
      @JoseEaglesky 17 днів тому +3

      Agree with you on the players that should stay..!

  • @garydunning9363
    @garydunning9363 18 днів тому +2

    Everyone has to get behind this manager please.

    • @trevorcross7703
      @trevorcross7703 17 днів тому

      He picks the team sohe is to blame as well as the players.

  • @merasmussen82
    @merasmussen82 18 днів тому +2

    I called it about Yoro. Another terrible signing. Covered in tattoos, flash Harry, on loads of money - achieved absolutely nothing in the game yet no motivation to press on. Too much, too soon.

    • @modernista6056
      @modernista6056 17 днів тому +2

      It's why the sensible clubs backed away from buying him, Liverpool, Madrid, PSG all thought he was overpriced and none would Go near his wage demands, he gets more PW than every Liverpool defender bar Van Dijk and Robertson who are senior international players, utd got him because they overpaid and are giving him stupid wages for a kid, hyped up by club and fans as oh he chose us over everyone else 😂, yeah because utd did the utd things, overpaid and gave him stupid wages , you have bought a dud. Trust me he isn't a 50m player certainly not now, maybe 3/4 years he might be but it's a lot of money to spend on potential when the team needs proven quality. 18/19 and they gave him 140k PW which Increases every year of his contract, all to win the transfer trophy 😂😂

  • @ForeverUnitedTV
    @ForeverUnitedTV  18 днів тому +1

    Please join us tomorrow at 9am on Football Talks for more LIVE discussion youtube.com/@football-talksyt?si=n22LdR5zLfwrgeBC

  • @MikeD-r2c
    @MikeD-r2c 18 днів тому +7

    Watching United for nearly 70 yrs it’s the worse team I can ever remember at United they overpaid and players like Bruno are brain dead if only the Arabs had bought us things would have been different bring in the academy players Amad is and Masarui Ugarte the rest are rubbish

    • @stevecockneyamass
      @stevecockneyamass 15 днів тому +1

      Academy players YES DEFO better players the future and cost us nothing also some real class

  • @stevenholmes9864
    @stevenholmes9864 18 днів тому +2

    Adam we HAVE A UN DISCIPLINED CAPTAIN AND PLAYERS WHO ARE SCARED TO PLAY ..WE ARE IN RELIGATION BATTLE. THESE PLAYERS ARE WEAK BEYOND BELIEF...

  • @Rob-nk2wm
    @Rob-nk2wm 18 днів тому +1

    Never felt so deflated about my team. I joked that 200/1 to get relegated wasn’t an option but week by week it’s looking a likely bet

  • @esclad
    @esclad 18 днів тому +1

    I don't blame Amorim for this but can I ask a serious question:- How is it possible that a player who has apparently loved and played the game since being a child; be so bad and fail at the basics so often? Of course every sportsman makes the odd mistake every now-and-then but these players are proving week-in week-out that they have no instinct for the game. Schoolboy, dumb, low IQ mistakes that they've shown they can't even learn from!! That tells me these 'players' are/were mere athletes who've been hired to play football because of the money involved. It's the only logical explanation. Any other employee would be sacked for not doing their job properly.

  • @Ykezha
    @Ykezha 18 днів тому +2

    Need to get these players to stop shooting from stupid o'clock

  • @Cornish_Maid
    @Cornish_Maid 18 днів тому +1

    So much for wanting Eric sacked, 8th would look quite good right now

  • @tonybroadfoot8947
    @tonybroadfoot8947 17 днів тому +1

    I hope that the UTD player contracts have the provision for salaries are slashed if relegation occurs

  • @mdavh2582
    @mdavh2582 17 днів тому +1

    4 sales (based on who we could actually get more for....
    Zirkzee (£35M), Garnacho (£50M +/- £10M), Rashford (£40M - £20M we'll have to pay him to leave), Dalot (£40M).
    Everyone else I don't think we'd get any significant money for or we wouldn't sell.
    Other 'Sales'...
    Casemiro (free -Saudi only), Malacia (£1M), Shaw (-£12M), Lindelöf (free), Maaguire (free), Eriksen (free), Antony (£15M +/- £5M, -£34M still owed on transfer, -£10M on wages; total: -£29M +/- £5M)

    • @Standard_Jay
      @Standard_Jay 17 днів тому +1

      Nobody is paying £35 mil for Zirkzee

    • @mdavh2582
      @mdavh2582 17 днів тому

      @@Standard_Jay It's exactly what Milan were going to pay for him.

    • @Standard_Jay
      @Standard_Jay 16 днів тому

      @@mdavh2582 "were"...he's devalued now after being a total flop at Utd

  • @MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg
    @MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg 18 днів тому +1

    Said eight weeks ago it was a relegation battle when you were talking cl

  • @edwardreid1967
    @edwardreid1967 18 днів тому +1

    Tbh I don’t see this current UTD team of shite reaching the magical number of 40 points for survival . I see us losing at least 50% of our next prem matches. I can’t see any points out of Newcastle and , Liverpool . Maybe one point at home to Southampton . That’ll be one point out of 9 next 3 games . The players have been exposed not being protected and are now rabbits in headlights realizing they’ve been found out .

  • @MrSmiley9849
    @MrSmiley9849 18 днів тому +3

    Please Amorim - Drop Bruno Fernandes. Drop Dalot and don’t play Garnacho at all. Do this, and you’re already taking the disadvantages placed on the team by these players away. Forget winning football matches for now. Concentrate on being better defensively and if that means a few 0-0s so be it.

    • @davidellinsworth3299
      @davidellinsworth3299 18 днів тому +1

      Well... Bruno is suspended now

    • @MrSmiley9849
      @MrSmiley9849 17 днів тому

      @ thank goodness, but he needs to be dropped for at least a few games

  • @idontknowfootballfc
    @idontknowfootballfc 17 днів тому

    I think Adam said it well. He hasn't been completely honest about this team, many United fans haven't been. You became deluded under ETH, finally snapped out of it by sacking him and then became deluded again glazing over players and over patchwork performances. There are only 3 players to keep at United and they're Yoro, Mainoo and Amad for the long term. Some will stick around because they're okay, like Ugarte, de Ligt, Mazraoui, Martinez and a couple of others but they aren't United quality to where you want to go.

  • @BrianPeterSimpson
    @BrianPeterSimpson 18 днів тому +1

    I agree your in a religation fight for shore

  • @YoungWolf-g3t
    @YoungWolf-g3t 16 днів тому +1

    Money won't save you

  • @gdhyper6047
    @gdhyper6047 18 днів тому +5

    Ineos are a complete disaster

  • @markwilliams4274
    @markwilliams4274 18 днів тому +2

    Ohhhh im loving this🍿🤣

  • @trevorcross7703
    @trevorcross7703 17 днів тому +1

    This is the worst United team i have ever seen they clearly are not good enough.

  • @robc5520
    @robc5520 18 днів тому +3

    do sound checks before jay comes on,,, your always loud and Jay is to low

  • @DavyMagowan
    @DavyMagowan 17 днів тому +1

    Adam said that utd will finish in the top 4 put it like this there more chance of JACK THE RIPPER getting a woman without a bunch of grapes than that happening lol

  • @jarazimmerman3400
    @jarazimmerman3400 18 днів тому

    We need to get Vitek or Kovar back. At this point we just need a solid shot stopper to prevent these insane goals going in all the time. Onana can pass (sometimes) but we don't see the benefit lf that when he's shipping a ridiculous goal or two per game.

  • @thesaint5619
    @thesaint5619 18 днів тому +1

    Rashford honestly is a disgrace love that adam finaly said it how it is

  • @ashleylovestennis6476
    @ashleylovestennis6476 18 днів тому +1

    People need to think a bit more about the facts and not be sucked in by an agenda.
    Firstly, Tenhag finished 8th in the league and won an FA cup.
    Secondly, pundits and fans were claiming Man Utd had the best
    transfer window for years Ugarte-Yoro-Zirkze-Deligt-Masrawi
    Surely then Ruben Amorim was in a much better position with these 5 shiny new tools.
    But no, instead the agenda has become this is the worst set of players in Man Utd's history.
    You can't have it both ways, either it was a good transfer window, or it was not.
    It really does not matter because more then 600 million was spent on this squad in 2.5 years
    so to say there is no talent is ridiculous.
    The purpose of a coach is to improve the players he is given. Setting aside the 5 new shiny toys who of the players Tenhag
    finished 8th and won the FA cup has Amorim improved? Amad Diallo?
    I would argue Hoyland, Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho and Dalot have all got worse under Amorim.
    It is also clear that although injuries persist it has not been to the extent it was under Tenhag.
    Don't get me wrong, Tenhag was poor, and did not improve the team or the players. He should have been sacked at the end of season 2.
    I am merely questioning this agenda that has been going on under Amorim.
    The ONLY slack I can cut for Amorim is the short amount of time he has been here.
    Nonetheless the draw with Ipswich, and home losses to Nott Forest , Bournemouth and Wolves are really worrying.
    This agenda comes with talking up these teams like they are prime Barcelona.
    We were poor away from home under Tenhag but did better at home.
    All of these weaknesses, set pieces, not tracking the runners, giving away silly free kicks. There is NO sign of any improvement in any of these areas. This is the first press conference Amorim seems to have no answers. The confident fassade seems to be cracking here. I really hope this is just a case of him needing more time.
    Fans need to stop carrying on how he needs 10 new players, because we all know that will never happen.
    We don't have 600 million sitting in some pot somewhere, and even if we did the rules don't allow you to spend it.
    He needs to get on with the job of improving our players. No agenda's. He will be given time, but in the meantime needs to find a way to win at home. The fans need to stop bigging teams up like they are prime barcelona.

  • @johndirom8999
    @johndirom8999 17 днів тому +1

    If i was Ruben Amorim...i'd ask United to release me from my contract and go back to Sporting - who have just sacked the manager they hired to replace him.

    • @Standard_Jay
      @Standard_Jay 17 днів тому +1

      He can resign at any point.

    • @johndirom8999
      @johndirom8999 17 днів тому

      @@Standard_Jay Might United have some comeback on him for the money they spent getting him out of his Sporting contract? A contract works both ways; if United sack him they have to pay up his contract; can he just quit with no consequences? I don't know.