Hi John My last turntable was some 50 years ago. I really have no thoughts of going back to the poor S/N ratio, inner grove distortion. Poor dynamic range etc etc. Was the platter really made of steel?? I thought it should be of a nonmagnetic materiel like aluminum. It was a long time ago; my memory is as distorted as that phono preamp. Regarding the low output voltage, in the OLD days the RIAA preamp needed to amplify the 3mV up to only 100-150mV a similar level to a tuner or aux input of an integrated amplifier. These days most items have a much higher output, so such low-cost items struggle. I expect such a RIAA preamp does everything on a single chip, that's asking quite a lot. Very high gain and RIAA EQ. I also thought the tracking weight of 3.5 grams was a little on the high side. Most conical budget cartridges of the day Goldring G800, Audio Technical AT66 would track well at 2.5 grams. Just a thought!!
I'm going to give the Dual table my friend gave me a go w/ the ESP phono preamp. It has a higher end cartridge and hyper elliptical stylus. Back in the day, I recall most of my records having a unique sound that wasn't all that good, though my equipment was budget. I want to see what I can get, though I know it can't beat digital.
If you want to go budget, buy an old one. I have a Technics and is spot on. Belt driven, 0.045% W&F RMS and it is just one of the cheaper models. New can't beat the past with experience and construction in mind.
And I thought I might be getting the Dual back! Nice looking unit. A better cartridge, a little better servo motor, maybe a slightly improved preamp and they could improve this model or make a second model with these additions for a little more.
The Dual with the 8 pole synchronous motor, better arm, cartridge, stylus and pretty much everything else would take a lot of $$ to beat with a new table.
I think the distortion and the motor is just down to the power supply adaptor, maybe he should hook it up to one of his bench ones and see what distortion your get and if the motor runs better I think it will sorted it out
That is testing Intermodulation Test, I have that cartridge's and they are very good very hard to find styli for them, they have incredible Transient Response. That cartridge and Magnepans are fantastic, would you like to sell the record I'm interested.
I just saw this video on the UA-cam channel must have liked your review or they don't understand what you just said😂 think the main issue is the power supply it's DC? A $30 cheap linear power supply say 6 amps should do the job! maybe putting a 0.22 polycap on the motor also. I think it would help with the distortion from the wall adaptor that's my guess, I bet there's not much in it a few more capacitors a voltage regulator would have sorted it out I say you can get that from a cheap Chinese linear power supply
Nothing wrong with your English, I feel that all of those 'con's' could be sorted quiet easily by them. Cold you put a brushless motor with an ESC on it and set it up ? anyhow if they did fix it up it looks great....cheers. EDIT: just noticed that they use a cheap arsed mains switch to switch speeds and that's naff :)
Hi John
My last turntable was some 50 years ago. I really have no thoughts of going back to the poor S/N ratio, inner grove distortion. Poor dynamic range etc etc.
Was the platter really made of steel?? I thought it should be of a nonmagnetic materiel like aluminum. It was a long time ago; my memory is as distorted as that phono preamp.
Regarding the low output voltage, in the OLD days the RIAA preamp needed to amplify the 3mV up to only 100-150mV a similar level to a tuner or aux input of an integrated amplifier. These days most items have a much higher output, so such low-cost items struggle. I expect such a RIAA preamp does everything on a single chip, that's asking quite a lot. Very high gain and RIAA EQ.
I also thought the tracking weight of 3.5 grams was a little on the high side. Most conical budget cartridges of the day Goldring G800, Audio Technical AT66 would track well at 2.5 grams. Just a thought!!
I'm going to give the Dual table my friend gave me a go w/ the ESP phono preamp. It has a higher end cartridge and hyper elliptical stylus. Back in the day, I recall most of my records having a unique sound that wasn't all that good, though my equipment was budget. I want to see what I can get, though I know it can't beat digital.
WOW, Nice review. As mentioned, it's biggest weak point is the drive motor. An AC hysteresis 110 volt would upgrade the product if cost effective.
Why not ac24 votes might be a better choice
That test record is the best laugh I've had in days. Sorry about the $20.
If you want to go budget, buy an old one. I have a Technics and is spot on. Belt driven, 0.045% W&F RMS and it is just one of the cheaper models. New can't beat the past with experience and construction in mind.
And I thought I might be getting the Dual back! Nice looking unit. A better cartridge, a little better servo motor, maybe a slightly improved preamp and they could improve this model or make a second model with these additions for a little more.
The Dual with the 8 pole synchronous motor, better arm, cartridge, stylus and pretty much everything else would take a lot of $$ to beat with a new table.
I think the distortion and the motor is just down to the power supply adaptor, maybe he should hook it up to one of his bench ones and see what distortion your get and if the motor runs better I think it will sorted it out
For what it's worth there is no H in transient. Your pronunciation was correct (allowing for accents)!
That is testing Intermodulation Test, I have that cartridge's and they are very good very hard to find styli for them, they have incredible Transient Response. That cartridge and Magnepans are fantastic, would you like to sell the record I'm interested.
Angels horn just sounds like a polite way of say fart to me.
Maybe get Dark Side of the Moon on LP as a test record .
I just saw this video on the UA-cam channel must have liked your review or they don't understand what you just said😂
think the main issue is the power supply it's DC? A $30 cheap linear power supply say 6 amps should do the job! maybe putting a 0.22 polycap on the motor also. I think it would help with the distortion from the wall adaptor that's my guess, I bet there's not much in it a few more capacitors a voltage regulator would have sorted it out I say you can get that from a cheap Chinese linear power supply
Nothing wrong with your English, I feel that all of those 'con's' could be sorted quiet easily by them. Cold you put a brushless motor with an ESC on it and set it up ? anyhow if they did fix it up it looks great....cheers. EDIT: just noticed that they use a cheap arsed mains switch to switch speeds and that's naff :)
Why is this a good starter with all the wow and flutter? Don't buy it is a better advise i guess?
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