I tried Ubuntu Touch on a Pinephone. Very impressive: Ubuntu Touch that is. The PinePhone is a piece of crap, it sort of worked for 3 month, the length of the warranty then refused to charge. I hope the Ubuntu Touch community ports it to something reliable like a Fairphone or a ShiftPhone.
So from my perspective, the UT pinephone went the same way as the original UT phones ever since it came out. The community just did not show up to help or care. UBports did a bit for awhile with one guy, but the community voted with their feet for having UT work today under the android hardware layer, even though the goal was to have a pure linux phone. Moot point now as the pinephone is now getting old and never was meant to be anything except a dev platform. Still would be nice to see a real linux phone some day. We need that.
@@meowritz x86 support? What do you imagine that would be? It's an ARM processor so yes it will run just ARM apps. You can compile most apps to ARM anyways so all you really need to worry about is driver support for your touchscreen and finding apps that have touch support also.
A big pity this kind of died (main develop with Ubuntu) There must be a way to make it compatible with Android apps, their based on the same kernel, that way they could then concentrate on getting to run on more devices.
I did put alot of hopes in linux phones... but all I see is still just a complicated nokia phone, but slow and buggy. Most promising was SailfishOS - but even they seem to have given up, as russia is now using it for their Aurora OS. I dont want to troll... I'm sad myself about it.
I settled for a Google Pixel 3aXL with Ubuntu Touch. Installed Waydroid and Aurora store (no relation to AuroraOS afaik)and can so far run every Android app i wanted to try. Runs amazingly well for a mid tier from 2019.
Check out short; It details the steps. You can also go to the pinephone pro wiki. There are instructions and they will mildly differ depending on your current installation (installed to SDCard versus internal and if you have towbook installed as the bootloader.)
"those little dots next to running applications reminds me a little bit of MacOS X" yeah and it should remind of you something else.... hmm... has the same name... goes on the desktop...
@@bitterepic I think they mean the Unity desktop. Canonical was trying to make one environment which worked well on computers and phones while keeping the same look and feel.
Do you include a Naruto themed keyboard and mouse, to constantly type in the password, and copy off web pages commands, to paste in the Linux terminal? Even with free Sailor Moon themed keyboard and mouse, that dumb crap (especially the terminal) has to go, if you ever want more than 2-4% global users. Normal people aren't like Linux people. They have better things to do than type in their beloved Linux terminal all day and night long, from within mommy's basement.
@@StephenFasciani not really, because android smartphones are more often called to these parties for developers of mobile distributions, rather than real Linux devices.
I don't think primary development is done for the drivers of the Pinephone Pro using Ubuntu... so it isn't preinstalled. That also means that everything comes to Ubuntu Touch courtesy of a volunteer at a later point.
The sad thing is, Android IS Linux, so in theory, app support shouldn't be an issue. The problem is that open source is far more susceptible to viruses than a walled garden like iOS (As a lifelong Android owner, I can attest to that). They probably just aren't marketing it properly, marketing goes a long way to being successful.
LineageOS is what I currently use, de-googled and custom drivers, I love it. Linux Mobile could be so much better if it was advertised in a way that appeals to the masses while showcasing what it can do and more importantly, how it will benefit them. Few of them care about privacy, and even less are willing to challenge it when they do. So advertising other features while touting privacy as a benefit and not the focus would easily turn things around for them.
I think generally the largest danger is getting software from the internet on a random page. If your phone is like a computer, it opens vectors. Yes, the walled garden probably helps with security because people are actually payed to review applications from the app fees.. However, I don't think that software in proper repositories has that much more of a danger... they are also generally vetted to some degree. All of the danger comes from going outside of the safe zone. In the case of iPhone, you generally can't leave it at all.
If you look at the sponsorships, pine64 is listed... for how ever much that is worth. I can't say how much of a sponsorship it is. ubports.com/en/sponsorship
I tried Ubuntu Touch on a Pinephone. Very impressive: Ubuntu Touch that is. The PinePhone is a piece of crap, it sort of worked for 3 month, the length of the warranty then refused to charge. I hope the Ubuntu Touch community ports it to something reliable like a Fairphone or a ShiftPhone.
It's on older OnePlus phones, which is something.
I did not know Sheldon had a youtube channel. Nice!
People used to say I look like the Smashing Pumpkins guy. This is an upgrade!
@@bitterepic I hope you had a laugh out of it, that was the intention 🤣
So from my perspective, the UT pinephone went the same way as the original UT phones ever since it came out. The community just did not show up to help or care. UBports did a bit for awhile with one guy, but the community voted with their feet for having UT work today under the android hardware layer, even though the goal was to have a pure linux phone. Moot point now as the pinephone is now getting old and never was meant to be anything except a dev platform. Still would be nice to see a real linux phone some day. We need that.
Commenting from Ubuntu touch on the pixel 3a XL
You have terminal in a phone!!!?? Impressive!
This would be cool if it had x86 support but as is its probably one of the least useful phone operating systems ive seen in a while
@@meowritz x86 support? What do you imagine that would be? It's an ARM processor so yes it will run just ARM apps.
You can compile most apps to ARM anyways so all you really need to worry about is driver support for your touchscreen and finding apps that have touch support also.
Yeah, better than nothing.
@@meowritz I can run x86 apps with Box64 on my OnePlus with PostmarketOS on it.
I have one in android too. Termux is the name of that app.
Now you can also run it on qemu, as now you don’t need a passtrough to get opengl and other niceties to get ubuntu touch running.
Ubuntu touch vs Graphene vs Lineage vs Calyx, which one is better?
Noted! I'll put this in my queue
@@bitterepic great to hear
What if we run sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root?
A big pity this kind of died (main develop with Ubuntu) There must be a way to make it compatible with Android apps, their based on the same kernel, that way they could then concentrate on getting to run on more devices.
you have a google free cell, and goes install google mess again.......
I'm basically just trying to install LINE from the play store. Do you recommend some other stores?
Since it's gon run on a mobile chip the lack of software kills me
I did put alot of hopes in linux phones... but all I see is still just a complicated nokia phone, but slow and buggy. Most promising was SailfishOS - but even they seem to have given up, as russia is now using it for their Aurora OS. I dont want to troll... I'm sad myself about it.
I settled for a Google Pixel 3aXL with Ubuntu Touch. Installed Waydroid and Aurora store (no relation to AuroraOS afaik)and can so far run every Android app i wanted to try. Runs amazingly well for a mid tier from 2019.
How do you install ubuntu touch on the Pine Phone >
Check out short; It details the steps. You can also go to the pinephone pro wiki. There are instructions and they will mildly differ depending on your current installation (installed to SDCard versus internal and if you have towbook installed as the bootloader.)
"those little dots next to running applications reminds me a little bit of MacOS X" yeah and it should remind of you something else.... hmm... has the same name... goes on the desktop...
Not exactly sure what it would be. I didn't have any luck googling either :-/ Any other clues?
Goes on the desktop ?? I can't think of it. Has anyone resolved this puzzle
Hahah, did you mean Ubuntu Desktop?
@@bitterepic I think they mean the Unity desktop. Canonical was trying to make one environment which worked well on computers and phones while keeping the same look and feel.
Do you include a Naruto themed keyboard and mouse, to constantly type in the password, and copy off web pages commands, to paste in the Linux terminal? Even with free Sailor Moon themed keyboard and mouse, that dumb crap (especially the terminal) has to go, if you ever want more than 2-4% global users. Normal people aren't like Linux people. They have better things to do than type in their beloved Linux terminal all day and night long, from within mommy's basement.
How does this compare to Lune ?
I'm getting a lot of Luna requests. I'll be looking into it.
It is so "nice" that it is not even installed from the official installer on the Linux smartphone PP.........................................
Wow you must be fun at parties
@@StephenFasciani not really, because android smartphones are more often called to these parties for developers of mobile distributions, rather than real Linux devices.
I don't think primary development is done for the drivers of the Pinephone Pro using Ubuntu... so it isn't preinstalled. That also means that everything comes to Ubuntu Touch courtesy of a volunteer at a later point.
From where did you get it, and how did you install it?
The installer only supports devices created to run android.
The sad thing is, Android IS Linux, so in theory, app support shouldn't be an issue.
The problem is that open source is far more susceptible to viruses than a walled garden like iOS (As a lifelong Android owner, I can attest to that).
They probably just aren't marketing it properly, marketing goes a long way to being successful.
LineageOS is what I currently use, de-googled and custom drivers, I love it.
Linux Mobile could be so much better if it was advertised in a way that appeals to the masses while showcasing what it can do and more importantly, how it will benefit them.
Few of them care about privacy, and even less are willing to challenge it when they do. So advertising other features while touting privacy as a benefit and not the focus would easily turn things around for them.
"open source is far more susceptible to viruses than a walled garden" This has been debunked many times
I think generally the largest danger is getting software from the internet on a random page. If your phone is like a computer, it opens vectors.
Yes, the walled garden probably helps with security because people are actually payed to review applications from the app fees.. However, I don't think that software in proper repositories has that much more of a danger... they are also generally vetted to some degree.
All of the danger comes from going outside of the safe zone. In the case of iPhone, you generally can't leave it at all.
You can install waydroid, but it drains the battery a lot faster
Oh yeah and you can install it without apt by using the waydroid helper in the openstore
but ubuntu touch is discontinued
It's still supported by the community. Though you are right to question about how far they can get without a (primary?) corporate sponsor.
If you look at the sponsorships, pine64 is listed... for how ever much that is worth. I can't say how much of a sponsorship it is.
ubports.com/en/sponsorship
It survived since 2017 and even has an official foundation now. I'd say it's already a great success. Been using UT as my main phone since 2015 😄
Who want to use Linux on a phone??
Me and least thousands more people.
clunky weird fake android OS