The spadone - was it a longsword or greatsword or... what?

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  • @karloswald407
    @karloswald407 3 роки тому +2561

    I choose to believe Lloyd had a scroll of summon cheerleaders in his car.

    • @Zeppathy
      @Zeppathy 3 роки тому +117

      This is now cannon.

    • @CreatorCade
      @CreatorCade 3 роки тому +80

      Where can I get one of those scrolls?

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 3 роки тому +122

      *The Beige Scrolls*

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 3 роки тому +31

      @@CreatorCade Beat me to it. Lol. Something tells me that would be one of the more popular scrolls.

    • @NorroTaku
      @NorroTaku 3 роки тому +6

      *steed

  • @Ramiroocampo
    @Ramiroocampo 3 роки тому +3338

    The simultaneous commenting on both sparring and cheerleading is the most lindybeige thing I have encountered so far.

    • @charlespfaff6585
      @charlespfaff6585 3 роки тому +74

      That's what medieval combat needed...cheerleaders!

    • @grimrott891
      @grimrott891 3 роки тому +32

      I'm waiting for him to get hired to do commentary on those medieval combats with blunt weapons that's what we need

    • @HaarigerKlumpen
      @HaarigerKlumpen 3 роки тому +8

      Throw some Lindyhop in the mix and it's perfect!

    • @micheal49
      @micheal49 3 роки тому +11

      thrusting and thrusting and thrusting and thrusting
      I need a smoke
      and a nap

    • @bjarkekjrsteinbeck9902
      @bjarkekjrsteinbeck9902 3 роки тому +9

      @@charlespfaff6585 there was a video about viking age war witches a while back. I forgot the name of the video but basically they stood on a platform by the battlefield and flashed the warriors while cursing their enemies

  • @Vincrand
    @Vincrand 3 роки тому +1439

    When he said "that is why I wear a dagger. It means I don't have to learn wrestling as well." I thought he got a point.

    • @vendomnu
      @vendomnu 3 роки тому +284

      Well, of course, he has a point - wouldn't be much of a dagger, otherwise.

    • @amiscellaneoushuman3516
      @amiscellaneoushuman3516 3 роки тому +198

      @@vendomnu on the contrary, we clearly see when he holds it up that it has a rounded tip, presumably to avoid actually killing his sparing partner (an act which I'm led to believe is considered rather bad form)

    • @dELTA13579111315
      @dELTA13579111315 3 роки тому +159

      @@amiscellaneoushuman3516 I have heard that, indeed, it is generally frowned upon. Hard to find a sparring partner after the 3rd

    • @barryirlandi4217
      @barryirlandi4217 3 роки тому +15

      Wrestling is fun

    • @francesbadger3401
      @francesbadger3401 3 роки тому +23

      Indeed, in some countries people carry firearms for essentially the same reason.

  • @BM-yy8db
    @BM-yy8db 3 роки тому +1907

    I can't help but feel like we in the modern day care so much more about specific sword naming than they did in the times when they actually used them

    • @stoirmslw7195
      @stoirmslw7195 3 роки тому +259

      Agreed it was probably a lot like how we talk about cars today rarely calling them by their names sometimes by their brand and most often by their style

    • @king0vitrial
      @king0vitrial 3 роки тому +194

      @@stoirmslw7195 I was just going to mention something like that. I wonder if, in a few hundred years, after cars become a thing of the past and replaced by some other form of personal transportation, will car enthusiasts of tomorrow have all sorts of silly post-fabricated terms and categories for vehicles that we don't even think to use today.

    • @stoirmslw7195
      @stoirmslw7195 3 роки тому +33

      @@king0vitrial probably but I don’t see cars or rather wheeled ground vehicles (or an equivalent)* going away any time soon and by that I mean within the next few hundred millennia

    • @MrAranton
      @MrAranton 3 роки тому +126

      The people that actually used swords only encountered those types that were used in their time and the region they lived in. The wouldn't need a lot of terminology to differentiate between the kinds of swords they encountered, because they wouldn't encounter that many kinds. Sword enthusiasts encounter swords from many periods and from all over the world and some fictional realms, too. So in order to differentiate, a larger vocabulary is needed.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 роки тому +28

      @@king0vitrial I feel like we're already there, the Germans are calling big powerful sedans, "grand coupes" (isn't a hallmark of a coupe being a 2 door?) and in America any fwd sedan with a semi acceptable amount of power is called a "sport sedan" (mostly circa 95-2010) as if we do anything sporty with a pontiac grand prix as we poddle on to work.

  • @fratguide9835
    @fratguide9835 3 роки тому +440

    The idea that the Spadone is a skirmish-oriented long sword makes sense for the time and place it was invented, ~16th century Italy where there weren’t many large state funded armies but groups of mercenaries where battles could be about 20 a side over bridges and narrow alleyways.
    Brilliant video, loved the addition of cheerleaders

    • @bemersonbakebarmen
      @bemersonbakebarmen 3 роки тому +14

      Yeah. By that time armies were moving towards pikes and powder. The sword was a side arm not an important part of infantry.

    • @blakelowrey9620
      @blakelowrey9620 2 роки тому +17

      @@bemersonbakebarmen in pike and shot units there would be an occasional swordsman to protect the pikeman and musketeers
      That's when this weapon, and the iconic zweihander were in their element

    • @hinanawimomoko9492
      @hinanawimomoko9492 Рік тому +8

      @@bemersonbakebarmen In terms of pike and shot, some pictures featured that spada a due mani was used commonly (I’m not going to say occasionally) in the center or as side guard of the formation. Pikemen with pikes wasted, given up or controlled and arquebusiers with guns fired usually had no shield and were not fully armored. Halberdiers in formation were not so great in some angle or direction(left side, for example) when attacked, which made spadone a devastating weaopon in such circumstances. Never the less I totally agree it must also be a great guerrilla or civilian dueling weapon. Italian spadone are usually stiffer than their Iberian counter part (montante 1.6~1.7 meters) . Both being good dueling weapon, a spadone, however, is more accurate when performing small cut and thrust than a common montante. When a rapier is often considered slightly better than a longsword(or at least can stand against it), a spadone may be a lot more disgusting opponent for a dueling rapier, war rapier or a side sword. More or less, it still has some capability of defeating enemy in superior numbers.

  • @El-Burrito
    @El-Burrito 3 роки тому +1985

    Absolutely love that you're having sword fights in a field with people casually walking by in the background. Feels almost normal

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 3 роки тому +48

      And to add to the naturalistic nature if it..
      It looked like the dog was thing if have a shit..
      Very naturally for dogs..
      Lol

    • @alangknowles
      @alangknowles 3 роки тому +110

      Yes indeed officer. The blade is less than 4 inches long.
      These are not the swords you are searching for.
      Look, they're not wearing masks over there.

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 3 роки тому +8

      @@alangknowles lel

    • @PaulRudd1941
      @PaulRudd1941 3 роки тому +44

      @@alangknowles oy guv! You got a loicense fo' that there longsword?
      Lindybeige: "aha that's where you're wrong coppa!"

    • @estranhokonsta
      @estranhokonsta 3 роки тому +6

      Well i don't know about the licence for the swords fights. What i am worried is how did he got the licence for the cheerleaders?

  • @gramursowanfaborden5820
    @gramursowanfaborden5820 3 роки тому +566

    aha, but you see, whereas a Longsword is long, this is very long, so the technical and historically accurate term is the _Verylongsword_

    • @vathek5958
      @vathek5958 3 роки тому +75

      Longersword is the term they use in the manuals I’ve read

    • @JDKDKDLDKDKDKDKKKDERYY
      @JDKDKDLDKDKDKDKKKDERYY 3 роки тому +38

      Dreihänder HAS to be the correct term

    • @boomamathics2666
      @boomamathics2666 3 роки тому +29

      Actually the only correct term is pretty decently long sword

    • @JeromeSkavenSlayer
      @JeromeSkavenSlayer 3 роки тому +27

      Ratheralotasword

    • @duo496
      @duo496 3 роки тому +38

      There are myths out there of the fabled *_longestsword_*

  • @petem6755
    @petem6755 3 роки тому +1967

    Imagine cheerleaders being present during actual medieval duals

    • @rupdesnoop
      @rupdesnoop 3 роки тому +220

      At the tournies there were often ladies in attendance watching and even judging the fighters. I'm sure it had a similar effect.

    • @inquisitorwalmarius6650
      @inquisitorwalmarius6650 3 роки тому +81

      not uncommon to have a group of witnesses and curious people watching a dual, if no witness are present, the duels outcome are deemed void.

    • @rogerborg
      @rogerborg 3 роки тому +42

      I'd say give A Knight's Tale a try. It's daft, but jolly good fun, and shows tournaments as they'd have been perceived by the people at the time, i.e. massive sports / concert events with superstars and groupies.

    • @rogerborg
      @rogerborg 3 роки тому +10

      @@inquisitorwalmarius6650 I'd have thought that the first guy to die loses.

    • @Teknokraatti
      @Teknokraatti 3 роки тому +51

      @@rogerborg Duels to the death were fairly rare, even more so as an intentional affair. Concession or first wound were the usual ways to resolve a duel. Furthermore, the apparent winner might have gotten wounded him/herself (There were women dueling as well) too, which gives rise to a bunch of issues. First of all, if both are wounded but survive, you need witnesses to prove which hit happened first. The duel would have been agreed to solve a matter of high significance to the individuals, so a sizable amount of property or money, a contested marriage or the honor and reputation of the participants would have hinged on the matter and in all such cases, the resolution would have material significance to their relatives and friends even if one or both of the participants died as a result of the duel.
      There's also the possibility that without witnesses, one participant might concede after a wound or even before the duel begun, but surprise other person after the fact and kill them essentially by treachery and outside the rules of a duel. There'd be nobody to prove that it wasn't just a naturally deadly duel if there were no witnesses. Not only would this put into question the validity of the issue of the duel at hand, it could very well spell out a feud between the families of the duelists.

  • @klarsen1042
    @klarsen1042 3 роки тому +206

    I must question the historical accuracy of cheerleaders on the battlefield. They were never featured on any tapestries, so I'm compelled to wonder if they were in fact utilized in ancient battles.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 3 роки тому

      Often, wounded knee for example is mostly women and children. But mostly they don't count, last week I found figures in the style 1352 soldiers and probably hundreds of civilians

    • @mgc7199
      @mgc7199 3 роки тому +1

      Oh yeah. those short pompoms are lethal!

    • @loungelizard3922
      @loungelizard3922 Рік тому +2

      The many Germanic armies that fought Rome were often accompanied by their families, women and children. Their women would bare their breasts if it looked like the men were losing, to remind the men what the other side would do to their women if they didn't win.

    • @coaxill4059
      @coaxill4059 Рік тому

      Typically they were not at the front line

    • @SwordsMaster7.
      @SwordsMaster7. Рік тому

      Reminds me a little of that one battle in the civil war. The name evades me at the moment, but I remember people came to watch and see it happen. Probably came to cheer on their side too I'd guess.

  • @sweepingtime
    @sweepingtime 3 роки тому +44

    I've watched so much 'Hollywood fighting' and seen so many big, wide, thick swords wielded by so many characters not wearing armour (or clothes) and helmets... that, seeing this sparring match with real weapons feels novel and refreshing and so interesting to watch.

  • @sargi769
    @sargi769 3 роки тому +478

    "Wouldst thou fight for thy ladies favour?"
    "Bugger off! I'm trying not to die!"

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 3 роки тому +36

      I mean being chivalrous is all well and good when your not going to die for it..lol🤣

    • @beardedbjorn5520
      @beardedbjorn5520 3 роки тому +6

      I got a big belly laugh from this hahaha

  • @RoninDave
    @RoninDave 3 роки тому +403

    "Hello? Police? I would like to report two men sword-fighting in the park!"
    "Did you say sword-fighting?"
    "Yes, they are fighting with what looks like very large swords."
    "Ah, probably a new Lindybeige video. Pay it no mind."

    • @stevencooper4422
      @stevencooper4422 3 роки тому +20

      "We have important mask policing to do, mind you!"

    • @Jman16007
      @Jman16007 3 роки тому +19

      "Yes, yes, swordfighting, sure... Do they have a loicense?"

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 3 роки тому +2

      Ronin Dave! YOU!!

    • @amomentintimeofthebruhvari5313
      @amomentintimeofthebruhvari5313 3 роки тому +10

      “A very large sword? Would you say a longsword or a great sword?”

    • @mmouse1886
      @mmouse1886 3 роки тому +2

      @@amomentintimeofthebruhvari5313 beginning of a Monty Python Skit there.

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi 3 роки тому +1794

    "Jake tests Zack's reactions."
    *" ɴ ᴏ ᴛ ʜ ɪ ɴ ɢ "*

    • @abrahamlincoln9758
      @abrahamlincoln9758 3 роки тому +38

      👁👄👁

    • @peenplays4219
      @peenplays4219 3 роки тому +18

      I happened to read that at the exact same time that Lindy said it

    • @rogerborg
      @rogerborg 3 роки тому +6

      Well, he did then to go on to compare it to cricket, which is very apt if you know your Python.

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture 3 роки тому +4

      Why react when it's out of measure right? 😂 Well you could use it to close the gap I guess.

    • @mitwhitgaming7722
      @mitwhitgaming7722 3 роки тому +3

      Feels like it could be a meme format

  • @perfectplayingplaids
    @perfectplayingplaids 3 роки тому +53

    32:17 I really see his mastery in this by the way he swings his left arm while wobbling the sword in his right, you can tell that there's an excellent awareness about the balance of not only the weapon he's wielding, but his own arm, too. By swinging that counterbalance, he's able to keep his torso from swinging all about the place. Truly a master at HEMA, I'd say.

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  3 роки тому +32

      I was unaware that I was doing it. Instinct kicked in. Yes, it does seem to counter the forces on my torso quite well.

  • @Morgannin
    @Morgannin 3 роки тому +40

    When I saw the cheerleaders in the background, I was wondering if Lloyd was going to acknowledge them. He... Sure did.

  • @LesserOfTwoWeevils
    @LesserOfTwoWeevils 3 роки тому +999

    I love how they got so much more aggressive after the gals came in

    • @gerard518
      @gerard518 3 роки тому +211

      Pussy power does wondrous stuff.

    • @anaussie213
      @anaussie213 3 роки тому +120

      The maidens more like.

    • @Randomness65535
      @Randomness65535 3 роки тому +66

      @@anaussie213 oh I doubt it

    • @IndigoIndustrial
      @IndigoIndustrial 3 роки тому +79

      It could have ended badly. Testosterone + Swords flying around is not a good combo.
      The women were too close to the action at one point.

    • @bilboswaggings
      @bilboswaggings 3 роки тому +68

      well you have to show you are the alpha male so you can get a date with Lindybeige instead

  • @robjeffreys1498
    @robjeffreys1498 3 роки тому +591

    _Me, reading my spadone instruction manual_ "Hold pointy end... away from face." "Do not use spadone within one hour of eating."

    • @Rellikan
      @Rellikan 3 роки тому +81

      Shake well before use.

    • @Dyundu
      @Dyundu 3 роки тому +45

      “Outside use only.”

    • @RRVCrinale
      @RRVCrinale 3 роки тому +101

      If battles persist for longer than four hours, consult a tactician.

    • @lorenzopalozza6279
      @lorenzopalozza6279 3 роки тому +34

      "batteries not included"

    • @charlespfaff6585
      @charlespfaff6585 3 роки тому +14

      Do not use in water.

  • @jerebear4433
    @jerebear4433 3 роки тому +1201

    I am loving this WAY more then the Olympic Games
    The commentary is also top notch!

    • @cactusmann5542
      @cactusmann5542 3 роки тому +27

      Lets face it , 2020(1) olympics went down the shitter. No awesome defilee, no spectators, a third of the sportsmen got banned because of the corona, >40"C heat...... 'namdemic and all

    • @garrick3727
      @garrick3727 3 роки тому +26

      @@cactusmann5542 No cheerleaders.

    • @ericjohnson7234
      @ericjohnson7234 3 роки тому +34

      thats because the olumpic games is all fanfair and its a pretentious show about money and politics, this is just good old fashioned fun.

    • @Kvint-kh12345
      @Kvint-kh12345 3 роки тому

      Yea, i'll just tune in for Lasha Talakhadze to see, if he reaches 500kg mark, and that'll be my whole Olympics experience.

    • @JRL6211
      @JRL6211 3 роки тому +5

      And ... cheerleaders! 😂

  • @kino_61
    @kino_61 Рік тому +11

    I like that one of the alternative names for a two handed sword you listed is spadoncino.
    It comes from "spada" (sword) + suffix "one" (big) + suffix "ino" (small). Thus meaning smaller big sword. I love the qualitative suffix system 😭

  • @dopaminedrip
    @dopaminedrip 3 роки тому +15

    These HEMA clips are absolutely amazing mate, the practitioners are really good as well. The WHIRLING LONGSWORD demo by Zach was absolutely great man.
    So good to see your amazing new house has room to swing a sword too as well!
    Thank you sir, you are a true keeper of many British and European traditions and I am so grateful.

  • @Reijack
    @Reijack 3 роки тому +388

    The cheerleaders were a stroke of genius

  • @arghjayem
    @arghjayem 3 роки тому +713

    Must be an interesting park to passers by: a pair of friends/lovers chatting on a bench, people walking their dogs, cheerleaders doing their stretching exercises……and two guys fighting with medieval weaponry whilst dressed like Sith Lords…

    • @peterwall8191
      @peterwall8191 3 роки тому +65

      *Argh JayEm*
      Sadly, the sword fight did not draw a crowd. How's a body to make an honest living, if people wont bet on a freaking swordfight?

    • @pierredunn68
      @pierredunn68 3 роки тому +29

      @@peterwall8191 i guess they just see someone beat the holy crap of each other with swords there 3-4 times a week

    • @maddie9602
      @maddie9602 3 роки тому +30

      Especially if it's a park where HEMA practitioners or LARPers are common, people tend to ignore the nerds with swords and carry on with their days, at least in my experience.

    • @michaelcrockis7679
      @michaelcrockis7679 3 роки тому +13

      Common folks tend to give a sword fight a wondering glance and then go on on their affairs. Never form a crowd. That's how I experienced it.

    • @pierredunn68
      @pierredunn68 3 роки тому +5

      @@michaelcrockis7679 why would they? its not too kind and might distact fighters

  • @ALE199-ita
    @ALE199-ita 3 роки тому +799

    being Italian is so funny how we actually called a big sword like Spadone
    Not even something more classy like "Grande Spada" litterly "Spadone" lmao.

    • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
      @MidlifeCrisisJoe 3 роки тому +86

      I mean, if a longsword is a long sword, it makes sense. If Spadone just means "big sword" and it's a big sword . . . seems fine to me.

    • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
      @MidlifeCrisisJoe 3 роки тому +35

      @LindsRealm Ahh that makes some sense. Thank you for explaining.

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 3 роки тому +16

      In finnish, a greatsword is often translated as "kahdenkädenmiekka"

    • @maddie9602
      @maddie9602 3 роки тому +36

      @LindsRealm the swordiest sword!

    • @mactrauma5323
      @mactrauma5323 3 роки тому +22

      In Spanish is literally "Espadón"

  • @keagandunham5014
    @keagandunham5014 2 роки тому +7

    I've studied and practiced this type of sword(Montante, Spadone, Espadone) for about a year now, Alfieri and Godhino specifically, and you did a great job at showing this amazing weapon!

  • @catinshoe
    @catinshoe 3 роки тому +3

    I love the sound effects, gives a lively feel to it and you can actually see that he's enjoying himself whilst talking about it

  • @thundermolloy
    @thundermolloy 3 роки тому +229

    Those folks that walked through his shot with their dog were definitely not expecting to find a wild Lindy in the Park!

  • @cocorazor8837
    @cocorazor8837 3 роки тому +392

    The cheer team really cheered them up; at least for a while.

    • @manueltoloza6007
      @manueltoloza6007 3 роки тому +60

      Of course they did, they're young blokes being cheered by pretty ladies, it's the perfect motivation, Loyd and his good understanding of male behavior, just hilarious

    • @aboomination897
      @aboomination897 3 роки тому +11

      They gave me the cringe tbh, but I guess that's me.

    • @manueltoloza6007
      @manueltoloza6007 3 роки тому +23

      @@aboomination897 oh for sure cringe it's a part of it, it's teenagers we're taking about

    • @IamOutOfNames
      @IamOutOfNames 3 роки тому

      Their practice has paid off.

    • @Andreabay90
      @Andreabay90 3 роки тому +1

      @@manueltoloza6007 adults? xd

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 3 роки тому +197

    "Oh no!"
    "Dropped the pom-poms!!" wasn't expected!

    • @bilboswaggings
      @bilboswaggings 3 роки тому +10

      I started reading comments after the addition of cheerleaders to see what the comments were saying, found this comment about 5 seconds before the moment happened
      so pretty much I read the comment and then I hear him repeat it after me

    • @itchykami
      @itchykami 3 роки тому +3

      Bad to drop your pom-poms, the spearman could easily have gone in for the kill.

  • @flexfortune4938
    @flexfortune4938 3 роки тому +22

    It would have been interesting to see Olga have a go with the Spadone. Maybe a follow up video?

  • @WisJordan
    @WisJordan 3 роки тому +23

    Ahhh Lindybeigh. The relaxing accent, the casual sarcasm, the fountain of knowledge, and of course the beige.
    Never stop uploading and never let the French forget where they stand lol

    • @ArdentArchivist
      @ArdentArchivist 3 роки тому +4

      Downwind, hopefully!

    • @Jafroboy
      @Jafroboy 3 роки тому

      @@ArdentArchivist Dang that's good, I'm stealing that!

  • @Crowbars2
    @Crowbars2 3 роки тому +428

    This video makes me wonder how interesting a world would be had we never discovered gunpowder but still had cameras and the internet.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 роки тому +90

      Imagine fighting world war two, with all the motorized vehicles they had in that era, but with guns, cannons, etc replaced with swords balistas and the like. Imagine an m4 Sherman armed with a balista, and escorted by infantry armed with longswords maces etc.

    • @Oberon4278
      @Oberon4278 3 роки тому +44

      @@BigWheel. I question whether you'd have seen such things at all, given the changes you're suggesting. But I'm still working through the implications so forgive me if I'm missing something obvious.
      Actually now that I think a bit... yes I suppose it would make sense to have mounted artillery, as well as infantry, even if you didn't have gunpowder. I have to keep going back to "what's the point of all this, again?" because the fundamental assumptions I fall back on fall apart if there's no gunpowder. For example, no amount of sword bashing against a tank would ever damage it. So tanks have no need to fear infantry at all, or even other tanks. There would be no anti-tank rifles or gun emplacements, and tanks couldn't destroy other tanks. At worst you'd get a 300kg stone launched at you, which might crunch the hull but honestly, you could make a tank hull to withstand such a thing. The suspension and carriage would collapse for sure but the crew could survive.
      So if tanks are unstoppable, why even put artillery on them? Why not just make them speedy and relatively light and use them to drive over the infantry, squishing them? Well, because that requires catching the infantry, and there can be an awful lot of infantry for every wheeled vehicle and it becomes impractical to squish things one at a time. But artillery can do a very good job of attacking many soft targets at once.
      And you would still want infantry, because the point of a military is to take and hold ground, and at the end of the day infantry is really your best option for that.
      As an aside, this is one of the reasons I'm proud to have served as an Infantryman. I don't want to make this too long but I didn't want to be infantry at first. It wasn't until after the brainwashing (and learning! there was some of that as well!) that I realized how fundamental a man with a rifle (or sword) really is to every military endeavor.

    • @JJW3
      @JJW3 3 роки тому +34

      @@BigWheel. Flamethrowers and flame tanks like the Churchill Crocodile would dominate. Since there are mechanized vehicles, petrochemicals are available.

    • @James-oj6ru
      @James-oj6ru 3 роки тому +3

      So Castlevania?

    • @flyingsheep1539
      @flyingsheep1539 3 роки тому +10

      @@cokecan6169 There were always good solutions, in fact bladed weapons were usually not used to police people since its hard to not mortally wound someone with it. Mancatchers are highly effective, and whacking with a club always works well

  • @keelanmurphy9941
    @keelanmurphy9941 3 роки тому +161

    Lloyd keeps eight cheerleaders in the cupboard under the stairs for emergency crises in morale.

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 3 роки тому +9

      Seems like it ...😉
      Let's be honest..🤔
      We all wish we could manifest a bunch of cheerleaders on command.
      Lol🤣

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid 3 роки тому +2

      I think he has been cooking up something like this ever since the 'why we go fight' video

  • @frydemwingz
    @frydemwingz 3 роки тому +161

    I feel like a real gentleman watching some swordfighting instead of anime analysis videos.

    • @Bluesonofman
      @Bluesonofman 3 роки тому +12

      dude you can do both. Look up Shadiversity sometime

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 3 роки тому +4

      Por que no los dos?

    • @matheussanthiago9685
      @matheussanthiago9685 3 роки тому +1

      you've graduated from weeb to medieval weapons geek

    • @riven5952
      @riven5952 3 роки тому +4

      This is sword art offline

  • @blackmetalbanjocore
    @blackmetalbanjocore 3 роки тому +12

    3:46 remember, switching to your secondary is always faster than reloading.

  • @RyanRyzzo
    @RyanRyzzo 3 роки тому +8

    Lindy making the "doioioioioioinng" noise is the best thing I've seen this month.

  • @ichisichify
    @ichisichify 3 роки тому +152

    19:14 "I can put three hands on the grip"
    Good heavens, it's a Dreihänder!
    furthermore, when i made my larp zweihänder i INSISTED on making it taller than myself. it's fun!

    • @rojopantalones9791
      @rojopantalones9791 3 роки тому +7

      My LARP staff is maximum length according to the rules, which is just my full armspan. Sadly, due to my proportionally shorter arms, it's not even as tall as I am. It's quite fun to use the weapons of the taller folks for a little while, though, even if they can be wind bats.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому +6

      Conversely, I made my LARP polearm at minimum length, and could carry it concealed under my cloak.

    • @ichisichify
      @ichisichify 3 роки тому +3

      @@rojopantalones9791 sounds like a silly ruleset ngl.

    • @vodam6970
      @vodam6970 3 роки тому

      my larp sword, which i named "Shieldbreaker", is EXTREMELY heavy, and at max length for a one handed sword

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 3 роки тому

      @@vodam6970 In the LARP I played, extremely heavy would have it fail the safety check-in.
      Different LARP's different rules, yeah?

  • @ethan5719
    @ethan5719 3 роки тому +1368

    Lindy was born in the wrong era, he looks so comfortable holding two giant swords

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 роки тому +46

      As a british, running away from danger is in his blood so no really

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 3 роки тому +26

      @@ommsterlitz1805 so is then getting yourself sorted out and ready before returning and putting an end to said danger. Certainly beats dieing pointlessly in the process of failing to put an end to it.

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 роки тому +10

      @@laurencefraser No since the British always used mercenaries to fight for them as they knew they couldn't fight on land. They were always beaten on land by the French in 1vs1 and even lost multiples times to zulus with gatling guns and cannons lmfao.

    • @ethan5719
      @ethan5719 3 роки тому +56

      @@ommsterlitz1805 you have mistaken Brits for the French lol

    • @hurst8811
      @hurst8811 3 роки тому +12

      Ikr or perhaps he is just 600 years old and has unlocked the key to eternal life

  • @marion_roberts
    @marion_roberts 3 роки тому +461

    Feels like the longer the weapon, the more thrust attacks play a better role. Spear bias😆

    • @elmaxidelsur
      @elmaxidelsur 3 роки тому +69

      As someone who has done sparring using BIG 2 handed swords and is great with the spear, I can confirm, it's just a spear with hand protection

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 3 роки тому +66

      @@elmaxidelsur a pike is just a long handled rapier.

    • @elmaxidelsur
      @elmaxidelsur 3 роки тому +4

      @@kenbrown2808 jajaja aaaaa parcial credit, lol

    • @bashkillszombies
      @bashkillszombies 3 роки тому +4

      Your mom said the same thing last night.

    • @Nocure92
      @Nocure92 3 роки тому +13

      R1 R1 R1

  • @renkanestark6945
    @renkanestark6945 3 роки тому +1

    29:17 that point is called a harmonic node if I’m not mistaken.

  • @lihisluikku
    @lihisluikku Рік тому +2

    The Montante and Spadone have to be my favorite swords. Almost the power of the Zweihander greatsword. Yet almost the speed of a longsword, and almost the design elegance of a rapier.
    And when someone has trained with it, the flowing cuts look so awesome.

    • @Xterminate13
      @Xterminate13 Рік тому

      Spadone is still small enough to be welded one handed. Zweihander usually needs two hands and is more akin to spear than sword. Spadone is ferocious but can be easily dodged like all swords. Zweihander is almost undodgable but it's very hard to get consecutive cuts over and over again compared to spadone. IMHO

  • @holofech9744
    @holofech9744 3 роки тому +32

    28:37 Oh my gosh, growing up we would find the "sweet spot" of a metal baseball bat by holding it with two fingers and tapping the grip end on the ground. The sweet spot would be the place you held it that made it vibrate the most. This is the exact same thing essentially, we were finding the stationary point, as holding it at any other point would dampen the vibrations. Super cool!

  • @mightbeafrog
    @mightbeafrog 3 роки тому +80

    So professional he even has the cameraman being filmed for behind the scenes extras, wow!

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames 3 роки тому +12

      It's infinite recursion, theres camera men in a line all the way out the door.
      In retrospect, it was kind of a waste, all the other camera men's footage never ended up being necessary.

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 3 роки тому +242

    Shad, somewhere in Australia, throwing his arms up: “He said Greatsword! Is he even allowed to say that word?! How dare he use that so inaccurately!”

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 3 роки тому +5

      :-D

    • @retohaner5328
      @retohaner5328 3 роки тому +37

      Well, that's because Shad is generally wrong about everything.

    • @Astraben
      @Astraben 3 роки тому +7

      Y'all sound bitter

    • @beardedbjorn5520
      @beardedbjorn5520 3 роки тому +14

      I think Shad’s terminology for a sword inbetween a Long sword and a Great sword as a “war sword” is okay. Maxamilian I used a large long sword that he referred to as his war sword.

    • @RainMakeR_Workshop
      @RainMakeR_Workshop 3 роки тому +26

      @@retohaner5328 Such as? Sure, he gets stuff wrong, but whenever he is proven wrong, he accepts it and clarifies his new information in future videos. But that's not something you can call "generally", which implies he's wrong most of the time. There are things he says that I and others might "disagree" with, but that's usually something objective, interpretive or unprovable. In which case, it's not a matter of right or wrong. There is a reason he is treat like a peer amongst the medieval arms, armour and history communities.
      But by all means, provide multiple examples of him being indisputably wrong about something that he still asserts as fact to backup your implication of his being wrong so often.

  • @GoodVibes-nn6gb
    @GoodVibes-nn6gb 3 роки тому +32

    You can hear Lloyds grin when he says "So spears are better!"

  • @Dudeitsbrian
    @Dudeitsbrian 3 роки тому +4

    I never knew about the harmonic node on swords. That’s crazy. Makes sense though, any springy thing has natural harmonics and that’s where it’s the most tense and strong. Epic

  • @Isaac-LizardKing
    @Isaac-LizardKing 3 роки тому +38

    Lloyd’s imitation of reverberation is incredible

  • @randalhorselord
    @randalhorselord 3 роки тому +28

    The fact that the closed captions call the spadone "donut" tickled me more than it should...

    • @DPXerxes
      @DPXerxes 3 роки тому +1

      lmao, how insulting!

    • @Wendy_rileywen
      @Wendy_rileywen 3 роки тому +1

      the closed captioning thinks outrageous things are being said from time to time

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 3 роки тому +51

    the effective range of these is actually much broader than a person would think. they give you the opportunity to play range games with shorter weapons, but if you are up against polearms, the best play is to get inside their swing and beat them with geometry.

    • @alisaurus4224
      @alisaurus4224 3 роки тому +4

      You mean poke them with a protractor?

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 3 роки тому +1

      @@alisaurus4224 I
      mean swing the sword behind the spearshaft instead of hitting at it.

    • @alwaysbearded1
      @alwaysbearded1 3 роки тому +2

      @@alisaurus4224 Or whack them with a T square. I have one sword length.

    • @ostlandr
      @ostlandr 3 роки тому

      Agreed, if you're up against a spear/pole weapon, don't let them fight at their range or you're toast.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 3 роки тому

      @@ostlandr bad thing is when you get a guy who's really good with a pole weapon, they can surprise you.

  • @Gilbrae
    @Gilbrae 3 роки тому +19

    I had just watched the "HEMA vs Kung Fu" video, thinking it was a shame that the training of the cheerleaders in the background was not used to motivate the competitors, when suddenly, noticing that I had not watched this entire video, I came across this energetic and invigorating choreography for our duelists! Thank you mesdemoiselles for this refreshing participation ;) A question came to me at that moment ... Wouldn't the pompoms vigorously shaken by these young Ladies be a resurgence of those ribbons that the Ladies in the Middle Ages hung on the arms of their champions? Thank you for this very interesting quality video once again.

  • @Eclipsed_Archon
    @Eclipsed_Archon 3 роки тому +3

    I LOVE the style of this commentary! I need more of this!

  • @SAMSAMbI4
    @SAMSAMbI4 3 роки тому +352

    I like how the fighters immideately went way more brutal when the chicks appeared.

    • @ki-td5yb
      @ki-td5yb 3 роки тому +25

      *Manchurian Canidate Activated* As a former college male cheerleader, chill and focus.

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 3 роки тому +45

      Yep ..
      Everyone wants to show off in front of the girls..
      Lol.😏😉🤣

    • @georgeheld1901
      @georgeheld1901 3 роки тому +41

      I’m sure many battles had an increased pitch due to women being nearby

    • @allamaadi
      @allamaadi 3 роки тому +20

      Yeah they went into real fight mode then lol

    • @georgebaggy
      @georgebaggy 3 роки тому +25

      Male psychology lol

  • @zacharyelliott7161
    @zacharyelliott7161 3 роки тому +52

    I would watch anything that Lloyd narrates. Pure gold.

    • @omikron6218
      @omikron6218 3 роки тому +4

      I would never have watched that bull championship, if not for his narration.

    • @IamOutOfNames
      @IamOutOfNames 3 роки тому

      @@omikron6218 That was awesome, I still can't believe I watched the whole thing.

    • @zacharyelliott7161
      @zacharyelliott7161 3 роки тому

      @@IamOutOfNames Me to.

  • @wanderinghistorian
    @wanderinghistorian 3 роки тому +45

    I'm in love with the German swordlady.

  • @TheEpicPaco
    @TheEpicPaco 3 роки тому

    Lloyd is literally the only youtuber who’s ads are the best part of the video

  • @jigzo78
    @jigzo78 3 роки тому

    Best sword video I've seen. Those sweeping great sword demonstrations were really eye opening on how they'd be used and the kind of fighting they'd be used for. Really seems like the type of weapon you use to subdue peasant uprisings.

  • @BlarghMeow
    @BlarghMeow 3 роки тому +144

    I would assume it serves a dual function as a longsword, but also as a defense against light cavalry.

    • @definelogic4803
      @definelogic4803 3 роки тому +12

      Probably more so just a longer long sword.

    • @bharnden7759
      @bharnden7759 3 роки тому +44

      Cavalry my furry tookus. More better against punkazzes, miscreants, and other assorted booger-lickin'-morons.

    • @dragoonTT
      @dragoonTT 3 роки тому +14

      @@bharnden7759 Take ye hands of any degenerate with one wee swipe

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 3 роки тому +6

      @@bharnden7759 churls too.

    • @bharnden7759
      @bharnden7759 3 роки тому +6

      @@michelguevara151 methinks that be like another type of knave, well deserving of a splitting headache. Caused by splitting the head.
      Please forgive my bombastic reply, but I've yet to have my morning coffee this side of the pond. Two peoples separated by a common language, as Sir Winston once opined.
      Edit: the python whispers "Chulrish Knight"

  • @markdurham5062
    @markdurham5062 3 роки тому +91

    Time in Jill Bearup for the play by play.
    Love the fact that people are just walking by like two guys sword fighting is normal. Wait this IS Britain...

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 3 роки тому +5

      In Berlin (germany) hema fencers also practice in the cities parks.

    • @giovannivasquez9806
      @giovannivasquez9806 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah you’re way more likely to see a park shooting here in the states

    • @kmc7355
      @kmc7355 3 роки тому +1

      @@giovannivasquez9806 😂

    • @andyjarman4958
      @andyjarman4958 3 роки тому +8

      @@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis our immigrant chaps prefer machetes in city parks. Medieval swordplay is more a suburban pastime.

    • @robertcopp2411
      @robertcopp2411 3 роки тому +4

      British people have walked by two guys sword fighting for over 1,000 years.

  • @Jaytheradical
    @Jaytheradical 3 роки тому +83

    Yes, she has to do a lot of footwork to keep up that greatsword, but the 2d6 is really worth it.

    • @AI-ke9pp
      @AI-ke9pp 3 роки тому +11

      A man if culture

    • @azh698
      @azh698 2 роки тому +3

      I prefer the greataxe. 1d12 and 3x base crit multiplier.

  • @percy8712
    @percy8712 3 роки тому +1

    I'm sure I speak for many when I say that we all love your videos and would like to see more story videos. In particular your video on sir sidney Smith was very entertaining. Your such a great story teller and always are able to make even the most mundane of topics interesting such as your guide to medival transport.

  • @manofhealing
    @manofhealing 3 роки тому

    Every single time I think it will be a topic I won't be that interested in, but I click the video anyway and every single time I watch to the end completely invested

  • @hessuh2380
    @hessuh2380 3 роки тому +13

    "Ooh, clashy clash and stabby stab" 😂 Sir, you are an magnificent narrator 👏

  • @HerrJordel
    @HerrJordel 3 роки тому +79

    Yes! I was worried about lloyd not publishing in so long

    • @footrot17
      @footrot17 3 роки тому +6

      Once a month at the moment sadly.

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 3 роки тому +7

      @@footrot17 very true but it's all quality..
      But I'd prefer it more often too...😪

    • @majorhumbert676
      @majorhumbert676 3 роки тому +1

      He hasn't published his comic book yet, and it's been over 5 years and $155k of other people's money.

    • @fatherofdragons4880
      @fatherofdragons4880 3 роки тому

      @@majorhumbert676 exactly how long did he state it would take?

  • @LuxisAlukard
    @LuxisAlukard 3 роки тому +100

    For us, non-imperials:
    Spatha 83.82 cm
    Arnander 111.76 cm
    Longsword 119.38 cm
    Spadone 152.4 cm

    • @wendel5868
      @wendel5868 3 роки тому +46

      A civilized comment among all the barbarism.

    • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
      @MidlifeCrisisJoe 3 роки тому +2

      I don't know why you're making a metric joke. He didn't even give imperial measures. There were no objective measures whatsoever past "up to my armpit." I'd appreciate even imperial measures because then some conversions could be made. I have no idea where you're getting your measures from other than averages elsewhere on the internet. His examples were body part length on his own frame for which I don't know his height.

    • @LuxisAlukard
      @LuxisAlukard 3 роки тому +7

      @@MidlifeCrisisJoe I'm making metric jokes because Lloyd makes them. He did gave imperial masures at the very end of video, I just converted them. He's 6'3" (190.5cm) according to some guy on the interweb, but I also recall Lloyd saying his height to be somewhere around that number - so he's high. And using someone elses body for comparison isn't always good, because not all weapons he shows are made for him, so you can't be sure that ratio is good. I hope my English sounds good.

    • @LuxisAlukard
      @LuxisAlukard 3 роки тому +1

      @@wendel5868 Ah, a fellow intellectual, I see.

    • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
      @MidlifeCrisisJoe 3 роки тому +1

      @@LuxisAlukard I must've missed the part where he listed the measures. Probably to go down in the comments to complain about why he didn't list the measures. He didn't list them when he actually laid them out on the ground, which seems like it would have been the scene where it made the most sense to do so.
      Your English is great! Don't worry. The only mistake I noticed is that when you refer to someone's height, you wouldn't call them "high" but "tall." Saying someone is "high" means something else entirely.
      But thank you kindly.

  • @tauceti8341
    @tauceti8341 3 роки тому

    Lindy you friggin astonish me everytime.
    And I love it!
    What a fantastical little recording/review.
    Loved the way the opponents recorded their thoughts.
    I love listening to historical/modern accounts of historical fighting styles.

  • @Arch_Twisted
    @Arch_Twisted 3 роки тому +1

    23:38 * Mentions Crowd Control *
    Every gamer watching this: "You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention."

  • @shawkorror
    @shawkorror 3 роки тому +36

    Sooo, its between a longsword and greatsword in use/technique/practicality then. I suggest "right bastard sword" as a term, as it likely hits like one.

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange 3 роки тому +3

      A rightbastword? Personally I think combining the first half of greatsword and latter half of longsword would be preferable.

    • @richbob9155
      @richbob9155 3 роки тому +1

      @@pcarrierorange so greatsword then? Or do you mean grengssword?

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange 3 роки тому

      @@richbob9155
      greatɔword

  • @Ali123456owl
    @Ali123456owl 3 роки тому +25

    10:10 hahaha the cheer squad really motivated them

  • @johngough5109
    @johngough5109 3 роки тому +50

    Rather a random question, what is the definition of "wounded" in historical accounts? "Oooh, ouch that smarts", or "Heavens, my arms off"?

    • @CommanderJonny
      @CommanderJonny 3 роки тому +35

      Considering the state of medicine at the time, I'd say the former, followed by the latter...

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede 3 роки тому +12

      As far as I know, a wound is everything that does not stop bleeding by itself (exept those that stopped after bleeding out of course). So no minor surface scratches and such, only real cuts through the skin.
      Depending on the rules (first blood in this case), the wound gets invested if it is substantial enough to count (if not severe enough by simple watching of the secundants) or literally the first blood drawn by the weapon. But the rules changed over time very often back and forth and often where individual set rules.

    • @Brave_Sir_Robin
      @Brave_Sir_Robin 3 роки тому +7

      ‘Tis but a scratch

    • @Oberon4278
      @Oberon4278 3 роки тому +2

      @@Seelenschmiede Was there a point where the duelists would agree beforehand what the rules would be, rather than abiding by rules imposed externally?

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede 3 роки тому +4

      @@Oberon4278 depending on reagion and timeframe: one or the other. Was it an official duell or an unofficial? Was duelling forbidden? Was it seen as a honorable thing? Was it public? Was it secret? Etc. etc.
      There is no general fact about duelling other than most times it was a stupid thing.

  • @deadnoelle
    @deadnoelle 3 місяці тому

    Lloyd! It is so nice to see you again!

  • @syco1998
    @syco1998 3 роки тому +3

    Man i love this so much, trying out these things in a "realistic" setting is great. I just wish there would be a hema Club close by so i could dive into it myself. Thanks for the great Video!

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop 3 роки тому +7

    I like Shad's proposed categorisation. Bastard Sword (Small Longsword), Longsword, War Sword (Large Longsword), Greatsword.
    And I like how he proposes the cut off point for when a Longsword becomes a Greatsword should be:
    1. when you can no longer comfortably draw it from a scabbard on your hip.
    2. If you hold it out and let it rotate around (if it hits the floors its a Greatsword if it doesn't its a Large Longsword, AKA War Sword).
    3. When you can no longer comfortably reach past the tip with your other hand to grapple/grab.
    Also with a Greatsword you *have* to alter the types of swings you perform to avoid the ground and control the weight, often utilising more polearm techniques.

  • @UVtec
    @UVtec 3 роки тому +15

    Aaah, cheerleaders! You cannot have a medieval battle without them. I was hoping for recreation of maiden giving her handkerchief to her champion.

    • @vincencures
      @vincencures 3 роки тому +1

      A Knight's Tale (2001), on a budged.

  • @RoosterFloyd
    @RoosterFloyd 3 роки тому +58

    Dang, Lindy, you dropped that sword almost as well as a professional french swordsman.

    • @lawlerzwtf
      @lawlerzwtf 3 роки тому +16

      I know this is just playing into the popular internet joke, but my friend, it really only applies if the professional french soldier is holding a modern rifle. If you ever find yourself face to face against a professional french swordsman, well, you should start praying to whatever deity you believe in.

    • @phobics9498
      @phobics9498 3 роки тому +5

      @@lawlerzwtf not if he drops it first

    • @RoosterFloyd
      @RoosterFloyd 3 роки тому +9

      @@lawlerzwtf Yes yes, I was waiting for someone to point that out. I traded accuracy for easily understandable comedy.

    • @majorhumbert676
      @majorhumbert676 3 роки тому

      He dropped it as he drops his scam projects.

    • @lacarthcinclair5401
      @lacarthcinclair5401 3 роки тому +1

      @@lawlerzwtf That's always the gamble, isn't it? In the modern day, if someone draws a sword on you, there are two possibilities: They are a dweeb that watches too many movies, wielding a piece of garbage, or they know EXACTLY how to use it, and it's possibly an actual blade that will eviscerate you like it's the Crusades.

  • @itdobelikethat2858
    @itdobelikethat2858 3 роки тому +1

    10:17 the classic “girls are watching!” Strength

  • @jmlightning8045
    @jmlightning8045 2 роки тому

    Oh my God, why is this video so good. Like I think this is one of his best videos so far! Good work!
    The stuff on the workings of the sword after the discussion on how the sword works in the first place was so good. Especially the stuff with the reverberation and the center of balance. Like I never thought about it but it really does make sense and I seem b b like it fits with the videos you've seen from skallagrim but it's just never mentioned in such a direct way. I don't know but it's really cool.

  • @maxkronader5225
    @maxkronader5225 3 роки тому +15

    I was an active participant in the Society for Creative Anachronism for nearly twenty years; fought in at least thirty large events and countless small melees and fighter practices.
    Never once, in all that time, did a band of cheerleaders appear. What is your secret?
    😁

  • @genghiskhan6809
    @genghiskhan6809 3 роки тому +10

    On the bastard sword, I heard that it was balanced such that on foot, a knight uses it in two hands and on horseback, he can use it in one hand like a heavy cavalry saber with his other hand on the reigns.

    • @ColonelSanders17
      @ColonelSanders17 3 роки тому

      That's why I got ahold of one. It seems like it has more options than other blades. I need to get ahold of a buckler.

  • @marangatu3688
    @marangatu3688 3 роки тому +34

    I still patiently await "In search of Hannibal"

    • @beardedbjorn5520
      @beardedbjorn5520 3 роки тому +2

      Never going to happen man, unfortunately

    • @majorhumbert676
      @majorhumbert676 3 роки тому

      I'm not waiting any longer. I'm just here to be a pain in his arse, by spreading the truth about his despicable personality.

    • @marangatu3688
      @marangatu3688 3 роки тому +1

      He posted on Facebook that he'd make a Q&A on it shortly

    • @fatherofdragons4880
      @fatherofdragons4880 3 роки тому +2

      @@majorhumbert676 despicable personality? For taking his time? For being busy?

  • @FarrYaweh
    @FarrYaweh Рік тому

    Excellent video. Love when you post these in depth analysis

  • @bensul9979
    @bensul9979 3 роки тому

    this video was legendary, it was like a mix of all my favourite content from your channel

  • @yigarok
    @yigarok 3 роки тому +46

    Perhaps these larger swords would be good for guard duty where you only have a couple people guarding something who may be attacked by a larger group

    • @fadedjem
      @fadedjem 3 роки тому +16

      I can buy this. The bigger and more intimidating your weapon the less likely you are to have to use it. Plus on stationary guard duty the practicalities of carrying such a large and unwieldy side-arm are far less of a factor than for a civilian or a soldier on campaign.

    • @ndld4955
      @ndld4955 3 роки тому +6

      @@fadedjem yep..
      i think the main reason most on duty guards would have pole weapons (not a spear) is for the reason u explain..
      A big F U style weapon the doubles as a walking stick.. and can be used against may people.. (spear don't as well when your out numbers as pole weapons do.. u can basically swing the pole weapions axe part like the sword against multiple enemies) and a shorter secondary weapon as backup..
      Idk just my 2 cents 🤔

    • @toprak3479
      @toprak3479 3 роки тому +12

      SPIN
      TO
      WIN

    • @vendomnu
      @vendomnu 3 роки тому +6

      @@toprak3479
      You bastard - I was drinking when I read that!

    • @Brave_Sir_Robin
      @Brave_Sir_Robin 3 роки тому +3

      @@vendomnu lol

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi 3 роки тому +520

    A two handed sword should be called a zweihänder purely because , let's be real here , it sounds fucking cool

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 роки тому +6

      These zswei swords were only for duels and show off, basically a dead man weapon.

    • @baraka629
      @baraka629 3 роки тому +5

      This comment gets a 1¥

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 3 роки тому +65

      @@ommsterlitz1805 either your definition of the sword you're reffering to is VERY narrow, or you have no idea what you're talking about. Big two handed swords were implemented with the german landsknechts and also the swiss. They were usefull in creating and exploiting gaps in the enemies pike formation.

    • @BratacOfChulak
      @BratacOfChulak 3 роки тому +4

      Let’s just combine light and zweihänder
      Maybe a Leichtzweihänder

    • @BratacOfChulak
      @BratacOfChulak 3 роки тому +4

      @@ommsterlitz1805 they do decently against sabers in duels but for sure a spear or any sort of long weapon kills a sword unless you do a lot of work to work around ti

  • @edwardblair4096
    @edwardblair4096 3 роки тому +9

    In the "brigands" battle scene it has basically come down to a stalemate. Initially neither side can touch the other, so it will come down to who tires out, or makes a mistake, first. If the brigands can maintain small unit cohesion, they should be able to outlast their single opponent.

    • @keepermovin5906
      @keepermovin5906 3 роки тому +3

      But if you have buddies the brigands formation has been destroyed and you will have a much easier time at fighting them

    • @edwardblair4096
      @edwardblair4096 3 роки тому +3

      @@keepermovin5906 And if the brigands had buddies they could keep rotating in fresh men, while the swordsman doesn't have that option. The outcome of the battle will likely be determined by outside events.
      On the other hand, being able to maintain a stalemate in a 1 against 4 battle IS an accomplishment.

    • @Kishandreth
      @Kishandreth 3 роки тому

      A rock! I was thinking of how to defeat a man in full plate using area threats to keep people away. Have one guy pick up a brick or rather large rock and throw it at him. Should hit hard enough to disrupt the swordsman, and the crew can close in.

  • @alexandrzarezin7765
    @alexandrzarezin7765 3 роки тому +1

    Hi from Russia! Keep doing your amazing work! Your videos are inspiring and positive! You are a Brit I look up to big time!

  • @Inquisitor_Vex
    @Inquisitor_Vex 3 роки тому +1

    Top quality content! Huge shoutout to the girls for getting involved too!
    Great Courses Plus is dead,
    Long Live Wondrium!

  • @LeeAtkinson98
    @LeeAtkinson98 3 роки тому +18

    The real question, what did they say to get a hand full of cheerleaders to agree, unless they just happend to be in the area practicing

    • @anaussie213
      @anaussie213 3 роки тому +11

      Hello, would you like to be in a youtube video for a channel with over a million subscribers?

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 3 роки тому +5

      @Lee
      Another comment stated that Lindy had one of the Beige Scrolls at hand, which apparently have a Summon Cheerleaders effect.
      It has since been declared official lore.

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede 3 роки тому +5

      You can see them in the beginning training to the left of them, Lindy pans away from them

  • @SteveWhipp
    @SteveWhipp 3 роки тому +34

    "Surprisingly Whippy" Story of my life.

  • @GregTom2
    @GregTom2 3 роки тому +33

    Seeing the way this really long longsword behaves and the skirmish demonstration is giving me Dark Souls II PTSD flashbacks.

  • @thestateofdk
    @thestateofdk 3 роки тому +1

    I love your commentary and your videos. You’re a great content creator! The only thing I can criticize is that I wish you credited those cheerleaders - or at least the school they go to!

  • @RepAlbertThomas
    @RepAlbertThomas 3 роки тому +2

    This is a fantastic and most interesting video. Such are all your videos, sir. I have been a fan and subscriber for many years and I believe you are top tier UA-cam content, and I return to you often because I believe you deliver an honesty on historical subjects the history channel cannot. That said, I love the Mandeville march. I listen to it when I’m drunk and victorious. I just spent a whole pound to listen to it on bandcamp, or what-have-you, and for some reason beyond my understanding I still cannot. Please, if you are capable of doing so, make this fantastic music available on UA-cam once again. I’m a combat veteran and now a 34 year old pizza delivery driver and need all the victories I can get... if that makes any difference at all...

  • @MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT
    @MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT 3 роки тому +5

    Fantastic. LindyBeige always brightens my day.

  • @benGman69
    @benGman69 3 роки тому +14

    "Give us yer gold!" 😆

  • @anotherone6713
    @anotherone6713 3 роки тому +8

    “Mario, how do we call this strange light claymore?”
    *”BIG ASS SWORD.”*

  • @khalindras7189
    @khalindras7189 3 роки тому +1

    The montante in a civil setting, asside from bodyguards, was mostly used by the arms master ("maestro de armas" in spanish, don't really know if there's a specifict term in english) mostly when their trainees were getting a litttle too hot headed when dueling/sparring to break in-between then before the scolding, it was a safety measure.
    If i remember right, from what i've been told, it was also used as a way to teach trainees how to use their body while using a weapon. Thanks to the dimensions and weight of the montante, it serve as a way to teach the body how to move in the correct way, because to actually employ the weapon it is actually necessary to learn how to move your body as a whole to use it effectively. This meant that the trainees could transfer this knowledge they had gain on how to actually use their body over when using other different weapons. Basically how they teached byomechanics back in the day or sth allong those lines.

  • @gunnarhoegnison6392
    @gunnarhoegnison6392 3 роки тому +1

    As always, a very well informed video; I would love to see more about antik weapons and how they would have been used!

  • @Brave_Sir_Robin
    @Brave_Sir_Robin 3 роки тому +4

    17:51 ARNANDER! When the world needed her most, she hath returned

    • @_Mentat
      @_Mentat 3 роки тому

      Yes, but Arnander isn't a girl's name. Arnander was her surname.

  • @user-ii5im7zm2t
    @user-ii5im7zm2t 3 роки тому +4

    Hrm, yes. That spadone, for a man of your height and mine, is about a foot short of being properly considered a great sword. You can also tell because the quillions would be a bit wider.

  • @valasarius
    @valasarius 3 роки тому +10

    Can we please acknowledge that Lloyd has brought two cameraman on purpose of ,,hitting'' one of them?

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman 3 роки тому

    I had no idea Wondrium was The Great Courses Plus. That's neat.
    Swords are very neat. I love the sword videos. Thanks.

  • @Amar-wg6xp
    @Amar-wg6xp 3 роки тому

    I've been watching your videos. You taught me more history than all my teachers combined