Microsoft Kills Wordpad
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2024
- In this video I discuss how Microsoft is killing off wordpad to try and force people into buying Microsoft office in order to edit documents on windows. Don't do this, install libreoffice writer instead.
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I really don't know how someone can edit simple text documents without a subscription-based software license and a constant internet connection that definitely isn't used to spy on you. If it didn't benefit us, why would Microsoft want us to use Office so bad?
I dont think you need a constant internet connection
To make more money, gotta please the shareholders.
@@bluemetal04606*stakeholders
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Microsoft Word should just be free to use on Windows if they're seriously going through with this. I don't understand why something so basic and fundamental to using a computer should be behind a paywall in the first place.
It already is, the offer the iOS/Android/Windows 10 Mobile version of Microsoft Office for free on the Microsoft Store or via Winget I think. Sure it's not the original Win32 commercial-version of Word but it's good enough for most people.
They also made outlook free when they stopped developing the free mail app, the problem?
They forced you to switch, opening the mail app would just rediect you to outlook + there's an ad that looks like an unread email always at thd top of your inbox
They took away the video editor, The easy to use snipping tool. They downgraded the Photo App and hid it, and now Word pad. Pay up and buy Cloud or your computer will be useless.
MS wants you to use Cloud MS office suite.
Making full, fat, Word free on Windows, but not other OSs sounds like grounds for a slamdunk anti-trust lawsuit. Which is why Office Mobile exists.
Wordpad has been deprecated in favour of Candy Shadow Legends of Crush.
LOL
Is that game free2play pay2win? Can it run with a 1080ti? Do I need credit card to install?
@@xxxJ30Nxxx 😂😂😂
Royale!
the monstrous amount of money Microsoft makes from selling people a minimally updated text program that still has the same oddball quirks since 2007 is baffling.
Billy G is a genius at legally swindling...
Their CEO Sad Nutella just keeps approving ways to make every MS product worse.
office 2007 is still the best version tbh, the ribbon became really bloated and useless after the first iteration
I been using the same exploits since Win95. Worked on a Win11 rig I fixed Sunday. It had them Wild Tangent games, easy fix.
Wrong. The search function saved Office
@@doltBmB True, right? I still keep using a 2007 copy that I have on CD and never had any trouble with it :) Also it doesn't have the ugly oversimplified design which is one of those small things you really appreciate
Its over. Windows has fallen. Billons must switch
For fucks sake twittergod youll never be a soy
YEAR OF LEENOOX DESKTOP
@@ainzooalgown9952 skull
Xandillionaires must follow
Xandillionaires must follow
Fun fact: .docx is a zip file containing a very precisely laid out set of text files that are actually XML files, and you can find the document's text in there. If you just want to read a standard word text file, you don't actually need Office. ;'D
Yeah, but then you're trying to sift through XML by hand at that point? Hmm, maybe I should see how much XML tags take up in the data vs the actual content.
Underrated comment here,
I say it's criminal that nobody told me about this earlier
@@supercellodudei bet a small script could read through it quickly and append all the needed text
also, almost every other document file works this way....
open documents (.odt-p-g) and rest of mc office too.
this is great way to extract images
Same for all modern Office document formats. Unzip a random .xlsx file with 7-zip for another illustration.
Google up Francesca Gino for a recent example of how unzipping an Excel file led to a Harvard professor getting caught red-handed manipulating data.
You can't just write a simple document.
You need to be connected to the internet,
you need a paid subscription,
you need Windows operating system,
you need Microsoft net framework,
directx 15,
a mouse,
keyboard,
8 gigabytes of ram,
4 gigabytes of video memory,
discrete graphics card,
a 10 gigabit speed ssd,
latest windows update,
a password,
an email,
a phone with a working phone number,
a phone subscription,
quad core processor 64bit.
Just to write a word document.
Edit: Didn't expect this to blow up. Yes the actual issue is more complicated then this and there are free alternatives. My point is that in modern times; to write a simple document there's many things required now that were not required in the past.
You forgot the buzzword :AI. AI assisted word processing, AI assisted research, AI powered grammar checker, AI powered ideology detector etc etc.
Back in the day all you needed was a potato with 5 kb of ram and 100 hz processor. The fact that something as basic as writing a document has been obfuscated to this level. And companies believe this is the future means society is going to collapse due to extreme bloatation.
@@GroguemanIn the future you will need a quantum computer super AI system to display a single pixel on your Newtonian Microsoft computer. (that's also connected to the cloud)
blud how u wanna write a document without a keyboard 💀
Libre office is a fine replacement, even on windows
Can confirm. Games are the only reason I'm still using windows. Without that I'd have long since switched to linux.
Well, I have good news for you.
Like 99% of games already work on Linux.
I been daily driving Linux for 2 months now and of the roughly ~30 games I tried, every single one worked. Only 4 had issues. And only 2 were non fixable with tinkering
Proton works well and is built in to steam. I haven't come across any issues yet, and some games even run better on linux through proton.
I think some people have issues with anticheat for online games but there are probably workarounds. I don't play any of those games so I don't know
Proton works well and is built in to steam. I haven't come across any issues yet, and some games even run better on linux through proton.
I think some people have issues with anticheat for online games but there are probably workarounds. I don't play any of those games so I don't know
@@affegpus4195 That's not 100% and I don't want the risk of switching fully and finding out a game I want to play doesn't work or performs badly. Plus I'm a game dev and it's noticeably easier to do that on windows.
More games work properly in Linux than Windows. Many older games have more issues on Windows, and only a select few newer games have issues on Linux.
I love how windows technically is Linux's advertiser now.
Normies don't view it that way. Normies would rather switch to Mac.
@@streettrialsandstuff sad but tru
Always has been
Linux is the third way
Normies will switch to whatever brainrot is the alternati-
Apple, they'll switch to using MACs
@@streettrialsandstuff Some people just don't want the side hussle to tinker with it. I use Linux but I took a day off uni just to patch my audio and gpu drivers because they were just not working. Now will anyone who doesn't know how these stuff work become a normie just because they can't do these and they want to have an audio input on their device(something I did not have out of the box working when I installed Debian)? I don't think so. Using Linux doesn't make you special.
Without word pad windows has no native way to read rtf files. This sucks
There's gotta be countless office workers and third world win users who will protest this right?
They can't even play most videos either. A basic Windows computer is several dozen dollars away from fully functional in the way they used to be.
@@RobinTheBotCharging 99 cents for H265 playback is just a sock in the face for users.
@@OrangeYTTisn’t there a workaround?
ffmpeg (ffplay) maybe?
8:55, Your description of Microsoft creating a proprietary file extension format, finding a way to monopolize it as the standard across the board, and then shove everyone into the boat to pay money for it; REALLY reminds me of Cory Doctorow's DEFCON speech of "Enshittification".
An extension is just a dot with the extension name
Its used by windows to associate what programs should run them
DOCX is just a zip file btw with xmls inside of it
@@natsudragneelthefiredragon Just because it's a zip with a bunch of xml files doesn't mean a zip with a bunch of xml files is a valid microsoft word document.
@@ra2enjoyer708 Doesn't mean you can't just open it and investigate the format for various purposes.
en-POOP-ification indeed
Let's not forget MS silently deprecated stock Calendar and Mail app to replace it for Outlook, just to display ads in it.
I use notepad, can't recall the last time I used wordpad. I would use openoffice before using wordpad. I've got three notepad files open atm.
notepad gang 🤝
Notepad++ gang rise up
As a nano user, I'd take notepad any day over vim.
wordpad is nice if you want to write a small note/document, but dont want to miss on simple text formatting. using an office suite for these tasks is kinda overkill imo
@@Skelterbane69 I am in a constant limbo of wanting to learn vim but also not wanting to commit to learn vim :D Nano FTW
this is exactly how I feel about .PDF.
.PDF is the standard for any documents you're expected to fill out.
Are you broke and applying for your first job? fill out this proprietary .pdf file, and e-sign your name at the bottom..
what?! how?! what do I use? im broke and don't have a PC, that's why I'm applying for this job.. can my phone do it? Adobe Acrobat is $20 PER MONTH?
Even computer savvy people can't easily fill out, let alone sign a .PDF. and when someone sends my parents one to fill out? forget it.
How we let a proprietary closed standard with astronomical pricing become the default for....TEXT of all things is beyond me..
You don’t need adobe to fill out a pdf. Just a browser extension with the pen tool. Done it a couple times by now. If you are not computer savvy or don’t have a computer you got this free place called the library. 1 print of pdf 2 fill out by hand 3 scan back in 4 send. And there is probably someone there that can help you if you need it.
@@myheroskryptonite i don't think i've ever seen a library with free prints, but i'll admit in the last 20+ years i've only ever visited state and university libraries and i don't really remember what my local public library was like.
What's proprietary about PDF? There's plenty of software that can sign PDFs and most of it is free.
Have you ever used acrobat? you can sign, mark comment documents for free. You only need to pay for editing documents.
please tell me you didnt pay $20 to sign a doc…
They're also ending the Mail app and trying to make everyone switch to Outlook which constantly shows an ad in the first email slot and mucks around how it works in a way that (last I checked) can't be customised. Confused the heck outta my mum when they pushed her onto it until I found the button to change back. It's bad enough trying to turn everything into an ad/subscription service, but forcing it onto people without asking first???
I've never actually used the mail apps, always using my browser for whatever email im looking at
@@chrissametrinequartz9389 it's a handy way to keep track of multiple email accounts
yeah ive been getting the annoying notification for that when I open mail, thankfully winaero seems to be blocking it from updating
How do i get win aero… I want to keep the old mail app too
My grandad has an old email address which worked in the mail app and doesn’t in the Outlook one (it only supports modern common ones such as Gmail). He didn’t want to use the email in browser, so I got him thunderbird instead, luckily it has support. Thank you Mozilla!
Teeny flex: The first text editor I remember using is the MS-DOS edit command.
No edlin nightmares then ?
Think edit came along in MSDOS 5.0 and before that ... boy times were tough !
@@fiskcakehamster copy con FTW ;-)
@@fiskcakehamsterI think I still have nightmares to this day of edlin, wow, how much I loathed that editor. Edit was a godsend when they released that, especially when you had to constantly edit and tweak your autoexec.bat and config.sys files to squeeze a few more bytes out of conventional memory, LOL!
You call that a flex :P
Wasn't MS-DOS edit derived from (or otherwise closely related to) QBasic?
Those were good times.
ive used wordpad since i was young and on my moms computer typing my autistic ramblings of a story, it has a special place in my heart and is still what i use when im on windows as i refuse to use word [refusal to use microsoft office was something ive always had just because it annoyed me when they had licensing stuff i just wanna type goddamit]. seeing "will be removed in a future version of windows" is heartbreaking, though im sure it will still be available for download on the web for windows if i ever need it.
Then we just copy the binaries of it. You can still run programs from Windows NT 3.0 because Microsoft doesn't break backwards compatibility.
@@redwater-qb9xz yes i use libreoffice on linux, i just dont have an attachment to it cause i never used linux on my own computer till recently
@@obinator9065 yeah i mentioned im sure i can find it online anyway. it still sucks though
Not all of them. Some preinstalled apps rely on some registry stuff or old components so it takes a bit of effort and research to run them. You can't just run the win7 preinstalled game binaries, you need to set them up properly first
@@obinator9065Windows kernel still "same"
Many professions require the use of proprietary software that only runs on Windows. There is no fundamental reason why they must run on Windows, but that is the status quo, just like gaming. It is in this way that Windows is considered the OS that is most suited to productivity: it is viable in the greatest number of professions.
Yeah, I could see it like, a decade ago, but writing reasonably portable code nowadays seems very viable
@@user-sl6gn1ss8p Go ahead and convince the suits that it's worth the dev time (aka money). Good luck.
One reason for this is historically Windows was very good for this sort of thing. They had good API documentation, they took the approach of never breaking things. APIs would be carefully versioned and Windows had compatibility shims in place. It was a great platform to target because of compatibility. With the new approach of move fast and break stuff, it really isn't any better than Linux or MacOS where you have to re-write your application every few years.
No one in high performance computing uses windows. We run linux. Linux actually is everywhere, on your phone, tablet, Mac etc. I keep a virtual machine around for clients who need some crap software to run on windows but that's it. If I need to produce a technical document I use LaTex and a front end for it such as Lyx.
Word can't do anything I need very easily, such as beautiful typeset Math, automatic labeling and cross referencing, the ability to download a citation from the web and incorporate with cross references using the desired format with a click of a button. Word is an abomination IMHO. FYI Word online is absolutely useless. Don't use it. If you paste a figure in it compresses it to become unreadable whether you like it or not.
But if you must use microsoft, you can install ubuntu or Mint using the linux subsystem for windows. That helps a little.
@@SevenThunderful I gave up the fight against MS Word early in my career. There is more than just LaTex, there is XSL-FO and CSS for print too. But I have to communicate with management and co-workers who would be confused without Word.
Wordpad was introduced with Windows 95, replacing Microsoft Write, both of them were for the purpose of handling rich-text documents at a basic level and be a gateway for Word, while offering some Word document compatibility for people like young Mental Outlaw.
Interestingly, software pirates also liked it because it also could open regular text files, but unlike Notepad, it displayed them in a monospace font out of the box, so they opened .nfo files with it, at least in the early 2000s. I bet they use Notepad++ nowadays...
Oh yeah, I remember MS Write, when using Windows 3.1 / 3.11. I almost forgot it existed. Oh yeah, and Paintbrush too.
I used notepad and I loved notepad++ back when I still used Windows 😅. Good times, sadly couldn't convince people that notepad++ was all they needed
Pretty sure Wordpad was just a new name for Write, nothing ever changed until they added those really necessary (sarcasm) Ribbons to it.
I was such a pro pirate, I used "DAMN NFO viewer"
@@CathrineMacNiel No, Write used a different codebase and was 16-bit only. There were also Atari ST and Mac versions of Write.
This is likely a move in context of push toward subscription models. Wordpad was a viable alternative to word in certain limited contexts. I can 100% imagine a free windows 12 (with added telemetry, especially with the move away from cookies) and having a premium subscription for office + AI co-pilot features
They are working on monthly paid remote desktop windows designed tl replace the installed os.
Sure this will flop so hard. But that's what Microsoft thinks is the future.
@@redcrafterlppa303 This is the first time in my life i've gotten a job where I can work from home using remote desktop please say sike rn
@@Felish5397 do you mean sorry? Why should I say sorry. I'm not against remote desktop. I like it a lot. But I refuse to believe that remoting into a Microsoft hosted Windows I pay monthly is the future of *home* computing.
Windows development was literally recently taken over by Microsoft’s services team the push for this stuff is practically guaranteed to get even more annoying in Windows 12 can’t wait lol.
Is there a way to completely disable the telemetry in Windows 10, or it's futile?
Notepad++ ftw.
You... People like you still exist?
WordPad felt cozy tho...
Regex search and replace is f'n magic
Notepadqq you mean
nah, just win support.
My story is a lot like yours! When we started typing assignments in middle school, I used WordPad. I think I had heard of Word, and when I searched for Word on my computer, WordPad also came up. It didn't tell me I had to activate it the way Word did, so I used it! Having software to write and print rich text documents preinstalled on the machine and simple enough for a child to find and use was so great and it's a damn shame they're taking it away for essentially no reason.
FYI I just checked--WordPad DOES allow insertion of images!
Libre office is the chad of document editing suites. I even worked on restriction maps with writer and it worked like a charm. The feature set in regards to marking up text is just as extensive as in word.
One small thing, The Office Open XML format that Microsoft Office uses isn't actually proprietary it's an open standard, ISO/IEC 29500-1:2016; that's how Libreoffice, Google Docs, etc are able to open and save in those formats. The reason that there's incompatibility is that ironically Microsoft Office breaks the standard.
It also saves to .doc which is proprietary. Libreoffice reverse engineered it.
@@blisphul8084 It _can_ save in .doc but it almost forces you to save in .docx over .doc
Such a nostalgija hit, i almost cried, how life was better back then friends... thank yu
I first shouted "NOOOOOOO!!!!", but then remembered that I had completely forgotten about Wordpad for the last 20 years and that it was an absolutely garbage "low cost" alternative to MS Word.
@@thecollector6746 Said no regular user ever
@@DonaldDucksRevenge I remember back in the day when I was a lowly support drone, and one of the departments I supported was mad at me because they didn't have MS Word installed on their boxes. I had absolutely no control over such matters and just blithely waved my hand and told them to either purchase a license or use WordPad. I to this day am amazed I didn't get lynched based on the look they gave me after that suggestion.
Wordpad is kill. No.
dorito
no
No
That's why I left windows 2 years ago, they stay removing features that we ALL USE. It was a constant fight of restoring all the apps they removed
I still use Office 2003. "Nooo you need to upgrade". Nah, I'm good fam.
Office 2007 was the peak.
@@PrekiFromPoland My opinion is 2003 is peak for classic, 2010 is peak for modern. 2010 did to 2007 what 7 did to Vista, and doesn't have all the ugly UI and online integration of newer versions.
This is nothing guys, wait and see Windows 12 - you will need minimum 16 GB of RAM for it and it will have an AI assistant which will be fed all your data. It's unreal how much Microsoft is tryharding to kill Windows at this point. I really despise Microsoft as a company, I think now they don't even take into account what people actually want from their OS. Even gaming is now possible mostly on Linux and older games work better than on Windows 11 and a lot of newer ones work better even with Wine/Steam Proton running in the background. Amount of bloat/spyware in Windows must be insane for this to actually happen. I also predict they will include built in ads/a monthly subscription for the OS too.
won't be a subscription to use the OS. Microsoft relies on the ubiquity of windows, which is ensured through its pre-installation on PCs and complimentary usage.
I hate to be an asshole, but it was pretty funny hearing you say how games work on Linux 😂 with varying levels of functionality. Yes, games work on Linux
I switched over to Linux about 3 months ago when reinstalling windows for the first time in years and it wouldn't let me set up my user account without first logging into a Microsoft account. First time I had seen this and instantly went fuck you and drove over to a mate place to download a Linux distro onto a USB. I have not looked back and am slowly convincing my friends to make the switch too
@@haomingli6175they are literally publicly experimenting with a monthly paid streaming version of windows aiming to replace the installed os.
Look into it it's ridiculous.
It already has built in ads.
It's so sad since finally MS Paint and Notepad are getting the updates they've been needing and then some. MS Paint now has Layers, a Remove Background Option, and a beta AI tool just like photoshop. If only WordPad got the same experience. Sometimes you don't want to load up Word, WordPad was just simple and loaded quicker or simple jobs.
Ms paint got ai generation?!?! What the standard paint application on windows??
Yeah, but I think it is only on Windows 11@@pivotgodxd
@@pivotgodxd yes, Microsoft has redeveloped the old Paint from scratch and is increasingly expanding this application and its functions. The same applies to other standard applications that have been included in Windows for many years (decades). The main thing is to finally get rid of the old stuff and create more consistency.
prefer old paint. i can't even minimize the chunky bloated headers anymore.
WordPad is literally Microsoft Word, but with a bunch of less features.
Wordpad was a saviour when you ran into a file with Unix line endings (CR) instead of windows (CR LF), wordpad was able to display the CR as a linebreak whereas notepad would ignore it and put the whole document on one line. I think recent releases of windows have added support for Unix line endings in notepad.
I was always under the (potentially generous) mindset of MS Word was the premium, feature-rich document editor and Wordpad was the lightweight "it'll do in a pinch" editor if you didn't pay for Word. And that sounded fair.
But now Microsoft doesn't even want to give us that. It's now raw text editing or our $160 document editor. Also, that $160 is only good for a single device and no other Office Suite tools. Not unless you want the subscription.
Or libreoffice
@@thewhitefalcon8539 Even as a LibreOffice user, I will still only run LibreOffice when I actually NEED to use its advanced functionality. For basic text editing, I will preferentially load WordPad over LibreOffice, _because_ it's such a lightweight editor. No long startup times, splash/welcome screens, etc...
All you need is the executable, a language file, and maybe the search filter dll. It would be cool if they added WordPad to winget or the "Windows Features" thing.
Microsoft Office, and to a lesser extent, Wordpad, haven't been worth using for a while now anyways. Im not surprised Microsoft wants to kill Wordpad to sell Office 365 subscriptions.
I usually use LibreOffice for all of my documents, and then anything that specifically requires a plaintext editor goes straight to Notepad++.
Windows Notepad is almost a developer steps-after-hello-world demo. It's an editor widget with some menus to open and save the editor widget's buffer to disk.
WORDPAD is the Windows 95 Rich Text widget, but with the ability to save to winword6 format. Why Word 6.0 and not any later version? Because when it was created, it was a lightweight built-in word document editor to help cement Microsoft Office for Windows as THE office suite and to finally kill off competitors like Word Perfect for WIndows, AmiPro, and other sometimes better programs. It worked.
But once it had done what it was required to do, Wordpad was a competitor for Word for people who truly didn't need more than what WordPad offered them. Word97 changed the .doc format and unless you knew to save your document with Word 6 compatibility, it might not open right in WordPad!
That editor widget is still in Windows. It would be really cool if some Windows dev recreated WordPad-possibly with the ability to open later versions of .doc, but defaulting to save in odt, with Word 6.0/WordPad being an alternate save format. Nothing more, just a lightweight and hopefully low-maintenance replacement for WordPad. One exists for Paint, after all.
if it can open docx, isn't that 'later version'? and it offers saving to odt
My first text editor was EDLIN in DOS. This was eventually replaced by DOS Editor. I also recall writing school reports in Microsoft Word for DOS, though I do not recall the version anymore.
wordbros... it's over...
Can you please elaborate what do you mean...😅
Microsoft will do everything except for including a hex editor with Windows. I’m still a diehard notepad user tho
Word isn't a word editor but a word processor.
What's the going rate for cabins in the woods
Oh man! Wordpad was the last reason I had to use Windows.... Linux it is. !!!FBG!!!
Is this a serious comment? When I used Windows, whenever I opened Wordpad it was mistake and I wanted to use something else, but Wordpad was the default for some reason.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 No. Just trollin, trollin trollin.
@@jwdorythey see me trollin’ they hatin’
@@riffdex Yeah buddy😂👍
#FBG 🫃🏻
the most basic thing to use because its too easy thats why they getting ridding of it
msword had such an aggressive auto correct/complete BS it was a pain editing stuffs so definitely liked the wordpad
At least autocorrect is a toggle....
It probably wasn't autocorrect so maybe I'm missing a term. The things just didn't want to go to places where I put them or how I intended to, basically. even after I unchecked them all in the settings.
I heavily suspect it’s running on ai. Consistently recommends nonsensical changes and doesn’t correct real spelling and grammatical errors. Finally had to turn it off after it repeatedly changed a proper noun every time I typed it without asking me
Funny enough your runescape anecdote hit me hard. I was the same way - a little game called asheron's call essentially taught me how to type. trying to play that game and typing with two fingers didn't fly, and I adapted quickly and just figured it out. couldn't exactly dodge projectiles and talk to your group at the same time otherwise.
I was in middle school and learning to type, I was a bit slow at it but I began playing runescape when a friend mentioned it. Within a month I was typing 80WPM perfectly lol
@@escapetherace1943 heh yeah, I got really fast. I don't quite home-keys it (sitll don't quiite do it) but I type faster than most people I know and I guess I can safely say it was the one thing MMOs did for me.
@@terence7009 so many of us learned typing on mmos it's unreal! Gotta say it was way better than learning at school. also I gave up typing each key with a certain finger like they tried to teach us, I just use whatever fingers naturally went for the keys over time and got comfortable typing my own way.
Actually you can insert images into wordpad, its what I use to capture alot of error reports on windows. I have to work in a windows environment and when I get an error I need to document it I first go to wordpad, since it will take screen shots and clippings and will fire up about 50x faster than Word. I also use it to start alot of documents that will eventually end up in a Word doc simply because it's faster than Word and has mostly everything I need. If it had a spell checker I'd never open Word again, or at least I wouldn't have before this news. Word is the king of bloat ware. My first computer was a Gateway 486/66 with WIndows 3.11 and a copy of MS Office (version 4 or 5) and I swear it would open its version of Word and run it 10x faster than my current work i7 computer with Office 365. And every feature in Word 365 that has been added in the 30 years between these two releases I have no need for.
As someone who uses WordPad mostly for creative writing, I know if it included a wordcounter I would probably never boot up LibreOffice Writer ever again.
The second that wine gets good enough to rival windows preformance, windows is dead. The only reason it will still be used is by unkowing consumers, and corperations that are stuck in contracts.
For games at least, proton is crazy good
I used wordpad way back in 2015-16 to modify Besiege wheel and spring values by opening the machine's save file in WordPad, and was close to my first experience with even looking at code. Fond memories!
Before Wordpad there was Write. RIP Write. :) And now RIP Wordpad.
1:32 It's me! (in the "licensed to" section) :D
Lol
Amazing you're THERE ! 🎉🎉🎉
When I touch any windows system I feel the ick
I was looking for work at the other day. The simplicity of the program makes it more comfortable to start essays or to be a good old notepad to brainstorm ideas. It's still essential.
At this point I have already switched to Linux, specifically Mint, in which I installed Office 2010 through Wine and works flawlessly.
I knew this was coming that's why I dropped Windows six years ago. It has taken me all this time to prepare myself for the awful news.
When I first heard that wordpad existed I knew this day would come, so I never used it to save myself the pain.
When I first heard that wordpad existed I knew this day would come, so I never used it to save myself the pain.
When I first heard that wordpad existed I knew this day would come, so I never used it to save myself the pain.
When I first heard that wordpad existed I knew this day would come, so I never used it to save myself the pain.
When I first heard that wordpad existed I knew this day would come, so I never used it to save myself the pain.
I got Office 2019 though a student discount. They still make a non-subscription (and offline) version of Office. Can get it cheap though certain websites like G2A, but that's obviously a gray area. I would rather use LibreOffice on Linux, but when I go look at its DOCX (or any other MS office file format) on Microsoft Office, it's all messed up, even when I use the Microsoft fonts. That's an issue if you have to send files to someone else, who is likely not using LibreOffice.
Yeah i have that issue with LibreOffice too. The formatting sucks. I find some luck with google drive to word conversions though.
They attach a ton of caveats with that one-time paid version. I remember reading the terms thinking I wanted to get a copy myself just incase (before I knew about LibreOffice), and they said something about not getting updates past 5 years? So it's obvious they can just swap terms and force you to buy it again.
As for the libreoffice issue, tbh, if you really want someone to read a doc in an official setting and they don't need edit permissions, just print to PDF.
You can change Libre office to natively save as Microsoft readable files in you're in a multi operating system office. I've never had trouble with opening a document ever after setting that.
Just pirate it
I remember when wordpad added support for .doc, it was a big deal as before it could only do .txt and.rtf files. I bet there was a huge fight internally over that, or if it was a random rouge dev that just added to the .doc support in their own and I wasn't noticed till shipped.
Thanks for the memories. I remember using Apache OpenOffice to get around this limitation.
Can't believe somebody else had the same struggle with doc files between Word and Wordpad
This made me think - unless I need to write an official document with pretty formatting, I really only use Markdown. I don't think I've opened Writer in months.
I haven't opened LibreOffice Writer in ... _years,_ by now?
I remember using WordPad in College because I already had to pay for the Adobe Creative Suite and my source of income was a minimum wage job at the movie theater, I didn't want to blow all of my money on subscription services and have nothing saved up for any unexpected expenses, like when my laptop was being held together with glue and tape.
School kept using us to use Microsoft Word because, "It's the professional standard and we need you to know how to use it!" I just did everything through Wordpad to save money. The school was already doing everything it could to take every penny we had, I wasn't about to pay for that.
Aye nice video. Tho can you use a de-esser if you can? The s sounds in the video are bursting my ears. Cheers, have a nice day!
My New Year's resolution is using Arch Linux only, even for gaming, so far it works.
nice work on all the b roll
Interestingly enough, your channel got me much more curious about Linux back in 2021, and I've been using Fedora as my daily driver since 2022. I have Windows for games and literally nothing else. My laptop with Fedora gets used a lot more.
Point being, I'm so happy this isn't a problem and likely to be much less of one in the Linux landscape.
Not to be too sappy, but I have you to thank for that. Started with Ubuntu (like most), switched to Fedora, and also teaching myself Kali on the side via VM.
Big Tech is literally trying to remove ownership so people have to rely on them as services.
This is just another brick removed in that wall between consumer autonomy and the provider.
Don't even remember the last I used Wordpad or indeed ever using it for more than reading the ocassional readme file (RTF or DOC). I've always used Libreoffice to work with MS Word files for a long time now. But even that's just casual documents. For serious work I either use Google Docs (for the collaboration features) or HTML or LaTeX for writing documents for publication.
VBScript as well is gonna be a prob for companies. Tons I've worked for, to do basic scripting especially cross applications like Excel/Word, VBScript was the go to for any not in the development department. If they remove VBScript it's going to break TONS of internal office functionality and automation scripts around the world.
Probably cannot/wouldn't do it for existing versions. In theory it would be for future versions.
This is why I write all my novels in Markdown and LaTeX
This will definitely affect me when/if I go to the library to use their computer/printer. RTF was my go to format when changing between computers.
Totally agree with you! Have been using libre office for a year now and never went back to Microsoft word again XD
Vim - a text editor
Emacs - an operating system
noooooooooooooo
An issue that people often do not bring up is that these alternative programs will fail to properly save the file in docx format, resulting in abnormalities across programs. I would not put it past Microsoft to implement changes that would intentionally cause problems for other programs when reading/saving documents from third party applications.
Wordpad got me through high school. Not as barebones as Notepad, and not as feature rich as MS Word. It had just enough features so you could do your assignments.
My problem with Windows is that cad software normally only works on Windows
Yep! Only reason I haven't swapped to Linux. I keep Fusion 360 open almost all the time so dual booting isn't even an option.
Have you tried FreeCAD yet? If you haven't, don't. It is one of the most horribly designed programs I've ever seen. It makes the old, old blender UI look modern. Then you have the topological naming problem which basically made the program not a parametric modeler.
@@SirSpence99 Nah, I'm running Altium, Solidworks, LTSpice, MATLAB, microchip studio and other such CAD and IDE software. And it either doesn't have linux support, runs badly on linux or its alternatives doesn't fit what I need.
Atleast I can have a linux laptop just fine.
@@AbyssalArray Sounds about right. I'm personally a fan of the timeline that Fusion uses as opposed to the feature tree of solidworks as it lets you have more control over order of operations which is kind of a pita in solidworks to manage.
If Fusion ran on Linux and wasn't almost entirely cloud based, it in its current form would be my forever modeler. As it stands I occasionally look for alternatives but have yet to find one that works as well.
fr like what if some stuff isn't compatible on Linux
I can't count how many times i've heard "The only reason I use windows is gaming". That really is all it has going for it right now. And I know about proton and wine, but not everything is compatible. Other than gaming, you can do everything else on Linux. Or any other OS, for that matter. HaikuOS is getting pretty stable these days too.
Gaming, game dev and parametric modeling. Options exist to make those work in Linux but they are all either massive downgrades, fiddly or such awful pieces of software that 'technically' have the same features but practically don't. (FreeCAD)
The immense and incredible inertia of transitioning away from Windows at Fortune-sized companies, is indescribable. Maybe Windows will fade from home use in 20 years. But it'll live on in the corporate world, kind of like how IBM mainframes and Oracle servers remain.
@@Avo7bProject normies don't give a shit about linux. The only threat to windows are macbooks.
My favorite Microsoft text editor was the old dos edit.
Wordpad was useful over the years for sure. Essentially it replaced the old write.exe for windows 3.x. Handled bigger files than notepad.
I never figured out emacs.
vi has more or less been my "go to" since the late 90s.
I moved over to one of the precursors to LibreOffice on Windows. Word is not necessary, LibreOffice's Writer has been capable for anything you need to do, for DECADES.
It's a bit more of a strech for Calc on LibreOffice, as the formula syntax is slightly different from Excel. But, me having used DOS based spreadsheets like Lotus123 or Quattro, I'd almost NEVER used Excel. A spreadsheet is a spreadsheet is a spreadsheet. And... has been from the start in the early 80s.
LibreOffice can import/export Word and Excel files just fine. It's free, and it's cross platform.
I will switch to linux eventually. The only thing stopping most people including me is how much of a pain it is
Im toopid and I can use it..... I mean goon level 99 toopid.
I used tried Linux mint 10 years ago and kept using it. Awesome app store (repository) where everything is free, good community and no blue screen of death.
Dual boot if you play games/use Adobe or other Windows only SW like Office (or in my case unreal engine)
Arch is so easy, everything just works
@@pingas117
In my experience, the pain isn't Linux itself, it's everything else I need to do to transfer my data and find equivalent programs on Linux. I've already done that on my programming laptop. I dread going through the process on my PC which has way more stuff.
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Immediately after writing this comment I decided to rip off that band-aid. Two days later and now my PC is also Ubuntu, and I have a copy of all my Windows data. And if you decide to not to waste 10 hours reclaiming a few GB of space on a badly-partitioned auxiliary 4 TB drive in the process, and if your Windows is installed in UEFI mode like mine wasn't when I tried to configure dual-booting (just in case), then you can probably do it in a single day.
it does have a learning curve but then its a smooth sail once you are setup.
sadly, alot of CAD, design and creative editing software are only available windows and mac, i know that we can use wine and VMs but its not the same, wine doesn't always work and VMs require alot of resources most of the time for most computers to handle to be able to run as smooth as native software, so i have a windows installation not just for games but for a bunch of other software too that i cant work without.
This is the equivalent of that one time Mr. Krabs charged Squidward for breathing.
I use it for my labelprinter, it's more convinient to see the change in size if I change the label(size) in printer-settings
This is why I'm still on Windows 7.
You're literally using an operating system which was literally discontinued over 4 years ago (January 2020).
@@Austinredstoner And?
@@madcat789yOu DoNt gEt sEcUriTy UpDaTeS
windows versions after 8.1 are just terrible
Absolute chad. Everyone saying how unsafe that is, but at least you don't have to deal with two control panels, have no Microsoft Store, no Cortana, no forced updates, the search function in the start menu actually searches your files and not Bing, no bloatware, no ads and a much more customizable UI.
And honestly, I think the panic over how unsafe Windows 7 is, is just greatly exaggerated. As long as you use common sense and don't run random .exe files from shady websites, you're probably fine.
I switched to Linux mint and have ZERO regrets. Proton with steam allows me to play all my favorite games hassle-free and as a normal PC user there’s no reason I need to dive into command prompt for anything I can’t just look up online. It’s been great! Fucking windows wouldn’t let me stop updates so I fucking deleted their shit, pirated windows on an old laptop that CANT update in case I ever need it, and will never go back.
What games? You don't realize that 95% percent of the games only work on windows? You can't even get the window kill game because that game only works on windows.
@@Austinredstoner i mentioned it in my comment. the Proton plugin with Steam allows steam deck and other linux builds play games that they normally wouldn't be able to. its pretty neat!
I was about to comment about Libre office, and then you said it in the video. 😅
Those Vim memes are brutal man. But one thing I must handed to Vim is the Vim typing. I have Vim emu on my VS Code.
To be honest this is the first time when I heard about the Wordpad and in my opinion if there is a person affected by the loss of Wordpad, he will quickly realize that Libre Office exists. I understand your feelings about the situation and totally agree with you, but unfortunately people will not care, because some have already got MS Office and others will find another solution faster than they would even start complaining about the loss.
I have written all my songs in that thing. Its part of my creative process...
modern kids will just stick with google docs and online word, but before those were mainstream, word or wordpad was all the average kid got.
XP was my first OS and I never knew that even existed.
When Word stoped bringing me immediately to a blank page, and even so, I always preferred just the basic text editor Win comes with. Soooo much quicker than some of the fluff Word has.
Your story almost resembles mine perfectly. I needed to open/save files in .DOC, i had notepad, didn't want to pay for Word, i knew about libre office but i didn't really wanted to get it just for one time use. Wordpad comes to the rescue with all the simplicity i needed of a very basic text editor that could read and save .DOCX or .RTF format.
MICROSOFT IS A MONSTER
It’s almost like they hate people using windows
@@WhiteSaberTV Only way we can win is by using debloated windows images.
@@WhiteSaberTV Yea exactly Windows 11's UI gives the impression of a Bloated Mac OS.
I remember Wordpad in Win 98 but I had no idea all my OS had wordpad until now... truly an educative channel
At least from my semi recent experience as a Minnesotan highschool student (Minnesota is in Midwest US) we basically only used Google Workspace for everything. Then in collage Microsoft 365 was just included as part of our tuition and now everything now is just Microsoft 365.
4:44 the video illustration shown are from .dotX format, we can tell from PK Zip header & the xml files name listed afterward
I personally use Notepad the most. It is simple and gets the job done.
Ah, good old typing. True story. I attended school, where we had all ten fingers typing as a subject. I hated the teacher, because I was slow and prone to errors. Well, I fell for a girl and summer holiday came. We would chat all the time over Skype throughout that holiday. Come next year, and I still make the most errors typing... but am also the fastest typer in the school... That was a fun first class with the teach, who, ofcourse, wanted to claim responsebility for my typing speed, but nope, that was the girl I wanted to marry.
Wait so if I need to read a document not even edit it I won’t be able to on a default windows install anymore or better be a PDF file thar my web browser will let me view.
I'm pushing the school I work at to install Linux Mint on all our machines. We currently have a bunch with unactivated Windows installations... yeah, a real mess.
Have you seen ZorinOS Education? Or wubuntu?
Also is easy to activate windows with a digital license app (but not legal to be done by a school, normal users can get away with it).
Why not just use HTML for documents then?
-Opens in all web browsers equally (unless you are doing unnecessarily complicated stuff)
-Pictures can be inserted from local or web
-Supports formatting and tables
-Supports links to other documents
-Editable with anything that can read/write plain text documents: or web browsers (on desktop)
You're talking about LaTeX.
why do the hoops with HTML when markdown would suffice? You can do all of that and its easier to read by humans as well.
I don't see this as a problem.
WordPad will probably still be offered like Windows Media Player as an "Additional package", installable from the Control Panel / Settings Application
WordPad has not been updated since at least 2009 when Windows 7 was released
LibreOffice, OnlyOffice and others exist
Most people will probably just edit text documents online via Google Docs, Microsoft office Online (via OneDrive) or Apple Pages (via iCloud)
Pretty much all OEM-windows computers come shipped with the free version of Microsoft Office which is a UWP application that was originally developed for Windows 10 Mobile back in 2015 (same as the iOS & Android applications), so unless it's changed since the discontinuation of Windows 10 Mobile in January 2020, I don't think you need an internet connection to use this application (I do not have it installed).
I should also add that the file formats *DOCX, PPTX, XLSX, XLSM, ODT, KRA (Krita)* and others using the OpenXML standard are just compressed folders which can be opened by applications such as 7-Zip or Ark or really any Archival software using the "Open Inside" feature so it's not like anyone is getting screwed, unless you use a 30 year old WordPad plugin or something.
Btw. you can use google docs without internet connecrion too. I am not sureabout that OEM versiob though I think that this wont work offline now but I am jot sure what you are talking about so maybe I am wrong
Could you make a video going over just works linux distros? They don't fit my needs right now (business student with a macbook air) but I used to mess around with Ubuntu and Linux Mint and I'm interested in seeing where the scene is now. Great video, cheers
I once added video player capabilities to emacs, i was fully leaning into that emacs OS meme.