Will It Run After 50 Years in Storage?? -1934 Ford Tudor Sedan
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Now that the Small Block Chevy has been cranked over and we know it builds oil pressure, it’s time to try to get it running. Matt, Andrew and George work on getting the SBC to start after sitting for 50 years. The original fuel pump didn’t work and wouldn’t pull fuel from a temporary fuel can. After filling the bowl and hooking up a nurse tank direct to the carb the engine cranks to life!!! You have to watch and see what comes flying out of the exhaust, you won’t believe it!! We can’t wait to get this car back on the road and cruise!!!!
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Heres a story for you Matt. Years ago when I was an apprentice we had an old mini in the shop to pull and rebuild the engine. We had the motor back in and were waiting to get the radiator back. The customer phoned up asked us to make up the bill to date and he'd take the car away while got some more money together. We got it back a month or so later and put the radiator back in and filled it with antifreeze and got it to run . I went to take it around the block to warm it up. The temp got up to quick and nearly boiled it. I got back before it got tooo hot and let it cool down. There was no circulation through the radiator. I took out the new thermostat and boil the jug and poured it over the thermostat and it opened. I took the bottom hose of the radiator and drained the coolant into a clean bucket. Ran the hose through the radiator and it was clear. Tried doing the same to the block and nothing came out the bottom hose. We clamped off the heater hoses and ran the hose and airline through the block. Something had to come out and neither of us wanted to pull the motor out again. All of a sudden a big dead rat flew out of the bottom hose. yuck! My boss said that'll be the problem! LOL and i had to get the dustpan and dispose of the rat. It must have crawled in at the guys house before we got it back. It all went back together and ran perfectly.
That had to smell horrible. Thanks for watching!!!
@@IronTrapGarage The sweet smell of the antifreeze had masked it a bit. yuck. urgh. I don't think it had been in there too long.. My boss thought it was going to be a rag id left in there.
wow lol that point cleaning brought back memories of my teenage years of being broke and trying to keep the car running....
Everyone has had to do it to keep there daily running!!
@@IronTrapGarage I remember dropping the starter to take the solenoid apart and flipping or sanding the starter plate so we could crank it and be on our way to the party...
my 1958 vw bus had sat 50 years and I had the same issue with the acorns in the tailpipes! lol except in a vw with the engine in the back they were busting me in the shins! lol great video gentlemen!
Just like so many others have said, brings back memories or the good old days keeping the daily driver running. Ron
So rad! It's the little victories that add up. I'm definitely stoked for you.
You got her running! That's great! At least you know more about what you need to do.
Yep allows us to move forward with replacing parts like points and condenser, fuel pump, clean fuel tank, etc. lots to do!
I think this is my favorite of all your cars. It is so reminiscent of what was going on in my teenage years, when I couldn’t afford any of it 😥
Like a whole bag of trail mix in the exhaust, Free snacks while you work!
To tell the truth after the water flood when you were hooking up the battery to try and start it the first time I was sure it was a huge paper weight but I'm really glad I wasn't and it did run
And I have to say thank you for the videos it's a great thing to be able watch during this time
I've never watched a start up video where the main focus was on the exhaust. Glad you did it though, I laughed my azz off the whole time. Nice to hear that old girl running again.
We knew it would be good!
so awesome, its a great feeling to get an old engine running again
Hey Matt, we have no oak trees around our neighborhood here north of Nashville, but I think the 34 blew some of those acorns into my driveway!🤔😳😱😂. Great to hear the 34 come to life. I know my Dad and I would swipe an Emory board from my Mom's and sister's makeup table to clean the points. As always, I hope you and yours are safe and it didn't take Andrew too much time to sweep up the debris. Looking forward to your next episode.👍😷🍻🐭
Success? Drop in a flat head. Seems everybody does SBC probably because they're plentiful and you can get parts at Wal Mart. But, GREAT videos! keeps us old folks (70s) entertained, and delighted to see younger folks actually getting into the greasy end of the hobby!
What an awesome car man. To have one that's been left in that era is hard to find. Great job
It sure is Thanks for watching!
Lovely , l enjoyed this start up to the end, cant try this trixs with a EFI motor, few wires , carb , pionts , and BOB's your uncle. Keep it up!!
The perks of an old school motor. Takes very little to get it going!
It will be kool to see it move on it's own. You're getting there.
While you had the plugs out, you could have laid a squirt of oil down each plug hole and given it a few spins to blow out the excess - and git it into the rings. Adding compression in this way is always a good plan for an engine that hasn't been run for awhile. Woulda been an important part of the compression test ya shoulda done anyway. But then I'm prolly just jealous of that beautiful li'l ford and being picky! Can't wait to hear it run!
The video before this, we had the plugs out and shot kroil into the cylinders to help break everything free.
When you filed the points.... they were just off high point of the dust Cam and looked fully closed. Maybe bring it back to top of dist lobe and set the gap.....
It actually runs great! Is the generator or alternator charging? And the breaks. Takes us for a ride around the block. Good thing the nut filter was on the carburetor. It looks like the paint would buff out. Speaking of a breath of fresh air. You could put one of the Ozone machines inside the interior to make it smell better they sell them on ebay for about 40 or 50 bucks. they actually do work.
Loved the exhaust smoke ring! :D
Gidday...If points r closed for long periods they will powder up from dampness. If they r open, they can dry up better.
After messing with points for years, l got a PERTRONIX unit for my 71 Dodge truck. Never looked back.
We got a mess to clean up. Andrew. Lol love this car.
Actually you are cleaning the points the right way. My grandfather taught me how to clean and set the points the same way. It worked for him for over sixty years so why not.
I am from the same school of thought. If it gets the job done it’s the right way.
My brother's barn find 34 had a whole family of 5 mice living in the muffler. When we push started it the muffler exploded and there were mice all over the road. They were running around in circles till they recovered from the fumes and the blast.
Glad we only found a dead one! We dont need more mice in the shop!!!
this is way cool loved it that is a old car
The Nutty Professor !!
Good stuff.
Smoke ring? No . Mini Halo from HOT ROD HEAVEN!!!!
Matt.... You got to change those valve covers. Did you ever find the windshield frame?
Love it! Is it a 265 or 283? Looks like it has 265 exhaust manifolds. Looks like the compression is decent, it shot that crap across the shop
lol I love the scavenger pipe exhaust too. Hell I love this car!
A blocked exhaust will make it hard to fire a car as the engine gets full of exh.gas. Once your acorns got blown out it was probably a lot easier for it to fire.,
Matt,where is the Cat. LOL?
EXCELLENT, Guys!
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just a thought but if the exhaust is blocked with rubbish then the engine has a vapor lock so it may start but never run
my gto sat the winter .started it in the spring big rattling noise on start pulled out of the garage floor was covered with field peas..you know living in the country.
The caddy motor we got running last summer had corn in it!!
Man I couldn't believe how much crap came out of those pipes. I didn't hear was there good oil pressure Matt I hope so, I know why my friend told me to cover up the ends of the pipes if it's being stored know I see why ha ha
Sounds ok. Fuel pumps rarely survive storage. Wish it were mine.
They typically don’t but you gotta try!!!
Carburetor might have a fuel filter in the inlet . Bought a flathead v8 that had been stored complete with carb fired it up on garage floor. Ran like crap but it fired up pulling off intake looked like mouse hotel with acorns!
Haha that was what I was worried about on this one too!
There's no room in the inlet of a '55 carburetor for a fuel filter. They came with a sediment bowl style filter.
Sandpaper on points? Maybe they don't make them anymore, but I have a "points file" in my tool box that's cleaned up countless sets of points over the years. It's the only way to go. Sandpaper may leave little bits of the grit in there, which may not be a good addition to the distributor.
I lose points files and never can find them so I tend to just use sandpaper and avoid the 20 minutes of checking around the shop for one.
@@IronTrapGarage As my old Pappy taught me, always put things back in the same place every time. You will never lose them again.
The last points i had to clean I used my sisters nail file and did the same thing you’re doing. It was easier than trying to squeeze my fat fingers in there.
Yep that's a good way to do it! Kate is on to me though with her nail files going missing all the time haha
Don't listen to the arm chair mechanics. What you did with the points was exactly how we did it in 1966. If the car goes down the road, you did it right.
That motor didn't sound to bad for sitting as long as my daughter is old. What kind of fuel tank is in it? Was it dry when you brought it home? Other wise you might have to have it steam cleaned.
We didn't dig into the tank yet. I plan to pull it out of the car and inspect it better once out. Hoping I can acid clean it and reinstall but who knows!
@@IronTrapGarage Boy I would love to come down and help. That 34 is so cool.I think the tank will probably be fine but usually the damn lines seem to take the brunt of sitting for decades. That little chevy sounded Pretty decent. A couple oil changes should help a bit. It might be worth putting a Mallory stand alone distributer in it. I had to do it on my 67 hi-po engine, the old dual point was just plain worn and on a fresh engine it wasn't worth it but they always fire up and no points Yea.LOL
What's with the white inner's and window pinch weld ? somebody doing a colour change ?
I like it Red myself.
Tell me you weren't trying to pull how many years old gas from the tank !
No we had a small nurse tank of fresh gas hooked to the fuel pump.
Who put water plugs back in?
Awe nuts 😂😂
Sandpaper, emory is how I was taught on points 🤷 like to someone say something
if you waited for the engine to warm up perhaps popcorn would come out of the exhaust 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pour gas in the carb not starting fluid
Do you know you have the same finger tattoos as Preserved Killick in the Aubrey-Maturin series of novels ?
A dead Mouse in the exhaust pipe!? That's got to be a disgusting find. It must've collected a lot of blockage.
Ha !! Armchair Joe Montana here .. .. get some "points files". Little finger files you'll enjoy over the way too long, but still effective sandpaper trickery. Points files.
Hall of Famer armchair quarterback out !!
Haha I have some somewhere but they always seem to go missing and it's easier to grab sandpaper most times lol. I just know my unorganized self too well lol!
Shot gun exhaust, laughed my ass off😂
I used to use an emory board to file the points. Just stick it between the points and move back and forth.
true , I like the cars but he,s hard to watch. At least he said he was a knuckle head beginer. Still good on him for having a crack.
@@shfr1747 I like the videos because he's not trying to build 6 figure cars. He's trying to build something that he can drive and be proud of. He's learning from his mistakes and as we watch, we learn from his mistakes too. I would only suggest that perhaps instead of showing EVERY screw being removed or EVERY weld or cut being made, he could explain what he's going to do... show the start of the procedure... and then the completion. He could actually cover more in a 30 minute segment that way. He could video the entire process and edit to show the pertinent parts. Just my thoughts...
The door opened itself and let Larry out , no doubt with a big smile on his face 👍
I keep forgetting 50 years ago was 1970.
I think the same...yikes.
Yea, I me too. I will be talking about something and say like 30 years ago then pause to recalculate that remark.
@@leestimson12 50 years for me, oops it's not 1970 no more.
I was 7yrs old shit getting old bugger. Jeremy Downunder
The ballast resistor reduces the voltage when running so the points dont burn up. On cranking it should be wired so the points get full 12 volts. Some GM coils have the ballast resistor built in and dont use an external one. Most likely the exhilerator pump was dried up so all that pumping the throttle wasnt doing anything. Probably gonna have to drop the exhaust...
The points cleaning brought back memories, thats how my dad showed me and hap with a match book in a pinch.
We will have to remember the match book trick!!!
I can feel the heat coming off that starter clear out here in Oregon.
In AUSTRALIA TOO
Hahahaha that’s awesome, that’s probably the best will it start video I’ve seen yet , first it was acorns , rust and a mouse carcass and then smoke rings briefly before finally firing up again to a stream of acorns , great stuff, I could see the enthusiasm and excitement on your face as it showed signs of life , definitely entertaining , cheers guy’s 😎👍👍
It’s the hardest we have laughed starting a motor!! We couldn’t believe all the nuts flying out!!!
it hurt listening to the grinding of that starter go on and on ! when using starting fluid one or two short squirts works best!
Matt, A tip I picked up way back when. "borrow" a throw-away nail file from the lady and you can push and pull to clean both sides of the points at once.. It makes quick work of the job.
Or buy an ignition file.
Or (gasp) a POINT file! In the days of point ignition, every parts dealer had a card of 'em on the wall!
That is one nutty exhaust system! :D
Wow, I've never seen a car blow smoke rings before. This car really wants to live again, that's awesome.
its not the car there is a little mouse in there chomping on a cigar lol
HAHA that's a great visual!
Sanding points....holy hell is that a lost art form and forgotten skill set... hell yes..
I wish I had a car like that in my life
In an emergency a matchbook will work to clean points on the side of the road
I told my kids about the matchbook trick, they said everyone has a lighter. Matchbook is almost a thing of the past, said it must be next to my cassettes tapes.
@@RustyIronProjectsRIP You're making me feel old!
@@thomasst.martin3308 You and me both!
HA HA HA, all smiles at the end, and no crying. Congratulations.
I hope we see it move just a bit in the next video. I always loved it when my non runners would start after point filing and setting. Who needs new points? They were like 5 whole bucks at the department stores.
Awesome channel!☮️
add a wire from the (I) terminal on the starter solenoid it is the smaller one That is next to the engine Block.Then to the positive side of the Ignition coil That will give full battery voltage to the coil while cranking then after it starts will run on the ballast resisted voltage that's how Chevy originally set them up
I use to use a feeler gauge and wrap the wet and dry paper around it and use that to rub it up and down
Good Idea!
I had a cub cadet 149 that I got running after it sat for 8 years in a woods. The exhaust was full of water and rust and it sprayed all over my snowmobile which was parked alongside it. I caught it on video and it’s on my channel.
I have a suggestion hotrod red or cherry bomber .
Have a Fabulous Friday
At least with a little bit of smoke you know it's getting oil and for a name, squirrel sounds good.
Hey Chock Full O' Nuts!! Puking out the back!
when life is all about the cruise
All indications you have `55 Chevy 265 cu. in. engine 6 volt. 9 volt was used back in the day big time. 6 volt needed help. I think `56 Chevy was 12 volt. Also a lot of guys went 9 volt on the Ford flatheads.
I believe the 55 Chevies were 12 volt. It's the Fords that changed over in 56. My brother had a 55 Ford that had a 6 volt battery. He went with a "Orpin" battery. That battery was a "special use" battery (for boats if memory serves). It was a 12 volt battery that would change the cells from a "parallel" connection to a "series" connection so it would provide 12 volts when starting and switch back to 6 volts for running.
That's a 55-56 style distributor, so the engine is probably a 265.
We ran the numbers and talked to the guy that built the car back in the 60s!!!. Its a 55 265
Hey simple is better 👍
You should be cruising that thing by Summer. By the way the stance on the thirty-nine is bitchin.
We hope to be cruising both this summer!!
Smoke ring @ 16:23 😆
That's a lotta nuts!
Was it Deez nuts?
The '34 is a sweet looking car Matt, Looking forward to seeing it move under it's own power. Cheers from Australia...the land of the timtam.
I've always had good luck with small block Chevy's and I love how 34 Fords look. I wish I had it!
Lol, that was funny watching all that stuff come out of the tail pipe. Thanks for sharing.
👍👍....... nuts
I think you'll luck out on that block.If it froze enough it would have popped those plugs that were epoxied in there.I'm sure you probably have an electric fuel pump in your garage. RAY K.
An old school trick for installing spark plugs is to but a straight plug boot on a push rod and they'll automatically thread without cross threading. Beats trying to squeeze your fingers in there.
is matt using a shoestring as a belt? lol
I sure am. Belt broke and I’m too much of a cheap ass to buy another one haha
Great progress my brother showed me that on my dual point on my Plymouth in the 70s lol it's better to use a cup of gas ie cap of a spray can as the starting fluid will dry out the cylinder
one thing you guys may not realize is the points system works WAY better when 12 volts is applied at starting (at least on a chevy) if you noticed there is another lug on the starter across from the start wire that's to give 12 volts to the coil for easier start ups also you don't have a points file????? and you call yourself old school.
I'd go with new plug wires, new points/condenser, new cap/rotor, new coil. That ought to hot up the sparkplugs.
Rochester two barrels rule! I have three of them on my 402 Big block.
Yeah! Bringing them back to life is the best. Been doin' it for over 50 years now. If I might suggest please get yourself a proper points file. Sand paper and emery boards can often leave an invisible residue on the point surfaces. Don't know if you re-set the point gap, but without an old time "Motor's Manual" handy I've found that .016 for 8cyl. and .020 for 4 & 6 cyl. will put you in the ball park. The distributor you have there is a typical pre-1957 Delco as found in 265 Chevys. Do you have a cooling system pressure tester? Now to find a 4bbl. manifold and a 4GC rochester or WCFB Carter carb.....
:/ Crumbs lad the exhaust pipe may want a proper clean up.
Good job! Love this old Hot Rod!!
What are the contact points made of that causes corrosion...Is it the same as the battery terminals?
Matt that flathead 59ab Ford V8 side valve from 39 Mercury would AWESOME in a hot rod say with mild cam twin 97,s bit of dress up, small block chevy sounds good. A blocked exhaust on any engine will stop them running.