the strange truth about English Cream Golden Retrievers
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2022
- English Cream Golden Retrievers are the most controversial style of Golden Retriever.
The Golden Retriever Club of America says the term is a marketing ploy to get people to pay more for a Golden Retriever puppy. But is it true?
The biggest claims about English Cream Goldens is that they’re healthier, live longer, more expensive, and have better temperaments than other Golden Retrievers.
They have cream-colored, almost white coats, blocky heads, and they’re stockier than other Goldens, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re healthier or more valuable.
In this video you’ll learn which rumors are true and which are false about these beautiful Golden Retrievers.
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I'm curious about the cancer stats. Is there not as many backyard breeders in Britain than here? We adopted our sweet Miss Macy from a family that bought her from a puppy mill. They bought her to breed but she never had puppies and she was 7 when we adopted her. They had never spade her. She had bone spurs and eventually had a splenectomy, developed osteoarthritis and sarcoma. She did live just passed her 14th birthday. I see lots of adds for Goldens and wonder if a lot of their health issues come from backyard breeding.
I have this breed. He is a very loving, jealous, lazy, and food motivated dog. I would recommend this mix for people who like a larger dog while living in the city. He still loves his walks, but anything over 2 miles and he's hitting the cold linoleum floor, belly first while napping as soon as we get back.
They're not lazy at all. They need to move a lot to spend all that energy! And they're very strong dogs!
Our cream boy came from Russia he was 8 and we lost him last year. He was huge and stunning plus loved so much. We were lucky to be his rescued parents.
We know have a ten month old nutter who is golden cream. He is the completely different to our other boy. Which is good as no comparison between them. He also is very loved.
I’ve just bought a cream golden from a Welsh breeder, had him for 3 weeks from 9 weeks old. Absolutely stunning little boy, a little stubborn😂 but so lovely. Great channel. Woofs to Oliver.
You’re going to have so much fun with him!
Have had a Golden (wonderful dog) and now an English Cream from Denmark. She is the most chill dog I've ever had.
yeah exact same ^^ Extreme fast learning even at very early age. have to hold my self not to push more 9 weeks old currently
I’m watching this because I miss my
english cream, Maggie. She’s at camp bow wow currently while we’re in Maine 😁
We have a cream golden. She’s 10 months old and a delight. My sister in law’s family has a 2 year old gold golden and they just met for the first time. Our girl is definitely more chill even though she’s younger, but both are the sweetest dogs. We actually didn’t set out to get a cream but the breeder was the most professional and informative of the ones we looked at so we went with them :)
Thanks for sharing! Goldens are the best.
I live in England and enjoy your videos; they are very useful and informative. I have had three Goldens: one female and two males. My first was a very dark gold. My second was light gold. My third is what you would probably describe as an English Golden Retriever, almost white cream in colour. All my Goldens were born and bred in England. The first two each lived to fourteen years and although one developed testicular cancer it did not kill him. My present Golden is just over a year old so I look forward to another thirteen years with him. In England the only distinction usually made between different types of Golden is whether or not they come from a working strain; colour is not usually a factor when it comes to price of the puppy.
Once again, great job explaining characteristics of the Golden Retriever breed!
Thanks Don!
My neighbor has two English Creams named Barrette and Wren. Barrette is the older one, and he’s my favorite, he’s also a little overweight, which makes more lovable when combined with with his large amount of fur.
My English cream girl was beautiful and calm. She died of a brain tumor at 9 last year. She starting having seizures and we couldn’t stop them. Saddest days. We are heartbroken. We are getting another puppy in 7 weeks from same breeder. She will be 1/2 cream golden and 1/2 poodle. She will be a F1 standard. Cant wait. Supposedly she will have hyper vigor. We plan to feed her a raw diet.
I’m curious about the seizures. Our purebred at 5 years just started having seizures. Really scary.😊
So seizures are common with English cream color or just with goldens in general?
Stay away from ANY "doodles". Read the articles written about the original doodle breeder. He wishes he had never done it.
@@bluerose5915great question
Can you link me to the breeder? I'm interested.
OMG I have my English retriever his name is Marshall.
He turned 2 this year Easter and he's such a good boy, kind with kids and very friendly with other dogs.
He's only gotten mad at me for tickling his paws and he ended up kicking me in the face later that day 😂😂😂.
I got mine for basically free, already trained, house trained, potty trained and leash trained.
Best adoption I've ever made he's scheduled to live another 11-12 years
just came across your comment and since it'll be easter again very soon I wish Marshall a happy 3rd birthday!! My english cream girl is also celebrating in a week and will turn 2, theyre truly such a wonderful and lovable breed
I have a English cream golden named Levi (If I had my way he would be Doug) and he is the sweetest little fluffy ball ever. His head is so big and it makes him just extra cute.
Honestly, I just want a lighter golden because the golden I had as a child was lighter colored. She was just such a wonderful creature that I want my future children to be able to have a relationship with an animal of that caliber.
Love Goldens with all my heart. We had three and loved them so much.
Me sitting with my cream boy watching this staring at the other dogs makes me so happy.
I've always liked the dark golden colors I found while looking for one the red is more expensive and harder to find.
It looks like the price is a matter of scarcity. I live in Poland, where the white ones are more prevalent, and the gold ones can be even twice as expensive
Both types are wonderful dogs
Why are they known as English cream When they're Scottish dogs? Plus here in the UK, there's a full range of colours in the UK froom cream through to red colours.
I had both a cream and a red field bred. Both died around 9. Of cancer. Both were wonderful. The cream was HUGE, HAIRY, sweet, gentle, slow, tender, snuggly, and sleepy. The red was high energy, easy to train, smaller, more intelligent, shorter and more wirey hair much less shedding. There were times I’d have to carry that 90 pound monster out of the woods. The red one would 👀 what is going on? I wouldn’t buy another cream but only because his coat was so long and thick. The cream one got a lot of the attention because he was so beautiful. But , I have a deposit on a red field bred!👍
Thank you for sharing! They both sound wonderful
red is not an accepted colour
@@johnpenney7440 It is for upland bird hunting gun dog LOL! "Accepted Colour" pffft what do you know!
I had two too a mom and a daughter the mom was cream the dauaghter a litter darker than cream and this morning the mom just died of a heart attack R I P
Why do they always get cancer?
I have an English cream. she’s 2 and she is the sweetest thing I have ever met.
i rescued my english cream and hes my world
I have 2 English Cream Golden Retrievers. Both were purchased from an AKC certified breeder. My girl Daisy is tiny, maybe 50 pounds, and has a three generation pedigree. My boy Harley is huge 85 to 90 pounds and a complete hyperactive goofball! Both have completely different personalities, and both are a handful! I have had many dogs in my lifetime and the smartest breeds are the worst to handle.
Priced the same as other goldens and the various color labs in our area.
When it comes to health, I think it has more to do with what they eat and drink. Cancer rates in America are also a lot higher than in European countries.
One reason I wanted the english cream color is it is easier to find ticks on your dog and get them out faster.
Great video. I love my English cream, such a chill dog 🐶 loves to swim too!!!
They're the best!
My English cream has a perfect temperament, but I might be biased.
my english cream is named leo and is 3. he is the cutest and goodest boi, also, could never be a scam 😄
No matter the color shape or size of the golden retriever or red retriever brown retriever they are beautiful, beautiful.😊😊😊
They are not calm 😭😭😭
There are international standards, it can't be different.
love them.
I miss my dog soooooooooooooo much🥺🥺🥺!!!!!
I have a black Lab who is stout with slightly shorter legs. I was told he was an English Lab bread for hunting under brush hence the shorter stature. 🤷♀️ no idea if that's true but I've had him for 14 years & could care less
I have cream golden and l live in Sydney- Australian :)
I have an English golden retriever. She seems a little longer ( she is!). But she's got great genes. She doesn't show her age and after being bred for 6 1/2 yrs she's 14 and enjoying the best part of her life. She's from Hungary.
I have proven that English creams have a better temper because it own one and she’s never attacked anything but a squirrl
I own one
They're sweet when they're small, but when they grow, they get really big. Can't have hem in a flat.
I work with dogs. I like regular Goldens, but my experience with English Cream Goldens has been the opposite. I think breeders are being very irresponsible and causing genetic issues which leads to their poor temperament. They have been the most stubborn dogs i have worked with and have no understanding of how they can hurt you with their weight and strength. They have such few natural instincts that they NEED to be trained.
Cream color golden ages better, no white hair after some age 🐶❤️
With all due respect, the Golden Retriever originated in Scotland, UK in the late 19th century so I will always defer to the British Kennel Club when it comes to standards. I have even seen actual American owners ask or argue where the Retriever originated lol. Light gold or cream is the original colour of the Golden retriever, the British retriever. It is no surprise that you would pay more for an British Retriever, you are getting the original breed. It is widely accepted that English retrievers are milder in temperament than their American counterpart which has higher energy levels and is more susceptable to seperation anxiety, these observations have been made over 100 years of breeding and ownership. Nobody wants to think that someone else's kid outshines theirs but I am afraid that when it comes to Goldens, the British variety is just a cut above. The differences came about because the American Retriever was bred to the American Kennel Club standards whereas the British Retriever is bred to the original UK Kennel Club standard. American Retrievers are smaller, a different shape, have a shorter lifespan and more than 20% more likely to contract cancer, I would almost call that a bastardization of the breed but then in a part of the world where it is still legal and deemed acceptable to mutilate your dogs by docking tails and cropping ears, feeding bulldogs and pitbulls steroids and growth hormone while still calling them by the original breed name, as a lifelong devoted dog lover and owner I find these things repulsive as does most of Europe.
Much of what you just said applies to all "purebred" dogs. Purebred dogs are by design inbred and genetically inferior to what nature provides. They have been manipulated by humans to amplify many mutations that would never persist in the wild because they decrease fitness. Standard biology and genetics texts support this truth. I have had several breeds of purebred dogs and all have had breed related issues. The last two I owned were considered the best of the best...health screened and from Westminster stock...yet, they too had breed related health issues. Now I have a strict "mutt only" policy. Mutts are less expensive to obtain, are generally healthier, and are often homeless. They also are much more interesting and aesthetically pleasing to me. I adopted my current dog for $50. He was a six-year old mutt surrendered by his family and on death row. It was the best $50 I ever spent.
I want to mention also, that as a dog lover, I find all dog breeding repulsive. I am an American, and I think it is best to avoid generalizations.
@@mel87123 You find breeding repulsive yet have owned "several" pure breed dogs. Do you often flagrantly disregard your own principles?
@@fabiantimmins2224 Nope. I have seen the light.
Additionally, people often learn and grow with experience, so I am allowed to change my beliefs and principles. I have a lot more wisdom now than I did as a child and young adult. I also have a Biology degree and a good bit of genetics study under my belt. I have decided that mixed breeds are superior and much more interesting. I have no interest in buying an inbred dog whose genetics have been manipulated to conform to an artificial "standard" that prioritizes aesthetics over health. Nature chooses what is healthy, so the more mixed a dog is the better. Genetic diversity improves health. Inbreeding concentrates and perpetuates bad genes. I also realize that there are millions of dogs killed in shelters every year, so I see no need for me to buy a genetically inferior animal when there are better options out there and animals in need. I don't go around pointing my finger at people regarding their purebred dogs. I am polite. I often complement their dog's cute face and give it a pat. They have the right to have whatever dog they choose. You chose to generalize about Americans, so I decided to air my opinion and discuss some facts about purebred dogs and genetics.
The AKC is correct. There is no such thing as an "English Cream" Golden Retriever. There are only light, golden, and dark Golden Retrievers. Unethical breeders present so-called "English Cream" Goldens as somehow special and charge way more money for them. They aren't different in any significant way. It's just marketing, and unethical marketing, at that.
There is no such thing as an "English Creme Golden Retriever". Golden Retrievers are first and foremost a Scottish Breed - not "English". Colour is irrelevant - the UKKC breed standard is - any shade of gold or cream, neither red or mahogany. Selling dogs as "rare" is a con and people should not fall for this scam. Find a breeder you can trust and work with them to find the best puppy for you - regardless of colour.
Dude that’s exactly what the video makes crystal clear. We breed a couple litters every year or 2 and send this video and others so they know the whole truth
I have nothing to say except english creme golden retrievers are amazing :)
I have a cream golden
im 13 and ive been talking to my mom and planning on getting a goldie when im done with the army, which will be in... 8 years, but the problem is that no matter how much time i spend on research, i cant find a breeder in israel(((, might have to go to america for one, which will definitely be expensive...
People need to stop focusing on colour - there are American style Goldens and English style Goldens (ranging from cream to medium/darker gold). It's about the slightly different structure and look of the dog - not the colour. Field Goldens are slimmer, rangier and more athletic - they are bred to do a job, not for show ring conformation. Right now I have an English style retriever and she is medium gold. There were creams in her litter - they're just variations of colour - but the look of the dog - the blocky head, rounder eyes, deeper chest and heavier bone are the same. English retrievers are not all cream.
Few pet owners could care less what AKC says or thinks! Using the term "style" is ridiculous! Dogs are "bred" not styled! English cream retrievers are less inbred compared to American goldens and therefore live longer and have less health issues. Check out the statistics in Europe and New Zealand for longevity and health. That is the reason English cream retrievers are more expensive and more desirable.
I adopted mine for basically free so I got a steal
English Cream Golden Retrievers are better looking dogs. Nearly all goldens in every "style" are sweet dogs unless the owners goof them up! They are difficult to raise from puppies but great from 6 months on.
Why then, are they called golden retrievers and not white retrievers??? They were originally bred golden in color in Scotland, and later bred whiter by the English. They are all the most soulful, loyal and sweet companions. A human could ever be blessed to have in the family. Who
cares about their color? ❤️🦮🐩🐶
I guess maybe the English. Enough said.
I have a cream golden retriever I call her narsbars
Say "European" since most lines are from outside of the UK
She’s 6
Goldens are sweat and calm. English Creams are Skitz
personality traits in dogs is hereditary? FAIL
English Golden Retrievers??? ... The breed was created in Scotland! (Inverness -shire) and the mother of the first puppies to go onto what we all recognise as Goldens, was called Nous , a favourite dog of her owner Lord Tweedmouth. One of the most favourite dogs in the world is Scottish!!! FACT
I am etting it
FALSE. You are just jealous. At least I own 12 company's and am a multibillionaire and don't have to lie on youtube to make money as well as making myself feel better cause Im poor