CAAD13 vs ALLEZ SPRINT vs EMONDA ALR vs SCULTURA 400 - Aluminium Road Bike Shoot Out
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The spirit of the Aluminati runs strong in these four aluminium road bikes, let’s do a detailed review and see how they stack up.
I am on a mission to find the perfect aluminium road bike.
Please comment below with your own experiences and thoughts on these bikes, or perhaps there are some other aluminium options out there I have missed.
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I had the Scultura and really liked it. Nice frame very comfortable and reasonable fast.
Thanks for the input on the Scultura. It doesn't get much love and attention out there but it looks like a great bike
I'm about to purchase the 2021 merida scultura 400 disc for around 1940 AUD. Should I do it? Do you think it can handle light gravel? I'm so tempted, not sure if it's the right decision
Interestingly, the Scultura 100 has a frame/fork that is identical in every way to the 400 (same 6066 aluminium, triple butted, full carbon fork etc. etc.) except that somehow the lower model 100 gets an English threaded BB. To me, that's a reason to choose the base model over any other! Very tempted to give a rim brake version a ride. If I like it, I'll strip it down, and build it up with Campy. Might be a bit of a "sleeper" frame, Merida's alloy is top notch and the shapes on this frame look very well done (it's got aero optimised down tube too)
Interesting bottom bracket info there, I didn't know that about the Scultura 100
I just checked out the Scultura 100 on 99 bikes and it says it has a square taper cartridge style bottom bracket.
Melbourne Cycling Segments The square taper cartridge BB is inserted into a British threaded “BSA” bottom bracket.
This decision is solely for the hate on pressfit ig. I would do the same 😂
Nice review. CAAD13 DISC happy owner.
New subscriber here, the background music was a little loud. You have some great content on your channel.
Many thanks, from California
Thanks for subscribing much appreciated. Thanks for the feedback too, agree the background music was too loud
Completely agree with your comment
The best CAAD13
Scultura for life 😎
I can’t believe the weights! That’s the main reason I don’t want a disc brake road bike! Also, I don’t need DBs. Cannondale have been smoking something with those prices. I’ve upgraded my Caad 12 rim brake bike with 38mm carbon wheels and other upgrades for a similar price to that 105 Caad 13 and it only weighs 7.5kg! Caad 13 disc, No thank you! The trek looks the best value to me. Merida are BUGLY!
Personally I'd probably get the rim brake versions too. I think the disc bikes could all lose 1kg too though
Yea I can’t buy the rim breaks nomore is what the bike store says haha
Found a deal on a 2018 Allez Sprint Comp and it’s like cycling on a bolt of lightning. Shit is bananas
Hi, may i know how much did you pay for 2018 aleez sprint comp? New or used? I'm about to buy a used one. Thank you 😊
@@renv4403 I paid around $1400 but had to pay almost $200 to ship it across a few states.
@@svfutbol20 ah okay.. is that a used bike?
@@renv4403 Yes
@@renv4403 Try to find a rim brake version if you can because they only make disc now
had the alr emonda 2yrs, it's amazingly fast, compared to other crit bikes, disc brakes modulate stopping really well, and the frame is amazing..
obviously a narrow and shallow list of Alloy bike reviews. Polygon strattos S5 105 disc is the best value for money Aluminium alloy bikes for beginners. Not an overpriced and overhyped so called branded bikes. By the way specialize'ds explaination to justify the fugly joint weld is laughable.
One of my bikes is a Trek Emonda ALR which I have upgraded to 11-34t and swapped out the wheelset to DT Swiss PR1600 alloy
It now makes for a good climbing bike for this 70 yo bloke :)
Hi Mike!
Here Santi from Catalunya(spain),
I have a question for you, why did you choose pr 1600 and no pr 1400?
Are you happy with these wheels?
Cheers!
Nice content! Your quest criteria started out exactly as mine now recently : Alu + 105, but at Point 3 I have Rim brakes instead of hydraulic disc. Living in the flattest country in the world is probably the reason. Writing this in Corona age where apparently the demand for bikes outruns the supply, I'm faced with the following scenario. Now I finally have a budget, a narrowed down selection (obviously similar to yours, but then the rim-brake versions) and guess what: for all candidates availability is down to either size 49 or pre-order for 2021.. Bummer 😀
I have an Emonda ALR with rim brakes. It’s excellent to ride. I’m sure that the disc brake version will have better brake performance but the with the weight penalty and the price difference it was an easy choice for me.
What is the weight and size of ur trek frame?
did you follow durianrider advice he loves it
Hi, I work for Mérida in México, I Have some points to know, in handling the winner is the allez is puré racing machine the Mérida is cheapest and the penalty comes from the wheels which can be replaced With some aksiums or racing 6 wheelsets and pair the weight. The caad is recent I don't have chance to ride it, the emonda is good for climbing feels compact and the scultura really feels balanced.
Thanks for your valuable input Brian. I am hoping to arrange a road test of the Scultura soon
Brian Ongay Arenas what bike would you say would be good for a guy that sucks on the flats . I’m a small guy and just wondering should I go with the alr or allez. I need a good climbing bike. But if the allez is a faster bike and could hand with the alr5 in the climbs then that may be a good choice. Just don’t know which one will be a better buy. Like I said I’m probably better off to beat people in climbs lol
@@jessedavis1489 I think you would be better off really developing your climbing ability. So a climber like the emonda will help. You may want to look at riders like Emma Pooley and see how she trains
I have same Nirone as you and even though I got better bike later, I still like it and ride it alot. In my opinion it have more advantages like threaded BB and external cable routing unlike those new designs. Even being 'endurance' bike, it is a race bike in comparison to most endurance bikes.
I couldn't agree more, great bike.
Legendary presenter. Subtly hilarious.
living in Japan. all these bikes cost exactly 3000AUD after forex. Got CAAD13 because 30C or even 32c tires capability I heard from forums
I own a caad13 , with a few upgrade as a knot 64 hallowgram wheelset , ceramic bb, 165shimano crank. It’s stupidly fast and reactive, born to climb and bomb descend.can keep up with any other top of the range carbon frame bicycle that money can buy on the market . That’s my Simple opinion
Hey man! Cool review, very comprehensive!
My Allez Sprint weighs in at 7.6kg in full race kit with pedals and mounts. It does have eTap and DuraAce brakes with a 1X chainring. It is by far the best bike on the market price v performance.
Bro can you please give me a call. I’m planning to buy the allez sprint just wanted to ask some questions. I’m a small guy and I’m better at climbing then flats. I suck on flats . Just wondering would the allez be a good climbing bike. Or should I just go with the emonda
@@jessedavis1489 tarmac
Fk me, Cannondale take the piss with their pricing don't they? Knock $500 off it and it's still a chunk of change.
I almost bought a 2018 TCR Advanced Pro 1, admittedly rim brakes but it was full carbon frame and fork, carbon wheels, full Ultegra and 7.5kg (L) for $3200. I'm sure Cannondale make great bikes but at those prices, I'll never own one!
I think they've lost the whole point of an aluminium bike
I should mention all four bikes are also available in 105 rim brake if discs aren't your thing. In particular the Emonda ALR 5 rim brakes uses direct-mount calipers
Caad13 have dm calipers aswell!
@@PUNISHERRR mmm, I might check that one out then.. I think I might prefer rim brakes.
Melbourne Cycling Segments
Yeah I have upgraded the brake pads to Swiss Stop far better stopping power than the standard pads
SCULTURA 400
WEIGHT 9.11 kg
weighed at frame size M/L (w/o pedals)
Great review. I bought the Scultura 400 - lovely bike. Discs are worth the small weight penalty.
Thanks for the feedback and input on the Scultura 400. I am trying to arrange a test ride soon but good to hear you are happy with it 👍
@Edot not yet. I ended up getting a great deal on an emonda sl5, I've got a review of that bike on my channel. I was hoping to arrange a ride of the Merida as I think it's a lot of bike for the money
CAAD12 still
Fuch you
@@jagcentral shut up Meg!
My allez sprint is very stiff for sprinting. Comfort is ok not great. My carbon bike is more comfortable especially on longer rides. I do like it though.
I actually want you to review that Bianchi lol
One minor suggestion to this video: the picture shown on 3:19, that's not Taiwan. That's somewhere in China according to the simplified Chinese on the sign :P
After much deliberation I think I'm going with a CAAD13 it's the only one that supports 28c with fenders and with fender mounts (winter bike in the UK) it will be the 105 disc spec.
Nice... Let us know how you find the bike after a few rides
Yes, the need of fenders is a must! 😬 But the price of caad13 is not attractive. I'll go for synapse. 😬
@@gooeytv1184 I managed to pick one up with £400 off in Black Friday sale so in total £1500 GPB no idea what that is in Aussie money.
@@BeardonaBike 1 gpb = 1.93 aus dollar. That's about a 2,895 aus dollar in total.
If the Bianchi is a little bit heavy for your taste throw it away in the trash container, tell me where and I will pick it up. 🤣
just found this vid.. However i already ordered an Alu bike as my 1st oad bike prior to this vid.
For SEA/Taiwan, it seems Giant still sell TCR Aluxx SL/SLR Disc models. However the disc models are not on Giant website.
With my budget for ~usd1400 for a 105-R7000 bike, im limited to used market (2021 is not a right time to get a bike, as ppl jacked up the prices, even for used bike).
I narrowed down to Scultura 400 and TCR Aluxx SL1 as other bike just not possible to get with 105 r7000 even for past year model used. I got lucky to find a lightly used TCR Aluxx SL1 Disc 2021 model that uses Giants proprietary Conduct hybrid hydraulic disc system(probably the user decided to ditch it due to that system). I havent got my bike yet (still in shipping, import from Tw by an agent who deals with used bikes) but i already watch tutorials how to maintain the Conduct system. If i enjoyed the bike, i'll keep it and probably swap the brakes to full hydraulic Ultegra r8020/105 r7020 in future since the Conduct also uses flat mount caliper.
I'm jealous. We don't get the aluminium tcr slr here
I built an Allez Sprint rim brake bike a couple of years ago. A great looking bike and fun to ride. Compared to My Tarmac SL4 it is a more aggressive cockpit and feels much stiffer. One thing to note about the Allez. The seatpost is proprietary and even with the seat Stay geometry it is really stiff. Also, I kind of prefer a very slight saddle “off centre” position. a few degrees to the right. With a seat post like this, that kind of offset is impossible.
Keep the Bianchi, much better and better looking than any of those you’ve reviewed 👍🏻
Haha. I'm thinking that you might be right, rides like a dream too.
Disc brakes spoilt the good look of the bicycles. It's a really stupid system for bicycles. All fell prey to this marketing gimmick.
Not me 😉
I would sure like them if I was doing 40mph downhill or rode in traffic often. As I don’t, it’s not an issue.
The Trek Émonda ALR 5 Disc is by far the best in the list, especially in this beautiful glossy gradient purple colour. It is, unfortunately, not the lightest, is not compatible with 30mm tyres and lacks the absolutely indispensable rack AND mudguard mounts, but it's no doubt the prettiest of all the bikes in the list by far. I'd go sa far as to declare it one of the most beautiful aluminium bikes overal. Other very handsome aluminium bikes I would suggest - are the Pinnacle Arkose D-series 2020 (not available in Australia), the Koga Colmaro 2020 (the welds are beautifully-smooth - like carbon!).
I would have to agree with you. The disc brake will be available in purple flip for 2020. Personally I'm looking for a good deal on the rim brake version
What’s a one all best buy for a guy that sucks in flats and are better on climbs. The allez or alr5. I know that it want always be hills so I’m just wondering would the allez hag with the alr plus be faster on the sprints.
@@jessedavis1489 for climbing it comes down to weight and I think the emonda might be a lighter. The allez will climb, and sprint well but the position might be too aggressive if you plan on doing long rides. Maybe try the allez and see if you find it comfortable. Otherwise they will both be great bikes
@@jessedavis1489 Indeed, whatever is lighter (I concur with @MelbourneCyclingSegments. I believe, for climbing a lower stack is slightly better overall. For endurance - a slightly higher stack is better (but at the cost of speed). For speed on flats and for descents - the lower stack is better. For looks, the Émonda ALR 5 (especially in purple flip) absolutely smokes the Allez, in My opinion.
You should also consider the BMC ALR01; aluminium frame, full carbon fork, dropped seatstays, flat mount hydraulic discs and one of the few with a threaded BSA bottombracket! The're's a very cool Sram Force AXS build but it's crazy expensive though.
Thank-you very much for the input Martijn. That BMC sounds very good, I especially like the threaded bottom bracket. I will try to get it on my review feature list soon
The BMC looks great but it's expensive and not so easy to find a dealer
@@BrianAndTheBike 99bikes and bike zone stocks bmc in melbourne but I agree with it being expensive. I think if you're able to go to Canyon open show (if they have one) might be worth while to check it out and test ride before buying it online. Might be able to save a bit and get quality parts otherwise I would stick with merida/trek
I really would like fore bmc to put out some framesets off there alu bikes. I was really excited when I seen that BMC alr01 but the sram I didnt like that much. Would be really great if I you just can buy a frameset alone and put a Ultegra of dura ace on that . I'mm considering buying a trek emonda Al or a Sprint again I have had 2 of them in the past and I really like the allez sprints, they can fit 28mm tires to. But I have u caad12 now and it really nice but I liked the allez and allez sprints more
@@BrianAndTheBike Kaos Custom Bikes for the BMC if your in Melbourne.
I've had nothing but an aluminum Specialized Crux with road tires for 8 years- I love it. I ride a Selle SMP Pro saddle for about 4 years now and just replaced the entire Tiagra groupset with 105 and upgraded to a Ritchey carbon fiber seatpost and Gatorskins, rides like a dream!
My rim brake Tiagra groupset, Allez Sprint, size 58, with Stans No-Tubes ZTR wheels with 26c tires weighs in at 19Lbs even.
My caad13 rim brake weighs in at just under 18 lbs, that's with my Hed jet6 rims, sram red chainring and cranks... Groupie is 105 r7000 with a ultegra r8000 cassette. 👍🏼
I'm looking at Giant TCR Advanced 2 and TCR SLR 2 Rim brake version to purchase for racing. I'm not able to find any reviews of Giant TCR SLR. Where do you think it stands compared to these bikes in performance. Or how does TCR SLR 2 compare against TCR Advanced 2 in performance. TCR SLR is only around 100 grams heavier than TCR Advanced 2.
Unfortunately Giant stopped selling the TCR SLR in Australia a few years ago and we only have carbon TCR. I think the aluminium TCR SLR would be an awesome bike and probably as good as any of the bike listed here. I rode the earlier 2014 SLR and it was great. Entry level carbon is not much lighter but will be more comfortable on longer rides. But if that is out of tour budget get the SLR it will be a great bike especially if you say it's for racing where comfort is less important
@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 carbon is roughly 370 AUD more which I don't mind. I'm more concerned about crash protection. I'm sure SLR will be way more comfortable than the bike I ride now, I'm okay with it. If there is no difference in performance I would likely to pick SLR.
@@rakeshmarri4482 lots of racers prefer aluminium for those reasons
CAAD so GOOD
How does the caad 13 frame build end up 300gr heavier than the allez on a 400gr ligther frameset?
Great video just the photos keep zooming in makes it hard to focus on te great info
I'm still riding my Caad9 5. Handmade frame in USA. Smooth, invisable welds.
All nice except that they`re not an entry alu bikes. Thanks
Go for Mérida is the cheapest full carbón fork and triple butted aluminum
Fuji make some seriously cheap bikes, found a Sportif with Claris for about $600 pre-covid
Less than £1000 for Merida is crazy cheap price !
UK price would be £1700 for 2020 model
I bought the Scultura 400 (love the blue colour) and the price was too good to be true. I had a higher budget so had a decent amount as spare after buying the bike, after riding it stock for a month I spent the additional money on new carbon aero wheels 50mm, carbon Aero drop bars, carbon pedals and continental GP5000s, all up the build came up to $2600 and for a size M/L (with the pedals and bottle cage) it tips the scale ar 8.38kgs. I couldn't be happier with it and would highly recommend going that route.
Long shot, but year later would you make same choice? Thinking of getting one for entry level racing to replace my broken decathlon bike..
@@LiamHaHaX as long as it has the 11speed Shimano 105, yes I would still get it. Infact i still have it 12,000km later. Im only now upgrading to a new bike. You cant go wrong for the price with the Meridas :)
He is way off with his tyre clearances at @5:06. I have an Alles Sprint DIsk and he can easily fit 32 even, depending on wheel width of course.
I've got the first gen Contend and despite losing a bit of handlebar space for mounts, I get the size and shape of mechanical 105 shifters, with the control of hydraulic disc brakes. I've had no problems with it, and am glad I don't have to look at the first gen blobby hydraulic STI levers.
bad music thats y i am leaving
Please I need some help, I’m a small guy 5’4. I suck on flats and don’t know what to get alr5 or allez. Just don’t know what to get . I need a good climbing bike. But from what I seen the alr5 weights more then the allez. Just wondering if the allez can compete with the emonda on climbs. Need help please
I am also 5'4" and rode a size 49cm 2013 Allez Comp. Fast on flats and great on climb. The Allez Sprint should had no problems climbing. Whatever bike you decided to buy, make sure not to go over size 50cm as it might be too big for you. Good luck.
Nice content. I like your style mate :)
Interesting video and have often herd a good aluminum frame is better than a bad carbon one. If anyone follows Cam Nicholls , he raced A Grade on his ALLEZ SPRINT. Also. i did a search for top crit bikes with a CAAD 10 (as it was then) because of its geometry.
CAAD10 is an awesome bike. I have one as well as a nice carbon bike
so no canyon endurace??
Thanks for the very good video, looking for a simular alu racer, thanks for sharing 👍👊
Great video mate...! Been looking at CAAD13 vs ALLEZ for a while now, and by far this is best comparison video..! keep it up. Can't wait for ride review.
Me too.. so whats you final verdict
Caad 13 rim brake
What do you think about the Scott speedster 10.
Get it!
the background music is distracting
Can i have this bike with shimano ultegra?
Google is your friend 😂
im thinking to take either Allez Sprint or Emonda ALR 5, i ride mostly Ride on flat surface and little bit of climbing, which one you recommend?
They are both great bikes, the emonda might be the better all-rounder though. The Sprint is more suited to racing
@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 does Emonda good at sprinting on flat surface as well? Because Allez sprint geometry seems more aero than Emonda. How about CAAD13 and Emonda? Actuallly I prefer Emonda finishing, CAA13 welding looks like crap.
@@DavidLiiuu I've got a carbon emonda and the geometry would be less aggressive than the Allez. But really it all comes down to the rider so just get the bike you like more and enjoy it
Aye m8, I've been thinking on choosing the Emonda ALR or the Allez Sprint. Both are pretty convincing options to replace my current bike (a B'Twin Ultra 700 AF).
Many thanks, from Singapore
No problem, happy to hear the video gave you some good information
My channel has a video on this. 8 bikes infact.
Actually I’ve heard from a reliable source that Giant manufactures at least 3 of the bikes in this video.
Wow, that is interesting. On the international Giant site they have the TCR SLR... I wish they sold that in Australia.
Melbourne Cycling Segments I have an Allez Sprint that I love. I can also say that the the caad12 and the Emonda Alr are awesome also. Two more awesome alloy models are the BMC team machine Alr and the Bianchi Impulso. I find that they all have a light responsive ride that equals carbon in performance. I was also told that the A6 alloy used in the Fuji Roubaix is the same as Specialized E5 alloy. I don’t know if it is true but it’s what I was told by two different bike shop owners. Both owners also told me that Giant(largest bike manufacturer in the world) makes most of the bikes we ride because they make them for other manufacturers. Manufactures like Specialized, Cannondale and Trek.
Melbourne Cycling Segments from my experience with them the Allez Sprint is the stiffest, fastest, most responsive bike I’ve ever ridden regardless of material. The rest have what I consider a comfort ride. Although all of these feel like racers to me. All climb well also. I would definitely recommend riding all of them. The two that surprised me the most were the Emonda Alr and the Impulso. I was actually going to purchase an Emonda Alr until I rode the Allez Sprint.
@@jasonsmith7345 Great input. Is the Allez Sprint reasonably comfortable in comparison? Say compared to the Impulso?
Melbourne Cycling Segments I would say that reasonably is a good description I don’t find anything uncomfortable about the Allez Sprint. I do long rides all the time on it. Also with the Allez Sprint it seems the stiffness negates the weight. It just jumps and responds to every little input. The Impulso is very high on comfort but the Emonda Alr(2017 or 1st gen) and Caad12(2017) are probably just as comfortable they caught up to Bianchi with those models. To me the Impulso(2015) was and still is comparable to carbon comfort/cobble bikes when I rode it it was back to back against a Cannondale Synapse, Specialized Roubaix, Scott Cr1 and Scott Solace they all ride similarly Although the Solace and the impulso seemed a bit stiffer through the bottom bracket than the other two which made them better climbers. The Allez Sprint(2017) has a Carbon fork and Seatpost so there is decent amount isolation from road vibrations. I thought I was going to purchase a caad12, then I rode an Emonda Alr and couldn’t justify spending more on a caad 12. Then i happened to stumble upon an incredible deal on my Allez Sprint. This is the fastest bike I’ve ever ridden and that’s really why I got it.
Which is best for climbing
All the same really
Interested to see what you end up with. Im also looking at a Alu bike with 105. Tossing between the Caad12 or Canyon Endurance AL 7. Btw, I'm also based in Melbourne.
I will have to check out the Canyon, thanks.
The canyon is not as light as the caad and in case of warranty or replacenents is gonna be easy in the caad. But the geometry of the endurance is comfy.
I’m in Melb. I got a Canyon Ultimate Al frameset before they stopped making them. The welds are a bit poor but the ride is phenomenal. It’s under 7kg with alloy bar/stem, chorus gruppo and Zonda clinchers.
Great vlog. I love the look of the emonda. Not sure how I'd get in with it though. Comfort is pretty important to me
I bought an emonda sl5 recently and find it fairly comfortable. You might like to check out that review vid on the channel
durianrider loves the Emonda alr 5, Do you watch him
Sometimes. I ended up buying the carbon Emonda SL5. Love it, you can check out my review of it on my channel.
This bike was really easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
CAAD 13 gets slated but it’s fine if you change bottom bracket. Plus you can fit up to 32c on Cannondale. Yes the sprint is great but the CAAD is more bang per buck out of them all.
great video and content! i was looking at moving my madone 105 groupset to a caad12 or caad13 and it answered everything for me. i guess i will have to settle with the same brand on the emonda, i broke the carbon madone frame. you said it needs an adapter to transfer the standard 105 crank to a caad13 or an allez. can you show a sample or link of that adapter?
Thanks for the kind words and I am glad you found the video useful. To run shimano crankset on BB30 or PF30 you just need an adapter. Here is the link to the praxis version www.merlincycles.com/en-au/praxis-bb30-bottom-bracket-conversion-93683.html?AU&Road+Bike+Bottom+Brackets+%26+Cups&ucpo=34225&gclid=CjwKCAiArJjvBRACEiwA-Wiqq0RmaxU7Q6289OBZyzen3mecw-ODJj3Vb9oI8c8eOxiDRVvmXJwT2BoC4t0QAvD_BwE
Have you sold your Bianchi bike or are you looking to sell it?
I've still got it, not sure it's worth selling to anybody
@@melbournecyclingsegments7510 I live in Brisbane and I can not afford $ 1600 for a bike and yours looks like an amazing bike if you are willing to sell it I would to ride it and I would look after it very well
@@Gocajoca I bought that bike off ebay for $600 and it was like new. You can find lots of good cheap bikes second hand
✌️👍👍👍😍🚴
The music though? Ditch it.
CAAD 9 still
....hand made in the USA.
Your weight of caad 13 is totally wrong WTF, it’s not supersix evo 2020. If you forgot to add weight of fork then it’s ok😂 1,394g + fork ca 450g...
Quick fresh research just now tells me around 1,100g for a 56 plus fork. Basically the same as the CAAD12. Fork is around 380. So yeah, my video numbers alot more accurate than whatever boat anchor you were weighing ⚓
Oh and by the way.... Claimed weight for the SuperSix Evo Rim is 976g for a painted 56cm frame, plus 368g for the fork, and the same 162g for the seat post. In any case, Cannondale are all shit regardless.
Just check out weight weenies forum. People claiming there caad13 is about 300g heavier than Caad 12. They are saying frame real weight is around 1400g+fork. It’s a heavy frame. I can be wrong😊
@@weaklegs4005 it’s 300 gram heavier than 12. I just take a shit to make up for this.
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