Avoid These 5 Mistakes When Rainwater Harvesting | Things The Books Won't Tell You
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- Avoid These 5 Mistakes When Rainwater Harvesting | Things The Books Won't Tell You
These are some issues we've run into when setting up a rainwater harvesting system. They might be easily overlooked but important to consider.
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U pile those rocks nice .u can build a home like Spain rock n cement house vila
Get gutter guards
Get pressure cookers still water 💦 safe
If you’re going to use silicone please use aquarium safe silicone… other silicones have toxins in them.
Great warning. Thanks.
@@sandhills2344 maybe he does care about toxins but didn't realize there were toxins in either...or maybe he plans some type of filtration system down the road.
E -6000 and/or NP-1 are by far the best
This video made me wonder why you guys didn't drain the poly tanks while there was no rain and move them closer to shed, so that initial catchment was poly tanks with cistern as overflow? Probably something I'm missing.
The poly tanks are their ONLY supply of water. That is why they didnt drain them.
Simple, no pretence, straight to the point. Thanks for the great tips.
Best tip I can give you is dont use plastic tanks but concrete. Concrete counteract/neutralise acid rain water.
Always wise to listen to folks who learned the hard way !
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with us Jim! It looks like you have your system really dialed in. Let the rain begin!
It's definitely a lot better. I think going as simple as possible is always the way to go. Much more sustainable and less chances of things going wrong.
Why not get a couple of 55 gallon drums, use the first one for a debris filter, the second one fills 3/4 before dumping into your other tanks.
Some people set up a diverter, so the first 5 gallons dump on the ground taking all the crap with it, so you just get clean rainwater.
We studied with Billy Kniffen who was with Texas A&M Extension. I think he trained the guy who wrote those books. We got a book from Billy called Rainwater Harvesting Planning and Installation offered through Texas A&M Extension. It has so much critical information that we call it our rain water bible. LoL! You might look for it! I hope your tanks fill up this summer!
There is no substitute for good planning/design 🔥⛈🦠
You're so articulate with thoughtful presentation that inspires me to do this in the future. Thank you.
Great video! These are tips that would be hard to anticipate without the experience that you've gained the hard way. One of the functions of any pioneer is to scout the territory and report back to the folks following behind. Thanks for breaking trail.
Nothing will seal the gutter when they are 100" long as the expansion and contraction of the Aluminum is going to either take the joints apart or take the screws loose and then they come down.
hmmm, that's a good point.
Hopefully that will take a couple years(or better a few),might be a good time to start a fund to start saving to replace.
Gutters don't need sealants esp.
IF they are properly spaced and placed, correctly angled and sloped and well-placed proper supports. Sealants have chemicals which are dangerous to health and unsafe for drinking... I am speaking from experience. Many decades thriving on rain-water for drinking and other house use from my rain-catcher.
Thanks Jim for going over how you have changed your system since the first time you were harvesting rain water. I really enjoyed this.
Flex seal....yeah baby! Glad you used it.😁
Can you show us how much you've collected with the last week of storms? I am so looking forward to seeing the payoff, to all your work, with rainwater pouring into those plastic tanks! :)
It's dark in the poly tanks, but I know we've collected close to 500 gallons so far.
Great video. One thing I notice is those looooong horizontal stretches of pipe over the cistern. They will sag within a year based on my experience. This may be OK for you and if not, think about support to keep them straight before they kind of melt-sag based on sun :)
Good point and being black won't help.
Jim...great job!!! May I suggest that you form the filter screens over a ball or cone before installing them...that way any debris will deflect and not clog the screen. Keep up the great work...very inspiring indeed.
Such a great, organized, concise video. Seriously underrated channel!
It might be wise to add a cleanable U trap between the horizontal collector pipe and the down-across-up link to the tank farm. Your filters will keep out most bugs and big particles but dust and sand may get through and over time block that underground gray pipe.
super informative, thank you!!
Thank you it was helpful to generate my system in the woods 🎉
Well spoken thoughtful video. Thank you for sharing all these tips. You might have read Geoff Lawton, an expert on water retention for soil.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. This will help many!
If you put the screens at a slight angle the water will clean off the debri as it flows into the pipe
I like making dirt, catching rain and converting sunshine into energy. I have other hobbies but those are among my favorites.
I'd be interested in how much water you end up getting in the underground cistern (during the monsoon season)
Also, please answer why you didn't move the poly tanks closer to the end of the shed (between the shed and underground cistern) as that would have simplified your piping considerably
@@onlyscience7120 yes, that's theory
I'm asking what he ACTUALLY got
@@onlyscience7120 that's ridiculous logic.
I'm not asking for that level of precision and no one else expects that either.
I lived in a RV for years and know about what a person uses per day on average and it's 8 to 20 gallons. Yes, they've got plants and livestock but the day after a rain in that large of an underground cistern their use MIGHT be 1/10 of an inch, if that.
So a BALLPARK estimate of the water he captured is entirely feasible and practical.
Great explanation 🙏
❤️❤️I love you two! You are so down to earth! 😂😂it’s such a wonderful undertaking!
jest gutters, live in Oregon have to clean my gutters twice a year they plug up, I know down in your neck of the woods no gutter on any houses you are going the right direction thanks
Awesome video thanks for sharing
I didn't know that about silicone, thanks!
It`s always such a pleasure looking at your videos.. I really love all Jess arts, she is so talented. Love all the types of work that you do, we can learn from you.
Cape Town South Africa
might want to avoid making gutters out of concrete..lol
Mean!
@@honthirty_ I'm joking..
I could tell you a few ideas. Harvesting water, not only collecting rain.
Great video.
Totally agree about Brad Lancaster's books.
Thank you.
Good Job there Jim !!!!
You should also put a slight down turn on your sheets of iron, this will stop water running back under the panels
First the new Cat pants last episode and now baseball catcher's pants. 8:09
Could be time to say goodbye to the highwaters. 5:34.
Ha I have a request
Please
You have a large rain roof
With a wet drain to your tanks
When you get heavy rain..
With your rain gauge
You can monitor the flow in the 4inch PVC. If If hits maximum flow
the screened tees in your system should over flow
And which ones started / where over flowing
If you can keep tract of those numbers
That could help some of us designing a similar system..
,(I have read what the books say their flow rate should be
But yours is the real world)
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Thank You
Hello friend, I've watched about 8 episodes of ur efforts out there, & I'm enjoying ur progress, as ur moving along. That 14,000 gallon cistern was an impressive build. Nice design too.***!!! Love Brthrn Jeff B.
Mistakes a master it makes.
Two questions...
1) Why didn't you build your pole barn high enough to park your RVs under?
2a) Why drop down to (under)ground level, the ten foot section at the end of your gutter run?
2b) Why not just run the pipe straight across to the cistern and then over to the black holding tanks? (Ok, technically three questions...lol}
Thanks and I enjoy your videos.
My thoughts precisely. Adding those four? extra 90's plus the rise on the other side will be a huge resistor in the water flow.
Installing a pipe stand either beside or on top of the cistern I think would have been far more practical and probably less work in the end.
I thought the same thing. As he was saying “keep it simple”, he’s got that drop, 10’(?) stretch underground and then 6’+ back up to the top of the cistern. Why not just run that span overhead? 🤔
Thanks for sharing! Most of Arizona have desert like environment but I wonder Why people/you don't live in the Northern part like Flagstaff areas??
I do not know if you do J but if you don't have a screen over your over flow pipe as you do all your inlets it will allow all things alive small enough to get into your water
From where i see, the second overflow pipe is redundant, as it's about the same level as the overflow opening at the other pipe.
Thank you guys for your time and energy in sharing your journey with us.
Thank you so much for your humerus you and knowledge
I live in Bermuda and every house in Bermuda has a tank underneath it and catch is it’s own rainwater.
You should do some research on the gutters we use on our Bermuda roofs. I think you will want Do what we do on your domes
Love yall
Take the hit, and simplify your system.
Drain those poly tanks into the cistern and move them.
Also, consider putting a T in your pipe for a drop down clean out.
I'll be using UV lights and silver to try to make the water safer. Also will be solar boiling to distill it and If that isn't enough my excess wind power will help distill it
Jim, if you are anything like me you will do it at least three times before you get it right. The system you have should work well but you will have fine dirt build up in the pipe underground which will be a problem over time. Build a diverter to catch the first flush and this should solve the problem.
Yep thumps up here too!
Learning by Doing 👍🏻
At least you are getting some good rain this year, here in Sierra Vista, we didn't get a lot last year. This year is another story as I'm sure you know.
It looks great! I hope you collect a whole lot of water from your system.
Dreamed of moving out there before I moved. When googling the areas I always saw these gaint green circles. I hope those who can drain wells are listening and
reevaluate thier systems.
Will check out your other vid and pick up a copy of those books.
Thanks
Hi guys , I'm far from being a expert like some of the people so I'll just follow along and pay attention .
Keep it close , keep it simple.....gotcha👍
Thanks for the tips Mr. Jim. Time to catch some water now! Good luck and keep us updated.
Thanks CB! Will do.
Thanks for the video! Was recently wondering about filtering the water from harvesting which might contain bird poop. Would love to see a video on how people treat harvested water. Thanks!
Sweeping 90, good idea.
Why does the pipe go all the way down into the ground before going back up again?? Why not just let it go straight across before making that turn to the black water tanks?
He said that in the other video. The scaffolding would get in the way.
Thank you both for sharing your experiences in this whole process.
As a young farmer...you have really inspired
You can reduce the seams on your gutter buy trimming at one end of gutter and slipping it into the other end you go from two seams to one that way and were the downspouts come through the gutter you merely have to poke a hole through the gutter or cutting x and then bend the flaps down and attach downspout to that they do have 2 inch drop-ins where you use a 2 inch hole saw in the bottom of the gutter attached to downspouts
Someday in the future, You could expand the roof a bit to cover the RVs, and colect a bit more rain while saving the RVs roof from the scorching sun.
Well, hopefully eventually they will move into the earth bag house and not be living in the RV at all.
Screens at 45 degrees in the horizontal will auto clean and a chain might help the water get in
Tank you for you information
great information 😎
Have you considered how you are going to clean out the pipes you put underground? and the sand and dirt on the roof will find its way into the lowest point in the pipes and that is underground.
You might want to consider putting a 'First Flush' system in as that would be much easier to clean.
Thanks guys💯💙
Thanks for these! Very helpful
Thanks for the information. You are absolutely correct about the hard 90's - you want to avoid those, You may want to split to multiple 30's or 45's to make the bends and limit those. Also, as someone else mentioned, I'd move the two tanks closer to the roof. I'd also cover them to try and keep the water cooler and less evaporation.
Why the exposed black pipe- is that for cold nights?
I'm curious.
Can you tell me a little bit about your water treatment over time?
Do you have to treat water for algae or anything? Like adding tablets? Etc?
Thanks for Taking the time to make this
Thank you
Great video
Great information.
Super good info when I set up my rain water harvesting.
Thank you sir.
Thank you Jim and Jessica for sharing your rainwater harvesting experience. These are very helpful considerations and I appreciate your generosity. ❤
super good video!! great info. I hope it makes you lots of money.
Jim. Excellent video. Straight to the point. Thank you.
Research is the way to go. Your doing a good job
Good suggestions
Such a ambitious and ingenious system.. just amazing Jim .
Great job on this video.
Amazing trailblazing!
Nice 👍👍👍👍 work
Beautiful rainbow. Very well thought out, I appreciate the tip about the 90's most.
Thanks for sharing this video and your rainwater harvest tips. How often do you sweep the perimeter of the cistern roof to minimize dust and dirt from entering your cistern? Wishing you and Jessica a blessed summer season with abundant rain and moderate sleeping temperatures. Peace brother.
You said it best. K.I.S.S. Method. I hope monsoon season fills your tanks.
Good usable information, take care and God bless amen.
System looks great
If you find the 4 inch screens building up with dirt
They make 4" to 6" PVC adaptors
Might help with clogging
Also if some of you may have problems thinking these sweeps may be to restrictive
In electrical the 4" PVC sweeps have a much larger radius
I hope to build a small system for my garden one day. I appreciate the info. Thank you!
thank you
Enjoyed the show
Amen~!
Good to see you'll be saving and using you're own water supply and looks good how you've done it to me...I understood why you changed it now from the old system all trail and error but that's how you learn love watching you both always amazing 👏
Very well done but logical things to think about.