Nissan Rogue: Blows Fuse For Marker Lights
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In this video I have a look at a 2010 Nissan Rogue that was dropped off from another shop. They were having issues with it blowing the marker light fuse every time they turn on the lights. They thought the issue was in the rear tail lights but come to find out.... it wasn't 😉
-Enjoy!
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I thought you were in for a nightmare. But as it turned out, it wasn't all that bad. Could have easily went the other way. Awesome video especially for the new techs just learning. Hopefully someone learns how to apply your logic to diagnosing problems.
As soon as you pulled the radio out I saw the illumination wire and wanted to point at it through the computer! LOL. I'm glad you found it. Its crazy all of those lights are on the same ckt.
Using that headlight bulb and the amp clamp is genius. With a little time you can find the spot where it is shorted. Good job
Agreed. Substituting a load for the fuse and tracing current flow is genuis. Been troubleshooting low voltage wiring for 40 years, and now today I learned a new tip and have a new tool in the arsenal. Thanx Eric O.!
Every mechanic does that I have 4 different headlight bulbs with wires on them in my electrical drawer you should always load test a wire even if it has voltage because even 1 strand of wire can carry 12 volts but won’t be able to carry a load
Guarantee a must add to our tool list of diagnostic. Great video
Doing a root cause defect analysis is the key to effective repair. Eric is very skilled in that area. I always start by asking myself, "What changed?". I suspected an amateurish after market radio installation and Eric correctly found the cause. Good Job!
As a former car audio install technician, I can say with certainty that this happens a lot from people installing their own stereos
Then we have to fix their wiring spaghetti...
An obvious mistake on the part of the installer
Great job getting to the root of the issue Eric.
Keep up the great work, I look forward to more content from you in the future
"What's also available to the public is the comment section.. so go down there with your comments, questions, concerns..."
Good diagnostic process as usual. Thanks!
As soon as you pulled the radio out and it had the wire hanging there...YUP...there's your problem lady!
I always secure any extra wires like that one to avoid this very situation...great find Eric!
Working as a commercial truck technician I take the same approach with trouble shooting shorts but I substitute the headlight for a back up alarm due to the fact I’m rarely in a position to see the bulb…guys in the shop love it 😂
I did the same approach working on combines. The engine is a long way from the cab.
Had exact same problem on my sons car. I hurriedly swapped in an aftermarket stereo (no wire nuts) as he was moving out of state for grad school. About a month later he calls and says his instrument lights quit and a fuse was blowing. Fortunately I recalled seeing those pre-stripped wires and told him to check them out. He taped them up and everything was good.
Thanks for another good video and trip down memory lane 😀
I haven’t finished the video yet but you said Nissan, marker lights, aftermarket radio. My Nissan frontier was the aftermarket radio. Now on to finish the video. Mr. Eric you are amazing.
As soon as you pointed out the aftermarket radio I figured the source was probably a pinched wire rubbed through. pretty much every install has lots of extra wires just jammed in behind the radio.
As always a very logical approach to drilling down any possible reason why this problem exists. Eric is just like Lt Columbo from the tv series. He always found the culprit. It’s also nice to see other shops are aware of Eric’s abilities and are willing to accept help and get their customers their answer.
Good work. Could have been intermittent with that wire bouncing around and been a pain. But you caught it failed. Great. Thank you.
It could have been a real Beotch, if that wire only grounded out when it felt like it. 😎
Yeah when you're doing those radios can't leave loose wires dangling , did one on my daughters 2000 civicyears ago, never had any problems with it . Eric you are wiring master . Cheers from northern indiana usa
Those single DIN Kenwood radios usually come with a pair of removal keys that make the head unit removal less than 10 seconds. However, the chance the car owner put those keys in the glove box is usually about the same odds as a customer keeping their wheel lock socket in the glove box. Cheers!
with my kenwood i just put 2 butterknives as a key because i lost them
See... when you're that good it starts to be expected. I still appreciate You and the process.
Brilliant! I'm an apprentice motorcycle mechanic and I love learning from your electrical troubleshooting videos. You drawing on the diagram to explain things was excellent. Thanks!
excellent office manager!! she always has pertinent comments😇
For the first time I spot the problem before Eric. I was screaming at my tv, “the orange wire”. It made my day.
Ah the old electron flow theory vs hole flow theory. Great job Eric.
Being an F-111E/EF and F-15 C/E/EX Avionics tech for 30 years I agree 100 percent!! I always loved those odd ball fixes that nobody else could find!! JOB SATISFACTION! Great find man!
Hi Eric, I'm feeling a bit of Ground Hog Day, here. Did you do one like this several months ago. It was real "be-otch" to figure it out, but of course you always figure them out. These videos are normally fascinating to watch. Thanks Eric!
"Find the short" is probably my favourite type of SMA video.
Excellent video. Some old fashion logic in trouble shooting. My problem as a shade tree mechanic is I rarely have a wiring diagram. Well, Eric just explained how he gets the wiring diagrams. Now I have no excuses.
You make it look easy, and its not for everyone. Nice work!
Electrical gremlins are my nightmare. But I love watching your logical and process. This kind of content is invaluable.
Another amazing job!!!, any houses for sale near your shop, a mechanic like you is priceless!!!
I saw that illumination wire and was amazed you didn’t. I do have experience in installing aftermarket radios back in the day and always made sure I soldered and taped everything. Didn’t know about heat shrink tubing back then. That 3M electrical tape is the best.
Once again, logic and common sense prevail. Thanks as always, Eric!!
I don't no much on electrical but love watching you diagnose and explaining what's going on. Awesome video as always Eric.
I didnt get using the bulb in place of the fuse until I went back to ohms law, V=IR. Good stuff Mr. O!
Your test light using a bulb and a scrap harness has saved me a lot of headaches. Especially when you factor in load, I've had 12V until I put the bulb test light and then I have nothing.... The ole under load trick. Thanks again!
It would be nice if factories would take pictures of these components as there assembling the vehicles to make better references for the repair manuals.
Lol was shouting at the tv when I spotted the wire. Hope you didn't lose too much time.
Love your work 👍
Thanks Mr O that was a fantastic video,your learning me lots 😊 great to see Mrs O’s got your back😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the amazing content! I’m always learning new tricks from your videos. The headlight in place of the fuse is absolutely brilliant!!
Mr. O to me is Mr. M for Merlin the magician!! I learn so much from these videos they are fascinating to watch. Can’t wait for the next one!!
When you said the orange was an illumination wire and I seen the splice in it I’m yelling that’s gotta be it! Impressive work dude!
Excellent diagnosis, as usual. I've fitted many aftermarket car stereos. I always use good electrical practice. Never, ever, leave unused wires, (Illumination, antenna, amp, or even unused speaker wires) just hanging. Insulate or terminate.
I too love these electrical videos. True story: back in my yooth, I installed a nice Sony in my Honda, joining bare wires by twisting real tight and then using crumpled up news paper to hold it all in place. It worked without any hint of the sins committed during install. When I drove it to the junkyard 100,000 miles later, the Sony was still working and solidly in place.
@@harrylister804 I bet if you did that to someone elses car, it would have caught fire as it pulled away. LOL
I have to laugh at all the shops that probably take credit for these fixes, after they needlessly tear apart half the car. Little does the owner know it was the Guru from SMA that saved the day. Great stuff as always !!!
I learned something with you putting the lamp across the fuse and will be good to know, I did see the bear wire as soon as you pulled the radio forward and thought that was the problem, manny thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍😀
Thank you sir my head was swimming then i saw the exsposed wire when you pulled the stereo out.
When I worked for a Ford dealer in 1979 we had a customer who bought a new Ford pickup. It had been rustproofed at the dealer. The customer took it home on Friday and brought it back on Monday with no dash lights, tail lights or marker lights. The service manager thought the mechanic who did the undercoating might have pinched a tail light wire when they were removed and replaced to spray in the undercoating. He didn't find anything so it became my problem. Driving it into my stall, I noticed the aftermarket radio and pulled that out first. The factory radio picked up it's ground through the case and had a two wire connector for radio power and the light and a separate connector for the speaker. The aftermarket radio also had a grounded case but it had a ground wire in case it was used in a plastic dash. The customer had connected the light wire to the radio ground wire on the aftermarket radio. The radio light used the radio power and was only on when the radio was turned on.
Always an impressive video..I'd have no idea where to start...and that's why there's Eric. Awesome work as usual. Kudos to you..
In 1973 I was in an auto train apprenticeship at a Chevy and Olds (damn I miss Oldsmobiles) when I was asked to find out why the fuse for the tail marker lights kept blowing on a new Olds 98 LS ( it was owned by a prominent lawyer in Revenant Ohio. After basically tearing the car apart tracing the wires and many hours of frustration it came to be that at the factory someone had run a screw through the wire feeding the vanity mirror on the passenger side sun visor 😅.
I'm sorry to say no praise for me either-or. This was a job that you were extremely capable of doing You've done it many many times we all know you could Do it. But I will say a great job I like always 🍦 from watching you in all the times that you've hunted down some broken wire or rub through wire somewhere knowing that just having 12 volts on something doesn't mean much It has to carry a load. I was able to track down a bad wire in our camper and fix it. So thank you very much for teaching me how to do that. I was having trouble with this wire and then all of a sudden I was thinking so what if it means it's got 12 volts Eric always says going to carry a load light bulb time.
Well I been a construction electrician for the first seven years now industrial electrical maintenance for five years and I’ve worked on junk my whole life cause that’s all I’ve ever owned when I was little if you wanted to ride it you had to be able to make it crank cause dad wasn’t getting off the couch to help I say all that to say that I’ve never thought of tracing a short down like this I’m blown away that I’ve never thought of or anybody never showed me this but now seeing it I feel dumb thanks again Eric you sure know 37:30 how to make a man feel small
Enjoyed the logical Troubleshooting. GOOD JOB !!!!
A tip from an old Laboratory Analyst, If you get burnt/hot fingers, pinch your ear-lobe with them. Dissipates the heat and you don't feel much pain in your ear-lobe as not many nerves there.
Once again, the Master makes it look easy! Thanks for taking us along.
That was a good catch. Even though it didn't turn out to be an issue in this case why in the world would Nissan tie all of those interior lights with the rear markers? It only saved them a few feet of wire, a couple of connectors and fuse hookup. That way all the interior stuff is on a separate circuit. That would make chasing the demons a fraction of a bit easier. But anyways good methodical approach and taking us for the bobbing fancy walk. I really wish that all of those Resource sites that you promote in nearly every video would offer you a sponsorship. You deserve it. Especially the diagnostic tool fellas. Of course my days in the shop are over now but back in the day when the circuits were much simpler I can remember using some cobbled together older cousin analogs of what they sell today. Fun times and bald spots from pulling hair.
This whole video was mad better with love story between yourself and Mrs. O.
Good Job Eric, and I had a suspicion that it was the aftermarket radio. That is because every time I have had a fuse blowing consistently like you had, it was usually the result of one of 4 things those being, 1:aftermarket radio, 2: aftermarket EQ/Booster, 3: aftermarket CB and 4: aftermarket trailer brake control unit. usually hacked in right off the cigarette lighter. And I know Eric that you remember CB radio's and those aftermarket trailer brake control units that everyone who had a truck back in the 1980's had in their truck if they pulled trailers. And sometimes the partial removal of an old CB radio or something, that left part of the glass fuse head hanging in the dashboard that would end up touching metal.
"you're a wizard Eric" "And a thumping good one I'd wager"
Nice job! The blame is on the person who installed the radio - you never leave a loose wire without insulation - didn't blow then, but became a ticking time bomb, for someone else to defuse.
"That sucker blows hard" 😂 can't get enough of this guy, keep it up my guy
You must have been at a bad angle. When you pulled out that [probable faulty item], I saw what I thought was an exposed wire just dangling, but, because my eyesight prolly isn't any better than yours, I had to give you the benefit of the doubt. In any case, nice work! I like it.
Nothing like creating your own self issues these aftermarket stuff does nothing but cause issues but it does keep us in business!!!!
Finally it got thru my sense head why you use a test light in those situations. Thanks for the explanations, this will help in my endeavors to be the mechanic of my group of friends.
Great video Eric! I fixed a few of my friends cars and I tell you, I cringe when I see people cut into harnesses. My radio was ordered from Crutchfield and I installed it but what the nice thing about Crutchfield is, they will make the conversion adapter so you don't have to cut wires specific to auto manufacturer and model!
Alpine still running great😊
Got to love those short circuits.
Nice Eric! I thought it would be the Rogue tailgate frame leaking causing green crusties - I have seen several other Rogues with that problem.
I haven’t seen the light with amp clamp trick. Thanks for teaching us the tricks of the trade!! Next on tool list amp clamp and a setup for headlight bulb with connectors for testing. I might be able to do it since you did it!!
Lol yeah when I used to install car stereos and alarms back in the 90's, and I ALWAYS used a bit of heat shrink to insulate any unused accessory wires! 🙄👍
5:28 I love that headlight truck, thanks.
4:17 "Let's see who's blowing what here" -- Takes me back to high school! 😀
Hey Eric great work!! Please share the part number to the pliers your using for pulling fuses. Thanks
Can't believe that they hit that 1 wire figured it wasn't to the right which was the app for market radio and Remote start Jump right to the back without having Proper wiring diagram Plus White trick really taught me something
Makes perfect sense when i think about it. Can't believe I wouldn't have thought to put a load across a blown fuse to check for an active short👍
Sure you would have - but you'd have determined which side of the fuse was power, then substituted the power with the battery+ connected to the test light, and then checked for a ground on the other side of the fuse.
My son in law paid over 50 dollars extra for the wiring harness to put in an aftermarket radio in a 1995 cougar XR7 15 years ago but no wires cut well worth it
For the first time I beat Eric to the right answer by 30 seconds or so - after years of watching! I have probably installed more radios than he has, occasionally with poor results - catching the amplifier power wire in the parking brake ratchet - before the fuse - was especially memorable - pull the parking brake, all the lights go out, the engine quits and there is smoke and fire rolling out from under the dash onto your legs. The fusible link between the battery and everything that wasn't the starter burned in two under the hood, but not before the amplifier wire got white hot.
As soon as I saw the naked wire end I thought - "Try the lights now that that wire isn't touching something grounded."
Aftermarket remote starters and aftermarket radios (in that order!) are the prime suspects now. Before manufactures made trailer wiring provisions the armature installed trailer plugs were almost always the cause of electrical weirdness that couldn't be explained by bad grounds - if everything is crazy at the same time, it's a ground problem.
As soon as you pulled that radio out and that orange wire was just hanging there I said "well, there's your problem lady!"
Great video and tip to use a bulb to replace a fuse. Learned something new today
Just out of curiosity, I wish we positively knew who did the aftermarket install. Thanks
Yes, Ben Franklin borked all of us electrical engineers by referencing current flow from positive to negative during his electrostatics experiments. Old Ben had no way of knowing which terminal actually gained mass (electrons) or that most charge is actually carried by those little buggers. I think it actually took another 150 years or so to definitively establish those facts. So, positive current is referenced in the flow direction of the positive charges...or the "holes" as it were.
A valid point, but if Franklin had chosen the opposite sign, the vast majority of electronic circuits (tube or transistor) would have negative Vcc / HT rails, and people would _still_ be complaining that it was illogical. "The higher voltage should be positive!"
@@Tevildo Yes sir and a disagreement that will likely never be settled. As the saying goes, arguing with an engineer is like wrestling a pig in the mud. Pretty soon you realize that the pig likes it. 🙄
It’s not very often I’m watching one of these videos and yelling at the screen, “it’s that orange wire!”
This is the EXACT reason why when I buy aftermarket radios I buy the connectors specific for my vehicle so it's a plug and play install.
Right! I did one on my last truck. The key is wiring the GM adapter to the radio’s connector the right way too. Every connection between the two connectors was soldered and covered with heat shrink, not wire nuts and electrical tape.
It’s apparent that the aftermarket installer was focused on quantity, not quality.
Eric O is one lucky guy. I say that because his brain is special at diagnostics AND he's got a great wife to support him.
Never doubted you 🙂👍.Regards Richard 🇬🇧
Very good, Eric, you got another one.
Good job
so with remote start and aftermarket alarms they have 1 parking light flash wire . a lot of new cars have a left and a right parking lamp wire or a front and a back parking lamp wire. some installers will cheat and twist both of them wires together or they will diode isolate them so the remote start flashes with the two wires connected together but they're diode isolated when you turn the car on. the right way is to actually use to use relay. also the remote starters and aftermarket alarm systems have a dedicated fuse for the parking lamp flasher wire.
Eric, what can I say when everyone else said it all. Lesson learned.
I lerndid something today. Good job Eric.
eric you are on the top of your game enjoy your vidios thanks
As soon as you pulled that radio out and I saw the wire nuts and that unhooked orange illumination wire I knew it, If only you could hear us talking through the screen.
I love the fact that this proves the Parts Cannon is a _bad_ idea. In this case you could replace all 17 components without fixing the problem.
A good wiring diagram is worth it`s weight in gold, so to speak. Logic rules yet again.😁 Nice class Prof. O.
Great detective work.
The old "Lets make it easier for people by partially stripping all the pigtails" so they can short out against the frame when you shove the new radio in trick. That's the 3rd time this month!😄
We knew you could do it.
Light to substitute fuse, interesting.
Thanks.
Logic 👍👍👍
The old 'wire whisper' does it again!
Simple short fixed with some heat shrink probably been back there for ages and then boom it shorted
Eric, always enjoy watching a wiring short video. Liked how you used and amp meter to follow the circuit. I probably learned a few things along the way or at least some things to consider. Thanks for Sharing!
Awesome Diag Eric O
Dang Skippy that was amazing 🤩
Instead of a light bulb on the shorted circuit fuse receptacle a old seat belt buzzer works nicely as you can hear it until you disconnect the shorted circuit, no need to keep checking if the bulb it is lit up, and a compass will indicate a current flow in a wire too.
Assuming you don't go crazy waiting to find the probkem
@@MrMebigfatguy A little duct tape as volume control works good
Great training video. I love using a test light to load a short circuit.
Using light bulb as a tester was great, thanks
3:50
NEVER trust a test light, ALWAYS use a volt-meter to test for actual 12V ...
Had an issue where a circuit board went corroded and i was reading 4.5V and it WAS lighting up the test light thinking it was good when it was actually bad
"We'll just shove all them wires back in there... not a big radio install guy." LOL :)
As soon as the radio was pulled and I saw the wirenuts , spaghetti aftermarket harness, and uncapped illumination lead I knew that was it. I’m a former car audio installer, used to see this everyday. Total hack job.