As a Pacers fan, its been so confusing and frustrating watching him play. Every time he's been asked if he's playing through injury, he has denied it, but I just dont believe him. His back is 100% giving him problems right now. He puts on a back brace and sits on an elevated cushion every single time he goes to the bench. He has lost all ability to beat his man off the dribble and get into the paint consistently, so he just keeps settling on these deep sidestep threes that just arent falling. And even when he does touch the paint, he looks scared of all contact and ends up passing out of drives. If he really is dealing with a back injury, I'm totally ok with him getting shut down for however long he needs. He is the franchise, I still have full belief in him, but this just isnt working right now
@@superQman600There's a level to being 'figured out,' this man heralded the best offense in NBA history. Even if he wasn't scoring, he affected the defence, and we can see from what happened with Simmons -back issues and not wanting to take time off to fix it, that not trusting in their body affects everything else. He needs to sit, if there's an injury, if not he should take some time off and figure something out. It's jarring.
Because tyrese halibuton at his best is objectively the best thing for this team, but with hali obviously not looking like a superstar, let alone all star, they should probably run the offense similarly to when siakam was on the raptors. Maybe its genuinely just a rhythm thing and thats why theyre not giving up on hali, so theyre trying to get him as much reps on offense as the guy, but this is just a weird spot the pacers are in.
I would say Tyrese Haliburton has a Pacers problem. They've completely moved away from the style where he looks like an All-NBA player. And I'm sorry, but if you're building your team around Siakam and/or Mathurin, you've got nothing. The way we saw them play last year has such a higher ceiling. That said, I don't for a second buy that this is the "real" Haliburton. I mean, people point to the 1st half of last year and ask if it was an anomaly. Nonsense. He was great when he arrived in Indiana halfway through the previous season. He was also great in a more limited role with the Kings. He's always shot incredibly well. THIS feels like the anomaly.
6:44 it actually could potentially be Mathurin based off natural high scoring ability/athleticism and growing on defensive end, not sure if you’ve seen him every game this season but he’s been averaging about 20pts while not being the focal point, while he’s had a few rough nights like vs Rockets most of it is due to him sitting in the corner and the offense going through others some of that is on him to cut and take initiative but while he grows as a player the leader of the team could be Siakam for now and focus offense around them if Hali is out, I’ve personally felt Mathurin always had the higher upside than Hali because natural star tendencies of being able to get to the free throw line, finish very well, shot creation and able to get a shot off much better with his jumpshot in tough traffic, athleticism and the drive to be a better defender
I’ll be honest, I had the Pacers underperforming this year as kind of a given. While the talent level is obviously higher (though not by a ton, given that they had Prime Horford), the 2015 Hawks vibes were very clear. A team that achieved a lot based on chemistry and hot shooting, but rarely looked like they had another gear they could shift into when it was crunch time, be it the playoffs or teams keeping up with or outperforming them in the regular season. Despite all their firepower, despite injuries slowing multiple teams in front of them, they only reached the 6th Seed because they had a bottom-5 defense. Then in the playoffs they struggled to put away two injury-ravaged teams and then got absolutely bopped by the Celtics. The games appeared a lot closer than they actually were. Game 1 was a legit close game when Siakam carried them in the 2nd half. Game 2 wasn’t close at all with the C’s routinely targeting Halliburton. And Games 3 and 4, the Pacers were arguably better without him and still couldn’t hold up despite Brown being the only Celtic to have an efficient performance. The defense remained unaddressed, and while Mathurin is trying to carry them, the chemistry brought by Halliburton’s gravity is far lesser, with his gravity itself being far lesser. Tl;dr, I’m not surprised.
You know I think you’ve become one of my favorite basketball channels. Just turned the notifications on. Really good content, keep up the good work homie.
I feel like hali has been too good for too long to just become cheeks. He’s always been a good shooter and passer, if they didn’t “figure him out” first couple seasons then I don’t believe that is the reason. I think injuries might be why, it looks like he just doesn’t have his usual rhythm, but when it’s time to force something at 100% effort (end of game clutch buckets vs Celtics for example), he looks like he still has it. I think something is holding him back from his usual ability and rhythm, which is why the back injury is probably what’s bothering him, or the hamstring from last year
Uh oh. I have a feeling that the run to the Eastern Conference Finals last season for the Pacers could be a fluke just like the Hawks and the Blazers before them. I mean, since 1994, Indiana wanted to maintain the trend of reaching the Conference Finals in the year that finished with 4.
I can't believe that what used to be my favorite player before this season is now the next Ben Simmons if he doesn't fix his game... Please Tyrese... Please get you game again
Excuses excuses When Haliburton has a great game he's THAT GUY! When he underperforms, it's a back injury He's too invested in being a celebrity rather than being a franchise basketball player
People were calling him the next superstar for putting up the numbers he did for one month while Trae Young has put up those numbers for his entire career lol and bro get nothing but hate even though Trae a top 5 offensive player in the nba
Do yall in this community talk about what videos you’re gonna make? I feel like whenever somebody posts a video about a player or a team, everybody else does the same topic. This is probably my 3rd or 4th halo video today
Bro drives and predetermines his passes..so easy to time him up/play against. Was like that last year too the league has caught up. Combine that with his disgusting jumper and he is one of the most overrated player in the league
Please don't do any more generalities. That's all basketball UA-camrs do...or most of them. You're just another stats guy...regurgitating to stats instead of breaking down film and pointing out why he's not playing well. This is why I don't watch most of you.
Only fools like you would take this rough start to say that Wally was right about Haliburton. I doubt that he watched Haliburton enough to even have the grounds to make that claim.
Love the videos cone! The funniest thing is that this is like the third Halliburton video today I am going to watch
Appreciate the support!
me seeing Cone and Funkys video about the same topic cuz vibes
As a Pacers fan, its been so confusing and frustrating watching him play. Every time he's been asked if he's playing through injury, he has denied it, but I just dont believe him. His back is 100% giving him problems right now. He puts on a back brace and sits on an elevated cushion every single time he goes to the bench. He has lost all ability to beat his man off the dribble and get into the paint consistently, so he just keeps settling on these deep sidestep threes that just arent falling. And even when he does touch the paint, he looks scared of all contact and ends up passing out of drives. If he really is dealing with a back injury, I'm totally ok with him getting shut down for however long he needs. He is the franchise, I still have full belief in him, but this just isnt working right now
lol how can you tell someone that they’re lying about their body? Why couldn’t it be that he has been figured out and he needs to learn how to adjust?
@@superQman600There's a level to being 'figured out,' this man heralded the best offense in NBA history. Even if he wasn't scoring, he affected the defence, and we can see from what happened with Simmons -back issues and not wanting to take time off to fix it, that not trusting in their body affects everything else. He needs to sit, if there's an injury, if not he should take some time off and figure something out. It's jarring.
Bro is on the Markelle Fulz jump shot arc. J Cole gonna name drop him in a song soon
Not even close.
The worst part is they feature a guy who can legitimately carry them offensively in Siakam much much less than they should.
Because tyrese halibuton at his best is objectively the best thing for this team, but with hali obviously not looking like a superstar, let alone all star, they should probably run the offense similarly to when siakam was on the raptors. Maybe its genuinely just a rhythm thing and thats why theyre not giving up on hali, so theyre trying to get him as much reps on offense as the guy, but this is just a weird spot the pacers are in.
I would say Tyrese Haliburton has a Pacers problem. They've completely moved away from the style where he looks like an All-NBA player. And I'm sorry, but if you're building your team around Siakam and/or Mathurin, you've got nothing. The way we saw them play last year has such a higher ceiling.
That said, I don't for a second buy that this is the "real" Haliburton. I mean, people point to the 1st half of last year and ask if it was an anomaly. Nonsense. He was great when he arrived in Indiana halfway through the previous season. He was also great in a more limited role with the Kings. He's always shot incredibly well. THIS feels like the anomaly.
Well and his stat line from first half are totally different. The anomaly seems to be that first part
The thumbnail!!🤣🤣
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Gas was crazy he will get back to all star form. But he never was the guy media made him to be. Never was bettter than Fox
Him making Team USA over Ja was a travesty
4th Haliburton video on my sub list today...
Kings traded the right PG. Sabonis top 3 center in the league. Hali bum
Lol. He's not a bum. He's probably trying to play through an injury.
@@MrOctober44Nah he’s healthy. Could be a mental problem. Or he’s just at the right place and at the right time last szn (first half)
Sitting on the bench in France behind legends shattered his confidence.
Incoming Cone Curse. Tyrese bout to go off now
He got a gold medal in the Olympics by not contributing, he was thinking he could get a ring in the NBA doing the same.
6:44 it actually could potentially be Mathurin based off natural high scoring ability/athleticism and growing on defensive end, not sure if you’ve seen him every game this season but he’s been averaging about 20pts while not being the focal point, while he’s had a few rough nights like vs Rockets most of it is due to him sitting in the corner and the offense going through others some of that is on him to cut and take initiative but while he grows as a player the leader of the team could be Siakam for now and focus offense around them if Hali is out, I’ve personally felt Mathurin always had the higher upside than Hali because natural star tendencies of being able to get to the free throw line, finish very well, shot creation and able to get a shot off much better with his jumpshot in tough traffic, athleticism and the drive to be a better defender
getting distracted by white girls
Racist.
@@MrOctober44what? So the word "white" is racist now? Can I still say "green" or am I getting cancelled for that as well?
Kings fleeced
the 65 games ruke really fucked up things imo
And Fox is still going to be an All Star this year. Guess the Kings know something we don’t…
I’ll be honest, I had the Pacers underperforming this year as kind of a given. While the talent level is obviously higher (though not by a ton, given that they had Prime Horford), the 2015 Hawks vibes were very clear. A team that achieved a lot based on chemistry and hot shooting, but rarely looked like they had another gear they could shift into when it was crunch time, be it the playoffs or teams keeping up with or outperforming them in the regular season. Despite all their firepower, despite injuries slowing multiple teams in front of them, they only reached the 6th Seed because they had a bottom-5 defense.
Then in the playoffs they struggled to put away two injury-ravaged teams and then got absolutely bopped by the Celtics. The games appeared a lot closer than they actually were. Game 1 was a legit close game when Siakam carried them in the 2nd half. Game 2 wasn’t close at all with the C’s routinely targeting Halliburton. And Games 3 and 4, the Pacers were arguably better without him and still couldn’t hold up despite Brown being the only Celtic to have an efficient performance.
The defense remained unaddressed, and while Mathurin is trying to carry them, the chemistry brought by Halliburton’s gravity is far lesser, with his gravity itself being far lesser.
Tl;dr, I’m not surprised.
You know I think you’ve become one of my favorite basketball channels. Just turned the notifications on. Really good content, keep up the good work homie.
Appreciate it 🙏
I feel like hali has been too good for too long to just become cheeks. He’s always been a good shooter and passer, if they didn’t “figure him out” first couple seasons then I don’t believe that is the reason. I think injuries might be why, it looks like he just doesn’t have his usual rhythm, but when it’s time to force something at 100% effort (end of game clutch buckets vs Celtics for example), he looks like he still has it. I think something is holding him back from his usual ability and rhythm, which is why the back injury is probably what’s bothering him, or the hamstring from last year
Uh oh. I have a feeling that the run to the Eastern Conference Finals last season for the Pacers could be a fluke just like the Hawks and the Blazers before them.
I mean, since 1994, Indiana wanted to maintain the trend of reaching the Conference Finals in the year that finished with 4.
The Starbucks line messed up his back.
it's crazy how some players are shooting better than Haliburton from 3 consistently compared to his FG percentage.
Unfortunately Hali is having a really tuff season so far. His offense is special so hopefully he can figure it out soon
Cone just spoke negatively on Hali. I’m betting over on everything next game 😂
He was playing insane last year. Hope he turns it around soon.
If the Cone Curse works, then Indiana will have something to be grateful for for Thanksgiving
Its either he’s hiding an injury or we’re getting another Ben Simmons case. And i hope its just the first one
what's been worse so far, Luka's non effort on defense or Haliburton on offense
Genuine question, how come no video about the Celtics vs cavs? I was expecting one tbh if it went one way or the other
I can't believe that what used to be my favorite player before this season is now the next Ben Simmons if he doesn't fix his game... Please Tyrese... Please get you game again
Bro this reminds me of the movie thunderstruck when KD lost his basketball ability to a high school kid
Excuses excuses
When Haliburton has a great game he's THAT GUY!
When he underperforms, it's a back injury
He's too invested in being a celebrity rather than being a franchise basketball player
McConnell is completely outplaying him
There's only ever 5 superstars in the entire nba at a given moment . Haliburton is definitely not a superstar
People were calling him the next superstar for putting up the numbers he did for one month while Trae Young has put up those numbers for his entire career lol and bro get nothing but hate even though Trae a top 5 offensive player in the nba
There are times I’m watching Tyrese play and and I’m honestly convinced that I could play for the Pacers.
Do yall in this community talk about what videos you’re gonna make? I feel like whenever somebody posts a video about a player or a team, everybody else does the same topic. This is probably my 3rd or 4th halo video today
Lol. They're going to talk about current events. They're essentially news channels.
Im so happy I didnt pick Hali in fantasy 🙏
A guy has two decent seasons and y’all already called him a superstar that’s the problem
Unbelievable that this bum had a 35 pt double double vs my Knicks and has not had a good game since 🤦🏾♂️
Maybe his 2023-24 was an outlier season and this is who he truly is.
I am a Pacers fan in pain.
Not the only one
W Cone
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Bro drives and predetermines his passes..so easy to time him up/play against. Was like that last year too the league has caught up. Combine that with his disgusting jumper and he is one of the most overrated player in the league
Is it the play for a contract year curse? Once you get paid, you play like trash?
And he just got that $240 million guaranteed contract!….haha…nice investment
Olympics hurt his feelings
He doesn’t like to lifts weights, bro is a little baby. If he lifted more this wouldn’t be happening.
Finally time to fix his yeeyee shot form
Great assements became a member a few mins ago. Since the eastis so weak they should rest. My NYK are taking the east lolzz
Pacers have nice pierces tho but weak at the top
sorry but tyrese just hot last year & he was never better the d fox plus he hasn't been able to adjust his game since he was scouted
It’s Hali-burden now
Kings won the trade
His jumper is catching up to him 😂😂😂
Thats not how it works
Snow bunnies sucked the bball out of him lol
Please don't do any more generalities. That's all basketball UA-camrs do...or most of them. You're just another stats guy...regurgitating to stats instead of breaking down film and pointing out why he's not playing well. This is why I don't watch most of you.
the pacers are booty
Karma
Always said haliburton wasn’t a star. Watching him play you can tell. Ugly Shot. The Star thing came out of nowhere imo
Reggie miller had a ugly shot too lol
Delusional take, dude was a top 3 pg at the start of last season. Shit ton of assists on amazing shooting, dude was on the way to being a superstar.
That's just taking it too far he's overrated but he's still an OK star
@@cdex9288 top 3 pg lmao????? Curry Luka Brunson Ja Fox Trae Kyrie
@@JJ-ok6pb he was hyped up because of the in-season tournament run that didn’t matter at all and was terrible after that
wow, it's almost like he's a FAKE ALL STAR!!! WALLY WAS RIGHT!
Only fools like you would take this rough start to say that Wally was right about Haliburton. I doubt that he watched Haliburton enough to even have the grounds to make that claim.
@@urbaindelva7869 "rough start" he's been ass since last winter basically.
And only fools like you will believe that this front runner will ever bring a ship to indiana@@urbaindelva7869
his back is so clearly not healthy. he needs to rest
Needs to get 100% for sure
@@three_cone have you seen the stats about his home vs away? i feel like that's a big tell his back is the issue