Man good idea I got the same saw and those chips get all in your socks and shoes and will leave tiny spurs in your feet, improving collection on cuttings is needed on these dry cut saws for sure . Gives me an idea to make a shop vac type of suction setup maybe some kinda metal/wood workers dust collector.
Love your ideas and or solutions to some of the things that can just drive a man crazy. Dry cut saws are nice, but what a mess. I thing I'm goin to borrow your idea,,,Thanx
hey. good job on the catch tray. I have the same saw and I will build a catch tray. I only have a mig machine so mine will be sheet metal but great video.
My Evo saw needs this upgrade. The little chip tray in the back only catches about 1/3rd of the chips. I really like your off the table mount idea. I was thinking about making a narrow cart that raised the saw up to table height. So that way I could move it around when I need it. (My shop is only 20x60 so everything need to be on wheels) It's especially challenging when getting a delivery of full sticks, and the project you are working on is also in the way too!
I hear you man, most of my stuff is on wheels also, including the table the saw is mounted to. I made the chop saw so it's removable thinking some day I might have different things that would slip on and off those mounts on the end of the table, like the portaband, etc, but it's just too much of a hassle to move it, so it stays where it is, seems to work well there.
I'm making a very similar device for my saw, but I think I am going to maybe fill the tray with a bit of water, or put some sort of fire resistant fabric in the tray to prevent the ricochets from bouncing out. I've tried several different ideas and the saw still makes a mess everywhere. Those little chips are just the wrong size that you can't ignore them like grinder dust, but they're small enough they're hard to clean up quickly.
I think that's the biggest shortcoming of these saws is the chips don't really end up in the tray as intended. Might need to do both of those mods; the outfeed / stand and the chip collector. Nice job, Gary! TZ
You can get a heap of those shavings and sell it to some chinese place in china. Awesome idea! If any of the edges are sharp you an always use some door edge molding.
To help with the pie cuts pulling, weld the short sides of the channel first. tack the top first then butt it up against the table and you can put a little weight on it and then tack the bottom. Then weld the longer sides of the channel. I usually do tubing but channel would be easier since it has flat sides. Also to help with stainless i usually do 2/3 of an amp for every 1 thou of thickness. Looks like you were running a little hot not a big deal but makes your welds look a ton better with less heat and faster travel speed. good stuff keep it up
Actually I was running about what you just said. Had the foot pedal set on 90 amps, and was running 3/4. The heat was being put into it from moving too slow, at times i wasn't close enough and the puddle was really dragging, not really taking the filler, rod sticking at times, so that was slowing me down putting a lot of heat into it.
do you use tha saw to cut angles ? does the dust guard ends up in the way when cutting 45° ? awsome job you did there, i will build one too, including the extension thigny for long pieces. thanks for sharing.
Yes I do cut angles. The way the fence mitre's for angles it swings away from the guard chute, but if it interferes its only held on with one bolt that can come off quickly
There's some great welding videos on weldingtipsandtricks, Kevin Caron-Artist, Do-Rite Fabrication, Abom79, ChuckE2009... been enjoying your MWM videos though. Tom Lipton also has a few videos.. :-D
Gary, nice build. You would need magic to collect all of the chips from that saw, but it looks like your design gets a good percentage. You asked last week about video format and now that you have posted a narrated video, I like this format as well as the non narrated sum it up at the end. Maybe a little bit of each??? One question, can you tell me the height of your fab block tables and your older weld bench? Just trying to get some ideas.
Thanks RJ, yea that saw slings some chips. Thanks for the feedback on the format. I really like just showing the work and a quick summary at the end, if i try to talk throughout it, its hard for me to not get carried away and start rambling. i edited a lot of it out, but still a lot in there lol. i will measure those tables in a little while and post back.
Try adding a magnet in a zip lock bag to the tray and it will catch even more of those sharp shards before they reach the floor (provided they are just regular steel).
Any particular reason you chose stainless for the collection(?) chute? Also are you happy with the SWAG portable bandsaw table? I'm trying to decide to make my own or buy one and since you obviously use yours was wondering what you think. Thanks
If you like working with stainless, you need to swing by if you ever make it up to West Michigan. Our shop where I work is pretty impressive. The piece turned out nice. When does the laser table go on order? :)
Nice band saw. Def slow the blade rotation for the stainless. For welding your radius cuts obviously you learned you needed the smaller wire. I would go with no wire but not just a boring fuse weld. You can easily make a fuse weld look great with ripples by simply pausing almost like you were using filler. This way you can keep your heat even lower but your travel speed is the same. Try it out.
nice! like everyone else I'll do this to my evolution saw, it's so messy. one thing I noticed about your welding, is that your torch angle is quite extreme, and that might be causing the arc to wander. just my 2 cents 😀
+jamesfreddys yes it's a nice saw I picked it over the dewalt because the clamping system looked better. To really make it rock I am going to build a saw station similar to this one. I REALLY want that bans saw that is the ticket right there
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Looks good, seems like it catches most of the chips. As for the welding wire straightening try chucking the wire in a drill, clamp the other end, pull fairly tight and spin it up. Stainless is really sensitive to heat if you don't keep the travel speed up you will have problems. It also has a high coefficient of thermal expansion and poor thermal conductivity making it the distortion king.
Thanks Bill good tip on the wire straightening. There were times where I couldn't dab the rod because it was twisted in the wrong direction. Yea, I had this left over from another project, otherwise i would have never picked it, its a pain to work with.
hey mr gary love the idea i am constantly cleaning metal shavings lol without sounding stupid i see u have a carbide tooth type blade on ur chop saw, i have a 14 inch chop saw ive always used abrasive blades in. can i put the kind of blade in mine as u have in yours or it a different kind of saw? thanks sir
Hey Shaun, I didn't have good luck doing that. I tried putting a carbide blade on my old dealt abrasive saw and it worked for about 3 cuts and burned up the blade. This saw was designed to run the carbide blade. Look at the evolution carbide chop saw if your thinking about getting one
Shaun Williford Milwaukee makes a diamond grit blade made for an abrasive saw like urs. called the steelhead but there about 140$ a piece. just ordered one hoping to make chop saw more like a cold saw
Great idea,what are you welding with? I use my safety wire pliers to straiten mig wire.just cut lengths ,one end in a vise one in the pliers a little spin and surprisingly straight when finished.My work throws away alot of.045 mig wire,I never have to buy any..
Thanks for the tip, I will give that a try. The local welding stores here don't seem to carry .045, only .030 and .035. Pretty cool you can get that for free from your work! I am welding with a Eastwood/Chinese 200 amp AC/DC inverter machine. Not bad for what it is....
I just got a AHP 200x ,seems to work well for what I do,Its Chinese also and seem to be similar machines.You have great tutorials ,I would like to do some too,just not camera savvy .
Doesn't the AHP have pulse? That's really the main feature I don't have that I wish I did. Thanks about the videos. You don't have to be camera savvy. Just use your phone. a lot of the camera angles in my videos are shot with my iPhone.
I got it from Jody @ weldingtipsandtricks here on youtube. If you look at this video, he has a link to his store in the description. ua-cam.com/video/WSnj8AASuFs/v-deo.html
Which welding table, the fab block with the holes, or the one with the heavy plate? The fab block is just a kit you can order in any size you want, i have a video on it just a couple weeks ago on my youtube channel
Link to Chop Saw Cutting Station Build ua-cam.com/video/oxkv6djTnpM/v-deo.html
Love the idea. To save time, I get the feeling I can use an elbow from a 2x3 downspout for the chip collection.
Thanks Gary! I appreciate all the work you put into making these videos.
Thanks Tom, glad you like them.
Hi Gary,
Nice work on the addition to your saw, both the outfeed table and the chip collector.
Take Care,
Reid
Absolutely genius best metal work Monday,love the step by step format! Keep up he great work.
Thanks Jason, appreciate it.
Came out great Gary! Plus it is easy to dump, great job. The mitering function on the band saw is super sweet!
Thanks Tom!
I'm really digging this build, especially because I'll be buying that saw shortly and I may do this myself.😁
Great Idea. I like it. I need one for my Metal Saw. Thanks for sharing.
very nice build! pie cuts are extra work but they add nice detail and that tray will save hours of sweeping
Cool idea! And great Chop Saw :)
Thanks man
Great presentation skills. Good, brief explanations.
Wow, that's a great idea!
Nice fabrication, job well done
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Phil for watching.
love the build great job
Nice work Gary
beautiful job
very cool. That is going to make a huge difference.
Maybe less cleaning i hope, thanks sir.
Your new band saw is a BEAST!
Yea it seems to be working well.
Very cool ! You are a great inspiration!
Thanks sir.
very nice amazing work as always Gary....
Thanks sir, appreciate it.
Man good idea I got the same saw and those chips get all in your socks and shoes and will leave tiny spurs in your feet, improving collection on cuttings is needed on these dry cut saws for sure . Gives me an idea to make a shop vac type of suction setup maybe some kinda metal/wood workers dust collector.
Love your ideas and or solutions to some of the things that can just drive a man crazy. Dry cut saws are nice, but what a mess. I thing I'm goin to borrow your idea,,,Thanx
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hey. good job on the catch tray. I have the same saw and I will build a catch tray. I only have a mig machine so mine will be sheet metal but great video.
My Evo saw needs this upgrade. The little chip tray in the back only catches about 1/3rd of the chips. I really like your off the table mount idea. I was thinking about making a narrow cart that raised the saw up to table height. So that way I could move it around when I need it. (My shop is only 20x60 so everything need to be on wheels) It's especially challenging when getting a delivery of full sticks, and the project you are working on is also in the way too!
I hear you man, most of my stuff is on wheels also, including the table the saw is mounted to. I made the chop saw so it's removable thinking some day I might have different things that would slip on and off those mounts on the end of the table, like the portaband, etc, but it's just too much of a hassle to move it, so it stays where it is, seems to work well there.
Bravo!
cool catchall
Thanks Stu
great idea Gary..
Thanks for checking it out Pete!
Very god saludos desde México city
looks like it's working well
Thanks Jim
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I'm making a very similar device for my saw, but I think I am going to maybe fill the tray with a bit of water, or put some sort of fire resistant fabric in the tray to prevent the ricochets from bouncing out. I've tried several different ideas and the saw still makes a mess everywhere. Those little chips are just the wrong size that you can't ignore them like grinder dust, but they're small enough they're hard to clean up quickly.
I think that's the biggest shortcoming of these saws is the chips don't really end up in the tray as intended. Might need to do both of those mods; the outfeed / stand and the chip collector. Nice job, Gary!
TZ
Thanks Tom, appreciate you watching.
cool video
Thanks man
Nice job :-)
Thank you sir.
I very much like yr welding table any plans
You may want to cover the tray and mak a small funnel from fine wire mesh screen to keep all the grit and chips from flying out. Great project
Yes, I need to modify this a bit more for sure, thanks for the thoughts!
Nice welding. Could you have cut out pie slices but left them all connected and bent the tube then welded?
You can get a heap of those shavings and sell it to some chinese place in china. Awesome idea! If any of the edges are sharp you an always use some door edge molding.
How many RPM's does your chop run at? Thanks for the vids.
To help with the pie cuts pulling, weld the short sides of the channel first. tack the top first then butt it up against the table and you can put a little weight on it and then tack the bottom. Then weld the longer sides of the channel. I usually do tubing but channel would be easier since it has flat sides.
Also to help with stainless i usually do 2/3 of an amp for every 1 thou of thickness. Looks like you were running a little hot not a big deal but makes your welds look a ton better with less heat and faster travel speed.
good stuff keep it up
Actually I was running about what you just said. Had the foot pedal set on 90 amps, and was running 3/4. The heat was being put into it from moving too slow, at times i wasn't close enough and the puddle was really dragging, not really taking the filler, rod sticking at times, so that was slowing me down putting a lot of heat into it.
There was a lot of bounce back, I would add a lid with a hinge that has a hole the same size as the extraction nozzle
do you use tha saw to cut angles ? does the dust guard ends up in the way when cutting 45° ? awsome job you did there, i will build one too, including the extension thigny for long pieces. thanks for sharing.
Yes I do cut angles. The way the fence mitre's for angles it swings away from the guard chute, but if it interferes its only held on with one bolt that can come off quickly
Nice work Ramsey! Maybe toss some Neodymium Magnets in the pan to keep the chips from bouncing out or spilling. ;-)
There's some great welding videos on weldingtipsandtricks, Kevin Caron-Artist, Do-Rite Fabrication, Abom79, ChuckE2009... been enjoying your MWM videos though. Tom Lipton also has a few videos.. :-D
Interesting video and good project. How much life do you get from the blades? Doug
Gary, nice build. You would need magic to collect all of the chips from that saw, but it looks like your design gets a good percentage. You asked last week about video format and now that you have posted a narrated video, I like this format as well as the non narrated sum it up at the end. Maybe a little bit of each??? One question, can you tell me the height of your fab block tables and your older weld bench? Just trying to get some ideas.
Thanks RJ, yea that saw slings some chips. Thanks for the feedback on the format. I really like just showing the work and a quick summary at the end, if i try to talk throughout it, its hard for me to not get carried away and start rambling. i edited a lot of it out, but still a lot in there lol. i will measure those tables in a little while and post back.
I like the work table. Is that a 3/4" steel top?
Excellent idea for the chip pan and the dust collector. :-)
What cup and tungsten are you using?
Thanks Cecil. I was using a 3/32 2" lanthanide tungsten with the Furick pyrex cup. I think it's a #9
Try adding a magnet in a zip lock bag to the tray and it will catch even more of those sharp shards before they reach the floor (provided they are just regular steel).
thats an excellent thought
take a magnet out of a old broken hard drive, very strong
What model DeWalt chop saw did you use? Was it a chop saw that uses an abrasive wheel or the model for a carbide steel cutoff blade
cool
Thanks Robert
The large combination square
Any particular reason you chose stainless for the collection(?) chute? Also are you happy with the SWAG portable bandsaw table? I'm trying to decide to make my own or buy one and since you obviously use yours was wondering what you think. Thanks
I chose stainless because I had that 2X4" stainless tube left over from another project, otherwise, i wouldn't have specifically chose that...
Less clean up is a big plus in my books.
If you like working with stainless, you need to swing by if you ever make it up to West Michigan. Our shop where I work is pretty impressive. The piece turned out nice. When does the laser table go on order? :)
I wish I was ordering a laser table! it will just be a plasma table... will be ordering soon, been in negotiation with the company on it.
u got sum KILLER tools gray....the right tool 4 the right job...always helps..plus u have skills 2 make it happen PEEEACE
thanks Thomy, appreciate it!
Nice band saw. Def slow the blade rotation for the stainless. For welding your radius cuts obviously you learned you needed the smaller wire. I would go with no wire but not just a boring fuse weld. You can easily make a fuse weld look great with ripples by simply pausing almost like you were using filler. This way you can keep your heat even lower but your travel speed is the same. Try it out.
Looks like a major upgrade I'll bet you can damn near walk around it in socks. Lol just kidding.
Lol, I do walk out there in socks from time to time, thanks JF
nice! like everyone else I'll do this to my evolution saw, it's so messy. one thing I noticed about your welding, is that your torch angle is quite extreme, and that might be causing the arc to wander. just my 2 cents 😀
At times i did have way too much angle, but at other times not much at all. Definitely need to watch that. Thanks for the observation!
Great idea, I have the evolution chopsaw and man it is messy. it has a port on the back for a vacuum but I think that would be a pain.
I was looking at those evolution saws after Jody's made a video on them. do you like it?
+jamesfreddys yes it's a nice saw I picked it over the dewalt because the clamping system looked better. To really make it rock I am going to build a saw station similar to this one. I REALLY want that bans saw that is the ticket right there
Thanks Jason, I really like the looks of the Evolution saw, i didn't know they existed when I bought this one.
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here is the rear vac port and tray on the Evo
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Looks good, seems like it catches most of the chips. As for the welding wire straightening try chucking the wire in a drill, clamp the other end, pull fairly tight and spin it up. Stainless is really sensitive to heat if you don't keep the travel speed up you will have problems. It also has a high coefficient of thermal expansion and poor thermal conductivity making it the distortion king.
Thanks Bill good tip on the wire straightening. There were times where I couldn't dab the rod because it was twisted in the wrong direction. Yea, I had this left over from another project, otherwise i would have never picked it, its a pain to work with.
I just noticed 19672701 mentioned more or less the same thing with the wire sorry about that I was on my phone and did not see all the comments.
hey mr gary love the idea i am constantly cleaning metal shavings lol without sounding stupid i see u have a carbide tooth type blade on ur chop saw, i have a 14 inch chop saw ive always used abrasive blades in. can i put the kind of blade in mine as u have in yours or it a different kind of saw? thanks sir
Hey Shaun, I didn't have good luck doing that. I tried putting a carbide blade on my old dealt abrasive saw and it worked for about 3 cuts and burned up the blade. This saw was designed to run the carbide blade. Look at the evolution carbide chop saw if your thinking about getting one
thank u sir im glad u told me, im sure them blades aint cheep lol love ur stuff btw happy 4th well 5th by now lol
Shaun Williford Milwaukee makes a diamond grit blade made for an abrasive saw like urs. called the steelhead but there about 140$ a piece. just ordered one hoping to make chop saw more like a cold saw
Great idea,what are you welding with? I use my safety wire pliers to straiten mig wire.just cut lengths ,one end in a vise one in the pliers a little spin and surprisingly straight when finished.My work throws away alot of.045 mig wire,I never have to buy any..
Thanks for the tip, I will give that a try. The local welding stores here don't seem to carry .045, only .030 and .035. Pretty cool you can get that for free from your work! I am welding with a Eastwood/Chinese 200 amp AC/DC inverter machine. Not bad for what it is....
I just got a AHP 200x ,seems to work well for what I do,Its Chinese also and seem to be similar machines.You have great tutorials ,I would like to do some too,just not camera savvy
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Doesn't the AHP have pulse? That's really the main feature I don't have that I wish I did. Thanks about the videos. You don't have to be camera savvy. Just use your phone. a lot of the camera angles in my videos are shot with my iPhone.
Yes it has pulse,and works well.
Dude do u sell them? I need one plz.
45º?
Where did u buy that square pls.
I got it from Jody @ weldingtipsandtricks here on youtube. If you look at this video, he has a link to his store in the description. ua-cam.com/video/WSnj8AASuFs/v-deo.html
I would like to have the plans if possibly pls
Which welding table, the fab block with the holes, or the one with the heavy plate? The fab block is just a kit you can order in any size you want, i have a video on it just a couple weeks ago on my youtube channel
No the tablet with the dewalt cut off saw
Where can I purchase a "L square" ?
Hi Virginia. You can get the lesquare from Jody at welding tips and tricks, and some other sites as well.
A raingutter from walmart is cheaper and faster. Looks like you just like to show off you tig skills :P
Its a longer video