Who Will Win? Toro vs. Ariens
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In this review video, Taryl puts this Toro 724 QXE Snow Master snow blower against this Ariens Crossover. We got about a foot of snow and it's real wet and heavy so we'll see how they both perform under some heavy loads. If either snow blower look like something you could benefit from be sure to check out Ariens and Toro's sites or visit your local dealer.
And as always, There's Your Dinner!!
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@@venus2012ful Both of them are junks. I wouldn't either.
But that is just my opinion based on your video.
Plastic skid shoes, plastic scraper bar,plastic transmission..... That's all you need to know right there.
That is very telling.
so cheap!
My plastic shovel would do just as good a job.
@JLD Enterprises Small Engine Repair
Yeah Don't buy it. I'm sure a MTD is cheaper and built better.
ya but that model has been around for several years and I haven't heard of any problems with it yet.
Well, there you go! Two models demonstrated on what not to buy.
Agree I have a steep driveway and need a good drive mechanism. No headlights? No throttle? Plastic is OK if the right material is used and designed right. Plastic is better than metal for some applications.
Bad enought to be cold snowblowing but to me forced to move your own machine to blow show yea NOPE
Exactly. These things make shoveling look easier!
I will take any old craftsman or John Deere with a Tecumseh engine any day over any new machine.
Man I thought my big husky sucked but it will chew through 2’ at full speed.
Those would be perfect for the snowfall in Florida.
I fixed up a 40 year old snow blower with a 8hp Tecumseh motor and a 30" scoop and it would run rings round that plastic junk.
I never have to stop, it just ploughs straight through. I paid $50 for it and spent $120 to get it up to scratch. It is built like a tank, all metal construction. Now I''m glad I put in the effort to do it!
My 1994 Craftsman snowblower is quite literally a tank because it has tracks and the metal is durable. Just like yours it is powered by an 8 HP Tecumseh, those are truly the best snow engines out there.
Anyone else watching this just because it’s Taryl, not because you’re in the market for a snow thrower?
Yep, I’m in s Fla, currently 81
No good for old timer. Too much pushing. Toys. Not for me!
Live in tampa fl. No snow EVER. Just finished watching the whole video
Lmao yeah. I work for Husqvarna haha
Yep !! Lol I'm sure glad we live in South Carolina.... No way.. No way I want all that snow to deal with
Toro doesn’t clog because all it does is stall out. And when it does run it still backs up.
Yeah, it needs to be 8hp, not 8 ft-lbs. of torque.
If you heav it into snow it sure will, you let the machine do the work no, I have 2 of them for commercial work there great
As soon as I saw TD start with the Toro I knew something was wrong. That machine needed the carb adjusted as TD said. RPM was way too low. Put the 824 QXE out there properly set up and it would have been no contest. And most people won't let ghe snow "age" that long. I would never buy that Ariens. That auger looks like a nightmare to service and that's the only propulsion there is! No thanks! Nice video for comparison in tough conditions.
Great review. But this is why I stick to my 30 plus year old 5 HP Craftsman. Back when they build them to last.
The entertaining part was these two just total random snow discharging all over the car and street. LOL
That Toro required more coaxing than a kid who refuses to eat his vegetables.
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Marshall Blythe The Toro should've been run in low gear for that heavy snow anyway. It wouldn't been as good of a show running it the right way though...lol.
@@NY411Info It has the Personal Pace system, no selectable gears or speeds.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists That means you don't push as hard on the handle is my guess. I don't own one.
@@NY411Info Yes, but is it actually a lower range ratio? Probably not, or not by much. The Personal Pace system on a lawn mower pretty much relies on how much belt slippage there is and/or how deep the belt rides in the transmission and crank pulley, therefore regulating the walking drive speed. I can't see how this effectively works on a snowblower to replicate the torque of a traditional friction disc drive type set to one of the lower speed settings.
@@BatBoy7426 Yup. That machine was not tuned correctly carb wise.
I wold not take ethr one if they gave them to me
I’ve got a big Ariens 11.5 horse. Those are too little.
Agreed. Under powered under peroforming cheaped up junk.
Agreed what pieces of junk. Toro is gonna wish they never made this video, at least Ariens made a few bucks on the sale.
I’d take both. Then immediately sell them or burn them. I liked the old John Deere 832 I had. Thing was beat but still started first pull and went through 2 feet of snow.
neither would I, not if I had that kind of snow. But I was still impressed with that Ariens model. It did better than I thought it would.
I wouldn't waste my money on ether one. Pure junk
simmer down there fruitcake
Ive had my Toro 724 QXE for 3 years. It does around 300 driveways a season, no problems at all. Only replaced the scraper bar once. Its great for 3-8 inches of lighter snow. Plus its light to get it in and out of the truck easy. 100% worth the money.
@@steamygrave Well you saw the demonstration. Wouldn't even stay running. So there's your dinner
@@bernieglass8098 Because it was not running correctly. The carb needed adjustment.
Thumbs up anybody who remembers Ariens and Toro in the 70's into the eighties and gets really sad when they see this.
Amen, the Tecumseh Sno-King engine was it. Bronze helicle gearboxes, Zirk fittings, heavy gauge steel. Made to do some work.
Lighter for the chinese cargo ship. More units per voyage.
@@starcarrier1874 thank you starcarrier for the flash back an yes i remember the sno-king engine they were bomb prof and the snow blowers would eat through everything no matter what it was
Heck my 90's MTD from Walmart is red faced after watching those two flail about in the snow.
The new Ariens are actually a BEAST of a machine. The model they are using? Not so much, have to step up to the larger Ariens that are self propelled with a dual auger belt design and those things will chew through almost any snow you put in front of them. They're actually really impressive machines and top anything else I've come across for new equipment thus far. Source: I own and operate my own small engine repair shop so I have tested many different types of snowblowers both new and old.
I’ve got an Ariens 824 with a Tecumseh Snow King and I love it. I wouldn’t even consider a snow thrower without a wheel drive and 2 stages, too much work!
Looked like the Ariens won that contest to me.
He won’t ever say that since Toro sponsored this video lol
WOW how could you say that? Ariens lost the race if there ever was one. And there's your Dinner.
Agreed
What were you watching? BOTH EQUALLY SUCKED!
@@johnfromnj885 did you not see the path the ariens was doing compared to the Toro or are you just blind as a bat?
Take care of your old machines you sure don’t want to end up with either one of these 😂
In my opinion the Ariens out performed the Toro. Ide like to see another match up in 4 to 6 inches of snow instead of a foot plus. For $150 more, i expected to see better performance from the Toro..
It also had the bigger engine. The Toro's fallback I think is that it wasn't a stage. Though I would not buy either of these. Smells of Chinsy.
2 stage vs. 1 stage. 2 stage will win every time in deep heavy snow like this!
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Yes this is true. The Toro is a powered snow shoval...lol.
@@NY411Info The Toro Power Shovel is a powered snow shovel :D
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Right!
Taryl, I have the Ariens: lift the handle by walking into it, rather than simply pushing the machine. . That makes the 'auger propelled' part work. Thanks.
Hope you didn't pay a lot for it. I wasn't impressed about a Blower I have to push.
So what you really mean to say is "HEY TARYL! RTFM!"
And as soon as those rubber parts on the auger wear out no more self propelled.
I have both 2 stage and single , and that heavy wet stuff calls for the 10 hp 2 stage. Great work out guys.
Agree!! I have a single stage for the small snows, and an 8HP for deeper snows.
HOWEVER after the 30" snow last week the 8HP had a rough going.
With rubber auger paddle extensions ?!? that is the way to go thinking of adding those to my .craftsman 32 inch 10 hp that will throw it pretty far.
i agree .these chumps on here judging either machine in that type a snow don't know machinary. tayrel had the snow he had to film with so not his fualt.
I was glad that you didn't show favoritism for the one that was given for free.
Good one!
Moral of the video, don't buy a snowblower made in the last 25 years. They are all pretty sorry. There's your dinner!
I have four Ariens and one Toro, the Toro never gets used. Ariens = The King of Snow!!!
Unbelievable !!! these very, very low-end snowblowers should be called snowjunk. Thank you both for protecting us from these purchases
I've seen both those models demoed several times. That's the first time I've seen them have that much trouble.
They blow! And not the good way
I just bought the Toro and these guys do not know how to operated a self propel machine.. Push forward and pulling back only if ur doing the front of a driveway that's 2ft or higher from the plow filling in ur drive way.. The self propel easily eats a 1 1/2 foot of snow with ease. You just guide it and move a little slower if it's deep. They do not know what they are doing lol.
I just bought the Toro and these guys do not know how to operated a self propel machine.. Push forward and pulling back only if ur doing the front of a driveway that's 2ft or higher from the plow filling in ur drive way.. The self propel easily eats a 1 1/2 foot of snow with ease. You just guide it and move a little slower if it's deep. They do not know what they are doing lol.
I just bought the Toro and these guys do not know how to operated a self propel machine.. Push forward and pulling back only if ur doing the front of a driveway that's 2ft or higher from the plow filling in ur drive way.. The self propel easily eats a 1 1/2 foot of snow with ease. You just guide it and move a little slower if it's deep. They do not know what they are doing lol.
The Ariens comes with a shovel because it is a 2 stage blower. They use shear pins to protect the little gearbox that connects the two stages in case you pick up a rock and jam one of the stages.
Or your news paper. Guilty.
Thanks Daryl, this is very enlightening....and a little sad! Neither machine will be on my list. Thanks for doing this!
Next week we compare a free ford Mustang to a Kia we had to pay for
Spot on
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou that we had to say there was just about the same because we want free Toro mowers in future
Wow, I’ve never seen a self propelled single stage and a manual push duel stage.
After watching this I promptly invested in the NK16 (16 y.o. neighborhood kid), to hand shovel my driveway...
I'm just dying to see what's in that new Toro transmission. Hey I'll give it the benefit of the doubt, but I still want to see what's inside of it. Tear it down, turn it down, tear it down !!!
I was waiting for him to do it in the review. Yes Yes Yes
then give it back
I'd like to see how reliable it will be also but the plastic doesn't bother me. It looks fairly robust compared to the gearbox on some pretty expensive 2 stage machines I've seen.
My advice is to buy a snowblower that will do every possible storm you might get. Having one that will fail when you need it most the worst decision you can make.
From here in MN, I'd say those both would be perfect Florida snow blowers.
My experiance with snowblowers is;
they struggle with the wet- heavy snow and tend to clog. Once I make one clear pass, I take 1/2 pass to make it easier on the machine.
I use a riding snowblower as I have a bad back. I know walk behind snowblowers take a lot of upper body strength. I used to use them. I used two different ones back in the day.
i have a feeling thats the last free item you get from toro, but its their own fault
If they're smart, they'll see a real unique opportunity here. That model is not one of their higher end models. That heavy snow will be a GREAT demo for their higher horsepower models.
@@mrbubetube they better offer taryl a free high end toro snowblower before the snow goes away, otherwise next year people will be looking at ariens
@@healthyamerican ya, this video should be a good lesson to Toro. They should have asked Taryl what kind of snow he gets and what snowblower he wants to test instead of just blindly sending him one. But I'm still impressed with that Toro model. It didn't clog, and I'd like to see how the 824 handles that same snow.
Sorry, but the ariens has a LCT brand engine. They are also used on modern husqvarna and poulan blowers made by husqvarna. Strangely, Both ariens and husqvarna(poulan) brand them as their own engines, but they are just more Chinese engines.
Also, the toro has a LONCIN engine, its not made by toro. If you don't believe me google it
Well everything mades in china and they run just as GOOD did you know volswagon iwns LAMBORGHINI WOW STOP BEING A KNOW IT ALL
@@seanmckay3392 i am simply trying to prevent people from watching false information.
Its not false information why does it matter anyways
I have a Ariens 28 deluxe that would run circles around both those machines, that said I had a 1970 simplicity 8 hp that would have shredded them all
Haha, I hear ya. Have a 1989 Simplicity 870.
And I could do a full tune up on my wife's 1980 Datsun 210 in 15 minutes and have it running like new. Those days are long gone.
I have the Toro 824qxe version of this snowblower and have no problems even at the end of the driveway. Heavy wet snow might slow you down a little but not as much as this shows.
older units worked much better than these new ones , i had a old viking single stage with a 5hp briggs that would move more snow than most 90's 2 stage units . fantastic vid . thanks
I have had the exact same toro for 4 years. The personal pace drive system takes some getting used to but I haven't had any problems with mine. Seems to do a good job for me. I have even plowed thru the snowplow bank at the end of the driveway. Just have to take smaller bites on deep snow.
I watched this just cause of Taryl. I’m not in the market for a snowblower. If I was gonna buy one I’d probably want the one that didn’t need to be restarted a few times even though it had more features. I don’t know how easy it is to set the rpm’s higher cause I don’t know a lot about snowblowers to begin with. It’s why I watch all these video.
Ive got a wife and a shovel for that here in the uk.🤣😎👍
She loves me
let me guess. Your wife's name is Hulga, she's 300 pounds and her arms are bigger around than my legs.
One thing nobody mentions much critiquing snow blowers is those plastic chutes. I got a Craftsman years ago. It is all metal except from the rotating ring to the deflector on the chute it's plastic. I wouldn't have bought it for that reason but figured they can make plastic and strength they want these days. Day one, right out of the shed, it threw a chunk of ice. That split the deflector as it left the chute. I melted holes with a hot nail and propane torch then stitched it with zip ties. I was able to use it. As I plowed the end of the drive there was a rock size of an egg in the snow bank the plow made. When it threw that, it split the chute itself. I fixed it the same way to finish the job. Sears sent me another chute. I used tin snips and made a ring out of heating duct metal riveting and using JB weld to reinforce the lower edge of the new chute with a ring of metal. I sanded it all down. Covered the whole thing in layers of fiberglass mat and epoxy. I had lots kicking around from fixing a boat. Then I painted the chute and deflector to protect the epoxy from UV. Sears said plastic is fine since it isn't designed to throw rocks. I live on a dirt road but the drive is paved. It won't break now. I like a discharge system that is all metal so it doesn't crack.
Nope Nope Nope !!! Taryl Please Keep your Snow up there we don't want any down in SC. Still watch just because it's Taryl !! Good one Guys Thanks
Right. I live in western Canada. These would be OK if you just had a side walk. I would need a snowblower with more muscle for the snow up here.
I like the idea of a narrow 20 inch snowblower. What we need is a narrow 20 inch wide, 24 inch tall super powerful one with the horse power and drive of a 30 incher for the soul purpose of making the initial cut through that heavy overnight snow we tend to wake up to. When they are wide it's like hitting a brick wall. A powerful narrow one like I mentioned would cut through like a knife.
It looks like both operators are accustomed to using power-driven 2-stage units. I'd bet a Honda HS621, which would be in the same league, would carve through that snow with FAR less human effort. The first pass would still be a slow process. After that, just adjust your overlap to bite off as much as the machine is comfortable with. Let the machine do nearly all the work!
I always wanted a snow blower, but those don't seem to be any better than a shovel.
You have to pay 1000 dollars Canadian to get a blower thats worth anything
That looks like heavy packed snow that must have been sitting for a while! A real workout! I don’t feel so bad about my small Toro 18” single stage. I am thinking that a snowblower of that size should be self propelled.
The Ariens Crossover is a modern revamp of the old 2+2 and 5+2 models from back in the day. The Snowmaster is a single stage design in a 2 stage frame and the Crossover is a 2 stage design in a single stage size housing because there are rubber paddles attached to the augers.
the machines in the 70s and 80s were the best
Yo yo from the UK 🇬🇧 a head to head video.. cool man.. This is a proper dinner serving
Widowmakers both of them! LOL
I'm glad I don't have to depend on those types of units. Thanks for sharing, Taryl
Just goes to show you that dual stage is not always better than single stage. What's more important is having a drive assist.. when you have to push something on your own you are basically doing a workout.. backing up plowing into it..
I'VE SEEN SO MANY VIDEOS OF THE TORO SNOWMASTER 724 AND 824 AND IT DOES JUST AS GOOD AS THE TORO POWERMAX 824 AND 826..
It's a hell of a lot lighter you don't need a reverse. So much easier to push around..
I've seen the snowmaster go through 21 in of snow down by the driveway on UA-cam with no problem..
Pretty amazing Toro is always so innovative trying to find new ways to save us money to do the same job..
Absolutely brilliant..
If you don't believe me go type in SNOWMASTER 824 IN A BLIZZARD. YOU WILL BE SHOCKED.
And Toro claims that it's 40% faster than the two stage version is pretty much true.
I don't know how reliable though self-paced thing but it works fantastic saves tons of time
I guess there's not much clogging with a single stage when you have a big opening and nothing in its way to go out the shoot.
Can't see myself buying either one of those toys.
Being retired, I wait until the storm is over so I only have to clear it once! Watching this demonstration, makes me glad I have a Simplicity!! Ny previous Snow blower was an Ariens 8 hp that I bought over 30 yrs ago. It was called a power handle. Snow blower in the winter, Mower in the summer and vacuum in the Fall!!!
Great vid! Both machines looked a little overmatched for those conditions. Probably a fairly rare occasion for Hoosier land.
ya, I agree. I've seen both those models running in 18+ inches of snow several times, and this is the first time I've seen either of them having trouble. Some real unique heavy snow there, and yet neither one of them clogged, so that's saying a lot.
up here in the northern indiana, when we do get snow, we get that wet, heavy, lake effect snow in bands that really does suck. the further northwest you live, the worse it is for you.
@@handyhippie6548 Ah yeah, I had forgotten about Lake Michigan. We get the same lake effect here in Southern Ontario from Lake Huron. I guess I always forget how far north parts of Indiana are.
@@Mike-ig2zq i live about 30 miles south of the michigan border. the weather in southern indiana is nothing like it is here. today it is 20 degrees f, and i have 12" of snow in my yard, with more coming in the forecast. but i suppose that's a nice day for you up there in the great white north.
@@handyhippie6548 Actually those conditions are almost identical to here. Although we may have less snow cover than that. We have been pretty lucky the last couple years with the lake effect pushing just a few miles east of us.
The best part of this is the surprise guest appearance by Slippers! That Ariens reminds me of the wheeled trimmer I had. I don't like those wheels, and the engine on mine had to go back to the shop to make it run right. Personally for snow I would go with inflatable tires.
Honda, baby. Buy once, cry once. We love you, Taryl. Gotta be something for u to fix!
I like that, never heard it.
My HS-50 went through snow like a hot knife thru butter.
Never sieze on axles will help. The freezing cold and plastic transmission will require wheel removal. We just love your videos.
In wet heavy snow I pick the lowest gear and drive right thru it,,no matter how wet. Might have to stop a second to let the blower catch up ,,if allot of snow. But I have never used a snowblower like you guys were. I dont understand what the back and forth chit was??? Dont they have a drive????
I repair these things ,,so I have used almost every snowblower ever made. Never see anyone use a snowblower like you two??? lol
The Toro doesn't seem to have a low speed for deep snow so it slams into it and stalls, and the Ariens drive means if it doesn't have solid ground to pull against then it doesn't pull so you have to slam it into the snow. Just bad design on both.
41 year old Ariens 504 5 HP Two Stage you could not trade me for either of those blowers.
Snow that deep, you can't be taking big bites. Take 2/3 bite or even 1/2 to get better performance and a cleaner path. Yes it might take lil longer but it will do a better job when the motor isn't bogged down with wet snow.
Ty as the others commented it’s a video on what not to buy. You saved me a non expensive headache
I bet that Toro Engine is made by the same company that makes the predator engine. Looks pretty similar.
I'm enjoying my Ariens 824 without even using it watching you guys work these small machines.
The toro stalls out , too wide for the engine power
Also it's only a single stage thrower.
bucket width has nothing to do with the engine stalling. its due to the paddles. Shove a single stage blower into a small bank of snow and it will die. Slap a 212cc engine on a 2 stage and it will just eat the snow continually without stalling.
@@norge696 bucket width = more snow. Precisely what people look for because they want to move more snow, people understand less about the rest... Why buy a 96 inch model if the 12-inch model will be better?
The toro was a 24 inch scoop vs ariens 2 stage plus 20 inch scoop it’s not taking in as much snow ⛄️but I am impressed those smaller snowblower actually did good for that amount of heavy wet snow.
Aren’t all these self-branded engines Honda clones from China?
no they make there own i wouldn't trust a honda clone only branded engines but not briggs an Stratton there junk now then what they were making back in 2013
Yep
They are all (mostly) what are called LCT engines with different names slapped on em
@@johncarlberg4481 that just means there junk
@@joshuaryanferguson3702 yup
The Toro is known to need a light touch when just getting moving. Once the operator gets the hang of it, it works very well. That's why Taryl was doing 'wheelies' for awhile there.
dislike the plastic transmission. can tell you from experience they DO NOT hold up!!!
Back in 1979 we got a big new Ariens with 12HP and chains on the tires. Only problem is the shear pins would break on the auger in heavy snow.
That’s not toros engine it’s a Chinese loncin engine...
Ariens is a "Chonda" as well. My 28 SHO has one as well, runs great.
@@Hubjeep I don’t want either.
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou Most all are china made engines these days (sigh) we are being bought out on snowblower at a time
The Ariens is probably an LCT made in China. I think the only non China manufactured snowblower engines these days are some Hondas. And oh boy do you pay a premium for em.
@@AverageJoeHotRodShow Honda engines are chinese too. 3 years ago I did an engine swap in an Argo 8x8 I replaced the single cylinder Tecumesh with a Honda GX630 v-twin and made in china casted right on the block.
You bought a bare bones Ariens.
Both engines are Chonda.
Texas, we just wait till 10:00 am and it's gone
I'm sticking with my tread propelled Honda. It beats these two any day.
till it breaks
but both of these are the cheap ones your honda is not my 11.5 hp ariens kicks ass an it usa made so is the engine wont buy nothing with china junk engines
Terrell says some funny stuff
“ we better finish this driveway I hope we don’t have heart attacks”
Good video taryl, I would have to go with the Ariens, cheaper as well as does a better job to me.
Neither of these machines would survive Canada. We have sidewalk clearing blowers, and driveway clearing blowers. These are sidewalk cleaners, and even then, I think I'd be tossing them in the scrap recycling pile. My 14HP Husqvarna with floating chute is all I need to get the job done. And BTW, it comes with a shovel which I've never needed in 6 years.
I like sitting on my John Deere tractor it’s 40 hp and it has a 59 inch blower on it and I love it
Go John Deere!!! You have my vote, Dean.
Without being a dick what that combo cost cuz that sounds great I have an S10 with a seven and a half foot plow but a blower would be better where I am on a four-wheel drive tractor
@@OSchoices mine was $5.5k 22 hp 44 inch so his was alot more. Like 8k minimum
I have a 40 YO Toro 724. The self propelled and extra 2 hp really makes it perfect for the snow you are clearing. Those both seem like it would be a killer for a 60+ old man. My son now has it and the ignition died last winter...so he is upgrading it to electronic ignition. If we were to get a new one we would buy the 828 Toro as I would love the quick stick. We moved to sunny FL, no snow here!
I'll take the Ariens for simplicity, longevity, reliability, and cost of service.
I have a 56 year old Ariens, 8HP and not a single safety feature. Once engaged it will not stop till it runs into something.
It is a beast in both weight as well as what it will throw. Chains on pneumatic tires, 4 forward & 1 reverse. A diff setting on one of the wheels (I leave it locked). Impossibly heavy. Purchased by my Grandfather, then my Dad, and now to me. I plan to give it to my Grandson in about a dozen years.
The Ariens was my pick. The Toro has too much gimmick junk on it and too much plastic
You can keep those single stage units for your sidewalks and patios for a few 3" to 6" of snow. I'll keep my two stage units that are self propelled and really move deep heavy snow.
Wow! Those machines are junk.
Powersmart, aka the Chonda, aka the Harbor Freight Predator engines. It's all the same, junk.
I'd be halfway tempted to replace the engine with a GX Commercial Engine.
At that point I'd probably use the snowblower I have instead or buy something with a halfway decent engine.
I have an early Powersmart from 2010. A Yard Machines from Walmart when I didn't know what I was buying. The metal is all good on it. But all the plastic parts are failing due to age, dry rot and time. I'm waiting for the plastic choke control to fail. Just a question of when as it is already showing stress fractures.
Nice practical comparison, under the worst of conditions! Tough decision between the two. The Toro does have some really nice features, minus the plastic trans, but it's longevity concerns me. I have to say though, my Toro CCR 3650 with a plastic carb lasted 16 years before I swapped it out. Overall, Ariens just seems more durable and has a smaller footprint for a crowded garage.
I've owned one constant throttle engine in the past........ never again!!!!!!!!!
I got an old Toro 5 hp 2 stage that I did the impeller upgrade with a cut up old Harley Tire.
I used Stainless Steel Bolts, Nuts and Lockwashers on the three blades, and I will say it is one of the best blowers I have ever used. With the upgrade it doesn't clog even in slush on shoulder of well traveled highway at end of my drive.
It's getting old though, so little by little It's getting a bit on the rough side.
I'm surprised the toro stalls out so much I have a 721 and it never stalled out in snow like that..
IMHO that carb was maladjusted. It was hunting from the start.
@@ralphfraumeni6190 .........If not 100% electric, the old fashioned carbs need routine maintenance, have not seen EFI in a snowblower[yet], but these would run off of a magneto, like ignition and lights.
I would say a good review in the garage with what each one offers!! I'm less impressed on how you operated the Toro you don't need to push it forward then pull back and keep doing that... That's wrong unless it's too deep of snow I just bought one if u push alittle but give it more juice with the self propel it will do the work for you. It's a great machine I bought mine used for 450$ new retail for 1,100$ off facebook marketplace guy had it for 2yrs and when I got it home it worked amazing. The days of shoveling are over. Oh the easy shoot adjustment is game changer!
I see junior was not out helping you guys.. bet he was at home with his feet up.. the lazy so and so lol
Your comment makes me wonder. "Who was behind the camera?"
@@chilliewilly41 Rodney lol
@@themowerman bwahhaha
@@pegtooth2006 lol
I went Ariens. 30" 6f 1r speed, two stage, zero turn, one crank Shute turn- right in front of dash, with chute tilt up down lever on the dash. Electric start 110v, 20hp I think. It's been in the garage for two years unused brand new. Never started. Still waiting for big snow. Detroit downriver. I'll sell it or trade for newer one year old or less, zero turn mid size Toro, John deer or Ariens riding mower. That's what I really needed. Jpol.
They both may do a less tiring job in under 3" of snow.
When the snow here in CT is like that. I do 1/2 buckets instead of full buckets. May take you longer but you’re not fighting the machine and will have a cleaner path.
When you crossed by each other's path, looked like they were fencing with snow.
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i run 3 824 toros and 3 821 commercial blowers. 824 is by far the best machine in my experience for our application
not getting that toro, not with that trans...
Ariens for sure. The first path you 2 made you said the Ariens got closer to the ground and at the end of the video you said the Toro cleared better.
Ariens 1130DLE all day!
This is a great time to test these machines in NW Indiana, because we haven't had this much snow, and temps this low for so long a time in many years.
Great review guys. Both of these are sort of hybrids and both have good and bad qualities. With the Toro I'd just get the 821 single stage myself, but for someone who's elderly or in not that great of physical shape this one might do the trick. I think you'd be smart to snow blow twice rather than let it get this deep when using either of these machines. With the Ariens if you have any kind of incline I think you'd be working yourself to death.
Exacy. At 68 I'm going to trade in my 221 QZE for this 824 QZE. I need self propulsion and an easier to maintain auger.