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  • Most Iconic Cars | NFS Heat.
    Intro | - 0:00
    1. NFS ProStreet / Intro - Mazda RX-7 | - 0:13
    2. NFS Carbon / Jonathan Cross - Chevrolet Corvette Z06 | - 1:04
    3. NFS Underground 2 / Rachel Teller - Nissan 350Z | - 1:57
    4. NFS ProStreet / Ryo Watanabe - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X | - 2:49
    5. NFS Hot Pursuit III / Player - Lamborghini Diablo SV | - 3:41
    6. NFS Underground / Eddie - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec | - 4:33
    7. NFS Carbon / Kenji - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX | - 5:25
    8. NFS ProStreet / Aki Kimura - Mazda RX-7 | - 6:17
    9. NFS Most Wanted / Player - BMW M3 GTR | - 7:09
    10. NFS Undercover / Rose Largo - Porsche 911 GT2 RS | - 8:01
    11. NFS Carbon / Angie - Dodge Charger R/T | - 8:52
    12. NFS Underground 2 / Intro - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec | - 9:54
    13. NFS ProStreet / Ray Krieger - BMW M3 E92 | - 11:01
    14. NFS Carbon / Kenji - Mazda RX-7 | - 11:53
    15. NFS Underground / Melissa - Nissan 350Z | - 12:45
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  • @lnvasionProject
    @lnvasionProject 3 роки тому +304

    Most Underrated Car in NFS : UNDERGROUND 2 Blue Skyline GTR

    • @isakfazlic3204
      @isakfazlic3204 3 роки тому +19

      the tutorial gtr 🤟🏽

    • @samuelray8582
      @samuelray8582 3 роки тому +5

      Mainly due to the fact that some copies of the game back then had cut out all the cutscene and tutorial just to save some space.

    • @takauchinishika4701
      @takauchinishika4701 3 роки тому

      You mean NFSU1 Ending Car?

    • @yuhyuhyuh77
      @yuhyuhyuh77 3 роки тому

      @@takauchinishika4701 no

    • @yuhyuhyuh77
      @yuhyuhyuh77 3 роки тому +7

      @@takauchinishika4701 that was eddie's car

  • @gafete6575
    @gafete6575 3 роки тому +39

    Every person who talks about NFSU2 will think in first in the 350z of Rachell, but no so many people remembers the Skyline of the intro or even in the pontiac gto of Caleb

    • @justinbarton8808
      @justinbarton8808 Рік тому +3

      Rachel’s 350Z is legendary it’s on the cover that’s probably why.

  • @quadraforest
    @quadraforest 3 роки тому +62

    8:01 Finally some love for Undercover

    • @ThePixySoloWing
      @ThePixySoloWing 3 роки тому +3

      Unfortunately the Paint scheme on the side is wrong but still... Love for Undercover ❤️

    • @leot8412
      @leot8412 Рік тому +1

      It says in the FBI file that Rose Largo, at one time, helped the player besides Rachel Teller in the Bayview Underground Racing League during the storyline in Underground 2.

  • @theblacklisted5576
    @theblacklisted5576 3 роки тому +66

    9:54 I love it ;)

  • @tgb2007
    @tgb2007 3 роки тому +58

    They should have had the starting red Acura Integra from NFS Underground 1.
    The one you drive at the beggining of underground mode.

    • @hinu4206
      @hinu4206 3 роки тому +7

      That car never gets enough attention

    • @SparkTheHyperion
      @SparkTheHyperion 2 роки тому

      It's called the Vortex Integra. The Community has made replica wraps for the DC5 Integra/RSX. Really wish they'd bring back the DC2.

    • @thegreatnexus4207
      @thegreatnexus4207 Рік тому

      INDEED!!

  • @david991syoutubeaccount5
    @david991syoutubeaccount5 3 роки тому +36

    0:14 need for speed: prostreet (intro) mazda rx7
    1:05 cross’s corvette c6
    1:58 rachel’s 350z
    2:49 mitsubishi lancer
    3:41 need for speed: hot pursuit 3 lamborghini diablo sv
    4:34 eddie’s skyline
    5:26 kenji’s mitsubishi lancer evo 2006
    6:19 aki kimura’s mazda rx7
    7:11 bmw m4 gtr
    8:03 rose largo’s porsche 911 gt2 rs
    8:55 angie’s dodge charger R/T
    9:56 Need for speed: underground 2 (intro) nissan skyline GT-R V-SPEC
    11:03 ray krieger’s bmw m3 e98
    11:56 kenji’s mazda rx7
    12:47 melissa’s nissan 350z

    • @Crimson220_
      @Crimson220_ Рік тому +1

      Since when it was "m4"?

    • @Pranav.xd4
      @Pranav.xd4 Рік тому +1

      BMW M4 GTR ???? It's BMW M3 GTR from Legendary NFS Most Wanted 2005 bro 🗿🗿

    • @Pranav.xd4
      @Pranav.xd4 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Crimson220_He Played NFS No Limits Instead Of NFS Most Wanted 2005 💀

    • @Crimson220_
      @Crimson220_ Рік тому +1

      @@Pranav.xd4 lmao💀

  • @vladimirkrysenko
    @vladimirkrysenko 3 роки тому +62

    Player's Skyline & BMW M3 GTR, Rachel's & Melissa's Nissan 350Z, Lamborghini diablo SV, Lamborghini murcielago, Eddie's Skyline, Darius's Audi LeMans.
    My lovely iconic cars

    • @michazmuda1477
      @michazmuda1477 3 роки тому +1

      Darius Audi had very nice design.

    • @kianghaf1643
      @kianghaf1643 3 роки тому

      @Taré man i love reachels 350z i want to build it in real life🤩🤩🤩🤩

    • @caesar888_
      @caesar888_ 3 роки тому

      Ура, я нашёл русского человека

    • @oscarbravo8585
      @oscarbravo8585 3 роки тому

      This guy gets it

  •  3 роки тому +26

    Really wish the mantis kits came programed into the game already. That’s a missed opportunity on the Devs

  • @caraandmalik2108
    @caraandmalik2108 3 роки тому +41

    9:57 Woah she is such a fine ride to get on.

  • @racermigs1
    @racermigs1 3 роки тому +21

    I wonder if anyone has ever tried to recreate Samantha's car from Underground 1, or the other cars of Eddie's crew.

    • @rockzs74r
      @rockzs74r 3 роки тому +4

      The car doesn't made into another NFS game that much. So it's kinda hard. Most of the NFS games include the Hatchback rather than the Sedan

  • @ThePixySoloWing
    @ThePixySoloWing 3 роки тому +14

    I remember Recreating that Blue Skyline on U2 when I finished the game. Loved that car for some reason

    • @kholbekkholmuminov9438
      @kholbekkholmuminov9438 3 роки тому +5

      I’m glad that I’m not the only one who remembers this car, and I grew up with this game and got me into cars

  • @isdrevenge8764
    @isdrevenge8764 3 роки тому +6

    Oohhhh after so long, Eddie finally got his body kit back

  • @enderbotcyborg
    @enderbotcyborg 3 роки тому +12

    The NFS Prostreet Intro RX7 is my favourite :D

  • @anstarek7959
    @anstarek7959 3 роки тому +78

    7:09
    The Most Iconic Car Ever
    NOSTALGIA*

    • @SpaceFanaticS24B7
      @SpaceFanaticS24B7 3 роки тому +1

      This... hyy This is amazing car❤❤❤❤❤

    • @IHiraksI
      @IHiraksI 3 роки тому +2

      Probably the most famous car from need for speed franchise

    • @iorba1441
      @iorba1441 3 роки тому +1

      Lol it's ugly

    • @SpaceFanaticS24B7
      @SpaceFanaticS24B7 3 роки тому

      @@iorba1441 everyone has their tastes😁

    • @lkpcarvalho
      @lkpcarvalho 3 роки тому

      Couldn't agree more

  • @aremafcxboboiboydaun6977
    @aremafcxboboiboydaun6977 3 роки тому +11

    Matus Creation Is Back!! 👏👏

  • @az3253
    @az3253 3 роки тому +2

    You are back!!!!!! :)

  • @heheboi8913
    @heheboi8913 3 роки тому +2

    1:08 cross iconic words: EVERYONE!!!

  • @Ruftinator
    @Ruftinator 3 роки тому +8

    These all made me wanna go through UG to ProStreet and recreate every noteworthy car I can see in Heat. Only the cars that are actually in Heat though. I’d make exceptions for cars that aren’t in the game but have a newer model tho, I think I represented Wolf’s DB9 with the DB11 in Payback to name an example.

    • @Just_andy588
      @Just_andy588 3 роки тому

      What about the guy with the Porsche Cayman in MW?

  • @theodorvalentinghita1779
    @theodorvalentinghita1779 3 роки тому +9

    They finally introduced that mantis bodykit for the skyline

  • @user-ch5oz4qh7d
    @user-ch5oz4qh7d 3 роки тому +6

    Long time no see mate :)

  • @cxlciummmiv
    @cxlciummmiv 2 роки тому +5

    melissa's eclipse never gets enough attention.

    • @gavindietz5520
      @gavindietz5520 9 місяців тому

      in heat, someone made the Vinyl for the NSX, its in the community liveries

  • @TigerChamp99
    @TigerChamp99 3 роки тому +4

    Welcome back!

  • @incognitoprod59
    @incognitoprod59 3 роки тому

    Nice vid bud, but that Lancer Evo X needs only gear adjustment so he can just sprint into 200. That is why he is iconic imo. His launch control.. Damn that was freaking fast when I would not adjust my car...

  • @crashnburn3635
    @crashnburn3635 3 роки тому +19

    Where in hell did you get those widebodykits!
    1:58
    4:35
    8:05
    9:56

    • @JDMMaster26
      @JDMMaster26 3 роки тому +4

      1:58 you can get it after completing last drift mission (customized already without possibility to change anything)
      4:35 you can get it after completing last
      race mission (customized already without possibility to change anything)
      8:05 it's stock Porsche gt2 rs
      9:56 probably mods or something

  • @chocolatesensei5648
    @chocolatesensei5648 3 роки тому +16

    These are all cars that shoulda been brought back as support for the game with the original body kits and sounds

    • @asuitabledriver8025
      @asuitabledriver8025 3 роки тому +1

      @Ryan Cooper if they didn't care payback and heat wouldn't be as good and the files of the sounds that were in are probably gone at this point.

    • @asuitabledriver8025
      @asuitabledriver8025 3 роки тому

      nah

    • @chocolatesensei5648
      @chocolatesensei5648 3 роки тому

      @@asuitabledriver8025 yah

    • @asuitabledriver8025
      @asuitabledriver8025 3 роки тому

      Nah ghost did good just stop thinking mw05 is the best

    • @chocolatesensei5648
      @chocolatesensei5648 3 роки тому

      @@asuitabledriver8025 who said anything about mw 05. I also never said they didn't do good i said these cars shoulda came back. Stop thinking 2015 was the best they could do

  • @DavidLucian
    @DavidLucian 2 роки тому +1

    Darius' Supra its also one of the most Iconic NFS cars in my opinion ☯️👌

  • @Anonymous-nv8ow
    @Anonymous-nv8ow 3 роки тому +1

    Nice job.

  • @odinlavaloon8767
    @odinlavaloon8767 3 роки тому +6

    5:28
    7:09.
    👑NOSTALGIA👑

  • @lenayar5037
    @lenayar5037 2 роки тому

    That’s a very good video, but I have one question. How did you’ve got the mantis bodykit to Nissan Skyline GTR R34 from Need for Speed: Underground 2? It is mod?

  • @rajalkshmimurali4604
    @rajalkshmimurali4604 2 роки тому +3

    I think Earl's evo and razor mustang should deserve the spot

  • @kolyostankov3176
    @kolyostankov3176 3 роки тому +2

    Little side note before evo 9 kenji was driving rx-7 after joining Darius he switch to the evo 9

  • @ifroggie8257
    @ifroggie8257 3 роки тому +5

    I wish they added the underground unique wide bodies in nfs heat

  • @digirally97
    @digirally97 3 роки тому +1

    Nice

  • @cazaguiros
    @cazaguiros 3 роки тому +5

    Kenji's Mazda RX7 don't have the eyes in the rear.

  • @gibon1431
    @gibon1431 3 роки тому

    Nostalgia ❤️😋
    Btw how is your game so smooth in recording? I have a powerful PC but cannot record or have that smoothness.

  • @ericp2250
    @ericp2250 3 роки тому

    Is the blue skyline a mod with that bodykit? Always thought it was a shame they never added that body kit to the customization. I’m so nostalgic over it.

  • @iVenture01
    @iVenture01 3 роки тому

    I was just thinking of the players skyline remake but in IRL, crazy can UA-cam read my mind 😳

  • @muhammadalfan7898
    @muhammadalfan7898 3 роки тому +2

    I like NFS Heat with 100.000.000%
    Cause with the nostalgic cars and awesome race and car customization....👍👍👍👍

  • @jsk1493
    @jsk1493 3 роки тому +7

    Heya matus amigo how ya doing!

  • @justinbarton8808
    @justinbarton8808 Рік тому +1

    My top
    10 Legendary NFS cars:
    1. Acura Integra Type R Vortex (NFSU)
    2. Players BMW (NFSMW/Carbon)
    3. Eddie’s Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (NFSU)
    4. Kenji’s RX-7
    5. Cross’ Corvette (NFSMW/Carbon)
    6. Nikkie’s Ford GT (Carbon)
    7. Rachel’s 350z (NFSU2)
    8. NFSU’s cinematic Yellow Toyota Supra
    9. Melissa’s Eclipse
    10. Fire truck/garbage truck unlocks in carbon 😆

  • @javirs394
    @javirs394 3 роки тому

    Absolutely brilliant your job bro! support from spain !👏👏👏🚗💨

  • @DRIIVE34
    @DRIIVE34 3 роки тому +1

    Yo how'd you change the paint job on the Skyline with the Underground body kit?

  • @kaspersjberg8104
    @kaspersjberg8104 3 роки тому +2

    I was wondering, did you use a 2nd LE version of the Skyline to make the Underground 2's intro version?

    • @justanotherhuntermain
      @justanotherhuntermain 3 роки тому

      I think it's a mod cuz the LE can't be modified (not even wraps or cosmetics) and the standard Gt-R doesn't have that bodykit

    • @kaspersjberg8104
      @kaspersjberg8104 3 роки тому

      @@justanotherhuntermain I see, I'll check it out myself the next time I enter the game.

    • @MasterOfTruck
      @MasterOfTruck 3 роки тому

      @@kaspersjberg8104 he used cheat engine to put the bodykit on a normal skyline.

  • @dylanshultz3560
    @dylanshultz3560 3 роки тому +1

    Funnily enough, the m3 gtr is still one of if not the most recognizable cars in any racing game ever made

  • @Hirosatoshi25
    @Hirosatoshi25 3 роки тому

    Nice Cars

  • @hereisapictureofabroom
    @hereisapictureofabroom 2 роки тому +1

    9:54 I'll always prefer this intro Skyline GT-R over Rachel's 350Z

  • @mac_19
    @mac_19 3 роки тому +2

    Title should have been: Recreating Legends

  • @nickeybosco4516
    @nickeybosco4516 3 роки тому +4

    Where s the integra from u1

  • @pietersitumorang9414
    @pietersitumorang9414 3 роки тому +2

    I love the blue nissan skyline GTR r34 from need for speed underground 2

  • @NFSPROSTREET95
    @NFSPROSTREET95 3 роки тому +2

    very nice. love the m3gtr but the engine sound is so weird

  • @arlynanderson4801
    @arlynanderson4801 3 роки тому +10

    I swear... When I hear Eddie's voice say "here's some cash and take a cab." I want to punch him or wreck him, such a disappointing villain.
    Overall, all these iconic cars are nicely done and most are closely matched up with the real deals. If only they got those car sounds correctly, but oh well...
    Well done, great work.

    • @blakecooper669
      @blakecooper669 3 роки тому

      Project Unite fixes those dull sounds. Heck, even the sound to the m3 gtr is just like most wanted 05.

  • @HDHero234HD
    @HDHero234HD 3 роки тому

    in part of NFS Shift PSP, your cars are:
    Koenigsegg CCX(Ryo Watanabe)
    Corvette Z06(Wade Johnson)

  • @gavindietz5520
    @gavindietz5520 9 місяців тому

    How'd you get the body kit for the UG2 skyline?

  • @radoslavsintaj5420
    @radoslavsintaj5420 2 роки тому +1

    Eddie's Skyline is the best car of all Need for Speed 💪💪

  • @Lipe.Vieira
    @Lipe.Vieira 3 роки тому

    Only I noticed that the sound of the cars is very calm? Like, about 280 km with a sound of 120, and as if they were cars with parts of stock, shouldn't they be more aggressive? Since they are tuned, I just think

  • @JDMMaster26
    @JDMMaster26 3 роки тому +9

    9:56 How did you get that and is it possible to get it on PS4?

    • @MatusCreationVideos
      @MatusCreationVideos  3 роки тому +10

      This bodykit can only be obtained on the PC version with the help of the program Cheat Engine.

    • @JDMMaster26
      @JDMMaster26 3 роки тому +4

      @@MatusCreationVideos ok, thanks for reply

  • @ToniToni-ud4vo
    @ToniToni-ud4vo 3 роки тому

    OMG THE THUMBNAIL

  • @sakshamsharma5429
    @sakshamsharma5429 3 роки тому

    How about a part 2 with some other cars like Razor's Mustang, Nikki's Ford GT, Samantha's Civic, Earl's Evo, or one of Neville's or Sal's cars ?

    • @c3gfboy7
      @c3gfboy7 3 роки тому

      Razors mustang is a 2005 Ford Mustang that is not in the game: nikki’s Ford GT is the first gen that’s also not in the game. Samanthas civic is impossible cause there is no coupe civics just the hatchback EK9. Out of all of them that’s possible it’s earl’s evo

  • @mking05
    @mking05 2 роки тому

    I love that whistle of the BMW M3 GTR

  • @farhanyasir9576
    @farhanyasir9576 3 роки тому

    Why you didn't put Kamekaze's car from NFS MW?

  • @tqmmyyy
    @tqmmyyy 2 роки тому

    7:11 I literally just said that on my mind before Cross…

  • @PerfectlyFreedom
    @PerfectlyFreedom 3 роки тому

    The night graphics in this series kinda reminds me of NFSU2. If only they got some fine playlists..

  • @dartlola3149
    @dartlola3149 2 місяці тому

    everyone forgot about the yellow supra Ronnie from NFS MW 2005

  • @KPERPSTUD
    @KPERPSTUD Рік тому +1

    Love that rx7 you did amazing on that

  • @_-_MAREUCHI_-_
    @_-_MAREUCHI_-_ 3 роки тому

    Where d u get the player' voice?

  • @albertusaswin2012
    @albertusaswin2012 3 роки тому

    In-game NOS nowadays are like flamethrower.

  • @blackshark9749
    @blackshark9749 3 роки тому +3

    Most cars come from prostreet nfs fortunately there is the BMW E46 GTR

  • @mr.orange7004
    @mr.orange7004 3 роки тому

    0:02 what a play music by intro video?!

  • @depressedsquidward7539
    @depressedsquidward7539 2 роки тому +1

    7:09 My dream car 🤍💙

  • @Namiz00
    @Namiz00 3 роки тому

    i just wish autosculpt was back with the old bodykits, yeah theyre ugly sometimes, but so many iconic NFS cars uses it

  • @FL8ME_
    @FL8ME_ 3 роки тому

    In nfs 2015 I seen the green RSR as a iconic car

  • @ahmadfaalih324
    @ahmadfaalih324 3 роки тому +1

    You must put DB9's wolf from carbon

  • @everrunic8375
    @everrunic8375 2 роки тому

    Are these mods? Dlc? Or are they part of the game vanilla version?

  • @reyvenpl3525
    @reyvenpl3525 3 роки тому +8

    and still the most iconic car is the M3 GTR

    • @Gideon13397
      @Gideon13397 3 роки тому +1

      For me, it's Eddie's Skyline.

  • @vasyangamer2232
    @vasyangamer2232 3 роки тому

    Need for Speed Undercover is best game)
    Upd: Largo's Porsche looks beautiful

  • @rafaelfreitasoliveira3167
    @rafaelfreitasoliveira3167 3 роки тому

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @luislebronaponte2737
    @luislebronaponte2737 3 роки тому

    The only thing that put me off were the rims on the U2 Skyline.

  • @jxeded2458
    @jxeded2458 3 роки тому

    I wish they had added the 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse

  • @david991syoutubeaccount5
    @david991syoutubeaccount5 3 роки тому +1

    I built a rx7 veilside in this game

  • @4storyboss
    @4storyboss 3 роки тому +2

    shelby gt500 is also an iconic nfs car

    • @Gideon13397
      @Gideon13397 3 роки тому

      You mean the Super Snake 500 GT one from The Run? I like that car too but I'm very fond of The Run.

  • @kianghaf1643
    @kianghaf1643 3 роки тому +1

    Just reachels 350z boys and the intro under ground 2 gtr v spec

  • @pepezafrog7732
    @pepezafrog7732 3 роки тому +1

    Eddie's skyline should've had a wider mantis bodykit and a single exhaust

  • @joey95661
    @joey95661 3 роки тому

    9:58 How did you get that body kit on the skyline ?

  • @agochannel2665
    @agochannel2665 3 роки тому

    The skyline bodykit is a mod?

  • @ALKHAtheHedgehog
    @ALKHAtheHedgehog Рік тому

    Wait, where's Ryan Cooper green S13?

  • @jibitoaster6549
    @jibitoaster6549 3 роки тому

    Most Underrated car in NFS : Kuru's golf GTI

  • @manjiookami7962
    @manjiookami7962 3 роки тому

    7:09 Pepega homies hear this slightly different

  • @elcobra98
    @elcobra98 2 роки тому

    Tfw EA completely forgot about the Acura Integra in 90% of the franchise after NFSU.

  • @hexxychan1649
    @hexxychan1649 3 роки тому

    Intro song?

  • @420lukush2
    @420lukush2 2 роки тому

    They shouldve added underground 2 body kits I swear

  • @deadkey
    @deadkey 3 роки тому

    How did you manage to customize Eddies Nissan Skyline or Rachels 350Z?

    • @dylanshultz3560
      @dylanshultz3560 3 роки тому

      They are unlockable in the collectors edition or whatever it was called

    • @deadkey
      @deadkey 3 роки тому

      @@dylanshultz3560 hm, okay. Never seen them actually. I got the Deluxe Edition, but when I want to change parts on the Legends cars, the game wont let me

    • @dylanshultz3560
      @dylanshultz3560 3 роки тому +1

      Oh my bad, i misread your comment i thought you said how he got those 2 cars

    • @MatusCreationVideos
      @MatusCreationVideos  3 роки тому +1

      You need program Cheat Engine for unlock bodykits.

  • @LilDiabloRob
    @LilDiabloRob 3 роки тому

    The SV brought back memories of me and my best friend playing NFS as kids back then.

  • @emmanuelmena9176
    @emmanuelmena9176 3 роки тому

    no one mentioned this, but that Nitrous
    timestamp 0:33

  • @tdwp61
    @tdwp61 3 роки тому

    Need to see Neville car for carbon

  • @snehalgaming5308
    @snehalgaming5308 3 роки тому +1

    Nfs heat exhaust is flamethrower

  • @SpeedGamerman
    @SpeedGamerman 3 роки тому +1

    i'M THOUGHT THAT NiKKiS FORT GT, NiKKi MORRiS & RAZORS MUSTANG, CALEBS GTO, DARiUS'S AUDi & WOLFS ASTON MARTiN & LAMBORGHiNi WOULD BE THERE

    • @c3gfboy7
      @c3gfboy7 3 роки тому +1

      Those cars aren’t in the game that’s why. They are older generations that aren’t only the current gems.

  • @agustincustode7203
    @agustincustode7203 3 роки тому +1

    You forgot the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo from carbon ( the blue and white one)

    • @saber1827
      @saber1827 3 роки тому

      You mean Most Wanted?

    • @agustincustode7203
      @agustincustode7203 3 роки тому

      @@saber1827 no, from carbon, it was in the back of the cover page

  • @vice2344
    @vice2344 3 роки тому

    Nfs undercover: what about me?

  • @PRODOXONE
    @PRODOXONE 3 роки тому

    i just countet 4 Iconic cars

  • @skoogle065
    @skoogle065 3 роки тому

    they need to increase the rpm of the rx7 back to 8000.(anyone else agree?)